BuzzJack Music Forum _ Katy Perry _ Never Really Over • First Single
Posted by: Juan Carlos 15th May 2019, 01:33 PM
New single from Katy Perry called "Never Really Over", which was released on May 31.
Posted by: 365 15th May 2019, 03:13 PM
Apparently it's called Never Really Over.
Posted by: HausofTove 15th May 2019, 04:18 PM
Hopefully she proves that about her career with this era!
Posted by: Theonix 15th May 2019, 05:13 PM
Posted by: troublepink 17th May 2019, 07:37 AM
Been reading about this over social media... I'm glad she isn't taking such a long break from music as I expected! Looking forward to the new era
Posted by: Wall 17th May 2019, 07:58 AM
katy v miley
Posted by: Juan Carlos 19th May 2019, 02:54 AM
QUOTE(365 @ May 15 2019, 10:13 AM)
Apparently it's called Never Really Over.
That's true.
http://neverreallyover.online/
It seems that the above link is going to be the first view of Katy's official site, which will replace the current one soon. The countdown ends on May 31 at midnight CDT.
ETA: It looks like that website is fake. Sorry guys.
Posted by: Wall 19th May 2019, 04:02 AM
I know you can’t really tell the performance of a song based upon the hype but I just don’t see much hype and if this bombs it could legit turn into a worse era than witness in terms of sales and song peaks.
Posted by: slowdown73 19th May 2019, 12:37 PM
Interesting - hopefully better than witness material with the exception of chained to the rhythm.
Posted by: 365 19th May 2019, 12:50 PM
http://neverreallyover.online/
Countdown here! 11 days!
Posted by: JosephAvery 19th May 2019, 01:05 PM
Oooooh!!! Was not expecting new music so soon but I'm really excited *.*
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 24th May 2019, 02:03 PM
Is it actually a lead single from a new era?
That almost came as a bolt out of the blue if so, I didn't know she was actively working on new music.
Posted by: Juan Carlos 24th May 2019, 08:26 PM
Fan event in Los Angeles this Wednesday.
👀
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A place of traNquility and synchronicity, A place to unite thRough our broken hearts, Join us as we celebrate Our healing.
Posted by: Juan Carlos 26th May 2019, 02:57 PM
The information below was revealed by two different insiders.
• Written by Dagny Norvoll Sandvik, Dan Haywood, Gino Barletta, Harley Warner, Jason Gill, Katheryn Hudson and Michelle Buzz and it was produced by Zedd and Dreamlab. I assume Zedd (Anton Zaslavski) and Dreamlab (Daniel James and Leah Haywood) also have writing credits. The length is 3:44. • Described as a pop hit, which begins slowly and it explodes later (I guess when the chorus begins). It doesn't have any latin influences, it's not a midtempo and it's 100% enjoyable.
Posted by: Cqmerqn 27th May 2019, 09:28 AM
Ooh
Posted by: Wall 27th May 2019, 10:09 AM
There's legit next to no hype for this.
Posted by: JosephAvery 27th May 2019, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(Wall @ May 27 2019, 11:09 AM)
There's legit next to no hype for this.
Zara teas
Posted by: 365 27th May 2019, 02:23 PM
QUOTE(Wall @ May 27 2019, 11:09 AM)
There's legit next to no hype for this.
There's only rumours so far though
Posted by: Juan Carlos 27th May 2019, 04:32 PM
The Spanish insider said that Katy has a "Medellín" look (in reference of Madonna's single) in the music video, so it seems that it was already shot. Also, the song is more uptempo and commercial than her previous album Witness and it's very 2011 in a good sense. It has a very classical structure with the first stripped verse, but it goes high when the chorus begins.
As a side note, this source also said that it's marked as the WW track of the week, so I expect Capitol to push harder the song (most likely in Spotify key playlists?) because there's confidence in the song.
Posted by: Juan Carlos 28th May 2019, 04:33 AM
Few more details from Olly, who confirmed that the music video was already shot.
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The video is done, I believe the plan is to premiere the video on 30th too, there will be an alternative ending video and lyrics video premiered early next week.
Spotify vertical video will arrive late next week.
Posted by: 365 28th May 2019, 07:47 AM
Is this actually coming out on Friday? She hasn't even hinted at anything yet.
Posted by: Juan Carlos 28th May 2019, 01:59 PM
QUOTE(365 @ May 28 2019, 02:47 AM)
Is this actually coming out on Friday? She hasn't even hinted at anything yet.
I expect an announcement today or tomorrow at the very least because of the fan event, which will be later that day. Another possibility is that she will do that during the fan event, but I don't think that's a good idea, as well as a surprise release.
Posted by: Juan Carlos 28th May 2019, 03:10 PM
Confirmed by Katy.
Posted by: troublepink 28th May 2019, 03:32 PM
Fantastic news
Posted by: Mack. 28th May 2019, 03:32 PM
Intrigued, looking forward to hearing from her.
Posted by: 365 28th May 2019, 03:55 PM
Amazing artwork!
Posted by: Theonix 28th May 2019, 04:03 PM
Loving the colour scheme for the single cover! Can't wait to hear this
Posted by: Calum 28th May 2019, 04:16 PM
Loving the artwork!
Really hoping she can pull it out the bag with this one because I've been far from blown away by her recently (Con Calma aside)
Posted by: (Zach) 28th May 2019, 04:53 PM
I actually hate the artwork
Posted by: RobBob 28th May 2019, 07:22 PM
I’m just gonna keep expectations of how this will perform super low and then I can’t be disappointed.
Posted by: Jack 28th May 2019, 09:10 PM
Come on Katy, get that redemption era you deserve!
Posted by: 365 29th May 2019, 08:43 AM
It's such a busy week but I really hope this gets bigger first week support than 365 did. Cover of Hot Hits, Insta-Radio 1 support, iTunes banner like Chained and ME did. I can see it all going to Miley or Cardi though.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 29th May 2019, 09:36 AM
Is this actually for a new album/era, or is it a release similar to 'Rise'?
Posted by: 365 29th May 2019, 09:43 AM
QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ May 29 2019, 10:36 AM)
Is this actually for a new album/era, or is it a release similar to 'Rise'?
Her A&R have tagged it as #NewEra and #KP5 so yeah
Posted by: Jonjo 29th May 2019, 10:58 AM
SO EXCITED. I honestly don't know what I want or expect from her at this point but I am really excited!
Posted by: 365 29th May 2019, 10:59 AM
I'm told Never Really Over is insta-B listed on R1, which goes to show the radios have good confidence in it, despite the recent under-performances.
Posted by: 365 29th May 2019, 02:54 PM
Samples the chorus on this song!
Posted by: Juan Carlos 29th May 2019, 03:02 PM
Oh! That's the reason why Dagny, Jason Gill and Michelle Buzz are getting writing credits.
Posted by: troublepink 29th May 2019, 03:47 PM
I love the artwork Does anybody know the font used on the cover?
This, 365 and Chained are her Black Mirror trilogy!
Posted by: RobBob 29th May 2019, 07:22 PM
I have goosebumps from the teaser alone.
Posted by: 365 29th May 2019, 08:38 PM
https://streamable.com/0wzwc
Preview here!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 29th May 2019, 10:00 PM
That sounds excellent!
For some reason I was expecting a ballad from the title.
Posted by: 365 30th May 2019, 12:45 PM
Another sneak peak of the pre-chorus from GMA
Posted by: tommie 30th May 2019, 02:33 PM
Radio stations getting ready for the new Katy Perry single:
Posted by: (Zach) 30th May 2019, 02:50 PM
This picks up where the snippet above left off. Sounds great!
Posted by: Mack. 30th May 2019, 04:13 PM
Well this sounds fantastic from Katy. Looking forward to the full version. What are we expecting this to do chartwise?
Posted by: Codyclipse 🌙 30th May 2019, 04:35 PM
why does this give me The Cure teas
Posted by: 365 30th May 2019, 05:27 PM
QUOTE(Codyclipse 🌙 @ May 30 2019, 05:35 PM)
why does this give me The Cure teas
No idea
Posted by: (Zach) 30th May 2019, 06:09 PM
QUOTE(Codyclipse 🌙 @ May 30 2019, 04:35 PM)
why does this give me The Cure teas
I can see it. I think it's the loud punchy vocals against similar production.
Posted by: Liаm 30th May 2019, 08:11 PM
This sounds fab, I'm hyped now *.*
Posted by: jakee 31st May 2019, 02:52 AM
i find it quite strange to rely on a sample from a blogpop fav to launch a new record campaign
maybe it is excellent but it doesn’t invite confidence
Posted by: troublepink 31st May 2019, 04:09 AM
Posted by: troublepink 31st May 2019, 04:10 AM
Love this!! And she is looking amazing lately
Posted by: Juan Carlos 31st May 2019, 04:15 AM
This is her best lead single in my opinion.
Posted by: *Tim 31st May 2019, 04:34 AM
The wig *.*
She's gonna be succesful again! No more soccer mum teas
Posted by: lotita 31st May 2019, 05:22 AM
BOP
Posted by: lewistgreen 31st May 2019, 06:07 AM
My wig has been snatched *.* This is great!
Posted by: Jonjo 31st May 2019, 06:07 AM
Loooove this. When hearing the chorus in the snippet, I feared the chorus would be a bit too wordy and clunky, but it ends up being quite fun and punchy.
Yaaaay. So glad that even if nothing else, I'm loving this!
Posted by: 365 31st May 2019, 07:11 AM
It's great. I'm pleased.
Her Spotify support in the UK is shit though. I can't see her making top 50 tomorrow. Her US support is great though.
Posted by: J▲hq 31st May 2019, 07:30 AM
QUOTE(Juan Carlos @ May 31 2019, 05:15 AM)
This is her best lead single in my opinion.
This is definitely a step in the right direction but calm down and think of Roar x
Posted by: Klaus 31st May 2019, 08:38 AM
This is so good!
Posted by: Jordan Lee 31st May 2019, 08:38 AM
Despite them both being huge I’d put Roar and California Gurls towards the bottom of my fave Katy tracks.
So as far as leads go this is already joint second with Chained. (For some reason I’ve always stanned I Kissed A Girl).
This is easily better than those for me and better than the majority of Witness tracks on first listen.
I’ll admit the video I need to rewatch to understand / get. But the song itself is a big step up and I think it’ll be a big slow burn type hit.
Great to see her back though
Posted by: troylovesmusic 31st May 2019, 08:55 AM
The best thing she’s put out in years can actually see this being a hit for her !
Posted by: 365 31st May 2019, 08:58 AM
It's a bit of s home run isn't it?
#10 on iTunes!
Posted by: BiLLYx 31st May 2019, 11:26 AM
I feel like this is the era that should have followed Teenage Dream - The last album was very generic but this is unmistakably Katy and I LOVE it
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 31st May 2019, 11:57 AM
Oh, this is seriously fantastic! What a storming return.
Posted by: RobBob 31st May 2019, 12:13 PM
This is f***ing perfect. I'm absolutely bowled over, this is EXACTLY what she should be doing at this point in her career - meshing that kind of spiritual, mature nature she's been edging her way to but with a very commercial and blog-pop kind of edge.
OFVOIVEIOJEVJIOEOIERIOGREIORE LOOOOVE.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 31st May 2019, 12:17 PM
I'm so glad to hear something from her again which has a storming chorus!
Been so long.
Posted by: 365 31st May 2019, 12:35 PM
At first I was like "this wordy chorus isn't gonna work" but the way the song builds up it would usually have a generic drop, so replacing that with a quirky memorable tongue twister is ultimately what makes the song unique.
Posted by: blacksquare 31st May 2019, 12:57 PM
I know it isn't reinventing the wheel but it's just so joyous and wonderful. Euphoric.
I can't think of the last lead pop single that sounds as massive as this.
Posted by: 365 31st May 2019, 01:02 PM
I wonder if it'll do well commercially. It might be a cute hit in the UK but the US will be an uphill battle.
Posted by: Liаm 31st May 2019, 01:24 PM
Oh wow this is bloody brilliant
Posted by: Saenerys 31st May 2019, 01:33 PM
Love this and am hooked on the first few listens. It feels very Chained To The Rhythm in that I was addicted but rarely go back to it anymore.
Posted by: (Zach) 31st May 2019, 02:16 PM
For me, this is her best single since Dark Horse.
Posted by: HarryEzra 31st May 2019, 03:21 PM
Really into this allready!!
Posted by: Juliano 31st May 2019, 03:36 PM
Yes! My favourite release of the week by a mile, my favourite single of hers since Roar, I actually prefer this to Dark Horse.
Posted by: Defaze 31st May 2019, 04:41 PM
I've loved a lot of her output recently despite the flopiness, but this is a huge triumph. Can see this being a big hit for her! The video's great too -- perfect amount of silly without veering into ridiculousness (hello Swish Swish).
Posted by: Jonjo 31st May 2019, 05:34 PM
I feel like this is what you get when you're not trying to chase viral trends with memes and stuff.
Just a pure, solid, all out pop banger. I'm one of the few who liked Witness, but there was no arguing it was a step back, but this brings her right back on track!
Posted by: Calum 31st May 2019, 06:48 PM
She’s BACK *.*
Let’s just forget Witness and 365 ever happened x
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 31st May 2019, 06:48 PM
I'm pretty sure this is challenging to be the best thing she's ever done for me.
Posted by: blacksquare 31st May 2019, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ May 31 2019, 07:48 PM)
I'm pretty sure this is challenging to be the best thing she's ever done for me.
I don't want to jump the gun either but I am having similar feelings — she hasn't had a song as euphoric as this since Teenage Dream. That anthemic pre-chorus leading into THAT chorus. And then her note into the middle eight. So wonderful.
Posted by: Cucumberella 31st May 2019, 07:54 PM
oh this is SO great!!!! so is the video. it's absolutely MADE for her.
katy perry is always at her best when she injects the fun.
Posted by: RobBob 31st May 2019, 08:29 PM
I’ve been avoiding making the Teenage Dream comparisons because I didn’t wanna look back in months like “wow I really went overboard” but that is how I feel... big statement though.
Posted by: Jαsє 31st May 2019, 09:04 PM
Yup this is absolutely brilliant! Really impressed.
Posted by: Jαsє 31st May 2019, 09:15 PM
omg that pre-chorus is so anthemic
Posted by: 365 31st May 2019, 09:29 PM
Pitchfork have said https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/katy-perry-never-really-over/
Posted by: Klaus 31st May 2019, 10:00 PM
and they’d be right
Posted by: slowdown73 31st May 2019, 10:05 PM
I think this is pretty average. It’s better than her recent stuff but not a patch on her earlier classic hits.
Posted by: Cqmerqn 31st May 2019, 10:55 PM
I prefer 365, but this is still great the chorus is a bit of a mouthful, but I like it!
Posted by: 365 1st June 2019, 08:45 AM
#3 on iTunes US and UK when the last few singles struggled even get top 15, 26 on Apple Music already, new wig and critical acclaim across the board. Is she back?
Posted by: Cqmerqn 1st June 2019, 11:18 AM
Debuts at #35 on US Pop Radio!!
Posted by: Envoirment 1st June 2019, 12:39 PM
This is a BOP! It's Teenage Dream meets 2019. Such a great return to form. I hope this becomes a massive summer hit everywhere!
Posted by: danG 1st June 2019, 01:08 PM
Liking this quite a bit, easily her best single since Swish Swish and makes up for the sub-par 365 and her pointless Con Calma remix.
Posted by: Jack 1st June 2019, 02:30 PM
Really can't get enough, I loved all of the Witness singles but this is a spectacular return to form. I think she could be on to a big hit with this!
Posted by: Jack 1st June 2019, 03:13 PM
Debuts at #31 on Spotify UK!
Posted by: Lukuzz 1st June 2019, 03:32 PM
Absolutely love this
Posted by: Atonement 1st June 2019, 04:27 PM
I didn't expect this positive reaction.
I think she really bloomed artistically with Witness and this seems like a step backwards for me but I guess it's alright.
Posted by: 365 1st June 2019, 04:56 PM
The Spotify numbers are great. 31 in UK is good given she didn't have a big push here.
10 Global and 11 in US are much better than I expected!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 1st June 2019, 05:58 PM
Did Zedd actually produce this?
I'm astounded if so, given he's been largely dreadful for quite a long time.
Posted by: 365 1st June 2019, 06:00 PM
QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 1 2019, 06:58 PM)
Did Zedd actually produce this?
I'm astounded if so, given he's been largely dreadful for quite a long time.
It was produced by Dreamlab too. Zedd probably just added the ticking clock over it.
Posted by: RobBob 1st June 2019, 11:21 PM
31 is MUCH better than I expected and the US debut is MUUUUUUUUCH better! I will still try not to expect too much though
Posted by: RobBob 1st June 2019, 11:52 PM
Going into Sunday still #3 on UK and US iTunes aswell! This is really exceeding the expectations for Miss Katy "over and cancelled" Perry and I'm so proud... I'm so proud to see it.
Posted by: 365 2nd June 2019, 03:54 AM
QUOTE(RobBob @ Jun 2 2019, 12:52 AM)
Going into Sunday still #3 on UK and US iTunes aswell! This is really exceeding the expectations for Miss Katy "over and cancelled" Perry and I'm so proud... I'm so proud to see it.
Yeah... I'm in shock. Everything seems to be working out. I low key thought her commercial charts career might be over.
Posted by: Atonement 2nd June 2019, 09:40 AM
I hope it will put her back on the map. I'm not the biggest fan of the song but she's a really likeable pop star and just deserves it.
Posted by: 365 2nd June 2019, 11:18 AM
Thanks to Rob for the new Katy NRO era banner! It's beaut!
Posted by: Cqmerqn 2nd June 2019, 01:53 PM
Spotify 01/06/2019
#11 US (=) !!!! #14 WW (-3) #33 (-2)
Amazing
Posted by: blacksquare 2nd June 2019, 02:06 PM
QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Jun 2 2019, 02:53 PM)
Spotify 01/06/2019
#11 US (=) !!!! #14 WW (-3) #33 (-2)
Amazing
That is an impressive hold, right?
I doubt we all expected this after 365.
Posted by: Cqmerqn 2nd June 2019, 02:18 PM
I was expecting -10 at least everywhere, so yeah, this is great!
Posted by: Envoirment 2nd June 2019, 02:19 PM
Come through Katy! Given that she is still not on a lot of playlists, the spotify numbers are impressive! Everyone I know who's heard the song likes it which is a good sign. I think this could be the song of the summer (ok maybe jumping the gun a bit).
Posted by: 365 2nd June 2019, 02:19 PM
In the UK that's especially good given her support here isn't great compared to US
Posted by: troublepink 2nd June 2019, 02:34 PM
I love how much everyone seems to love this! I've been playing it all weekend, can't wait to hear more from the new era 💕
Posted by: Jade 2nd June 2019, 06:17 PM
I really want to love this because it starts off strong but I find the quick-fire wordy part so jarring it doesn't work as effortlessly as something like Hayley Kiyoko's 'Curious' for example. Idk, maybe it'll be a grower, I hope so as it feels weird to be one of the only ones not loving it when I do usually really like Katy.
Posted by: Defaze 2nd June 2019, 07:30 PM
Shook at how well this is holding up. G'won Katy.
Posted by: Riser 3rd June 2019, 01:53 AM
I don't love it yet but I like it! It's pretty much exactly what I wanted from Katy, the song's not groundbreaking at all and that's fine with me. I hope it'll keep growing, certainly wouldn't call it one of her best yet.
Posted by: 365 3rd June 2019, 07:44 AM
I'm enamored by this. It also does a great job of playing to her strengths, giving the people what they want from her, AND all while feeling like a fresh step forward for her, with the sample giving scandi-influences. It has about 3 different hooks and they all flow into each other so, so well.
Posted by: Juliano 3rd June 2019, 12:37 PM
Day 4 and I'm still majorly in love, this could be becoming my favourite Katy song of all time.
Posted by: SamJudd 3rd June 2019, 02:36 PM
YES, she's back and finally back on form with her best release since the 'Prism' era and I've already ranked this as my 2nd fave lead single by her (after 'Roar'). I have to admit I was rather worried for a while, especially since the awful 'Witness' era and a string of MEH singles. I'd feared that she was fading, and since not having that terrible human piece of shit Dr Luke on production duties, she's really struggled to find her sound, The 'Witness' album proved that and felt that there was something missing.
Thankfully 'NRO' is a very promising step forward and could may well return Katy to her former glory days.
Posted by: 365 3rd June 2019, 02:42 PM
Currently:
UK: #3 iTunes #30 Spotify (Spotify support has not been as strong here as the other main markets) #14 Apple Music
US: #2 iTunes #13 Spotify (for a weekend drop for a new song this is very steady) #32 Apple Music (This is very strong for a pop song, AM US is very rap dominated)
All in all it's shaping to be her biggest hit since Chained, and if bigger than that it could be her biggest since Dark Horse. Time will tell, but it's looking promising.
Posted by: Scene 3rd June 2019, 10:02 PM
This is by far my favourite Katy song since 2011!! Nothing since besides Swish Swish has excited me as much as this. It's the perfect comeback track (and video) for her - mature, catchy, not OTT, not too leftfield, full of character. I'd love for this to be Katy's 6th #1 - but in this climate I won't get my hopes up. That Chorus!!!!
Posted by: Botchia 3rd June 2019, 10:07 PM
I was initially underwhelmed by this and it felt a little disappointing for someone of her calibre aside the iconic 100 words a second chorus.
However, I've fully changed my opinion and this is a huge bop!! I'm sold!
Posted by: RobBob 4th June 2019, 12:54 PM
I'm actually starting to allow myself to believe this is going to be a hit... its stability is really impressive.
Posted by: Wall 4th June 2019, 01:22 PM
It’s back to 10 on USA Spotify.
Posted by: 365 4th June 2019, 01:23 PM
QUOTE(RobBob @ Jun 4 2019, 01:54 PM)
I'm actually starting to allow myself to believe this is going to be a hit... its stability is really impressive.
It's up to #22 on Spotify which is great since she's still only #33 on Hot Hits Uk. It's the highest she's been on Spotify since Chained to the Rhythm
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 4th June 2019, 01:32 PM
QUOTE(365 @ Jun 4 2019, 02:23 PM)
It's up to #22 on Spotify which is great since she's still only #33 on Hot Hits Uk. It's the highest she's been on Spotify since Chained to the Rhythm
Did 'Feels' not get any higher than #22 on Spotify? That really surprises me!
Posted by: RobBob 4th June 2019, 01:34 PM
QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 4 2019, 02:32 PM)
Did 'Feels' not get any higher than #22 on Spotify? That really surprises me!
That peaked at #3 but that's a Calvin single really, so I assume Joe means Katy leads.
Posted by: 365 4th June 2019, 01:41 PM
I genuinely keep forgetting Feels was a thing, even though I enjoy it. D:
Posted by: danG 4th June 2019, 02:48 PM
I love Feels but don’t really associate it with Katy, she only has a few lines and it’s not the greatest she’s ever sounded as a vocalist. Suspect that’s the case with many here.
Posted by: UltraME! 5th June 2019, 09:58 AM
Obsessed with this, the chorus is SO good 😍😍
Posted by: Theonix 5th June 2019, 12:43 PM
I've just realised I haven't posted about this yet because it's been growing on me loads - I've had the chorus in my head everyday and I'm trying to learn the fast speak-singing section
I'm just shocked more than anything about how overwhelmingly positive the reaction to this has been - I was really ready to give up on Katy's days of success after Witness and her features since have underperformed but a top 20 debut in both the UK & US would be absolutely huge for her! I'm hoping the album lives up to the same high standards that she's set
Posted by: Juliano 5th June 2019, 02:02 PM
God... even my fiancé was going around the house whistling this and it's not really his usual cup of tea. That's a good sign! Probably because I don't stop playing it though. LOL!
Posted by: gooddelta 5th June 2019, 02:07 PM
This is such a great track, a reminder of the type of pop song that Katy still does better than anyone else. Big, hooky, layered and colourful with lots going on, but without sounding messy.
I would love an album in the same vein, Witness was good enough but lacked the usual Katy magic, aside from Chained To The Rhythm.
Posted by: Jαsє 5th June 2019, 03:44 PM
I legit get frustrated when I mess up while singing the chorus
It's doing SO well in the UK to be top 20 when it's so far down Hot Hits UK!
Posted by: 365 6th June 2019, 09:13 PM
Well it had a better week 1 than 365.
Posted by: jakee 7th June 2019, 01:41 AM
unexpectedly brilliant
Posted by: 152chris 7th June 2019, 03:33 PM
never thought i would be this into a kp song again in me life. honestly like all those UK streams are ME
Posted by: 365 7th June 2019, 04:33 PM
Debuts at 13 which is great given Bon App, Swish and 365 didn't even debut top 35.
Posted by: dandy* 7th June 2019, 04:50 PM
Just heard this earlier today and I really like it, hoping it manages to be a decent hit for her.
Posted by: George.keh 7th June 2019, 04:50 PM
Highest charting solo single since Roar
Posted by: Defaze 7th June 2019, 07:52 PM
QUOTE(George.keh @ Jun 7 2019, 05:50 PM)
Highest charting solo single since Roar
I never got the whole 'solo' distinction. I guarantee no-one's buying 'Dark Horse' on the basis of Juicy J's middle 8.
Still, fantastic debut after last era and especially impressive given how limited the initial Spotify support was. Can easily seeing it going top 10 next week.
Posted by: 365 7th June 2019, 08:30 PM
I really hope it does! I'm worried it'll go like 13-11-13-15 kind of chart run. Especially given Hot Hits have given it a shady placement even after a week of it doing well. It's basically had the same Spotify support as 365. Starting it off at #5 on NMF? What was that about?
Anyway, it debuted at #8 on the uk AirPlay chart which is GREAT.
Posted by: Jordan Lee 8th June 2019, 12:44 AM
Even if it ends missing the top 10 I think it’ll end up having good longevity and sticking around quite a bit. (Maybe like a Dangerous Woman by Ariana like hit - using that example as that was also a lead single).
It’s at 9 on iTunes Sales but I think it should climb soon as the top 2 tracks will fall a lot through the week.
The reaction has been positive though and even if this doesn’t go top 10 it’s set the wheels in motion for a revival.
Posted by: Voodoo 8th June 2019, 06:04 AM
Posted by: (Zach) 8th June 2019, 01:58 PM
I'm pretty happy with it entering at #7 in Australia.
Posted by: Jack 8th June 2019, 02:43 PM
I'm also worried about something similar happening Joe
It may very well pick up but I can see a low Top 10 peak at best which is still amazing all things considered, but I was low key hoping for a big Top 5 hit really
Posted by: 365 9th June 2019, 12:08 PM
QUOTE(Jack @ Jun 8 2019, 03:43 PM)
I'm also worried about something similar happening Joe
It may very well pick up but I can see a low Top 10 peak at best which is still amazing all things considered, but I was low key hoping for a big Top 5 hit really
Keep streaming !!
I pray Hot Hits moves this up at least a good 10 places tomorrow.
Posted by: Mack. 10th June 2019, 01:20 PM
Hopefully on Friday it could climb into the Top10 in the UK.
Posted by: 365 10th June 2019, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(Mack. @ Jun 10 2019, 02:20 PM)
Hopefully on Friday it could climb into the Top10 in the UK.
Very unlikely sadly. It'll probably be between 14 - 12. It hasn't recovered from the weekend effect very well on iTunes yet. There's always next week!
Posted by: 365 11th June 2019, 08:02 AM
Spotify have announced they are going to premiere alternate ending music videos on their playlists, so I guess that's what they're waiting for with Hot Hits.
Posted by: Theonix 11th June 2019, 12:37 PM
Debuts at #15 in America! Her first top 20 hit since Feels/Chained (as lead)!
Posted by: Mack. 12th June 2019, 11:10 AM
QUOTE(365 @ Jun 10 2019, 03:05 PM)
Very unlikely sadly. It'll probably be between 14 - 12. It hasn't recovered from the weekend effect very well on iTunes yet. There's always next week!
Debuts at #15 in America! Her first top 20 hit since Feels/Chained (as lead)!
Not bad! Could've been a lot worse off the back of 365.
...wondering if this Taylor collab, if it's true, will overshadow this?
Posted by: 365 12th June 2019, 04:08 PM
QUOTE(RobBob @ Jun 12 2019, 03:17 PM)
Not bad! Could've been a lot worse off the back of 365.
...wondering if this Taylor collab, if it's true, will overshadow this?
It will sadly so hopefully it comes out in a couple of weeks to give this room to breathe.
Posted by: Juan Carlos 14th June 2019, 06:11 AM
The vertical video is up on Spotify and it's at the top of Today's Top Hits.
Posted by: blacksquare 14th June 2019, 08:18 AM
QUOTE(Juan Carlos @ Jun 14 2019, 06:11 AM)
The vertical video is up on Spotify and it's at the top of Today's Top Hits.
Really hope this pulls through and smashes.
The best pop single in months.
Posted by: 365 14th June 2019, 11:08 AM
Yaaaas I love that Spotify US / Canada / Aus / Nz are stanning this so much!
Shame about ours however.
Posted by: 365 14th June 2019, 11:24 AM
Ohhh it's been added to Hot Hits now. Not hugely high but it'll do.
Posted by: LMLou 15th June 2019, 05:11 PM
6 places higher and 30k up on last Friday on Spotify, might reach a new peak this week
Posted by: Juan Carlos 16th June 2019, 12:02 AM
An alternate ending of the music video could be seen while you listen to the track on Spotify mobile.
Posted by: Theonix 17th June 2019, 01:15 PM
Moved up to #17 on Hot Hits UK!
Posted by: Saenerys 17th June 2019, 08:38 PM
Utterly obsessed with this! Could it be my favourite lead of hers??!
Posted by: 365 17th June 2019, 11:40 PM
QUOTE(Theonix @ Jun 17 2019, 02:15 PM)
Moved up to #17 on Hot Hits UK!
Finally! thats a nice 13 place jump. Hopefully it can head toward the top 10 on Spotify now
Posted by: Theonix 18th June 2019, 03:27 PM
New peak of #13 on UK Spotify now
Posted by: 365 18th June 2019, 03:53 PM
QUOTE(Theonix @ Jun 18 2019, 04:27 PM)
New peak of #13 on UK Spotify now
Yay, if it keeps climbing hopefully it can go top 10 next week!
Posted by: Lukuzz 18th June 2019, 04:22 PM
Needs to go top 10, probably in my Top 3 songs of the year so far really should be a number 1 her best song in years!
Posted by: 365 19th June 2019, 01:39 PM
New peak of #9 on Global Spotify. It increased in the UK too, but Taylor leap-frogged so it's still at #13.
Just another move up on Hot Hits of a few more places and it'll make the top 10. It would be a done deal if her label discounted it on Friday.
Edit: It got moved down to 22 on Hot Hits now. Vertical is up to 13th though...I'm not really sure which is more beneficial to have higher?
Posted by: Jαsє 19th June 2019, 02:03 PM
This needs to be doing stream numbers like Old Town Road. It's so good
Posted by: 365 19th June 2019, 03:21 PM
QUOTE(Jαsє @ Jun 19 2019, 03:03 PM)
This needs to be doing stream numbers like Old Town Road. It's so good
Tea, the public don't have that taste level though.
Posted by: RobBob 19th June 2019, 03:21 PM
Why are Spotify UK so reluctant to pushing this properly?
Posted by: 365 19th June 2019, 03:26 PM
QUOTE(RobBob @ Jun 19 2019, 04:21 PM)
Why are Spotify UK so reluctant to pushing this properly?
I think maybe the vertical being 12th/13th might help it more than the track being 17th which it was earlier in the week. In a way, it's the highest it's been. We'll see tomorrow if it gets another boost I guess. It would be nice having it top 10 on Spotify going into the weekend to guarantee top 10 overall.
Posted by: 365 20th June 2019, 11:08 AM
QUOTE(365 @ Jun 7 2019, 09:30 PM)
I really hope it does! I'm worried it'll go like 13-11-13-15 kind of chart run.
With Nas, Ed, Shawn & Camila and Stormzy all probably debuting top 10 next week, why do I feel like Katy's going to be unlucky and have this chart run.
Posted by: troublepink 20th June 2019, 02:08 PM
I heard this on the radio last night on my way to work... I don't listen to the radio much, so it was a fun surprise for the rare time I listen to it for this to come on
Posted by: RobBob 23rd June 2019, 12:18 AM
Katy staying still at #14 on Spotify after all yesterday's new entries is impressive!
Posted by: RobBob 23rd June 2019, 01:25 PM
UP TO #11 ON UK SPOTIFY!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 23rd June 2019, 06:52 PM
Is it fair to say this could be a bigger hit in the longrun than 'Chained', even if it doesn't quite manage to peak as high as that did?
Posted by: (Zach) 24th June 2019, 01:55 AM
QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 23 2019, 06:52 PM)
Is it fair to say this could be a bigger hit in the longrun than 'Chained', even if it doesn't quite manage to peak as high as that did?
I can see it. I think this will make Top 10 this week or next.
Posted by: 365 24th June 2019, 11:08 AM
Vertical up from 13 to 5th on Hot Hits and song from 23 to 13! It really could make the top 10 this week, guess it's never really over.
Posted by: 365 24th June 2019, 11:08 AM
Vertical up from 13 to 5th on Hot Hits and song from 23 to 13! It really could make the top 10 this week, guess it's never really over.
Posted by: Jαsє 24th June 2019, 01:39 PM
I definitely stand by my decision I originally made a couple of days after its release that this is officially my fave Katy lead. Not getting sick of it in the slightest!
Posted by: 365 25th June 2019, 02:16 PM
#11 in the mids today. Its basically between Katy and Taylor for that #10 position this week and is verrrry close.
Katy is back at #11 on Spotify today and Taylor is #16...So it's going to be a tense week for anyone wanting to see Katy get another top 10 hit.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 25th June 2019, 04:00 PM
Come on Taylor, allow her this! You're friends now.
Posted by: (Zach) 25th June 2019, 09:30 PM
Looking at the global Spotify chart and excluding new releases, this has the highest 7-day increase inside the Top 20.
Posted by: RobBob 25th June 2019, 09:57 PM
This has moved up to #3 on Hot Hits UK so hopefully that can give an extra push to top 10! If not, 59p reduction ahead of next week pls!
Posted by: 365 26th June 2019, 03:43 PM
Sadly it's a no for top 10 this week, but it could very well make #11. Spotify songs all fell yesterday (I think maybe the Summer Rewind playlists took a lot of listens away from tracks) apart from Taylor for some reason who had a huge jump.
I guess it's getting late in the day now to make the top 10, but it could make it next week if they discount it.
If it doesn't make the top 10, a run of 14-13-12-11 is going to be very frustrating.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 26th June 2019, 03:58 PM
RAGE
Posted by: Jαsє 26th June 2019, 04:25 PM
Oh for f***s sake, especially with some of the shit above it
Posted by: blacksquare 26th June 2019, 04:46 PM
So disappointing — the perfect comeback single.
If this had been released pre-Rise then it would have been a massive number one. It's an anthem.
Posted by: 365 27th June 2019, 01:26 PM
I still think it has a chance of top 10 next week if it continues to slightly climb over the next week on Spotify. It's a done deal if she discounts at midnight, but if not there's a handful of songs I think she could overtake:
SOS, Crown, You Need To Calm Down, Old Town Road, Wish You Well, No Guidance for example.
Posted by: George.keh 27th June 2019, 01:42 PM
Surely SOS and Old Town Road will be on ACR soon enough to allow Katy to enter the top 10
Posted by: 365 27th June 2019, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(George.keh @ Jun 27 2019, 02:42 PM)
Surely SOS and Old Town Road will be on ACR soon enough to allow Katy to enter the top 10
Old Town Road already is but is still above her, but if she continues these small spotify increases she could overtake him as that song is continuing to dip week on week.
Posted by: 365 27th June 2019, 03:24 PM
QUOTE(365 @ Jun 27 2019, 02:26 PM)
I still think it has a chance of top 10 next week if it continues to slightly climb over the next week on Spotify. It's a done deal if she discounts at midnight, but if not there's a handful of songs I think she could overtake:
Speaking of, she's finally hit #10 on Spotify!
Posted by: Jαsє 27th June 2019, 03:41 PM
Also back in the top 10 (#09) on iTunes
Posted by: RobBob 27th June 2019, 03:55 PM
YESSSS @ hitting top 10 on Spotify
Posted by: Jαsє 28th June 2019, 04:22 PM
New Spotify peak of #09 today
Posted by: 365 28th June 2019, 04:35 PM
QUOTE(Jαsє @ Jun 28 2019, 05:22 PM)
New Spotify peak of #09 today
If she can stay top 10 on Spotify throughout the weekend she should have it in the bag. It's going to be tense!
Posted by: (Zach) 29th June 2019, 05:43 PM
Only down one to #10 on Spotify.
Posted by: 365 1st July 2019, 08:58 AM
Yesterday's mids: 8 Sigala 9 Mabel 9 10 Avcii 11 chris brown 12 Katy 13 ? 14 Taylor
Posted by: Wall 1st July 2019, 09:43 AM
She should overtake Mabel and hopefully Chris Brown.
It's weird she's not performed this once live yet.
Posted by: 365 1st July 2019, 01:33 PM
QUOTE(Wall @ Jul 1 2019, 10:43 AM)
She should overtake Mabel and hopefully Chris Brown.
It's weird she's not performed this once live yet.
She overtook Chris Brown today...But Lewis Someone You Loved overtook so she's still sitting at #12
Posted by: Nick Jonas 2nd July 2019, 01:44 PM
I think this has reached its peak now.
Posted by: Jαsє 2nd July 2019, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(Nick Jonas @ Jul 2 2019, 02:44 PM)
I think this has reached its peak now.
A disgrace
Posted by: 365 2nd July 2019, 03:51 PM
QUOTE(Jαsє @ Jul 2 2019, 03:01 PM)
A disgrace
Yeah, it's been incredibly unlucky. Little Mix and Taylor keeping her out the other day despite this probably being the bigger overall hit. This week it increased in streams to it's peak but Glasto effect pushed it down. Mabel discounting and staying ahead of her despite being lower on Spotify. At least it's been an undeniably stable hit and is showing great longevity!
Posted by: Jack 3rd July 2019, 12:15 PM
The optimist in me is hoping it could still sneak a week in the Top 10 next week.
Really a disgrace though, a 10/10 pop song that would've been huge a couple years back but the public are too busy streaming Ed Sheeran, Lewis Capaldi & CHRIS BROWN!! I have to laugh.
Posted by: 365 3rd July 2019, 12:50 PM
QUOTE(Jack @ Jul 3 2019, 01:15 PM)
The optimist in me is hoping it could still sneak a week in the Top 10 next week.
Really a disgrace though, a 10/10 pop song that would've been huge a couple years back but the public are too busy streaming Ed Sheeran, Lewis Capaldi & CHRIS BROWN!! I have to laugh.
SOS is on ACR next week and the Glasto effects will wear off, so there is an outside chance. But the sales have collapsed a bit, as myself and Rob mentioned a few times, a discount would have done it, but it seems the label have not realised that. Also Hot Hits moved it down
How frustrating.
By the way the songs overall sales by Friday will be approximately 132k, which is pretty great for the 5th week for a non-top 10 song.
Hot AC: 10 10 KATY PERRY Never Really Over 3478 3375 103 16.184
AC: 20 19 KATY PERRY Never Really Over 175 160 15 0.387
Officially Top 10 at US Top 40/M radio.
Posted by: Theonix 2nd August 2019, 05:44 PM
Certified Silver!
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 2nd August 2019, 08:40 PM
The song's ... alright, I suppose, but it's not a Katy classic. Tbh, I prefer Bon Appetit, berber.
Posted by: 365 12th August 2019, 02:41 PM
This increased last week, so is back on SCR (and is increasing again this week). So has at least 3 more weeks before ACR, probably even 4..
Including this week's midweek this is the chart run so far:
13-14-12-12-13-14-22-21-24-28-28 (11 weeks)
A smash so big it has cannibalised 'Small Tank'!
Posted by: Medellíam 12th August 2019, 02:59 PM
I thought it was going to drop away after that 14-22 fall so I'm pleased to see it sticking around. It's a shame it never went Top 10 but I'm really happy with how it's done.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 12th August 2019, 03:06 PM
I think this has actually done really quite well for a Katy Perry single in 2019, considering where her career's at now.
Wish it'd have nabbed that top 10 place too, but it is what it is.
Posted by: Voodoo 15th August 2019, 01:42 PM
How many units has it sold in the UK so far?
Posted by: 365 15th August 2019, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(Voodoo @ Aug 15 2019, 02:42 PM)
How many units has it sold in the UK so far?
I'll know the exact amount tomorrow, hopefully - It'll be on around 250k though.
Posted by: 365 21st August 2019, 12:12 PM
This instant classic really pops off live!
Posted by: 365 25th August 2019, 11:09 AM
Taylor agrees it's one of her best!
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 25th August 2019, 11:12 AM
And yet she abandoned it! I guess the team is looking for a huge hit, not realising that NRO was just where they needed to be rn.
Posted by: 365 1st September 2019, 04:58 PM
Heart FM have started spamming this 12 weeks later lmao. It's a shame they didn't get on board right away because they have a bigger impact on iTunes than Capital most of the time, probably would have managed that top 10!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 1st September 2019, 09:50 PM
There are so many annoying little things they could've done to push this into the top 10, it's infuriating to think about it.
But mind you, who would have thought Katy Perry in 2019 would have a top 15 single, and one that spent 14 weeks in the top 40? I wouldn't have expected that!
Posted by: 365 15th September 2019, 08:30 PM
Posted by: SKOB 16th September 2019, 06:21 AM
And still they chose to move on to Small Talk so soon, bizarre.
Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 16th September 2019, 09:00 AM
She needed to fire her whole team after Prism. This is just more proof they are absolutely shit.
Posted by: 365 18th September 2019, 02:03 PM
Back into the top 50 on iTunes
Get those 40 sales!
Posted by: Nick Jonas 18th September 2019, 04:44 PM
QUOTE(365 @ Sep 18 2019, 03:03 PM)
Back into the top 50 on iTunes
Get those 40 sales!
Smash hit!
Posted by: 365 30th September 2019, 01:49 PM
Now her 5th longest charting song on Spotify Global (18 weeks), behind Feels, Dark Horse, Roar and Chained.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 8th October 2019, 05:03 PM
Never Really Over / Small Talk is being released on 12" vinyl for Record Store Day Black Friday!
https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/11827
Posted by: Jonjo 8th October 2019, 05:37 PM
I really hope this song can somehow score Katy her first Grammy next year. A f***ING SONG.
Posted by: Nick F1 8th October 2019, 09:20 PM
She has no chance.
Posted by: Juan Carlos 9th October 2019, 02:22 AM
A double-single release on vinyl of this alongside "Small Talk" will be out on November 29.
Posted by: gooddelta 18th October 2019, 08:33 AM
I've come to realise that this is my favourite Katy single ever. The no.12 peak is actually such an injustice for it considering the quality of the song, it's on the same 'unexpected deep into a career highlight' level as the likes of Believe and On The Floor for me.
Posted by: Mikal 18th October 2019, 11:46 AM
I'm baffled as to why they didn't continue to push this. They had a huge hit on their hands and decided "Small Talk" was going to do well? This would have been a big hit had it been given longer to flourish.
Posted by: Trick Or Queef! 18th October 2019, 11:57 AM
This is the team that didn't release Walking On Air as 2nd single, DH as third, then LL for four no.1s after Teenage Dream's 6. They are useless.
Posted by: 365 18th October 2019, 01:20 PM
The song has legs tbh. It's gonna end up being one of her most streamed songs ever, it's already her 8th.
Posted by: Jordan Lee 20th November 2019, 02:32 PM
No GRAMMY nominations for this.
Genuinely surprised tbh!
Posted by: davidas 21st November 2019, 09:40 AM
Can't believe the Grammys snubbed this
Posted by: Jonjo 21st November 2019, 09:56 AM
It's disgusting. The fact that it's the best song out of the 5 already nominated in Pop Solo Performance and it really should've got a nomination at least!!
They really do hate her, don't they!? :/
Posted by: Jαsє 21st November 2019, 11:10 PM
QUOTE(gooddelta @ Oct 18 2019, 08:33 AM)
I've come to realise that this is my favourite Katy single ever. The no.12 peak is actually such an injustice for it considering the quality of the song, it's on the same 'unexpected deep into a career highlight' level as the likes of Believe and On The Floor for me.
Totally agreed
Posted by: davidas 11th December 2019, 11:41 AM
QUOTE(gooddelta @ Oct 18 2019, 08:33 AM)
I've come to realise that this is my favourite Katy single ever. The no.12 peak is actually such an injustice for it considering the quality of the song, it's on the same 'unexpected deep into a career highlight' level as the likes of Believe and On The Floor for me.
I mean it's good, but it's not THAT good.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 11th December 2019, 12:46 PM
I'm in agreement, only 'Teenage Dream' beats this for me. It's incredible.
Posted by: blacksquare 11th December 2019, 01:22 PM
QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Dec 11 2019, 12:46 PM)
I'm in agreement, only 'Teenage Dream' beats this for me. It's incredible.
100% with this. One of the best pop singles of the year.
This would have absolutely smashed post-Prism.
Posted by: December Dong 11th December 2019, 01:41 PM
It wouldn't have. It's good, but it's not all that.
Posted by: blacksquare 11th December 2019, 09:04 PM
QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 11 2019, 01:41 PM)
It wouldn't have. It's good, but it's not all that.
It's all that~
Posted by: Nick Jonas 11th December 2019, 10:39 PM
It’s not all that.
Posted by: Jonjo 11th December 2019, 10:46 PM
It's all that.
This is such a storming comeback. I *think* it's my favourite song of the year. (think, coz I havent done a list and can't be bothered to do a countdown - it's at least top 3)
Posted by: Jay ☆ 12th December 2019, 10:24 AM
I’m on Team “It’s all that” 🥳
Posted by: blacksquare 12th December 2019, 10:31 AM
QUOTE(Nick Jonas @ Dec 11 2019, 10:39 PM)
It’s not all that.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 12th December 2019, 11:19 AM
It's all that AND MORE.
I do think, actually - had she came back with this song following Prism at least a year earlier than she did, it would have been pretty massive.
Posted by: 365 12th December 2019, 04:28 PM
Nick Jonas (poster) having a negative Katy Perry opinion shocker
Posted by: Jordan Lee 12th December 2019, 07:20 PM
It’s my third favourite by her behind E.T and I Kissed A Girl.
A huge hit. In the pre streaming days it would’ve been at least a top 5 hit! I genuinely felt this could’ve gotten her that Grammy too at least for dance recording I’m stunned it didn’t get nominated at all. I also really like the video too. A BOP.
Posted by: Cameron 1st April 2020, 09:05 PM
This really is THAT song. I still listen to this constantly!
Posted by: Scene 2nd April 2020, 10:25 AM
I think this is officially my favourite Katy single ever now. Who would have thought? After 7 years (imo) of underwhelming material she delivered such a divine track.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 2nd April 2020, 11:12 AM
This just SLAPS every single time, doesn't it?
Posted by: Cameron 22nd June 2020, 06:53 PM
This. Saved. Pop.
I can't stop listening to this 24/7
Posted by: LJ JORD 7 25th June 2020, 03:59 PM
I just heard this track for the first time today and thought of this straight away. I’d seen it on here a while back on on one of the first pages just didn’t get round to listening until today when the OCC posted an interview with Dagny which mentioned that song and Katy’s Never Really Over.
Never Really Over really was one of those times Katy got it RIGHT, both visually and sonically.
Posted by: Gramii 2.0 29th June 2020, 01:46 AM
It still irritates me greatly that the world mostly slept on this masterpiece of our time. One year on and I still need to play it at least 2-3 times a week.
Posted by: dannjohn 30th June 2020, 09:13 AM
Well it will be slept on when the artist themselves sleeps on it...
though I do think the chorus would be an issue for the GP
Posted by: Adelita 20th July 2020, 04:47 PM
NRO? first single?
Posted by: Jack 20th July 2020, 04:50 PM
QUOTE(Adelita @ Jul 20 2020, 05:47 PM)
NRO? first single?
Go outside.
Posted by: Andrew. 20th July 2020, 04:51 PM
QUOTE(Adelita @ Jul 20 2020, 05:47 PM)
NRO? first single?
...Yes?
Posted by: Adelita 20th July 2020, 04:55 PM
QUOTE(Andrew. @ Jul 20 2020, 01:51 PM)
...Yes?
...No?
Posted by: Adelita 20th July 2020, 04:57 PM
QUOTE(Jack @ Jul 20 2020, 01:50 PM)
Go outside.
Keep hiding the truth.
Posted by: blacksquare 20th July 2020, 04:58 PM
QUOTE(Adelita @ Jul 20 2020, 05:55 PM)
...No?
It's the first single that was released from the album — what would you call it?
Perhaps the tracklist hadn't been finalised at that time, or they just wanted to hype the release of 'Daisies' by calling it the first single. It's not that deep.
Posted by: Adelita 20th July 2020, 05:01 PM
QUOTE(blacksquare @ Jul 20 2020, 01:58 PM)
It's the first single that was released from the album — what would you call it?
Perhaps the tracklist hadn't been finalised at that time, or they just wanted to hype the release of 'Daisies' by calling it the first single. It's not that deep.
Why so many mental juggling just to deny the truth? Just knowing how to read is enough to know that Daisies is the first single, Katy's own words, and it's not the desperate fans who will change that.
Posted by: blacksquare 20th July 2020, 05:22 PM
QUOTE(Adelita @ Jul 20 2020, 06:01 PM)
Why so many mental juggling just to deny the truth? Just knowing how to read is enough to know that Daisies is the first single, Katy's own words, and it's not the desperate fans who will change that.
It was quite literally the first single released from the album — a year ago. What would you call that? It's not difficult to grasp that Katy, and more importantly her team, would have wanted playlist support and hype for 'Daisies' after numerous underperforming singles last year. It's led the campaign this year.
I'm not entirely sure what you're so desperate to prove here, but it's embarrassing.
Posted by: Adelita 20th July 2020, 08:22 PM
QUOTE(blacksquare @ Jul 20 2020, 02:22 PM)
It was quite literally the first single released from the album — a year ago. What would you call that? It's not difficult to grasp that Katy, and more importantly her team, would have wanted playlist support and hype for 'Daisies' after numerous underperforming singles last year. It's led the campaign this year.
I'm not entirely sure what you're so desperate to prove here, but it's embarrassing.
The only shameful thing here is you denying that Daisies is the first single (when Katy literally said Daisies is the first single) just because she included NRO (released more than a year ago) on the album to inflate streams, because if it depended on Daisies and Smile for that, the fate of this album would be even worse.
Stop living in a bubble and face reality. It's ridiculous to try to affirm at all costs something that isn't true. Embarrassing.
Posted by: Andrew. 20th July 2020, 08:26 PM
QUOTE(Adelita @ Jul 20 2020, 09:22 PM)
The only shameful thing here is you denying that Daisies is the first single (when Katy literally said Daisies is the first single) just because she included NRO (released more than a year ago) on the album to inflate streams, because if it depended on Daisies and Smile for that, the fate of this album would be even worse.
Stop living in a bubble and face reality. It's ridiculous to try to affirm at all costs something that isn't true. Embarrassing.
The lack of self-awareness jumped out.
Posted by: George.keh 20th July 2020, 08:38 PM
You can’t deny that Never Really Over was the first single because it was A) a single and B) on the album? What’s not clicking
Posted by: JosephStyles 20th July 2020, 08:40 PM
Katy can say Daisies is single 1 all she wants, but she's wrong...
Posted by: HausofGhibli 20th July 2020, 08:56 PM
I think it's an attempt to make it seem like the era was getting a fresh start by calling it the first single ~ almost restarting the era to build up public interest again. I can't see how this could be demoted to a promo single, just because of that one tweet by her?
She announced 'Smile' as a single too just before it dropped, and it clearly is because of the radio push, but many are saying it's a promo one (because of its underperformance?), so who knows what is what with her songs right now It's turned into a very messy era which is so unlike her when you look back on the days of Teenage Dream and even Prism when everything was handled expertly. I just hope the rest of the album follows the quality of this SUBLIME song.
Posted by: JosephStyles 20th July 2020, 09:03 PM
It was because of the messiness this era that made Smile's single status questionable but it became undeniable when Radio 2 playlisted it! It's been a messy campaign for sure, but I think it's pretty clear at this point that the singles are Never Really Over -> Small Talk (now we know this is still part of the album in some capacity) -> Daisies -> Smile.
Posted by: blacksquare 20th July 2020, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(Adelita @ Jul 20 2020, 09:22 PM)
The only shameful thing here is you denying that Daisies is the first single (when Katy literally said Daisies is the first single) just because she included NRO (released more than a year ago) on the album to inflate streams, because if it depended on Daisies and Smile for that, the fate of this album would be even worse.
Stop living in a bubble and face reality. It's ridiculous to try to affirm at all costs something that isn't true. Embarrassing.
I would agree if she had just thrown the song on at the end of the album as a bonus track — but it's track one. It's the first single. Everyone — but you — knows it's the first single. Why does it even matter?
The irony is that I'm actually a Gaga fan — but this delusion and strange obsession with tearing Katy Perry down is too hard to ignore.
Posted by: ḇlackout 31st July 2020, 10:46 PM
This is probably my favourite single of hers... But I question placing it as track #1 on the album...
Also Never Really Over performed well on streaming and well she’s going to need it for the album to go at least Gold in the US.
Posted by: Jαsє 31st July 2020, 10:57 PM
I listened to this for the first time in a while earlier and GOD it still sounds SO good I miss this Katy.
Posted by: RobBot 31st July 2020, 11:31 PM
It was only a year ago, she can't be that far gone!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 1st August 2020, 09:44 AM
It almost feels like a fluke compared to everything that's since followed it.
Posted by: LJ JORD 7 1st August 2020, 10:06 AM
I think this is gonna stand out on the album like I really think the rest of the album will be more like Daisies / Smile the song than this.
Posted by: Brightest Blue 1st August 2020, 07:54 PM
Can someone block Adele from posting
Posted by: Adelita 2nd August 2020, 10:29 AM
QUOTE(Brightest Blue @ Aug 1 2020, 04:54 PM)
Can someone block Adele from posting
Keep living in a bubble of lies then.
Posted by: Adelita 2nd August 2020, 10:31 AM
They deleted my comments, as usual. It seems that telling the truth is a crime here...
Posted by: Cameron 2nd August 2020, 12:36 PM
I think the problem is that you have shown a vendetta against Katy in the Chart Forum which has been flagged as trolling and unnecessary hate speech. It is evident that you are a 'Little Monster' who still has this whole 'Katy VS Gaga' obsession.
Please don't visit forums just to spread hate, it really puts a dampener on the community.
Posted by: Adelita 3rd August 2020, 07:22 AM
QUOTE(Cameron @ Aug 2 2020, 09:36 AM)
I think the problem is that you have shown a vendetta against Katy in the Chart Forum which has been flagged as trolling and unnecessary hate speech. It is evident that you are a 'Little Monster' who still has this whole 'Katy VS Gaga' obsession.
Please don't visit forums just to spread hate, it really puts a dampener on the community.
I'm just telling the truth, stop lying.
This will never change, no matter how hard the fans try, it's literally Katy and her label's word against some alienated fans.
Posted by: Klaus 3rd August 2020, 07:32 AM
Artpop was a buzz album
Posted by: Cameron 3rd August 2020, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(Adelita @ Aug 3 2020, 08:22 AM)
I'm just telling the truth, stop lying.
Oh, so you're not a Little Monster who is obsessed with Katy VS Gaga? My mistake, you must be a Rihanna stan!
I didn't mention the Daisies thing btw...
Posted by: George.keh 3rd August 2020, 04:58 PM
Why was the Daisies thing brought up wasn’t that a discussion like WEEKS ago
Posted by: RobBot 5th August 2020, 10:49 AM
Just deleted some very unnecessarily nasty comments from here. I will delete each and every message with a tone like that. If I can’t get you banned from posting in this forum then I will make sure you are invisible, unless you wish to change your disgusting attitude.
I miss this Katy.
