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danG
post 12th June 2016, 09:37 AM
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Another shooting happened in Orlando just recently mellow.gif

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/36510272

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Florida Pulse gay club attacked in Orlando - multiple injuries
9 minutes ago

Eyewitness Anthony Torres fled the scene and filmed as he watched people shooting "back and forth"

There are multiple injuries after an attacker opened fire inside a gay nightclub in the Florida city of Orlando, police say.

The attacker is reported to still be inside the Pulse Club and to have taken hostages.

A bomb squad and hazardous material team are at the scene, the Associated Press reports. Orlando Police say they carried out a controlled explosion.

Some reports say at least 20 shots were heard inside the club.

One witness told local TV reporter Stewart Moore that his friend was still locked inside the building with a gunshot wound.

Mr Moore, in an earlier tweet, said a source told him that the attacker was suspected to have a bomb.

Video footage being shared on social media showed dozens of emergency vehicles at the scene and people being treated on the pavements.

Pulse Facebook: Everyone get out of pulse and keep running
The club posted this message as reports of a shooting were emerging

More than 100 people were reported to have been enjoying a Latin-themed night in the club, which is situated near Orange and Kaley avenue.

Ricardo Negron Almodovar told BBC News that the shooter opened fire at around 02:00 local time (06:00 GMT), as the club night was coming to a close.

"We heard rapid fire go off. In the room I was in, people went down to the floor. I wasn't able to see the shooter or people get hurt.
"At some point, there was a brief pause, and a group of us got up and went to the exit that leads to the patio area outside. We found an exit and after that... I just ran."

Another man, Anthony Torres, said he heard people screaming that others in the nightclub were dead.

The incident comes as Orlando is still reeling from the fatal shooting on Friday night of 22-year-old singer Christina Grimmie following a concert in the city.

She had been signing autographs when she was shot by 26-year-old Kevin James Loibl, who then killed himself. It is not clear what Loibl's motive was.


they really need to do something about gun control laws in Orlando (and the rest of USA)
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post 12th June 2016, 09:46 AM
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Oh shit!! This is seriously f***ed up.
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post 12th June 2016, 09:46 AM
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Oh god sad.gif

Edit: Maybe someone split this thread? Since its completely jnrelated from the cristina shooting
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post 12th June 2016, 09:51 AM
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7 have died so far sad.gif And they still won't bat an eyelid towards the gun laws. Like everyone's said if the elementary school shooting didn't change anything then nor will Christina's death or these sadly sad.gif

And yeah I agree split the thread, this is also a big thing in itself like Christina's death was a big thing in itself compared to the Celebrity RIP thread, so in the same way this shouldn't be contained in another thread imo.
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post 12th June 2016, 11:30 AM
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Split topics up.
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post 12th June 2016, 11:32 AM
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This was such sad news to wake up to sad.gif my heart goes out to all of the victims of the attack. Just terrifying
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post 12th June 2016, 11:37 AM
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Orlando Police: Approximately 20 dead within nightclub; law enforcement has not yet confirmed suspect identity.
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post 12th June 2016, 11:52 AM
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Given that American's cannot spell simple words like Colour correctly, should they really be trusted with firearms??

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All joking aside, the Gun Control debate in America is such an utter shitshow. Come on guys, when a mentally unstable person can walk into a school and kill a bunch of children the problem isn't that there is too few guns, it's that there are too many and there is too little control over who they go to.

Personally I think America's problem has a lot to do with it's gun culture. Regulation won't make a change unless there is a change in the countries attitude towards guns.
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post 12th June 2016, 11:54 AM
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Surely now, there has to be something done with gun control.

Looks like this may have been a terror-related attack.

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post 12th June 2016, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Mack @ Jun 12 2016, 12:54 PM) *
Surely now, there has to be something done with gun control.

Looks like this may have been a terror-related attack.

Watch how fast the T word is dropped when the attacker turns out to be a white christian.
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post 12th June 2016, 12:26 PM
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Another appalling tragedy! sad.gif

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Watch how fast the T word is dropped when the attacker turns out to be a white christian.


Yes, as with Anders Breivik where initial reports focussed on it being the work of Islamic militants.

To be honest gun control won't ever be completely changed in America for a few generations yet, but we will continue to see a slow gradual change in societies views over the next few decades. Even Bernie Sanders is not fully supportive of much stronger gun laws, so it will take a LONG time for it to become mainstream, and yes- inevitably and sadly with the loss of many more innocent lives.
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post 12th June 2016, 12:28 PM
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Said it in the previous thread, but until something that kills 1000s I cannot see a change to gun control. You would need a Republican president who is anti-guns and I cannot see that happening, as you lose a lot of your core support straight away with that stance. It's really sad to see.
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post 12th June 2016, 12:32 PM
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Even tiny gun change reform gets completely shut down, Obama tried earlier this year. It will take something completely drastic to make it change, which is horrifying sad.gif
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post 12th June 2016, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Jun 12 2016, 01:26 PM) *
Another appalling tragedy! sad.gif
Yes, as with Anders Breivik where initial reports focussed on it being the work of Islamic militants.


Anders Brevik wasn't a Christian.
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post 12th June 2016, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Jun 12 2016, 01:26 PM) *
Yes, as with Anders Breivik where initial reports focussed on it being the work of Islamic militants.

Indeed! I was watching Fox News as that unfolded (I was at a friends in the southern US at the time) and it was staggering just how quickly they went there. Honestly, a F1 car accelerates slower than Fox made that connection. They dropped the word terrorist even faster when he turned out to be a right-wing, white, nut bag.
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post 12th June 2016, 12:44 PM
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It's sad that it's come to this, but my immediate reaction was 'Oh, AGAIN'. Another easily preventable, senseless tragedy caused by arrogance and stupidity from the majority of the US people and politicians.
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post 12th June 2016, 12:45 PM
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This is so sad and terrifying two shootings in Orlando within a couple of days sad.gif
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post 12th June 2016, 12:47 PM
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It's not even about 'culture change'. The majority of Americans are against assault weapons being available for sale (let alone without background checks), as is the President, as likely is the next President. The main problem is that the NRA has a solid majority of Senators and Congressmen bought up or with viable rivals they're willing to fund to the hilt. Until that changes, nothing will.
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post 12th June 2016, 12:53 PM
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Sadly, I think it'll probably take the shooting of a national treasure for any conversations on US gun law to progress. And even then, instances like John Lennon and Selena haven't really done anything.

Not a good week for Gay Pride at all.
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post 12th June 2016, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Jun 12 2016, 01:34 PM) *
Anders Brevik wasn't a Christian.


Did I say that he was?
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