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Nothing will come close to the excellence of Emmerdale tonight. The alternative characters, the little details, pictures blanked out, but especially the fantastic John Middleton giving the performance of a lifetime. This wasn't just great acting in a soap - just great acting. Period!
It was really superb, an outstanding episode which deserves to sweep up every award it's eligible for. John Middleton shone as always and the addition of the alternative characters was a great twist, it clicked with me not long before the reveal that the lady who took care of him had a striking resemblance to Laurel!
That has to win the single episode soap award, and John Middleton should easily win best actor. It was astoundingly done, all the small touches like the alternative versions of characters and the way that we saw their reflections so it showed that they were familiar people to Ashley who he was seeing differently.
It was amazingly well done I really want the guy who plays Ashley to win best actor and them to win best single episode amazing all round!
I'm not usually an Emmerdale watcher(I've dipped in and out) but I had heard about this episode so watched it and it was so heartbreaking I was in bits, My Nanna is currently going through the stages of dementia and this insight into what she is going through really hit it home, its not just heartbreaking and distressing for us the family but also for her, we know she like Ashley showed is going back to things from the past that she recalls, she is going way back bout 60 years and suffering remembering miscarriages she had, my mum who is the main carer and has always been there with my nanna for years and years is suffering as being the one who is closest getting the abuse really, it kills me to see it but you really just have to be strong, this storyline and episode is really good and glad it is showing it in the way it is but that episode really blew my mind and was so brave of them to do it the way they did but was genius.
I mean, I don't think I've ever seen anything like that done ever in any tv show or film? It was absolutely incredible and it deserves every single award going.
I echo the sentiment that Tuesday's episode should be up for some awards! It was innovative and artsy but not at all pretentious; it really put you in Ashley's perspective and allowed you to gain some sort of understanding of dementia. It's quite challenging to do that in a "show, not tell" fashion and in a natural way, but it worked perfectly. The scenes with Ashley and 'Laurel' were highly emotional - even though it wasn't actual Laurel we were seeing, it had the same impact as if it was. There was a brief snippet of happiness at the end when Ashley recognised Laurel and the face we knew returned, until the inevitable happened and Ashley forgets and says "who's Laurel?". The look on her face said it all. It would be a rinse and repeat of this, getting progressively worse, until the end, and Laurel seemed to acknowledge the fact that the person she saw in front of her was no longer the Ashley she knew. Utterly heartbreaking stuff and I send huge praise to John Middleton and Charlotte Bellamy.
It feels like producer Iain MacLeod has taken the best elements of Hollyoaks and injected them into Emmerdale - the production and the perspective of that episode felt very much like a Hollyoaks idea, which is one of the few things I can praise that soap for at the moment.
Its lasted for nearly 10 years but the first Buzzjack thread for all things Emmerdale has reached the maximum 1,000 posts so its time to start anew with a second thread. It means the thread is finally created by a member that actually exists!
Lets see if we can get to those 1,000 posts quicker this time round and what better way to start with one of the most critically acclaimed soap episodes!
I intend to start regularly watching Emmerdale again so, in turn, I hope to start coming to this thread more often! There's clearly a community of die-hard Emmerdale fans and casual fans alike, so it'll be great to see that thrive!
Moira and Pete. For the love of GOD.
"Oh because of the wishbone!" Loved that little reference to last Christmas!
I'm glad they didn't go down the extremely unrealistic route of Lisa falling back into Zak's arms just because he's finished with Joanie.
Seeing tiny glimpses of the old Ashley tonight was also absolutely lovely.
I liked that too. I do like Zak and his relationship with Lisa was one of the most natural and genuine in soap, but you cannot condone his actions and Lisa was right to put him in his place. It would be completely preposterous for Lisa to take him back and, even if he didn't intend it to appear this way, it was selfish of Zak to just assume she would do and be able to put aside all the bad feeling he essentially put on her.
I'm getting tired of Kerry's self-destructive ways. It doesn't seem like it's even leading to anything..
I could honestly just watch a 30 minute episode of Jimmy and Nicola arguing. They're hilarious
I wonder if it'll be just me talking to myself in this thread
I'm not sure where they're going with the whole Finn/Kasim thing
We all knew Lisa and Zak would end up back together and I'm still pissed Kate Oates split them up in the first place. They should have remained the Roy/Hayley + Mick/Linda of Soapland without the tacky affair nonsense.
I couldn't agree more about Zak and Lisa. I feel like I keep slagging off Kate Oates on here nowadays but it really does sum her up perfectly. Nothing is sacred, no golden couple, she'll just come in and make them have an affair because she has some sort of fetish for sensationalised affairs. It feels like Iain MacLeod is patching up the huge mistakes she made!
Zak and Lisa should have never been split up, i would have understood if Zak simply kissed Joanie and realised his mistake but anything beyond that was stupid. I am sure Zak and Lisa will now get back together. Zak and Joanie never ever worked.
In general i thought Kate Oates did a good job on Emmerdale but Iain MacLeod is also doing a great job, he is doing previous stories justice but also fixing some of Kates mistakes, ie Zak and Lisa splitting and also Cain and Charity affair, i like how he has brought this almost full circle in getting the couples closer to each other. The work on the Ashley storyline is immense, both producers deserve credit here and the acting and scripts are superb for this storyline. I think this is been one of the best handled storylines in soap (any soap) for a very very long time and i really hope Ashley dies naturally as anything else would be an injustice to the fantastic work so far.
Anybody watching?
It's good at the minute. Aaron's prison ordeal is absolutely harrowing to watch but Danny, as always, is playing it to perfection.
I'm struggling to find an episode where Charity appears when she doesn't make me piss myself laughing
The Aaron storyline is being handled incredibly well, tough viewing but all involved are doing a top notch job.
Charity is EVERYTHING, her and Chas make the most fantastic double act.
I seriously just can't with the mess that is Rob cheating on Aaron thing ALREADY. Yes, we get he's hurt and mad with the whole Aaron using drugs thing but I seriously thought we were past the whole affair bullshit. The amount of time they've spent developing Robert's character over the past few months, only for him to be all "I'm gonna f*** Rebecca because Aaron hurt my feelings!!!111" is absolutely ludacris and I'm glad there's been a slight uproar over it. I read an article over on DS that one of Emmerdale's storyliners has quit Twitter because of the backlash they were receiving.
I think it's a shame the storyliner felt he had to quit Twitter. Agree or not, he was answering fans' comments and put his explanation across well.
Robert cheating was a huge mistake by the storyliners. They really built the couple up and for him to cheat so much just weakens everything that has happened prior to this.
They had enough to derail them with Aaron going to jail and turning to drugs. Keeping the storyline to this would create problems and show them working through it, the cheating is just so lazy when they had so much else to work on. That aside Emmerdale is still by far the best soap at the moment, there is plenty going on and it has a good dynamic. The Ashley storyline i have to say has been incredibly well done. They have to win a few awards for this at the next Soap Awards.
Tonight's episode was fantastic. The Ashley storyline continues to be top notch, and the Carly/Marlon/April and Faith/Chas scenes were really great too. Emmerdale is definitely my favourite soap right now, the most consistent one too!
Not really enjoying this atm. The Ashley/Laurel storyline is of course incredibly portrayed (next week will be heartbreaking </3) but nothing else is really grabbing me and I can't stand Robert or Aaron so that doesn't help (although some things about them are nice *.*)
Im really enjoying Emmerdale and have been for some time now. I like most of the storylines going on at the moment but not sure about Cain and Harriot. I fully agree about the Ashley storyline it is been handled and portrayed flawlessly. Carly i did like for a while but i find any one that generally hooks up with Marlon ends up been boring or annoying and thats when i went off her, it was the same with Laurel, i did not like her when with Marlon but got to love her again when with Ashely.
I really like the Pearse and Rhona storyline aswell.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who can't stand Robron
As a couple I mean, I love Aaron as a character.
I dont love love or hate Robron, whats good is i do think they work together but they are also great characters as individuals.
I really, really hope Charlotte Bellamy and John Middleton win something at the Soap Awards. They've both been absolutely phenomenal throughout this dementia storyline.
They deserve best on screen partnership.
John especially deserves to win best actor and Charlotte best actress.
The actual storyline just has to win best storyline.
Last nights episodes, you can just feel the heartbreak coming in the episodes next week.
I have every confidence that they will have many a person in tears with the episodes, i have shed a tear or two on this storyline already.
The Faith storyline is also interesting, i thought her scenes were Moira were also very moving.
Apparently Lawrence and Emma are leaving, there's been a report Lachlan murders them both and possibly others, it's been described as a "bloodbath" in the run up to Christmas
If true they will get great exits.
Wow Apparently John Bowe (Lawrence) isn't happy about it at all!
No spoilers, this is a totally random prediction regarding Ashley's death - but I think he'll recognize Laurel one last time before slipping away
It would be wonderful if your prediction is correct Jase as it would be lovely for Laurel.
Marlon and Gabby saying goodbye to Ashley..
I am seriously not ready for tomorrow's episode. It could even top Hayley's (Corrie) death for me in terms of emotional impact.
A beautiful exit for Ashley, incredibly moving and I definitely shed a few tears. Ashley's one of the best characters they've had and he'll be sorely missed
"Laurel."
Brb, I'll be back when I can function properly.
Was a lovely exit for Ashley him remembering Laurel was perfect
I have championed this storyline, the script writing and performances the whole way through but I was very disappointed with the final scenes. The Marlon “nonsense” was awful. I am unsure if the having the whole “friends” around worked as I felt it should have been a family moment and I was disappointed neither Sandy or his kids or Laurel were actually with him when he died. I found it baffling about Laurel and the pillow as I was nearly screaming at the TV saying “don’t leave him to die on his own”.
While it was a beautiful moment when he remembered Laurels name I feel if Laurel, Sandy, and his children were at his bedside when he died it would have been far more of a touching end.
The actors delivered the scenes they had very well but sadly I think the scriptwriters slightly got his final scenes wrong which is a massive shame as outside of this the storyline was excellent.
I agree pippa, glad I'm not the only one! The fact he said Laurel and remembered her was still heartbreaking but I think it should have just been the family, it was a bit eh that the whole village was there and he slipped off when Laurel went to get a pillow. I sort of felt "is that it?" which I know sounds awful but that's how I can best describe how I felt
Aaron os the worst character in soap right now.
The girl who played Carli in The Inbetweeners is worse
Danny who plays Aaron is a good actor but i must say the repetitive crying scenes he does have been used to often, he does this exactly the same each time.
I too, am happy that others feel the same, Lieowstic. I hated having to say those comments as i have been in awe of this storyline, but the final scenes gave me a slight reminder of why until recently i was never a huge fan of the show in the way i was of other soaps. At the moment it is the best soap by far but they need to slightly improve on the conclusions to storylines. That said, i will be so disappointed if this storyline isnt the runaway winner at the Soap Awards this year.
How hot is Ross tho
I didnt like Ashleys final scenes either as i think it took away from what was actually happening. Like others have said i think it should have just been the family with him as the scenes would have been more hard hitting, there was far too many unnecessary distractions.
It's not often a TV show will bring me to tears but Emmerdale has managed it twice in a week :') that dream sequence with Laurel was a fantastic touch and perfectly executed, incredibly emotional they deserve all the awards they can get for this storyline.
Now Ashley is out of the way Laurel should get her some Ross D.
I would hope they don't put Laurel with Marlon again as that simply did not work. I have a suspicion Laurels alcohol addiction will come back in the storylines now.
Ashley's death moved me to tears...his funeral was even WORSE. My f***ing GOD.
Charlotte Bellamy and John Middleton have of course been longlisted at the soap awards, along with Danny Miller and Matthew Wolfenden for Best Actor and Zoe Henry and Natalie J Robb for Best Actress. Of course Charlotte should have this in the bag but I think it might be Kym Marsh from Corrie or Lacey Turner from EE. Surely there is no way John can lose best actor though!
LMAAOOOOO Moira headbutting Charity ended me
The last few episodes have been painful. Megan and Jai bickering over their kid which we've seen a million times before, cownapping...and the chav guys with hideous accents who are about as intimidating as a pair of bananas running around the villiage terrorizing everybody?
The one highlight? Charity's impersonation of Moira
I die inside a little every time whenever Laila/Pete/Priya are on screen.
Outside of them, Emmerdale is still on top form atm! Loving the mystery surrounding Chrissie's past and I can't wait for Laurel to finally find out what happened with Emma and Ashley!
LOVED Tuesdays episode! Emma manipulating Arthur was disturbing to watch but she's such a good villain. I also loved seeing another side to Charity.
pete would get it
his personality tho..
Give me Ross instead
why not both
Charity taking the piss whenever she sees Harriet and Cain together
f***
Ross half naked and actual naked was exactly why Emmerdale is best soap.
EXCUSE ME? I'm behind with a lot of shows so I'll binge this weeks Emmerdale at the weekend but trust me to miss THAT.
https://twitter.com/MikeParrActor/status/887015734035062785
He seems like such a laugh. He's on my wish list for I'm a Celeb/CBB tbh.
he's adorable
Started watching Aaron's parts and omg he's so hot
CHARITY SINGING LITTLE MIX I f***ing HOWL whenever she's on screen. She's absolutely hilarious.
The Layla/Pete/Priya crap remains the worst thing in soap right now. Layla finding out and secretly dishing out revenge is very Eva in Corrie isn't it?
Jason's going to turn out to be gay isn't he?
I can forgive Pete/Leyla/Priya for the fact it gave us Pete in a towel *.*
i detest aaron
Moira is so pregnant.
Emma's killer is getting revealed within the next 3 weeks - any predictions?
I'm still thinking Harriet.
Killer reveal will be Thursday 14th December
This is one where I actually feel it could be pretty much anyone in the frame which is refreshing, I hate when they build it up as a massive whodunnit you can narrow it down to one or two and it ends up being obvious (like say the Gloved Hand Killer in Hollyoaks).
Watch it be Lydia
So over on DS its been revealed who murdered Emma. Somebody called Darren who is apparently very reliable has confirmed that..
Moira pushed her.
Oh that's about the most disappointing outcome for me ffs
Ffs
Bloody good episodes, I actually think Natalie J Robb is the best actress the show has, it's just :/ tat Moira is a murderer.
Emma Barton - was a twisted bitch to the very end.
Omg rlly
The Christmas Day episode is brutally boring,they've def lost their way in this one.
They could have done that as like an extra episode on CHristmas Eve but it was really disappointing as the actual Christmas episode, very odd. Emmerdale usually does quite well with experimental or unusual stuff (like the flashback episodes when Robert got shot and we found out who killed Emma, as well as the one where they briefly recast actors and made us feel how Ashley felt in his dementia) but that was just... odd.
KNEW Tom was going to turn out to be Joseph Tate!
Bye bye Lawrence and Chrissy!
Startred watching Emmerdale more reguarly now. Poor Brenda. She is going to do something really silly now. Gone right off Laurel this past while back.
Plus why is she moaning that it's too cold outside in the snow for baby Dotty,yet the baby has no hat on!
Brenda's a pain in the arse. Laurel's amazing.
More violence on Emmerdale...
Not sure if that's a good thing.
It's a bit silly. Cain dressed/acting like Dexter a couple of weeks back was absolutely bloody ridiculous
i find emmerdale a bit on the boil at the moment...there’s too much going on and it’s getting a bit ridiculous with the amount of storylines and sub-storylines
the kidnap for 100 grand last night is a good example of that
It's extremely easy to get money in soapland! Didn't Robert burn £100k to prove his love for Aaron a while back?
When will Mick and Linda?
I know it's not gonna be totally realistic but it is kinda ridiculous when in any soap hostage situation they can clobber together thousands and thousands of pounds like nothing, yet in normal situations mere days before for the sake of a storyline they're penniless.
Charity and Vanessa are THE best couple in soap rn.
Emma Atkins is one of the most talented actresses in soapland. She can go from having me in absolute stitches to having me almost bawling in tonight's episode.
Just thrown her a vote for the Soap Awards. Hopefully she'll make the shortlist!
It's says alot that I stan the lesbians but f***ing detest the one gay couple.
Vanity is the best thing to happen to the soap in a long time
emmerdale has hit a bit of a lull for me at the moment...I have a strong feeling Debbie isn't going to be punished for her role in the acid attack (which is probably one of the worst handled storylines ever) which after her getting away with Gennie would be ridiculous :')
Brenda tonight *.*
This focus on Dan/Daz is so tiresome
Return confirmed for Hannah Barton, who has transitioned in her time away from the village and is now Matty, so Emmerdale have cast their first transgender regular with Ash Palmisciano taking over the role!
Nice twist and a good explanation for keeping away from home!
This Matty storyline is brilliant, it has brought out the best in Moira and Faith is absolutely iconic as always.
I totally agree, the storyline is working wonderfully so far.
Nooooooo not Rebecca her and Ross (and maybe Matty) were the only things even watchable tonight.
Another flashback episode, with Graham 😂
Really looking forward to the flashbacks to Graham's past. Andrew Scarborough is such a good actor and I feel we're only scratching the surface with what's to come from him.
The bull storyline has been ridiculous:lol: This show is in a f***ing state.
Why do I get shades of the Phelan storyline with Lachlan?
It has all the indications that it will.
That said, i do think Rebecca will survive and that is how he will be found out.
I look forward to Dianne and Pollard having to apologise to poor Doug, as they have treated him terribly since Gerry died.
Thomas Atkinson (guy who plays Lachlan) has said his storyline will run until the autumn so I'm intrigued to see what happens with Rebecca because she's obviously not going to be held captive for months
Thomas Atkinson is incredible, you totally beielve Lachlan is a psychopath.
This storyline with Amelia is quite bad that it’s actually exhausting.
What a rip off of Andy/Phelan:’)
Was still brilliant TV though, I was on the edge of my seat!! I feel quite differently about Lachlan than I did with Phelan - I feel like Lachlan is more mentally unhinged than just a cold-blooded killer. I guess it was the only way out for Rebecca if this is to go on until October.
rebecca 😭
I'm hoping that rebecca white survives
I've been avoiding this week's episodes (too triggering for me to watch), relying purely on spoiler artickles.
I just hope she has a chance
and zack dingle is my favorite character
in the last bit I read he was outside the shack
come on uncle zack
you can do it
Lachlan he is great and Thomas is a great actor. hes up there with Cameron for me regarding villains in Emmerdale.
Laurel should stay single for a while I think.
Poor Matty the sad thing is that’s probably how a lot of people would act. I’m really enjoying this storyline, I was worried they’d sensationalise it like Hollyoaks did with Sally being John Paul’s father (although they do a good job with her now) but it’s been done incredibly!
I agree, they've been working wonders with the Matty storyline. I liked what Entertainment Daily said about it recently (mostly in an http://www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk/soaps/emmerdale/opinion-soaps-need-more-characters-like-emmerdales-ryan-stocks/ but Matty got a notable mention too) - whilst the fact he's transgender is common knowledge and the basis of many of his storylines, it's not his *only* attribute. Really rooting for him and Victoria to get together
Sam and Lydia are the couple I never knew I needed in my life
I was really enjoying Charity and Ryan getting to know each other and bond, but I feel like they’re stretching out as far as they can until the trial and it’s really repetitive now, we’ve been seeing veriations of the same scene between them for months now
I didn’t realise Patrick Mower who plays Rodney Blackstock was nearly 80! Well I suppose he must be.
REBECCA 👏👏👏
I am convinced Graham is working with Kim Tate and its her that he is talking to on the phone.
Emmerdale have hinted a legendary character is returning in November so my money is my theory.
Yeah there's a lot of speculation that Kim's coming back. PLEASE BE TRUE.
https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1041705667751489536
Such a creepy teaser!
Emmerdale have very few legendary characters so i am convinced its Kim Tate.
So Lachlan has finally left, do you think he'll return a la Cameron back in 2013?
I think its likely he will be back for a short stint by the end of the year.
This Tara woman is a real ray of sunshine Legit getting Sarah Harding in Corrie teas from her "acting"
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a866944/emmerdale-itv-spoils-claire-king-return-return-kim-tate/
Lol, oops.
Glad it's true mind, hype *.*
https://twitter.com/emmerdale/status/1044309151390846978
I haven’t watched for a few weeks but Kim f***ing Tate *.*
Oh. She's only back for a bloody week
I didn't expect a full-time return but I did expect longer than a week. That said, I think that works best. It allows her return to be focused and avoids spoiling the legacy of the character.
I think one of her interviews suggests its one week for now!
Kim Tate has the POWER to make me a full-time Emmerdale fan (for a week.) An ICONIC character up there with Janine Butcher as one of the ultimate soap bitches of all time.
http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/news/a867182/former-emmerdale-star-kelvin-fletcher-body-transformation/
Has he not looked like that for the past 15 odd years? These "you won't believe what x looks like now!!" articles always over exaggerate but this one is just stupid.
I really can't praise Lucy Pargeter and Dominic Brunt enough after tonight's episode, as well as everyone involved behind the scenes. What a beautiful episode I was welling up when Paddy was refusing to accept that Gracie was gone. One of my favourite soap episodes in a while.
Good christ, Robron are SUCH a dull couple, I feel like the only one who couldn't give less of a shit
Lukewarm start to kims return but I'm sure it will improve by the episode.
Camp as anything and OTT but you couldn't have it any other way with Kim Tate, loved it! *.*
I don’t believe Graham and Kim being a couple.
Was I, the only one who felt deflated after watching last night's episode?
It was deflating although i would believe Kim will be making her full mark in tonight and tomorrow nights episodes.
Last night's episode that was so much better. Welcome back Kim.
I'm finding it very one dimensional, Kim was obviously known as a villain and iconic soap bitch but it's bordering on panto villain... It was great for the first episode or so but I'm just wondering what was even the point, unless she actually came back and took Home Farm and had a proper huge storyline.
Very disappointed by tonight's two parter. Expected more.
Kim was always witty and had clever dialogue but I think the writers got a bit too carried away. Like someone on Walford Web said, it was more like Sadie King, which worked for her but not for Kim.
It's worth watching the episode of Frank Tate's death and Kim's 1999 exit. You see can see Kim is capable of evil and there's camp moments, but it's done in a nuanced way and the dialogue isn't delivered in a way that makes it seem she's on a stage in a pantomime. I think the Kim vs. Charity stuff was fine but I don't think it was necessary to have Kim making comments to everyone else. The original Kim wouldn't have been that petty to people she didn't know, I don't think, and it's worth remembering Kim did fit into the everyday village life. Don't think you could see this Kim sitting down in the cafe or having a drink in the pub.
I don't think the character is ruined or anything though. If Kim does return for another stint next year that is more lengthy, they just need to tone it down a bit and not have every Kim scene as these intense camp moments.
I think the main distraction was that it felt like Claire King's Corrie character Erica playing Kim Tate. The writing during 'dramatic' moments under Stuart Blackburn's Corrie felt very showy and panto so hearing Claire deliver a camp line every time she spoke reminded me of that. Got to admit, they did get her look right. It felt like I was looking at Kim Tate and not Erica.
Kim's back full time next year after her stint in prison! *.*
I'm glad, I think/hope they can fully develop her better then. This week felt kind of pointless but as such an iconic character there is more to do with her, I thought they couldn't leave it like that! Tonight felt a bit more like the real Kim rather than the panto villain so hopefully they develop on that.
Haven't watched tonight’s but I'm glad Kim is coming back. The writers may have got a bit excited to write for Kim this week but I think it will be more nuanced next year if she is to fit into village life.
They SERIOUSLY need to axe Leyla She's the absolute worst. All they ever do with her is give her OTT guy drama and it's so f***ing dull and tiresome
I agree about leyla.
Rebecca off to take Robron to court, QUEEN, scalp the precious golden couple.
I completely missed this but a couple of days ago it was announced that Lisa Riley is reprising her role as Mandy Dingle!
I just heard thus today, I expected a much bigger fan fare about it.
Only a short stint
She still gets a fair bit of work so I'm not too surprised it's just a short stint. Can't work out whether the promo pic is just a photoshop job - to me it looks like Lisa Riley as Lisa Riley rather than Lisa Riley as Mandy Dingle if that makes sense.
Shame she's not back permanently but I didn't expect her back at all, she's fairly busy still.
Also, I'm really intrigued by this Maya/Jacob storyline! It's a bit creepy and uncomfortable but that means it's doing things right!
Recast for Amy Wyatt confirmed. I liked Chelsea Halfpenny in the role and there were rumours of her coming back following her Casualty exit, but Natalie Ann Jamieson, who is taking over the role, does look very similar to her so they've at least got that right.
Classic Emmerdale is now being shown on ITV3 at 01:45pm and 02:15pm!
Debbie dingle is such a hypocrite in this storyline with Cain but she annoys me alot overall as she is very overused.
Exit confirmed for Lisa Dingle. In tonight's episode it was revealed that the character has been diagnosed with a terminal heart condition.
Pretty big news, it's like an end of an era. Emmerdale don't quite have the cultural impacting characters like Eastenders and Corrie do but, for a lot of fans, this character has been a constant player on the show and will be widely recognised and associated with Emmerdale.
Huge news, couldn't believe my ears tonight think it'll be must-watch TV when the time comes though.
Yeah that's gonna be absolutely heartbreaking to watch
I’m devastated of the news of the upcoming exit. Especially as the character is set to die as well .
Im assuming it was their decision to leave however I can’t see the producers axing the character.
Was the character axed or did the person in question decide to leave?
She chose to leave
I am more settled that it was the persons decision to leave unlike the recent departure in Neighbours.
Really enjoying kim tates scenes.
They're making her a bit TOO pantomime imo
I have always felt Danny Miller has a huge element of arrogance in him and this would support it.
https://www.thesun.ie/tvandshowbiz/tv/3991667/emmerdales-danny-miller-goes-on-foul-mouthed-rant-about-fans-british-soap-awards-snub-and-says-his-career-is-over/
f***s sake why is he acting like the soap awards are the Oscars
It shows nothing but arrogance and there are many make soap actors just as good as him and some better than him too.
The flashback week is gonna be LIT
I don't think she'll be dead now, it would be too obvious that the first episode immediately after the night out is them thinking she's dead. I think she'll turn up and we'll have so much more drama and a resolution in the flashback episodes. I kind of thought they were gonna kill her from the trailer too but that would be far too Hollyoaks
Jamie Tate is STUNNING
Finally a bit more depth to Kim too, she was very pantomime villain for the first bit of her return but this plus her friendship with Rhona has been great!
I can't get over Emmerdale firing an actress for racist tweets that she has sincerely apologised for whilst hiring someone who was jailed for supplying date rape drugs...and they're actually playing the role of a rapist!
CHRIST Jamie Tate is stunning
And they BETTER not pair him up with Debbie Dingle
Imagine looking like that tho
Oh my goddddd
I’m hoping this coming weeks episodes isn’t the last we see of Maya.
I definitely don’t think she’s dead though.
I have a feeling Maya might end up returning pregnant in around autumn time with her exit being a jail type ending and the baby possibly being given to Aaron and Robert as part of their storyline.
I wouldn't have pegged Victoria as a highlight of the week before it aired but Isabelle Hodgins has been brilliant!
Victoria's rape has been done really well, and yeah Isobel really showed off her talent there. The 'big night out' has been really good tbh and got me hooked on this again!!
Of course though, according to the sun (who are normally spot on with the ITV soaps) Victoria will be pregnant and will give her baby to Aaron/Robert Another misogynistic twist to give the golden couple a baby
Can't abide Victoria but echoing whats been said about Isabelle - incredible performances last week!
Does Jessie ever actually go to work?
OK! Magazine cover confirms departure of a character.
I won’t say who in this thread but it’s on Twitter if anyone wants to know.
I've been expecting that departure for a while now.
It’s really annoying me how they keep calling Maya a paedophile. She abused a minor, she’s a disgusting woman but there’s no evidence she’s attracted to pre-pubescent children which is what a paedophile is.
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PRAISE THE F***ING LORD OMG
Big news! It's felt like Emmerdale's 'golden era' has been winding down this past year or so and this sounds like it could affect things further.
Interesting to see what they will come up with for the exit storyline.
No more Robron
Its a shame that Crybaby isn't going with him
I feel they’re gonna kill him off.
There’s no plausible way they’d split them up and there’s no chance that Aaron will leave for them to leave together.
But at the same time Roberts like a legacy character. It’ll be interesting to see what they do but they’ll have to split them
Up one way or other.
They may go the opposite direction and Aaron cheats.
Last nights episodes will go down as the worst I've ever seen. Wtf is going on with this show?
Freddie Jones, who played Sandy Thomas, passed away yesterday evening.
Sad news. His character was such a joy on the show. RIP.
Sad news, truly enjoyed his scenes in Emmerdale.
very sad news, an Emmerdale icon
He was such an eccentric. He'll be sadly missed.
The whole "Liam is a murderer" but actually he does murder mystery nights saga was absolutely embarrassing, the show has been lowkey terrible for a while now which is odd because it's nearly always been so consistent, I'd argue it's the worst soap atm :/
The standard has slipped extensively in the last few months on Emmerdale.
Jessie and her storylines with her sons do not work, and Jessie and Marlon have zero on screen chemistry.
I don't associate Jessie and Marlon as a couple when watching the show let alone husband and wife.
Diane is also going round in circles in terms of the same storyline of selling up and moving.
Kerry, Dan and Amy are further snore-fest storylines all on repeat.
Is the upcoming fire storyline likely to be
Gaynor Faye’s final scenes as Megan.
There’s a death being teased and I feel she could be in the factory with nobody knowing she’s there. A bit like Rana in CS.
Tracy is seen trapped in the trailer but if they were gonna kill her I don’t think they’d have shown that or announced her involvement in the story.
With Megan though there’s nothing to suggest she’s gonna be there which makes me feel she will be. Perhaps she thinks her and Jais daughter is in there or something like that?
They really should have taken the option to kill of a few characters as there is a few now who arent adding to the show.
jesus CHRIST those two episodes from Tuesday night were absolutely appalling
Bernice has turned into a joke lately hasn’t she.
I had a feeling Robert was going to attack Lee too.
Bernice is one of my most liked characters in the show but lately the writing for her is awful poor.
This is just background noise to me now. Going from things like Ashley's dementia, Lauren's alcohol problems, the Emma saga...to the factory crap, horrendous characters like Bear and the main upcoming storyline being Moira having an affair.
Sort it out, ITV
The exit is welcomed as the partnership never worked, there was Zero on screen chemistry.
Off screen death in the spoiler
Confirmed they’re killing Rachel off screen to make way for new storyline for Jai.
Also Emmerdale won best soap at the TV Choice Awards last night.
Apparently the actor who plays Ellis punched Jamie Lomas from HO at the event too.
Oops, good job Charley Webb isn't working at the minute. Might prove awkward considering her and Jamie are bother and sister
Who didn't fall out at the TV awards last night?
Surprised emmerdale win this time as it hasnt been great for a while now.
People have been fired from TV for less (well maybe not less but old mistakes - see Shila Iqbal in this, Chris Fountain in Corrie). Quite convenient that Jessie is leaving too, they can easily just write him out off-screen as going to follow Jessie if need be.
If he's screaming how he's gonna knife somebody then ITV need to fire his ass immediately. Wtf
Yep he's just been fired, his contract has been terminated "with immediate effect"!
The Mirror have said Emmerdale have sacked him.
Probably deserved but it’s a shame as it’ll probably hang over him for a long while and it means he’s probably unlikely to get acting work for a long while now.
It’s a shame CBB isn’t running as he could’ve been a candidate for the January season of that they love a controversial ex soap star.
Recast for the character likely?
Also with immediate effect does that mean he’s still gonna appear on screen with scenes he’s already filmed but his exit will just be an off screen one which he won’t get the chance to film.
Shame as I liked Ellis as a character plus Asan is hot.
But yeah given the nature of what happened, he had to be sacked
A recast would be the best option as his Father was introduced for a big storyline.
That said, before the arrival of his father they were an extremely boring family that i had no interest in.
The entire family have been nothing but dull ever since they arrived. Get rid of them all.
I agree they just dont work at all, I never liked Marlon either and all them tied together makes it even more dull.
Marlon made me laugh last night when he bopped Als nose
Don’t know how I’m feeling with Mandy coming back though especially as it’s full time this time around (well she said on a backstage video she’s been on set for 7 weeks).
I can’t see Lisa Riley committing more than just a year / 18 months though.
I don't mind Billy, I think he's the only one who has actually fit in and kind of works, he was in with the factory lot and he's got a budding relationship with Dawn, idk it's ujust if you compare him to Ellis who basically had about a week with Victoria, he's integrated so much better and will be fine without the family, whereas Ellis you'd barely notice if they did just write him out and not say, if this whole thing didn't happen Jessie was just terrible pretty much the whole time and being tied to Marlon didn't help that at all.
This kind of makes Al pointless now too without either his ex-wife or son but I guess he's got his businesses and connection to Kim.
I’m still a bit sad we had a Rachel death off screen.
I’m not a fan of characters being killed off screen even when it’s characters like Rachel. I still feel prison would’ve perhaps been a bit more realistic like maybe she was abusing a new boyfriend or something idk but killing off two members of the same family off screen!
Al seems an interesting character so far he’s definitely watchable and I like the smugness he’s bringing tbh. He’s more watchable at this point of his arc on the show than Jessie and Ellis. Him and Billy are the best from that family tbh I kind of wish now that he was actually Billy’s dad and not Ellis’s it might’ve worked better for the story too now given what’s happened off screen.
Mandy Dingle I hope is toned down though but she can only work with what’s given to her and at the minute that isn’t that much tbh. How old is her son supposed to be though?
Also I loved the Kim Tate scenes tonight and Graham’s scenes too.
That family is ridiculously cursed, Ali in the car crash off screen, Ruby in the helicopter crash thing at Debbie and Pete's wedding and now Rachel from a random heart condition - poor Amelia must be bricking it
At least Ruby had an on screen death though
Tbh Dan and Amelia are like spare parts on the show now. He’s sort of like Emmerdales version of Kirk from CS and at the time Kerry was like the Beth of the show.
He’s one character who feels like has come to a natural sort of end though and I don’t feel many would really notice or miss him if he were to go. But not necessarily kill him off just take him and Amelia and move them on screen maybe he could work in Debbies garage in Scotland
With off screen deaths do they just go ahead and do it or do they get the blessing of the actor / actress who played them. It’s a bit of a tricky situation tbh I’d hate to be killed off screen I’d even offer to go back and film a brief cameo with a last minute death scene then get the old phone call of so and so has died. I’d be majorly wound up tbh. Either kill them on screen or not at all.
Realistically the only time I think it’s plausible is when an elderly character leaves the show (alive) and then the real life actor passes away or when the actor themselves dies as there’s no way they could’ve come back. For instance with Emmerdale I’d only really accept it willingly had it been for the character of Sandy Thomas.
Is Kerry leaving the show, i don't see how the character can really stay on the show after the Frank storyline, but, if she does get killed off over what happened with Tracey, it could see an exit for both characters.
I can see a blackmail story happening.
Amy will keep quiet over what happened to Kerry if Tracey keeps quiet over what happened to Frank.
But Kerry I feel has sort of run her course as a character tbh and if she was to leave there’s always a chance she could come back if they don’t kill her off and she just gets jail.
The blackmail plot could work to keep both in the show.
That said, Tracey and Kerry both feel like characters that have come to a natural end.
Leah Bracknell who played Zoe Tate has died aged 55 three years after being diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer.
Sad day in the world of soap. She played that character very well.
Very sad news, she fought an extremely brave and courageous fight.
I am happy the family managed to keep her passing private until now so they could grieve in peace, Leah sadly passed away in September.
Sad news.
I liked her character a lot when watching clips of the time she was in the show. I was like ten when she left on screen but her exit was so so good!!
She come across lovely and so positive when on TV shows too. She’s been on This Morning discussing her treatment not too long ago.
Really sad, an iconic Emmerdale character by any stretch and she seemed like such a wonderful, resilient lady whenever I heard about her cancer battle - she was so determined
Is the DS who arrested Robert Sugden the original Glenn Donovan from Hollyoaks?
Also who are people thinking Nate really is?
It’s looking that way based off previews of this week but I hope not tbh!
But there’s no way at all Cain or Moira are going anywhere in this upcoming explosion on the boat.
Moiras turned into a complete hypocrite tbh but then again I don’t feel much sympathy for Cain because he’s done so much crap to others and gotten away with it time and time again it’s about time someone does something what Will hurt him
I am almost convinced Moira will die this week.
The character is destroyed in the last year and a half.
Id be stunned if she did die and they’d mananged to keep it under wraps.
She’s a major character and it would definitely have a massive impact.
I kind of feel if it’s her it might’ve leaked though but props to ED if it genuinely is her exit.
I have her down as being one of Emmerdales lifers now and she’d only leave if she chose to leave but I think they’d try to not kill her off so soon after we just lost Lisa Dingle.
If Moria dies it could be the reason for petes exit and faiths exit too perhaps?
If she dies, i would believe her departure was down to her own choice as the show bosses always give her fore front of the show storylines.
Splitting Cain and Moira up is not good if Moira does stay, they could have progressed with so many more storylines for them as a couple.
The connection between Nate and Cain has me curious, i think it will be his son from an old relationship.
Nate is Cains Son!!
So who is his mother?
Anyone else scream at Cain doing that impression though “Cain please”
I don’t know if it was supposed to be funny or not but I loved it
Not really surprised by the revelation.
Moira won't die, I think it'll be Pete
Cain's impersonation of Moira was iconic
Pete is the most likley to die unless it is Faith.
The cain moira scenes were good but the mandy Bob stuff mixed in dine my head in as did the Aaron drama.cain was brilliant in all the scenes.
The Cain, Moira and Nate scenes deserved more air time during the episodes as it was gripping to watch.
Much of the other material mixed through the episode wasn't interesting as i just wanted the episode to stay with Cain, Moira and Nate.
THRILLING storyline ahead of Aaron feeling sorry for himself, whinging 24/7 and ruining everyone else's lives rather than dealing with what's happening in his own :')
Ya im well bored of Aaron now, his emotions in storylines happens far to much as its always all about him and his reaction.
Ellis has been recast, an actor called Aaron Antony is taking over and he'll be back for Christmas!
They recast very quickly.
To recast they must believe they have some good storylines for the family.
I'm surprised they bothered! I know his dad came in and there was also the budding thing with Belle but the former has business with Kim and really it's easy to write other things for Belle to make up for that.
Looking at who they've recast him with, it seems Ellis has aged 20+ years whilst away from the village.
The actor could be good but looks wise he now looks like the older brother rather than the younger one
I welcome Aaron teaming up with Cain for some bad boy antics.
I cant deal with more emotional scenes from Aaron as there have been far too many.
I gave up watching Emmerdale a while ago but this new twist of Maya being pregnant is a new low. Even if it turns out not to be Jacob's (which I'm guessing it's not) it's a gross 'shock twist'. This whole storyline has been handled disgustingly from what I've seen and heard from spoilers.
WHAT!!!
Good god this program is really going to the dogs.
There's not even plans for Maya to return - those scenes were filmed back when she was still in it previously. It's just a cheap, nasty twist with no intention on being followed up.
I dont see them leaving it at this, Maya will be back with Baby.
I'm sure it'll be picked up in the future but there's no current plans which means it is just shock for the sake of it. A child grooming storyline is meant to be handled sensitively and the victim's perspective should be the main focus and they've neglected this a lot.
I felt the storyline overall was handled terribly.
The focus moved alot and i don't feel it was portrayed sensitively or accurately.
Jacob did some Brill scenes in the fri episode, its prob the only time I have felt empathy with him during the storyline.
Classic Emmerdale has been good on ITV3 they've just shown the classic plane crash storyline
Nates mam
But the show in general atm isn’t that great. I miss the days of this being #1 soap but there’s just so much of nothing happening.
Every episode seems to feature Aaron being miserable, Moira drinking and kicking off, Nate being there saying sorry to Cain and trying to make amends. We get occasional appearances from Wendy too talking about her Lee and Brenda being as unsubtle as ever in the cafe
Yet one of the only interesting characters Grahamis going and is Being killed off
The show needs some form of shake up though where something new happens or someone else moves to the forefront of the show. Charley Webb pls come back from maternity and have Debbie involved in some serious drama! (I’m guessing though with Sarah’s drugs story that’ll be how she’s written back into the show).
I'm happy to have debbie off screen as she gets far too many storylines, the show does need a shake up though as I'm finding it very dragged out at the moment.Aaron is become really grating aswell.
This has been the worst soap for a while but I have no words for the fact they think "Aaron has a few Grindr hookups" is a storyline
Bernice's exit storyline has been handled terribly.
I have enjoyed Bernice over the years and expected a much better exit for her.
I didn’t mind Bernices exit story that much. I’m glad the door was left open and unless Liam was also leaving they had to find some way to split them up.
Yeah, sourfaced Debola can stay AWAY. Emmerdale is bad enough as it is
I can't even put into words how bad this show is now
Eek.
I need some fellow Debbie fans to join me in loving her. I’m in the minority on forums it seems but at least she’s an entertaining character!
I’m confident the show will turn itself around though. Look at EE now that’s thriving but for a time that was the weakest soap I still think Emmerdale is better on the whole than what Corrie is though well there’s definitely less weak links in the cast.
I think it's been pretty good the past month or so? It's been better but I think storylines have been more engaging again. EastEnders and Corrie are better right now but Emmerdale's not that bad!
Also Debbie's not really a favourite of mine, has there ever been a more miserable character in soap lol
That said, Wendy is f***ing diabolical
Once again, Charity is the best in the show.
The Rhona storyline is such a rehash of her previous storyline when thinking of moving and Jai is not capable of pulling of the drugs storyline.
Her integration is boringly going to come with a relationship with Bob.
I will be very surprised if it doesn't head this direction.
I think Graham’s killer will be Andrea if it’s one of the suspects
However my other hunch was it’s Rhonas Ex Pierce.
I think that’s who he fought with when he was washing blood of his hands last week and he comes back for revenge in a shock unannounced return.
Andrea is the only suspect who fits though. The most disposable character.
People like Marlon, Charity, Jai and Kim Tate it would never be. I don’t think Jamie has it in him or Al who I think is just scheming to get Kim’s money.
I think it could also be Graham as there was rumours last year of a return.
If not, i would think its Andrea or Al.
It clearly wont be Marlon, Paddy or Kim.
Did they really drag it out showing the same day from so many perspectives just for it to be f***ing Pierce, cba
Nobody wants a repugnant character like him to return, what the actual f*** was that
And somebody who Graham has literally had zero interactions with...rrrrright, okay then
We’re probably gonna see Pierces story tomorrow
It’s likely it was pierce who Graham attacked last week when he was washing blood off his hands. Pierce is probably only gonna be back short term as well so I imagine by around July/August time he’ll be gone again. He’s on This Morning tomorrow although not much will probably be given away in that interview as we are yet to see his reasons play out on screen
I expected it to be him. The only suspect it could’ve been was Andrea.
I take it Jamie accidentally ran over Rishi’s dog then? And Charity and Ryan took back the money he stole as well from the cliffhangers we got from them?
Not shocked about pierce at all.
I don't so much mind that it's Pierce, to get him back into Rhona's life to ruin it again or stalk her or something and ruin her chance at happiness it makes sense, but it's just so stupid that they spent a whole week exploring the different perspectives and building up motives only for it to be someone else entirely...
I can see Pierce becoming a serial killer and he will kill at least 1 more person in the village before he inevitably is killed off.
I've enjoyed parts of this week, however can't help but feel it would've all been better had it unfolded naturally and was just told over the week in a linear way.
The POV episodes had no real bearing on the outcome either in the end and as a result the week has felt pointless as none of the POV people actually did it. Whilst some of the bits this week have been ok, this evenings episode was hilariously bad.
It was all dragged out and I feel most of the episodes were a waste of time. I wonder have al and pierce a connection to.
I wonder if Pierce knows Billy.
They may have been in jail at the same time and his gang (the one he was sort of forced to join) May have been amongst the bullies in jail he mentioned. This could then lead to a connection with Al or maybe even Dawn who could find herself in a situation with another creepy / predator like male.
Also who’s our money on being the first person to be wrongly jailed for this murder?
I think andrea or Jamie possibly Jamie to make kim feel bad.
Confirmed that Sandy Thomas will die off screen next week.
Sad news but I had a feeling it would happen as the actor sadly died last year.
Really liked his character, especially the vulnerability he showed during the Ashley abuse storyline.
Marlon being arrested is beyond laughable. Pierce's DNA would be everywhere/all over Graham
I'm extremely close to giving up with Emmerdale which is a shame because I've watched it non-stop since May 2014
It's all over the place at the moment and not nearly as good as it used to be.
Free Marlon
Poor Marlon of all the suspects he was the least likely to actually do it and there’s no way he’d win a fight with Graham it’s basic common sense to know that i swear if anyone genuinely thinks he’s capable I’ll scream
If people in the village turn on him and believe it initially it will be annoying and unwatchable as its beyond belief.
Best Soap Winner at NTAs!
They really did not deserve it this year.
What an absolute crap exit for Pete it was as basic as it comes and very little thought by the scriptwriters.
I’m glad Pete left the show alive though and got an exit where he can return realistically too.
I’m glad he didn’t commit a crime and go on the run etc. Low key though yeah it really was. He was a great character though just lost more recently.
Ya his exit does allow a return but i think he could have had a stronger exit as it was like a background storyline he got and considering how long he is in the show and had some big storylines it was a hugely disappointing exit.
I find it hard to believe that Kim hadn’t seen at the least seen a photo of Pierce before to point him out when he’s been at her house plus who would want that amount of money in cash very suspicious!
There was a time her and Rhona were close just seems strange although I suppose she wasn’t in the show when he was so they had to work him back somehow.
Vanessa’s cancer confirmed as a story too. Not much else exciting me rn about the show though.
I suppose Kim may have seen a photo but I doubt she'd remember him that clearly several months later, under a different name, without showing any sort of connection to Rhona!
A DRONE AND ARMED POLICE We almost pissed ourselves laughing. You'd think they'd just caught the leader of f***ing ISIS
God this show is just a mess
The show is a bit messy right now tbh and it’s probably gonna get worse.
It feels like nothing at all happens and stuff what does happen isn’t really note worthy.
I mean it’s good to have some light hearted and happy episodes like tonight’s with the wedding but it needs some spark.
Like Vanessa and her cancer story hasn’t really had an impact on me tbh. I don’t feel the way I did when it was Sinead in CS (different as I know hers was terminal) but the story’s focused more on charity than it is Vanessa and given that she’s married to the shows producer or one of them she’ll recover soon.
Then we have Dans allergy which could’ve been fantastic but again it let down and hasn’t impacted me much. I think it’s bc the actor only works well in certain roles but his daughter was appalling in the aftermath and Kerry doesn’t really work well in serious stories either. I said ages ago on a Digital Spy thread a food allergy story with a shock sudden death would be fantastic in a soap but maybe EE would do it best.
Also I have to say. Mandy Dingle Lisa Riley can act but that character is horrendous. I’m perhaps too young to remember her first stint on the show as I’d have been around 5 when she left but was she like this then too.
Mandy's return is very weak, I thought lisa would have only came back for much stronger storylines.
I'm done with the show. Haven't watched in a couple of weeks now
It's not great at all right now.
Dawn is a really miserable character, find her very depressing, really gone off Tracey aswell, I liked her in the build up to her David relationship but she is gratting since the split.
The entire show right now isn’t that great.
Vanessa is extremely irritating as well and given her current story you think you’d be rooting for her or feel more sympathy but the getting hammered in the pub episode was ridiculous.
Dawn had potential when she first arrived but they’ve turned into a misery and it doesn’t help she shares a lot of her scenes with characters who aren’t all that interesting aside from Billy.
The Cain storyline is ever so boring and unrealistic.
Belle is one of the most miserable characters in soapland, what does Jamie see in her above Andrea?
I really liked tonight’s episode
I didnt if im honest, i found it very dragged out and i think all the 2 handers will be the same but with thehm so limited in what they can do its better than nothing.
The cain and Aaron episode was a complete an utter boar fest.
Aww. RIP Paula, I have really early memories of Betty and she was a queen
She was a great character! I loved that the last time she was a regular on the show she had a positive happy ending too.
I’m guessing eventually the character will pass away off screen too. RIP Paula though
RIP Paula, i liked her character in the show, a harmless gossip for the most but fiited in great in many scenes.
Is the character of Amelia getting on anyone else’s nerves lately. She never used to be like this I swear but she’s transformed lately constantly sulking and kicking off at everyone
Yes!! I've found her insufferable for a while now, she's SO miserable and stroppy.
It’s the way she’s treating the lovely Brenda bless her. I mean she’s worried about her dad (well he’s not her dad but he is) but it was a genuine accident it’s not like she intentionally gave him something he was allergic too. But she’s also been pretty awful to everyone I guess now she’s turning into like teen years (the characters around 13 or so isn’t she) they’re really going OTT with the sudden transformation.
i used to like amelia but not since the whole dan isnt her father borefest.
Amelia again being awful again last night taking her frustrations out on a cake!
I think they’ve kinda ran their course now her and Dan time to move on. CS is usually the worst soap for spare part type characters but Emmerdale definitely has two with those
Also with Andrea I’m liking this bunny boiler possessive nature she’s showed lately. It’s kinda tricky bc Belle will always be seen as the saint in this saga even though she was in the wrong going with someone married but because she’s a dingle we’ll be made to root for her but Jamie is a bit of a wimp most of the time who always looks like he’s about to burst into tears. hard to believe he’s Kim’s son!
On another note are we eventually heading for a Moria / Cain reunion?
I agree that Dan and Amelia are pretty much spare parts. They drag Kerry down too which is a shame as I think she's got more mileage away from them...!
ngl I love Andrea *_*
Kerry and Amy are kinda lost they’ve just been there ever since that fire storyline they had around a year ago now. But I do think when it comes to it they can pull of a dramatic storyline.
Dan and Amelia are very much spare parts and amy is the same, Kerry has potential more so than them.
I think in large many of the current storylines are not the shows finest.
The lock down 2 hander episodes were so bad.
I liked tonight’s episode!
Mainly Tracy reminding Amy they’re not friends and remembering that she killed her dad (or partly did) we haven’t seen that side of her for a while so it was good to see her show that part of her personality again.
Aside from that the Malone story is getting OTT now. When Harriet moved the body as clear as a day in broad day light weeks ago and Dawn acting as un-normal as possible too. I wonder if Dawn and her history with drugs will be revisited soon though?
The Jamie / Belle story isn’t exciting me much though. It’s hard to tell who to root for actually as people like Cain are fine ones to talk he pretty much was the Belle in the situation when he got with Moira. I think low key I root for Andrea more and I liked the side of her character when she was scheming and bunny boiler like but bc it’s Emmerdale anyone who’s against a dingle will always be made to be the villain in the story.
Jamie and bell have absolutely zero chemistry and I really cdnt buy into them as a couple and it was the same in the pre covid episodes.
So Belle was against Jamie all along then?
i bet she was working with andrea for a few months now.
I can’t wait until Kim returns! She might make the story a bit more interesting.
The way they’re going at the moment it feels like a classic who attacked Jamie. I don’t see him being killed off but right now we have Andrea, Belle, Cain, Moria and Nate all as potential suspects!
Ya KIm is needed to make this storyline far more interesting.
Jamie’s personality transplant over the last two weeks is something!
I always have to laugh whenever murderer Moira who let her own son go on the run for her crime gets on her high horse though.
I need Kim back!
I quite like Meena too!
Already posted in the Celeb RIP Thread thought i'd put it here too
Just been reported that former Emmerdale actor Johnny Leeze who played Ned Glover has passed away
Currently to be seen on the ITV3 repeats of Classic Emmerdale
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/breaking-johnny-leeze-dead-emmerdale-22903732
https://twitter.com/SoapsandSciFi/status/1320377079456800768
https://twitter.com/EmmaDale022/status/1320357281712754688
https://twitter.com/Wrap_Management/status/1320392299336110080
Amelia’s accident was terribly done the other day.
The way she sprung in the air and then collapsed.
I mean there is literally no way anyone in any circumstance would’ve let Dan there on his own especially in a job like a mechanics where you have to be pretty fit, able to move etc. Cain might not be the best boss but that was out of character for even him to allow that. Poor Amelia I mean I do kinda feel sorry for her (she was a bit of a nightmare a few month ago always kicking off etc) but as characters both Dan and Amelia should’ve left a while ago.
I miss Amelia’s mam though she was great and deserved better than an off screen death but Dan and Amelia yeah! I think they’ve both kinda naturally ran their course.
However I am intrigued at the direction they’re putting Gabby in! I love Gabby. But what is her game. Is she thinking she’s potentially attracted to girls / Leyla or is it just because of Liam and her why she done that with the flowers.
Amelia is a good actress but saddled with poor storylines and a boring remainder of a family.
The worst thing about this show rn, and there's a lot, is potentially Jamie's personality transplant I know he's Kim Tate's son, but I liked him a lot more when he didn't act like it. He runs over Moira and suddenly he's a wannabe Phil Mitchell cba
Jamie’s personality transplant was literally overnight as well. It wasn’t gradual or like we had signs all along he was really like his mothers son he just instantly changed in the space of a scene. It’s very strange. I mean I like Jamie as a character now he’s more like this he is a bit more interesting but it does feel strange.
It’s gonna be his downfall though. Anyone who takes on a Dingle is a bad guy. I mean Jamie is in the wrong here in a sense but Moira always acts like she’s above everyone and she’s a saint but she killed someone and let her own son go on the run for it I can’t wait until Kim returns hopefully that’s soon!
Just what direction are they taking Gabby in though! She’s an interesting character right now
I’m really liking Moiras brother so far!
Ya he is showing potential, not sure about the whole Vanessa thing finding out so quick and the video, interesting to see who sent it to her, wish they didnt add that, Charity can still do drama without adding the cheating part in.
I think it’s more they needed to find a way of having Vanessa away from the village whilst not making it so that her cancer has gotten worse. It’s in charity’s character to act like that. But with the actress being a new mother it might be a while before we see her again on set so it may well just be the odd video call appearance we see of her. As for who sent the message it’s probably Jamie Tate. He’s in every other scene at the moment
It’s been announced that Laurel will fall pregnant with Jai’s baby but after finding out their child has Down’s syndrome she’ll decide to have an abortion. Can’t recall ever seeing this done in a soap before. Feel like it may provoke some complaints though.
The storyline regarding the Abortion of Laurels pregnancy as her unborn baby has Down’s syndrome has now had over 16,000 complaints.
I have to say I’m a bit nervous of the storyline playing out. I can definitely understand the backlash of this coming from fans though.
Meena is lowkey awful but also I stan, hammy villain come thru
I have hopes Bernice is the upcoming returnee.
Any other guesses?
The returnee is Faith!!
I've never f***ed with soaps but lockdown got me emmerdale hooked
anyone else think Debbie's daughter has Ariana vibes?
Debbie just comes with bags of misery and is sure to get huge screen time.
I would have preferred if she stayed in Scotland.
Kim just gives me EVERYTHING
The vinny and paul stuff since the death is horrifically annoying.
I think it's been handled really well - the most I've enjoyed Vinny so far and the best Mandy's been since her return too!
Love the news of the returnee on the way,
Meena will be a serial killer by the sound of new spoilers
Best character in the show rn tbh
I do like her, the most interesting character in the show right now. On the other hand I can't stand Tracy and Nate scenes, I just skip them as the whining is unbearable to watch.
She's absolutely unhinged, I'm OBSESSED
The murder scenes and aftermath so far have been incredible
Ya it was done well but meena dancing in the bedroom after the murder was hilarious.
Meena dancing to Toxic after killing Leanna was the most camp thing I've seen in ages
It's been SO good this week, Leanna wasn't a hugely essential character for me but it'll undoubtedly rock the boat going forward, and it'll give Liam something to do that isn't a cringe comedy scene.
Leanna's death I think will open the door to Liam ending up with Bernice.
I wouldn't be shocked if Rishi or Andrea are Meenas next victims before a Christmas reveal that Meena is the killer.
Is Meena anyone else’s favourite character across all soaps right now?
That scene with her singing Avril Lavigne in the mirror. Long may she stay. She’s so camp and clearly unhinged she doesn’t even hide it.
The scene a few weeks ago when they were doing life support on someone at the maze and she burst into singing Stayin Alive too.
We definitely need an episode dedicated to her backstory and her best friend who she killed though!
I like Meena she is interesting even though she is completely unhinged and bonkers but she is the most interesting character they have right now in the show.
I absolutely love Meena. She’s so camp and chaotic I think she’s really well played though she’s a divisive character for sure but I think the point of her is that she’s written as this almost camp and funny character who has this dark side what she can’t control. She’s a killer but a different kind of killer.
The main thing I wanna know with her is when does she ever work at the hospital? She’s a nurse right but she must be on annual leave every day
Meena reminds me of a film Kathleen Turner was in years agar called Serial Mom, her character was also chaotic, crazy and camp.
More Meena mayhem tonight. Did we all see that coming?
Ben was too nice and dopey for his own good there but Meena is so chaotic and iconic.
I hope we get a dance or musical number for her to celebrate another victim in tomorrows episode.
Also looking like Liv is getting the blame for that too isn’t it.
Liv wrecks my head I just find her so miserable drunk or sober.
Princess the dog last night going missing and everyone except Meena rushing to go and find her was a moment
Shes my favourite person in soap I just love her.
I take it this Dawn/Billy addition to her story though was edited when David and Victoria were suspended in real life.
Dawn and Billy just go around in circles and I think one of them will be Meenas next victim.
Aaron's exit feels extremely rushed and uneventful.
He was arguably one of the biggest characters in the show.
Aaron’s exit felt rushed and not very in character. So his man dies, his sister is in custody for it so he just goes off literally straight away. Can’t say I’ll miss him though.
Meena on the other hand I will miss greatly when her story concludes. She has me in hysterics every episode a camp queen finishing off the prawn cocktail crisps just to be petty
If Victoria and David were still on screen I think Sarah would be kidnapped instead of Manpreet. Meenas time on the show must be soon coming to an end and I think she will be missed by 50% of the audience.
Tracy's exit can't come fast enough and I would like her to take an extended maternity leave with Nate following her.
Meena will most definitely be missed by me!
I just hope she gets a non death exit. Ideally I hope she gets arrested and then we see an on screen trial for her. I can just picture her outfit for court and the looks she’d give male jury members. She’s fabulously entertaining though, an icon
I too will miss Meena and I want her to leave alive so she can return again when she magically breaks out of jail.
That was some exit!
So happy that our killer queen wasn’t killed off!
I’m hopeful when she does come back we see her jailed and she doesn’t get a death exit but I loved that ending so in character and camp. I know she’s marmite but she’s been so entertaining and I think Paige Sandhu has been amazing in the role, one of the most entertaining and funny soap killers we’ve ever seen, I’ll definitely miss her.
Good episode and its left it open for her return which probably wont be too long.
I was absolutely howling at her singing her best Tony/Gaga whilst serving choreography.
Oh this is finally entertaining now Queen Meena is back
Obsessed at her having a glamorous make over, stealing a limo, still drugging people. The most entertaining character in soap i love her. “She’s not ok Dawn I just shot her” totally sent me
The opening scene of tonight’s episode was absolutely fabulous as well.
So, in a village of 20 people, nobody saw Meena go into Harriet's (in the middle of Main Street) and come out with a screaming Lucas? It's not as if they were all at the wedding....
I will RIOT if they kill off Meena. Her one liners are amazing.
Well hello to you too when she’s revealed as the limo driver
Calling Billy Silly Billy
Are you drowning in your own fluids babe?
The “say what you see line” when she showed the photo of Harriet
My favourite scene so far this week was when she was dancing and singing around the limo I don’t know why I love her so much but she’s so charismatic and entertaining. I’ll really miss her Paige Sandhu best get other acting roles after this she’s a real talent.
I will RIOT if they kill off Meena. Her one liners are amazing.
Well hello to you too when she’s revealed as the limo driver
Calling Billy Silly Billy
Are you drowning in your own fluids babe?
The “say what you see line” when she showed the photo of Harriet
My favourite scene so far this week was when she was dancing and singing around the limo I don’t know why I love her so much but she’s so charismatic and entertaining. I’ll really miss her Paige Sandhu best get other acting roles after this she’s a real talent.
I doubt this will be it, it's always a Thursday where things peak/happen I hate when they just have an anticlimax death for a villain like this, so I hope not
They would be crazy to kill her off as they should leave the door open for a return, totally over the top bonkers character that is loved or hated but I'm in the love corner.
SPOILER ALERT
Meena appears in spoilers for week commencing 28th February as it’s revealed that Charles heads to the prison to visit her…
So I’m guessing tonight might feature her arrest as tonight’s the double episode night.
Well I was enjoying her return (after hating her before) but now it's got ridiculous, there is no way she would survive that fall, and come round with no head injury/amnesia or it seems even a scratch
So will Meena get assault and kidnapping charges after all that ordeal..
Meena is even better than Janine
Ar Meena being imprisoned is the new Free Deirdre <3
Free The Woolpack One!!
Liv who looks about 12 and Vinny who doesn’t have a pot to p*ss in fleeing for their wedding is just cringe.
Constantly miserable Chas is having a real dampener on scenes lately too. Lucy can act but they’re making her character so unlikeable at the moment by having her be in a constant mood.
They really made a mistake having a Dingle buy the Woolpack we needed fresh blood in there preferably a Dingle free zone.
Meena is still the best character in soap right now I can’t bare to face reality she is really going soon Meena has basically saved Manpreet though before she come into the show she was completely lost and she didn’t really get any material at all now look at her
Meena to Manpreet is kinda like what Geoff was to Yasmeen. I do hope they use Rebecca as much when Meena exits the show as she’s proved to be a great actress and the character is popular too.
Also re Chloe is her dad storyline now dropped? They had this big mystery of that and now it’s not really mentioned as such.
Meena will be greatly missed as the other storylines are lackluster at the moment.
Marlon wouldnt be a character I would normally praise but last night's scenes with him having a stroke were powerful and I felt it was really happening, superb scene delivery.
I am interested to understand what the pre symptons were as I had not picked up on any, did anyone else?
Yes the soap world will remember you, Meena for definite. Last night's episode was definitely memorable to say the least.
Last night's episode was ridiculous on every level and I absolutely LOVED it
Probably the most ridiculous episode in soap history, but very memorable. Maybe Meena to come back for the 50th anniversary later in the year?
Paige Sandhu better clean up at the British Soap Awards.
She’s absolutely smashed the part of Meena, I’ll miss her so much
It would have been much better if she'd got away with it, like Janine!! The whole soap thing of, women must pay for what they do - but men like Phil Mitchell neeeever do :rofl: - is antiquated fantasy.
No wonder Emmerdale Farm does bettee than EE with these mad storylines :lol:
Paige Sandhu is an excellent actress but the trial im not sure if i loved it or hated it, the ending was complete bonkers and as unrealistic as it could possibly be but removing that it was entertaining I THINK.
Thursday more than made up for the 3 trial days which were pretty disappointing apart from the end scene on Tuesday. It should have ended on Thursday although we would have missed out on the end scene on Friday.
I am surprised Meena is still appearing in episodes.
Meenas final episode (for now..) was tonight.
I’m going to miss her so much. Paige Sandhu has been the standout star on not just Emmerdale but across all soaps the last few years so I’ve no doubt she’ll be in high demand. So relieved that soap killers getting a non death exit has become a thing now first Gray and now Meena (although with Meena we seen her trial and sentencing). What an exit she got though, I think it was the right one.
Paige is undeniably a great actress and she will be missed, the court case stuff was fine but i did prefer her work just before she was caught out.
Paige is up for Leading Performer at the Soap Awards *.*
Sometimes I would prefer for all awards to be voted by the public.
Anniversary week has been really disappointing, big let down,, but Emma Atkins who plays Charity has been great, I've always thought she is one of best actresses in soap.
The writing for Chas is terrible right now.
Happy Birthday to Norman Bowler who played Frank Tate who turned 90 today
https://twitter.com/Classicbritcom/status/1553896063479717890/photo/1
Emmerdale to air for an hour on Sunday 8pm.
That episode tonight was awfully disappointing and very unbelievable.
Big bang to end the episode.
Tune in tomorrow for more fun!
Very much looking forward to the cow stampede later in the week
ITV3 are airing selected classic episodes all this week after 10pm
Episode details here
https://twitter.com/EmmaDale022/status/1582076218920538112
The anniversary episodes were overall a letdown.
Anyone think differently?
Enjoying Classic Emmerdale on ITV3
Just reached the wheelie bin saga on the episodes i'm catching up with, now they're common place in Society today
and lol at the scene where Viv falls into one i remembered that from first time round
Just watched the one where Angie Reynolds dies in the car chase
I remember watching that Viv scene, never understood why they axed her and pretty much replaced her with Brenda but Viv was much better, Deena was understandably a bit bitter about her axing and also her exit.
Emmerdale has confirmed that a character is returning for a wedding:
https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/a43623358/emmerdale-spoilers-return-summer-wedding/
Lmao at the wheelie bin cliffhanger 💀
Peter Martin has died at the age of 82.
The actor, best known for playing Len Reynolds in Emmerdale and Joe Carroll on The Royle Family, died on Wednesday morning, with a friend confirming the news on social media.
Actually felt sorry for Nicky at the end. The actor is also a lot better in his scenes with Caleb than he is when he's acting with other actors.
Steve Halliwell, known for his long-running role as Zak Dingle in Emmerdale, has died at the age of 77.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-67726556
R.I.P.
Tonight's episode was a complete gut punch. Hats off to the Emmerdale team for delivering their best episode in a long time, and the actors who play Bob and Brenda finally being given something substantial to work with after so long has paid off. Really excited to watch the aftermath, so much potential and I think we're in for some of the young stars' best performances so far (Cathy and April notably).
Definitely didn’t see tonight’s episode going that way but I do think it’s going to give some much needed story time for those characters you mentioned Joseph!
Always like it as well when the Dingles aren’t front and centre I think that’s how the Meena storyline (completely different to this story ofc) did so well.
Hoping that Cathy’s actress isn’t recast though as her and the actor who played Heath are actually twins in real life.
Is anyone enjoying the Rhona storyline?
I want it to end as Rhona lead storylines always work out to be very depressing.
Anything with Rhona at the centre is generally great I find, because Zoe Henry is one of the finest talents they have! I'm finding this storyline interesting so far, probably going a little OTT but that's soapland I guess.
Huge shoutout to Louise Jameson too, who steals every scene she's in with the warmth she brings to the role of Mary. One of the most essential characters in any soap right now!
The character of Ruby is so high camp and I think I’m going to bed obsessed with her
Chas botoxed to the hilt for her new storyline
Her character was absolutely destroyed with the Al storyline and everything associated with it.
It leaves it hard to emphasize with her now as a result.
Lucy Pargeter is such an asset to the show, I think she's played it so well that somehow I'm back on Chas' side after the character assassination of the Al storyline. Lucy and Emma Atkins have had Emmerdale on their back for years
Emma Atkins is superb actress and it's disappointing she hasn't won more awards over the years.
Ruby is a good asset to the show right now and an interesting character but the return of Kerry is a not her again moment as she is totally pointless as is Amy. These characters and Vanessa are like hamsters on a wheel going round and round doing the same thing.
The creative decisions surrounding her character's narrative arc involving the Al storyline and its associated elements effectively undermined and devastated the integrity of her characterization.
After killing off Rishi and Heath, seems like Emmerdale are set to kill off another character....
https://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/emmerdale/a60556546/emmerdale-sam-hall-exit-samson-dingle/
Heath's death has been one of the best soap storylines of the year for me, they've handled it so well. Not convinced killing Rishi was the best decision considering Amit's storyline was a bit of a damp squib (other than the glimpse of Jai's dark side returning...!), so I'm not sure what to think of this. I don't agree with killing too many young characters, particularly those attached to big families. These are the soap characters of the future. EastEnders made a similar mistake with Denny's death... there's just no need when these are the characters linked to the show's most iconic families!
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