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 11th March 2017, 10:25 PM
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The video is awful.
I showed it to my mum after we finished MelFest, she said I'll close my eyes like I do when I see Rag'n'Bone Man so I can try and enjoy it. |
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11th March 2017, 10:35 PM
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 I was born 7 million years ago in Sweden, Africa
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ARGH it's so FRUSTRATING
The production is SO much better and the song was building nicely and I was waiting for the climax and it SORT of came, but it's still not quite powerful enough for me. You look at Denmark, now THAT climaxes brilliantly! The revamp is MILES better than the original production but it's JUST fell a bit short of becoming a great entry which is a shame. |
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11th March 2017, 10:39 PM
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Well we can't deny it's lived up to its "revamp" rumour. I'm impressed.
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11th March 2017, 10:44 PM
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THE BLAZE *.*
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Is no one else thinking how spectacular the new 'Ocean's crossed' belt after the middle 8 could be with the new production live?
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11th March 2017, 10:58 PM
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I am hoping this could surprise us all and do something special in May. However a Top 15 placing would be an amazing achievement for Lucie and the UK (Although still written off by the media.)
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11th March 2017, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(Cameron @ Mar 11 2017, 10:44 PM)  Is no one else thinking how spectacular the new 'Ocean's crossed' belt after the middle 8 could be with the new production live? See this is the thing, I think the reason she won the NF in the first place is that she can bring it to another level live (which is a result of all that theatrical experience no doubt). I think this is the best song we've had, definitely since Molly and potentially even since Blue! |
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12th March 2017, 06:17 AM
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 I found the love, I found the love in me
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I actually prefer the original version!
 I just think that's so beautifully subtle and really shows off her vocals. I think it might be slightly over produced, but I'm intrigued to hear and see a performance with the new production.
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18th March 2017, 02:47 AM
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The original edit sounded like it was ripped straight from a West End production (obviously cause of Lucie..) which was fine but this production has taken it to a new level.
The new version makes it sound like a contemporary pop song which I think we needed to show that we were taking it seriously. It would have been interesting to see how Europe would have taken to the original, as we're known for the West End and it was a kind of nod to that, but I'm super happy with this new production. |
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18th March 2017, 07:12 PM
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Woah, this is just awful!
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18th March 2017, 07:55 PM
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This new version sounds like it could potentially give us a top 20 (which by our standards would be a miracle), g'won Lucie.
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22nd March 2017, 03:36 PM
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Loving the gaytastic 7th Heaven remix!
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22nd March 2017, 08:28 PM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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OH YESSSS!!!!! COME THROUGH 7TH HEAVEN! *.* *.* *.*
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22nd March 2017, 08:31 PM
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If sticky carpets with bottles of VK had a soundboard...
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31st March 2017, 11:49 AM
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Hi everybody, feeling reasonably but pragmatically positive (hello – United Kingdom) anyway –
Firstly, Lucie’s day job is live singing eight times a week for much of a show. She’s used to looking after her voice and rehearsing at a full-on tempo as well as delivering a first-class live performance and having to sell a song, communicating above staging in a way that other recent UK entries just haven’t been. At the National Final, she added an extra emotional dimension to the song, the words seem to resonate for her and she certainly sold the song in a way the other entrants couldn’t which gave her an edge over more conventionally Eurovision songs, which is not a surprise, musicals are all about telling a story through song. In a lot of ways there are cross-over skills here and given the UK is so good at live events and musical theatre as well as pop music, it puzzles me why we’re so rubbish at ESC now. Secondly, it is a ballad, but the very fact that it’s overtly emotional and romantic might actually work in our favour. We are not making any statements and keeping it simple. Finland is probably approaching this in the same way, simple and elegant rather than say Georgia who are trying to say something. It’ll be interesting to see how well Finland does given we’re in the same Semi. It seems likely given last year’s result and Russia, people might back-away from message songs this year and this could play to our advantage, especially if quite a few songs in the Final are either up-tempo, pop-py or quirky. It might also resonate well with certain demographics just because it is so romantic – a nice slow-dance moment in Euroclub. Thirdly, there are tonnes of staging possibilities – stark and minimalist like a softer ‘Sweet People’, dark stage with gradual light increase and an slow-change LED background, go a bit ‘Gravity’ or just go for it and pretend she’s Sarah Brightman. That’s just four ideas. It’s really quite the torch song. I watched a film of the London revival production of Miss Saigon soon after it was picked and I kept thinking how this feels like its like one of those big ballads musicals use to tell the story and wondered whether Emmelie de Forest had noticed this and whether she’d done it by accident looking for a big vocal show-stopper. Perhaps going all Nancy from Oliver! during ‘As Long as He Needs Me’ on a windswept stage is the way they are going to go, but in a much nicer gown? Fourthly, the revamp shows you can tweak and adjust the sound and it still holds together, you couldn’t do much with ‘You’re Not Alone’ really. You could do interesting remixes – or just have her sing it with no backing track and let her voice do the talking. We have done quite well whenever we’ve gone musical theatre and I don’t think a lot of people were thrilled with the idea of Lloyd Webber before he bagged us 5th place back in 2009 with a staging ripped from a Fred and Ginger movie and the same kind of old school song. I feel reasonably positive 15th to 20th is possible this time – and we were 19th with Bonnie Tyler. Look, as long as they stage it half decently and she does a good turn on the stage, the message of love and perseverance is universal, she will resonate, regardless of whether people vote for it or not and right now, that’s all we can hope for. We are in rebuilding mode and we ought not to be afraid of trying other styles, it would be a step-back to go for another IKEA pop song that other countries like Sweden do a lot better just because its safe - we have to earn our AQ status now. |
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31st March 2017, 02:52 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks she has a very plain tone, out of interest? Like, I'm sure she's super professional and everything but I'm finding it hard to get past her defining trait being a voice incapable of projecting personality.
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31st March 2017, 03:06 PM
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Brown cow, stunning!
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Nah I do too, I really like the song and she's a very very good technical singer, but you'd have a hard time spotting her voice if you heard a new song by on the radio or something!
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31st March 2017, 03:17 PM
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I remember loving her on X Factor, but I think after the amount of theatrical / classical training she has done since the show has really moulded her voice for the west end
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6th April 2017, 11:28 AM
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The song was really meant for Emmelie's voice *.* |
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26th April 2017, 02:05 AM
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Hate how every year we select a song and then that's it - no promo, buzz or build up from the BBC
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28th April 2017, 11:05 PM
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If the Graham Norton staging was an indicator of what they are taking to Kyiv then it will look very similar to Sanna Nielsen's staging for Undo!
 I wouldn't be surprised if they do keep it that way, hopefully they can make it look as effective as they did for Sanna. Lucie's vocals were perfect again, the backing track could've done with being a bit louder in the mix so we'll see how it plays out. |
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