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 31st October 2017, 11:01 AM
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Presumably we'd all agree that children need protecting from the more unpleasant aspects of life until they are mature enough to handle them - but are we going too far?
We have all sorts of H&S rules nowadays that stop children playing the way thy did decades ago - but IMO authorities are far more interested in not getting sued, than they are about protecting children from accidents. Even in universities we sometimes now have such absurdities as 'safe spaces' - but ISTM such things just lead to avoidance of problems, rather than dealing with them, as they'll have to when then they leave uni & go out into the real world of work. If your boss gives you an unpleasant task, you won't last long cowering in a 'safe space'!  Also, people are all too quick to demand their adult rights when they reach 18 (or sometimes even before), but they are far less keen to accept the responsibilities that go with them. |
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31st October 2017, 11:21 AM
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All too often the "fear of being sued" is just an excuse for making cuts. Councils don't want to say that they are cutting services for financial reasons so they invent a "health and safety" excuse.
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31st October 2017, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Oct 31 2017, 11:21 AM)  All too often the "fear of being sued" is just an excuse for making cuts. Councils don't want to say that they are cutting services for financial reasons so they invent a "health and safety" excuse. That's a new one on me. I often wonder what councils do spend their money on, though. 
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31st October 2017, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Oct 31 2017, 12:28 PM) That's a new one on me. I often wonder what councils do spend their money on, though. shoddy politically-motivated decisions by half-baked leaders with no sense of practical reality or desire to listen to experts (ie people doing the job who know what they are talking about) is my experience. Oddly enough, almost entirely Conservative councillors down this part of the world... a lot of the British H&S fears are due to fear of being sued by those legal firms specialising in claims, many of them suspect, and the inevitable increase in insurance that goes along with it when the insurance companies insist Councils do something about it or they won't pay out on claims. And of course, some Councils really do have vile lack of concern for actual Health & Safety if it saves a few grand. Perhaps Tower Hamlets should be mentioned again? |
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31st October 2017, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Oct 31 2017, 11:01 AM) Presumably we'd all agree that children need protecting from the more unpleasant aspects of life until they are mature enough to handle them - but are we going too far? We have all sorts of H&S rules nowadays that stop children playing the way thy did decades ago - but IMO authorities are far more interested in not getting sued, than they are about protecting children from accidents. Even in universities we sometimes now have such absurdities as 'safe spaces' - but ISTM such things just lead to avoidance of problems, rather than dealing with them, as they'll have to when then they leave uni & go out into the real world of work. If your boss gives you an unpleasant task, you won't last long cowering in a 'safe space'! Also, people are all too quick to demand their adult rights when they reach 18 (or sometimes even before), but they are far less keen to accept the responsibilities that go with them. You have no idea what a safe space is, do you? |
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31st October 2017, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Oct 31 2017, 12:28 PM) That's a new one on me. I often wonder what councils do spend their money on, though. Probably because the Daily Mail are all too happy to accept the Health and Safety excuse. After all, it helps them achieve their rant quota for the day. |
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31st October 2017, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(Soy Adrián @ Oct 31 2017, 02:47 PM) You have no idea what a safe space is, do you? Yes I do (I looked it up before I posted), but I don't confine myself to the strict definition of it. It has now morphed into a way of suppressing any debate that *might* offend someone, by having entire meeting rooms as 'safe spaces'. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2017/...not-exist-real/ QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Oct 31 2017, 03:18 PM) Probably because the Daily Mail are all too happy to accept the Health and Safety excuse. After all, it helps them achieve their rant quota for the day. But I didn't even mention the Mail... 
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