BuzzJack Music Forum _ Spice Girls _ Emma Bunton - 'Coming Home for Christmas' + 'Santa Baby'
Posted by: ThePensmith 5th November 2019, 07:31 PM
Just announced on The One Show tonight, a brand new original Christmas single from Emma is out next Friday.
Posted by: Jade 5th November 2019, 07:32 PM
The clip sounded nice on The One Show! Looking forward to it.
Posted by: ThePensmith 5th November 2019, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(Jade @ Nov 5 2019, 07:32 PM)
The clip sounded nice on The One Show! Looking forward to it.
I know, it sounds gorgeous! One for my festive playlists this year I think
Posted by: vibe 5th November 2019, 07:39 PM
I hope it is good .
At least it is an original and not Chris Rea .
Posted by: Michael Andrew 5th November 2019, 08:07 PM
'Coming Home For Christmas' sounds gorgeous!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UtOUmHRiio
Posted by: sammy01 5th November 2019, 08:32 PM
Was really hoping for it to be upbeat. Her voice will be gorgeous and I'm sure suit a Christmas song but yeah something like One more sleep would have been preferred.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 5th November 2019, 09:09 PM
Sounds like a pretty song based on the clip, hopefully the full thing is great!
Posted by: pippa 5th November 2019, 09:31 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Nov 5 2019, 08:32 PM)
Was really hoping for it to be upbeat. Her voice will be gorgeous and I'm sure suit a Christmas song but yeah something like One more sleep would have been preferred.
Mmhm, "original song" is a very loose term these days.
Posted by: sammy01 5th November 2019, 10:35 PM
I'm just saying what she said, there is a clip of it, it is a ballad. The chorus is coming home for Christmas repeated.
Posted by: tommie 5th November 2019, 10:42 PM
Well, are we sure it's not that obscure song I posted?
Posted by: Blond 2.0 5th November 2019, 11:05 PM
Sounds lovely and I'm glad it's original and not a cover
Posted by: masahiro 6th November 2019, 12:44 AM
do you think this is one off single? or My Happy Place Christmas reissue is coming?
so glad we have 2 spice songs for 2 weeks in a row!
Posted by: Mr.X 6th November 2019, 10:02 AM
It's a bit strange that she has announced it on live TV but there's no info on her social media/websites tbh. I would think she will just be releasing a single, with possible an EP or re-edition of My Happy Place, but after this year in Spice World, I guess you never know hey
x
Posted by: sammy01 6th November 2019, 10:45 AM
I'm guessing as it isn't out for 9 days, next week her social media will start to push it.
Posted by: Mr.X 14th November 2019, 02:01 PM
So the song is now out in New Zealand and release includes a cover version of Santa Baby
You can hear snippets here: https://music.apple.com/nz/album/coming-home-for-christmas-single/1486940736
Seems like there is no video or cd release. Hope she does some campaigning for it though...
Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th November 2019, 02:28 PM
Nice to have two tracks! Santa Baby is a great choice for her.
Emma's version to poach streams from Kylie this year and become a top 40 hit? (Lol)
Posted by: Mr.X 14th November 2019, 02:37 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Nov 14 2019, 03:28 PM)
Nice to have two tracks! Santa Baby is a great choice for her.
Emma's version to poach streams from Kylie this year and become a top 40 hit? (Lol)
ah tbh she does seem to be going for that Low Budget Kylie crown this Christmas, what with a Xmas single and a gig at the Albert Hall
Lets hope this gets included in various playlists on Spotify/Apple Music and Tidal, otherwise it will sink into nothingness straight away as there is no buzz whatsoever for it anywhere lol
Posted by: sammy01 14th November 2019, 02:53 PM
From that clip the lyrics are so incredibly on the nose, they have gone for any Christmas words that rhyme.
Santa baby sounds like a completely paint by numbers copy of Kylie.
Posted by: JaneJ 14th November 2019, 07:47 PM
I like Coming Home for Christmas, lovely.
Posted by: vibe 14th November 2019, 08:04 PM
And Kylie copied Madonna ....
Posted by: tommie 14th November 2019, 08:11 PM
QUOTE(vibe @ Nov 14 2019, 09:04 PM)
And Kylie copied Madonna ....
To be fair - Madonna and Kylie's versions of Santa Baby are nothing alike. Madonna's leans more into the comedy side if anything with those chipmunk vocals.
Posted by: sammy01 14th November 2019, 08:16 PM
Yeah I meant Emma sings it is a bit if a flirty/cheeky way that Kylie does.
Posted by: sammy01 15th November 2019, 12:16 AM
Coming home for Christmas is a cute song, a decent effort. The last chorus is utterly overkill though church bells, triangles, sleigh bells, any sense of actual rhythm gets lost on the last chorus. It is a 7 out of 10, 8 had the last chorus not been so messy.
Santa baby is pretty pointless, it is a kylie copy.
Posted by: Mr.X 15th November 2019, 12:18 AM
Coming Home For Christmas is ok. I quite like the business of the last chorus tbh. My main issue is with some of the lyrics in the verses. But overall, it's not bad at all, I was expecting much worse ah Santa Baby is just tacky ah, and a bit creepy
Nice to have some new Bunton tracks though, specially a new original one!
Posted by: dachiki 15th November 2019, 01:11 AM
I don't really like Christmas songs except Christmas mariah songs
Posted by: vibe 15th November 2019, 07:14 AM
Just listened and Emma seems to be singing in her lower register which isn’t her strength .
I think I prefer Santa Baby.
So now I have Madonna’s and Emma’s version .
Posted by: tommie 15th November 2019, 07:23 AM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Nov 14 2019, 09:16 PM)
Yeah I meant Emma sings it is a bit if a flirty/cheeky way that Kylie does.
There's only so many ways to do Santa Baby without reverting to something really drastic ie Almighty Sleighbell Remix.
I'm not really sure Santa Baby is a good song from the perspective that Kylie's version seems to have really taken over as the version people listen to/stream besides Eartha's version. I don't think people will necessarily seek Emma's out, so I think they could've chosen a famous Christmas song that doesn't really have any version that gets too dominant streaming.
Posted by: sammy01 15th November 2019, 08:30 AM
Michael Buble has a very different take and version on Santa Baby, it can be done.
Posted by: tommie 15th November 2019, 09:11 AM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Nov 15 2019, 09:30 AM)
Michael Buble has a very different take and version on Santa Baby, it can be done.
I haven't heard his version but I assume it's some form of big band version of it?
Yeah, of course, Emma could've done something with a full orchestra, but to be real here - this was likely produced on the cheap side. As I said, I would've gone for a famous song that might not have a hugely dominant version that's available on streaming. I assume the reason they included Santa Baby in this was just for that reason - to attempt to lure people who stream into checking out her Christmas track, but her Santa Baby will just get drowned out by Kylie's version and Eartha's original.
Posted by: vibe 15th November 2019, 11:26 AM
Its a shame these christmas songs sound like they have been recorded in their shed in the garden.
Posted by: sammy01 15th November 2019, 02:55 PM
I agree about the production, My happy place could have had much better production too.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 15th November 2019, 03:11 PM
Ugh. Keep it.
Posted by: Mr.X 15th November 2019, 10:30 PM
Her streaming numbers are TERRIBLE!
Youtube: 3,500 Spotify: less than 1000
There has been no press campaign for this song at all either... I'm filing this under 'bonus for the fans'
Posted by: sammy01 15th November 2019, 10:42 PM
It is just to help her promote the Albert Hall gig and it is only mid November. I cant imagine anyone rushing to listen to it right now, even her fans till December.
I'm sure she has done over 1k streams on Spotify but it wont update till tomorrow.
Posted by: Mr.X 15th November 2019, 11:03 PM
It usually updates regularly during the day. Genuinely feel that it's just not done over 1000 streams lol
But yes clearly it is just for promo for Albert Hall gig. Hope she has some promo lined up though. Her tweet about it mentioned she will sing it live for the first time at the concert so don't expect any performances of the song until then.
Let's hope it gets added to a few Christmas playlists come December, that is genuinely the only way she will get noticed at all.
Posted by: Mr.X 16th November 2019, 10:13 AM
I STAND CORRECTED!
It has now been updated for 2930 streams on Spotify
Posted by: tommie 16th November 2019, 10:54 AM
I haven't even bothered to listen to it or Santa Baby, so... Do people really listen to Christmas songs mid-November? Except for All I Want For Christmas, of course...
Posted by: sammy01 16th November 2019, 11:02 AM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 16 2019, 10:13 AM)
I STAND CORRECTED!
It has now been updated for 2930 streams on Spotify
$ucce$$
But yeah the song is cute but I'm not rushing to listen to it in mid November.
Posted by: Mr.X 16th November 2019, 11:55 AM
Realistically, what are the chances of her doing Radio and TV performances for this song?
TV she could have:
- Strictly Come Dancing - Jonathan Ross - Loose Women - Good Morning Britain (do they still do performances?) - Graham Norton (probably never for a solo spice ah)
And I am sure there will be plenty of Christmas specials she could perform at, no?
Posted by: Spiceboy 16th November 2019, 12:09 PM
It's a sweet enough song simple and inoffensive. However her voice sounds utterly dreadful on the verses, why on earth is she singing in that low register also is she singing down her nose?
Posted by: Spiceboy 16th November 2019, 12:12 PM
Listening to Santa Baby now, her voice sounds much more pleasant on this one suits her a lot more.
Posted by: tommie 16th November 2019, 12:16 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 16 2019, 12:55 PM)
Realistically, what are the chances of her doing Radio and TV performances for this song?
I think it'll depend on if they really plan to push this track or not.
If it's just released to promote her Albert Hall gig, then I assume any sort of extensive tv or radio promotion is out. With it being released under BMG I guess there's a chance they'll do more with it though.
Posted by: Spiceboy 16th November 2019, 12:23 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 16 2019, 11:55 AM)
Realistically, what are the chances of her doing Radio and TV performances for this song?
TV she could have:
- Strictly Come Dancing - Jonathan Ross - Loose Women - Good Morning Britain (do they still do performances?) - Graham Norton (probably never for a solo spice ah)
And I am sure there will be plenty of Christmas specials she could perform at, no?
Would be wonderful if they could get a few of these slots! Strictly has some complete random performances so she could possibly get a slot on there if BMG were willing to pay out for it. Can't see any solo Spice getting a Graham Norton slot ever again though tbh... (shame as he is so much better than Ross)
Posted by: sammy01 16th November 2019, 01:21 PM
I think she is more likely to go on shows and have a sit down chat as promo.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 16th November 2019, 02:03 PM
It’s a very sweet song, but yeah I don’t feel like overplaying it right now. I’m sure come December I’ll give it a lot more time though. I really hope it’ll be added to some festive playlists!
Posted by: Slick 16th November 2019, 02:14 PM
I think it's sweet and suits her voice really well. Time will tell how replayable it is.
Posted by: Michael Andrew 16th November 2019, 09:45 PM
Posted by: Big Boobs Vjay! 16th November 2019, 10:20 PM
QUOTE(tommie @ Nov 16 2019, 10:54 AM)
I haven't even bothered to listen to it or Santa Baby, so... Do people really listen to Christmas songs mid-November? Except for All I Want For Christmas, of course...
Yes. I listen to them a lot atm.
Posted by: Spiceboy 17th November 2019, 10:49 PM
QUOTE(tommie @ Nov 16 2019, 10:54 AM)
I haven't even bothered to listen to it or Santa Baby, so... Do people really listen to Christmas songs mid-November? Except for All I Want For Christmas, of course...
I don't even listen to AIWFC, December is the only month Christmas music is played for me... I did give both of these one listen though. Think I'll be replacing Kylie's version of Santa Baby with Emma's as I prefer her voice. I don't really like Emma's vocals on the verses in the original song though she sounds weird.
Posted by: isanka 21st November 2019, 10:47 AM
I do enjoy the song. it will be added to my Xsmas playlist.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 21st November 2019, 06:48 PM
Interestingly Santa Baby is proving ever so slightly more popular on Spotify than Coming Home for Christmas:
10,376 streams - Santa Baby 9,253 streams - Coming Home for Christmas
Posted by: tommie 21st November 2019, 07:51 PM
I don't think it's that shocking since Santa Baby is a well-known song to begin with.
At the end of the day, it'll all depend on if Coming Home For Christmas can get on some good Christmas playlists and get proper radio play.
Posted by: sammy01 21st November 2019, 11:09 PM
I noticed she was promoting the Albert Hall gig with Santa baby on social media today. I guess both will get a push and the label will hope one or the other gets playlisting or radio play.
Posted by: Spice Girls Net 21st November 2019, 11:23 PM
Emma will be appearing on 'Michael McIntyre's Big Show' on BBC One on Saturday 30th November from 8.10pm to play 'Send To All'.
Posted by: Mr.X 22nd November 2019, 12:28 AM
Here's hoping she will do a bit more promo than this, cos the tickets are not really selling
Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd November 2019, 07:06 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Nov 21 2019, 06:48 PM)
Interestingly Santa Baby is proving ever so slightly more popular on Spotify than Coming Home for Christmas:
10,376 streams - Santa Baby 9,253 streams - Coming Home for Christmas
Today:
12,046 - Santa Baby (+1,670) 10,459 - Coming Home for Christmas (+1,206)
Eek, such low numbers currently. Let's pray these actually get some playlist treatment at some point...
Posted by: sammy01 22nd November 2019, 07:44 PM
I just cant listen to Christmas music in November, I'll give it some streams in December.
I'm guessing the budget gone into both songs amounts to cheap studio time and that's about it. Neither songs will get a video or anymore money spent on them so I guess they arent looking at losing money on them. On the off chance one takes off or gets good playlisting then bonus.
Posted by: vibe 22nd November 2019, 08:00 PM
Is High Heels streaming’s better ?
Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd November 2019, 08:45 PM
It is! 216,920 streams for that. I mean in terms of Spotify that's not fantastic for 16 days of availability, but it's decent for Melanie C.
Posted by: Big Boobs Vjay! 22nd November 2019, 10:36 PM
Emma B having the best original Xmas song so far of 2019 though
Posted by: Mr.X 22nd November 2019, 10:50 PM
True. Certainly better than that Little Mix new song, which is just boring. But I still think that a nice short bridge would have helped Emma's song a bit more (as well as *some* resemblence of promo ah)
Posted by: sammy01 22nd November 2019, 11:30 PM
Certainly wouldn't hurt her doing some radio promo for the song and Albert Hall gig. Though I guess it is probably still a little early for that if she is looking to get a Christmas song playlisted on radio 2 or the likes of.
If I was BMG that would be the main goal radio 2 playlisting and hope it takes off from there.
Posted by: Blond 2.0 23rd November 2019, 11:16 PM
I love it and also she sounds so cute on santa baby
Posted by: Blond 2.0 23rd November 2019, 11:19 PM
I love it and also she sounds so cute on santa baby
Posted by: sammy01 24th November 2019, 12:05 AM
This has been added to a Christmas playlist on Apple at #89 🙈
Posted by: Mr.X 24th November 2019, 11:32 AM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Nov 24 2019, 12:05 AM)
This has been added to a Christmas playlist on Apple at #89 🙈
It's STARTIIIIING
lol at #89
Posted by: Jay ☆ 24th November 2019, 02:43 PM
Christmas #1 incoming *.*
I’ll be disappointed if it doesn’t get on any Christmas playlists on Spotify
Posted by: Mr.X 24th November 2019, 07:44 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Nov 24 2019, 02:43 PM)
Christmas #1 incoming *.*
I’ll be disappointed if it doesn’t get on any Christmas playlists on Spotify
Unless BMG pays for the privilege, I don't see it happening, sadly. The streaming numbers are terrible...
Posted by: Mr.X 25th November 2019, 01:02 PM
OK Emma's promo is kicking in, finally.
She's just been confirmed for:
- BBC Radio 2 Steve Wright Show, today (Monday), 2pm - This Morning, Wednesday
Come on Buntoooooooooon
Posted by: sammy01 25th November 2019, 01:26 PM
One last push to sell tickets and I'm sure the rest will get snapped up by tourists in London on the day.
Posted by: sammy01 25th November 2019, 04:26 PM
Santa baby is on New Music Holiday playlist on Spotify, which probably explains it gaining more than coming home for Christmas.
Posted by: Mr.X 27th November 2019, 12:43 PM
SO we know that Coming Home For Christmas was played on radio this week as Emma was on BBC 2 to introduce it. Do we know if it got any more plays at all?
Posted by: Jay ☆ 29th November 2019, 07:17 AM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 27 2019, 12:43 PM)
SO we know that Coming Home For Christmas was played on radio this week as Emma was on BBC 2 to introduce it. Do we know if it got any more plays at all?
Unfortunately that's the only time they've played it so far!
Spotify update:
15,883 - Coming Home For Christmas 24,511 - Santa Baby
Santa Baby has climbed to 5th in her most popular list, while Coming Home For Christmas is currently 7th.
Posted by: sammy01 29th November 2019, 09:42 AM
Her performance of Santa Baby aired on US TV last night, I expect Santa Baby to end up being the bigger song at this point.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 30th November 2019, 05:01 AM
This video appears to be rehearsal footage? She messed up the lyrics a couple of times!
(watch from 3 minutes 30 seconds)
Here's what was televised, unfortunately it's just a recording of the TV but it's better than nothing:
~~~~
Today's Spotify update:
17,372 - Coming Home For Christmas (+1,489) 26,674 - Santa Baby (+2,163)
Posted by: Mr.X 30th November 2019, 09:31 AM
Thanks Jay. Frankly, those Disney gigs arent my thing at all. I find the whole thing quite sad, but alas here we are lol
Those streaming numbers tho
Posted by: sammy01 30th November 2019, 06:27 PM
I mean I know in the grand scheme of streaming those numbers aren't good but when you think Emma has had 44k listens of Christmas songs before it is actually December it isn't that bad.
I'm sure flogging the remaining tickets and any extra My happy place album sales matter much more.
Posted by: JaneJ 30th November 2019, 10:17 PM
Streaming numbers are not gonna get better for old acts like her unless you're constantly active or immortal like Queen, The Beatles, etc.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd December 2019, 12:16 AM
19,397 - Coming Home For Christmas (+2,025) 32,229 - Santa Baby (+5,555)
Santa Baby moves up to 3rd in her most popular list, but Coming Home for Christmas is stuck at #7.
Posted by: masahiro 2nd December 2019, 03:13 AM
don't worry, those counts are missing my 100,000,000 streaming numbers on apple music.
in reality, I streamed Coming Home For Christmas over 900+ times on apple music since its released. I know its NOTHING to her, but I want support EMMA!
Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd December 2019, 04:20 AM
That puts me to shame, I've only played it 4 times so far! I'm sure I'll play it a whole lot more now it's December.
Posted by: Mr.X 2nd December 2019, 08:32 PM
So I do get it that Emma is doing quite a bit of PR at the moment, which is great.
Although I have been thinking about it and I want to ask a question: is everyone here happy with how her PR is going? Honestly, I think some of it is great of course. She got features in Attitude, interviews on BBC Radio, BBC One Show, etc.
But I cant quite shake the feeling that she is mainly being presented as a celebrity, rather than a singer. As in, yes she does talk about the Spice Girls and her album, and her RAH gig in those interviews. But I kind of hoped she was going more towards better - more music focused publications. I know there arent that many available, but she could do some more left-field stuff. Look at Mel C, she is getting some great press with great profiles in the Guardian, etc.
Emma has the chops to be a really credible pop star. She should focus on that rather than on being this Disney princess/celebrity. Interviews, even online ones where they focus more in depth on her music and how she writes, etc, would be much more interesting.
Don't get me wrong, I love her and I am glad she is still doing music. But I think she could do much better if she actually focused on her music rather than being a celebrity mainly.
Let's hope after the RAH she does refocus that, does another album and more live gigs. Her friends do it all the time, she could do much more too!! Will Young has been touring loads, has performed his Christmas single on various places already (not just TV), etc.
Come onnnnnn Bunton
Posted by: sammy01 2nd December 2019, 09:06 PM
I just think she needs to get some performance slots to show people she has that angel like voice. Easier said than done though, as performance slots are hard to come by and I'm sure BMG don't have huge bargaining power with getting her slots.
She could defo do more radio performances and I'd like to see her go down that Avenue more. Even after the Albert Hall gig she could go to radio stations and sing coming home for Christmas and chat about how amazing doing a solo gig was.
Posted by: Spiceboy 2nd December 2019, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 2 2019, 08:32 PM)
So I do get it that Emma is doing quite a bit of PR at the moment, which is great.
Although I have been thinking about it and I want to ask a question: is everyone here happy with how her PR is going? Honestly, I think some of it is great of course. She got features in Attitude, interviews on BBC Radio, BBC One Show, etc.
But I cant quite shake the feeling that she is mainly being presented as a celebrity, rather than a singer. As in, yes she does talk about the Spice Girls and her album, and her RAH gig in those interviews. But I kind of hoped she was going more towards better - more music focused publications. I know there arent that many available, but she could do some more left-field stuff. Look at Mel C, she is getting some great press with great profiles in the Guardian, etc.
Emma has the chops to be a really credible pop star. She should focus on that rather than on being this Disney princess/celebrity. Interviews, even online ones where they focus more in depth on her music and how she writes, etc, would be much more interesting.
Don't get me wrong, I love her and I am glad she is still doing music. But I think she could do much better if she actually focused on her music rather than being a celebrity mainly.
Let's hope after the RAH she does refocus that, does another album and more live gigs. Her friends do it all the time, she could do much more too!! Will Young has been touring loads, has performed his Christmas single on various places already (not just TV), etc.
Come onnnnnn Bunton
Omg I did not know Will Young had a Christmas single! Going to give this a listen asap!!
Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd December 2019, 10:58 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 2 2019, 12:16 AM)
19,397 - Coming Home For Christmas (+2,025) 32,229 - Santa Baby (+5,555)
Santa Baby moves up to 3rd in her most popular list, but Coming Home for Christmas is stuck at #7.
20,439 - Coming Home For Christmas (+1,042) 36,116 - Santa Baby (+3,887)
Posted by: sammy01 2nd December 2019, 11:30 PM
Santa baby to replace Kylie's version as the go to classic 😂
She is on Loose women this week not sure which day though.
Posted by: Blond 2.0 3rd December 2019, 02:52 PM
Her version of santa baby is the best so far
Posted by: Voodoo 3rd December 2019, 04:14 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 3 2019, 12:58 AM)
20,439 - Coming Home For Christmas (+1,042) 36,116 - Santa Baby (+3,887)
Meanwhile, High Heels has accumulated 315,685 streams.
Posted by: Mr.X 3rd December 2019, 05:59 PM
High Hells actually had a campaign for it, including a video and massive amounts of video and text interviews. Please don't compare the two x
Posted by: sammy01 3rd December 2019, 07:15 PM
High heels also got NMF playlisting, when you consider that it being on 315k after this long is bad.
Posted by: vibe 3rd December 2019, 07:26 PM
Oh please it was so far down on that list 🤣
Emma’s streaming stinks compared to popular spice.
Posted by: December Dong 3rd December 2019, 07:40 PM
Everyone nominate Santa Baby and Emma and Mel C's Sleigh Ride in the lounge christmas songs competition right here on buzzjack!!
Posted by: sammy01 4th December 2019, 08:40 AM
The playlist Emma's Santa Baby is on on Spotify 'New music holiday' has grown a lot. When I first saw it the playlist had 30k likes it has 51.3k likes now. As we get closer to Christmas it should continue to grow and probably explains why Santa Baby is doing better on Spotify and might take off even more as we get closer to Christmas.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 4th December 2019, 08:48 AM
A pity that both songs aren't on that playlist!
22,024 - Coming Home For Christmas (+1,585) 42,203 - Santa Baby (+6,087)
Posted by: sammy01 4th December 2019, 08:59 AM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 4 2019, 08:48 AM)
A pity that both songs aren't on that playlist!
22,024 - Coming Home For Christmas (+1,585) 42,203 - Santa Baby (+6,087)
We love it when you provide stats to demonstrate what I mean. Hopefully by this weekend Santa baby is doing 10k+ a day. At this rate she would be wise pushing Santa Baby after her Royal Albert gig, singing it on radio and getting TV bookings to promote it if she can as she could gain some traction with it. It would help it in the next few years then being added to xmas playlists.
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2019, 09:44 AM
Bunton needs to call the CEO of Spotify URGENTLY and make said CEO playlist her songs on the Christmas lists!!
Posted by: December Dong 4th December 2019, 02:36 PM
She has the third biggest new Xmas song so far after Ellie and Mabel!!
Posted by: December Dong 4th December 2019, 02:45 PM
Also where has Byork's post gone???
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2019, 02:59 PM
QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 4 2019, 02:36 PM)
She has the third biggest new Xmas song so far after Ellie and Mabel!!
Not true... Doesnt Little Mix's new song count?
Posted by: December Dong 4th December 2019, 03:02 PM
No as little sh*ts song has completely flopped and Emma's is doing better, which makes it the THIRD biggest!
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2019, 03:18 PM
QUOTE(December Dong @ Dec 4 2019, 03:02 PM)
No as little sh*ts song has completely flopped and Emma's is doing better, which makes it the THIRD biggest!
Little Mix - One I've Been Missing - 2,855,797 streams Emma Bunton - COming Home For Christmas - 23,000
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2019, 03:19 PM
Emma's song isnt being played on the radio either, not added to any new playlists.... I don't know what else to tell you ah. The only way you can say that is if the song does indeed start to get picked up after this week.
Posted by: December Dong 4th December 2019, 03:19 PM
They're not even in the top400 on spotify, so we can safely say Emma B has won this one x
Posted by: sammy01 4th December 2019, 04:59 PM
The New holiday music playlist Emma has somehow scammed Santa Baby on is gaining likes fast. it has gained 900 likes in 8 hours. She could have somehow ended up on what becomes a fairly big playlist. Streams and likes for the playlist will only keep increasing as Christmas gets nearer.
Posted by: Babyboy 10th December 2019, 01:44 PM
Physical copies are available on Emma store. Just 500 copies.. hurry up.
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2019, 03:06 PM
Sold out in an hour, hopefully another 500 are added asap. Successful queen.
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2019, 03:43 PM
Santa Baby is up to 2nd now on her most popular songs on Spotify, it has done 38k streams the last 7 days.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 10th December 2019, 04:28 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 2 2019, 11:30 PM)
Santa baby to replace Kylie's version as the go to classic 😂
You should be so lucky
(Lucky lucky lucky)
Posted by: Jay ☆ 10th December 2019, 08:55 PM
I managed to get a copy! Hopefully more will be put on sale, quite a few people were left disappointed that they missed out.
Posted by: Spiceboy 10th December 2019, 09:37 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 10 2019, 08:55 PM)
I managed to get a copy! Hopefully more will be put on sale, quite a few people were left disappointed that they missed out.
So jealous
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2019, 09:56 PM
Lucky you indeed and well done. I only saw the email like 1h after I got it and when I tried to get it, it was already sold out :/ Apparently Chris is trying to get more done. Let's hope this isn't a Free Me Vinyl situation (only 500 printed, which now go for like £900 on ebay!)...
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2019, 10:01 PM
Sold out queen
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2019, 10:03 PM
Apparently it sold out in less than 1hour, which is a bit wild considering there was no promo or info out on it other than the Spice Circle and the email sign up.
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2019, 10:30 PM
There are still a lot of fans on spice circle and here etc who didn't manage to get a copy. Another 500 would sell put pretty quickly I'd think.
Posted by: Spiceboy 10th December 2019, 10:31 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 10 2019, 09:56 PM)
Lucky you indeed and well done. I only saw the email like 1h after I got it and when I tried to get it, it was already sold out :/ Apparently Chris is trying to get more done. Let's hope this isn't a Free Me Vinyl situation (only 500 printed, which now go for like £900 on ebay!)...
They sell for WHAT? I have two of those vinyl's and I've already promised one to somebody for a very reasonable price I happen to know they have a Coming home for Christmas maybe I should barter
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2019, 10:39 PM
QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Dec 10 2019, 10:31 PM)
They sell for WHAT? I have two of those vinyl's and I've already promised one to somebody for a very reasonable price I happen to know they have a Coming home for Christmas maybe I should barter
NNNOOOOOOOO GIVE IT TOO MEEEEE I will pay good money and do sexual favours
No jokes though: the vinyl has gone on sale before for ridiculous amounts before. The lastest I saw it going online was for like £600, but early this year there was one on discogs that was going for over £900 lol
Posted by: Jay ☆ 11th December 2019, 05:18 AM
QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Dec 10 2019, 10:31 PM)
They sell for WHAT? I have two of those vinyl's and I've already promised one to somebody for a very reasonable price I happen to know they have a Coming home for Christmas maybe I should barter
I’m kind of surprised that none of the labels the solo Spice Girls were associated with have considered printing solo albums on vinyl. There’s certainly a market for them, particularly the fan favourites like Free Me... it really deserves a reissue!
Posted by: Spiceboy 11th December 2019, 04:48 PM
The programme / single is up again on the site another 500 copies, I believe there is less than 90 left.
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 11 2019, 05:18 AM)
I’m kind of surprised that none of the labels the solo Spice Girls were associated with have considered printing solo albums on vinyl. There’s certainly a market for them, particularly the fan favourites like Free Me... it really deserves a reissue!
It's probably to do with the fact that none of them are associated with the labels anymore. I do agree that if Emma was to do a Free Me vinyl re-issue with Universal, of say 2000 copies, it would sell out... Just that it might not be so cost effective specially for an act that they don't work with anymore...
I dont think Virgin/EMI would ever bother with a Northern Star, A Girl LIke Me, Schizophonic, Hot or VB vinyl to be honest, specially as each girl left the record company as solo artists not in the most amicable of terms ah
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 05:04 PM
Finally got one!!!
Posted by: tommie 11th December 2019, 05:11 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 11 2019, 06:04 PM)
It's probably to do with the fact that none of them are associated with the labels anymore. I do agree that if Emma was to do a Free Me vinyl re-issue with Universal, of say 2000 copies, it would sell out... Just that it might not be so cost effective specially for an act that they don't work with anymore...
Exactly. The reason why record labels re-print albums on vinyl isn't because of the very marginal profit it generates - it's because it's good promo for the artists backcatalog which makes them turn further profit beyond the vinyl printing. Emma really generates no profit as it is on her solo catalog and a Free Me vinyl wouldn't turn that around.
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 05:56 PM
Yeah true. Having said that, if they were to sell them just via a limited edition/online only via Emma's store, it would probably still sell out and reduce costs/make some cash but probably not seen as 'worth' spending time on..
Gosh, I really hate capitalism precisely for this reason lol
Posted by: vibe 11th December 2019, 08:06 PM
Changing the cover will make the collectors also want the new item. These will be all over eBay . Luckily I only collect Melanie C items
Posted by: Jay ☆ 11th December 2019, 08:10 PM
I'm not too happy about the new artwork. It's now a picture of her on stage at the Royal Albert Hall, rather than the original with the Coming Home for Christmas single image. That goes for the 500 copies sold yesterday (which had the original artwork showing when it was on sale), and the 500 sold today.
I feel like this change has turned it into quite a random looking product. After all, it's no longer the same as what was sold at the venue... and that's what most fans wanted surely, a replica of what was sold there on the night. With the new image, it's now lost the visual association with it being a Coming Home for Christmas CD. It now gives the appearance of being a Live CD actually, rather than a CHFC CD single that doubled up as a program sold at the Royal Albert Hall. Also, the fact that this new version was obviously never sold at the Royal Albert Hall in this form, yet it's being sold as if it was the tour programme... which would be impossible, because the picture is from the night of the event... I don't know, I just find that to be a bit odd!
In my opinion it's also a little iffy that the first 500 copies were sold with the original artwork depicted, and then a day after they were sold, they suddenly reveal that those 500 actually have different artwork. To me it means those sales were achieved in a misrepresented way.
Apparently the artwork had to be redesigned because of rights issues (which seems strange to me, why would BMG have issues with their own artwork?). It makes me wish that they'd just abandoned the association with The Royal Albert Hall for this new product and just had a cover that represents what the item really is - a CD single of Coming Home for Christmas and Santa Baby.
Ahh, I know I shouldn't over think it. I am happy we have a CD single. But I'll find it hard to shake off the niggling feeling that I would have much preferred the original version, and it's incredibly annoying that there's only 96 copies of that version in existence. If any of those are sold, they'll be gold dust. I know I'll never own one. I'll always find the decision to print just 96 to be incredibly bizarre... like, why? Why not cater to demand with that version? Argh!!
I do appreciate the effort from her team, but this is messier than it should have been. If there'd been 1000 copies of the original version, I think everyone would have been really happy with that.
Rant over...
Posted by: Spiceboy 11th December 2019, 08:50 PM
Agree with every word Jay.
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 08:50 PM
Yeah the change of artwork was MESSY! Im not too fussed as it was never a cd single in the first place, and it looks like it will now just be more of a celebration of the Royal Albert Hall gig instead, like a programme with a CD with it, but also some pictures from the evening.
Personally I dont mind it, though I can see why some fans might not be super happy ah.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 11th December 2019, 09:47 PM
I wonder if some of the people buying this item will actually expect it to include recordings from the Royal Albert Hall? The description of it in the listing is kind of vague and potentially misleading...
QUOTE
Emma Bunton Royal Albert Hall CD Programme CD £10.00 Release Date: 13/12/2019
Discs: 1
Contains 4 pages of photos, setlist information and costume designs from Emma's recent live show at The Royal Albert Hall.
Coming Home For Christmas Santa Baby
I mean sure, it states the two tracks included at the end, but it doesn't implicitly state that they're actually studio recordings.
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 09:50 PM
Yeah agree it is a bit weird. I understand they wanted it to be more of a gift about the RAH attendance/show. But they should have just framed it as a CD AND then did a booklet or programme about the show itself. Both would sell out around 2000 copies easily ah
Posted by: sammy01 11th December 2019, 10:01 PM
So much demand for the Bunton 😍
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 10:13 PM
She is certainly in demand (within the very close group of Spice Girls fans that even knew about this)
Posted by: tommie 11th December 2019, 10:16 PM
If they changed the artwork, surely that means they haven't printed these yet? It means they could potentially just put up 500 at a time until they sell out.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 11th December 2019, 10:26 PM
QUOTE(tommie @ Dec 11 2019, 10:16 PM)
If they changed the artwork, surely that means they haven't printed these yet? It means they could potentially just put up 500 at a time until they sell out.
Apparently the CDs were printed yesterday (so this new artwork must have been planned, designed & ready to go *before* the pre-order listing went live which showed the old artwork :/ ... mess)
Posted by: Spiceboy 11th December 2019, 10:47 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 11 2019, 08:50 PM)
Yeah the change of artwork was MESSY! Im not too fussed as it was never a cd single in the first place, and it looks like it will now just be more of a celebration of the Royal Albert Hall gig instead, like a programme with a CD with it, but also some pictures from the evening.
Personally I dont mind it, though I can see why some fans might not be super happy ah.
I kinda like the fact it's a celebration of the Royal Albert Hall gig, but now I want that one and the other one!!! (Such a spoilt brat I know )
Posted by: sammy01 11th December 2019, 11:15 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 11 2019, 10:13 PM)
She is certainly in demand (within the very close group of Spice Girls fans that even knew about this)
Imagine if the greater public knew, the new Adele.
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 11:32 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 11 2019, 11:15 PM)
Imagine if the greater public knew, the new Adele.
I know. Bunton is just letting other artists have the spotlight. A humble queen
Posted by: Spiceboy 11th December 2019, 11:46 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 10 2019, 10:39 PM)
NNNOOOOOOOO GIVE IT TOO MEEEEE I will pay good money and do sexual favours
Somebody has shown me your Facebook profile and I could be persuaded...
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 11:49 PM
I have to say that watching the meltdown of the fans on Spice Circle has been quite something tbh
Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 11:51 PM
QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Dec 11 2019, 11:46 PM)
Somebody has shown me your Facebook profile and I could be persuaded...
My body is ready
Posted by: Jay ☆ 12th December 2019, 12:29 AM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 11 2019, 11:49 PM)
I have to say that watching the meltdown of the fans on Spice Circle has been quite something tbh
Emma’s impact!
Posted by: tommie 12th December 2019, 08:27 AM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 11 2019, 11:26 PM)
Apparently the CDs were printed yesterday (so this new artwork must have been planned, designed & ready to go *before* the pre-order listing went live which showed the old artwork :/ ... mess)
LOL, they couldn't delay them until Friday so that they could get a few more rounds of pre-orders? Mess.
Posted by: masahiro 13th December 2019, 12:32 AM
I missed both times! argh! It was midnight time in Japan. waitng for re-selling, but I'm afraid to sleep everynight...
when I all fall asleep,where do I go? HELL.
*Keep typing F5 key on Soldout page every minute*
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Posted by: sammy01 13th December 2019, 11:23 PM
I thought it was lyrics to a new song 😂
Posted by: Mr.X 14th December 2019, 12:46 AM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 13 2019, 11:23 PM)
I thought it was lyrics to a new song 😂
Well you know she would sing it beautifully anyway
Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th December 2019, 03:44 PM
Finally, a follow up to Take Me to Another Town ( )
Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th December 2019, 06:04 PM
By the way, I received the CD this morning!
Posted by: tommie 14th December 2019, 08:32 PM
So, is there a streaming update for this? Is it catching up with Mel C's High Heels yet?
Posted by: sammy01 14th December 2019, 09:06 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 14 2019, 12:46 AM)
Well you know she would sing it beautifully anyway
Well they are better lyrics than High Heels 🙈
Posted by: Mr.X 21st December 2019, 05:19 PM
Emma posted an Instagram video of Coming Home for Christmas, made out basically of backstage and footage from the Royal Albert Hall gig. It's cute...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6VoOgylMH7/
Posted by: sammy01 21st December 2019, 07:51 PM
Told you it was filmed backstage and bits of the gig. I think it is more a promo tool to secure Emma a Royal Albert Hall xmas gig 2020 than anything else.
Posted by: JaneJ 21st December 2019, 07:55 PM
If there is no DVD then put it on Youtube, Baby.
Posted by: Spiceboy 21st December 2019, 08:14 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 21 2019, 07:51 PM)
Told you it was filmed backstage and bits of the gig. I think it is more a promo tool to secure Emma a Royal Albert Hall xmas gig 2020 than anything else.
Do you really think it will be an annual thing? They have a lot of Christmas concerts and they are not annual are they?
Posted by: sammy01 21st December 2019, 08:39 PM
QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Dec 21 2019, 08:14 PM)
Do you really think it will be an annual thing? They have a lot of Christmas concerts and they are not annual are they?
If successful they can be invited back the next year, like Kylie was. It is evident that is what Emma is pushing for, all her social media posts are 'let's make it an annual thing' 'would love to do it again' etc. Ultimately it is down to the Royal Albert Hall but I'm sure Emma would do it in a heartbeat.
A full xmas album release would certainly help her prospects for next year.
Posted by: Jay ☆ 21st December 2019, 09:43 PM
Yeah I definitely think she'd need to go down the Christmas album route to secure a second show there.
Posted by: Spiceboy 21st December 2019, 11:34 PM
QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 21 2019, 09:43 PM)
Yeah I definitely think she'd need to go down the Christmas album route to secure a second show there.
My Happy Christmas
Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd December 2019, 12:08 AM
QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Dec 21 2019, 11:34 PM)
My Happy Christmas
It just has to be called this *.*
Posted by: Jay* 15th November 2020, 07:28 PM
This was released 1 year ago!
Looking forward to hearing these again (mid-November is still too early for me to feel like playing Christmas music)
Posted by: spiceboy 15th November 2020, 07:42 PM
I do wonder if there was any intention for her to do a second show with a Christmas album this year? Obviously that has gone out of the window, hope she does it next year if so as I greatly enjoyed it last year, was so wonderful
Posted by: Mr.X 15th November 2020, 08:07 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Nov 15 2020, 08:42 PM)
I do wonder if there was any intention for her to do a second show with a Christmas album this year? Obviously that has gone out of the window, hope she does it next year if so as I greatly enjoyed it last year, was so wonderful
Nooooooooooooooo No more Karaoke Spice please! She needs to remember she is FLAWLESS SPICE ffs and get her shit together and do a proper album and tour. It's literally what she is good at, come on!! If she still wants to do a christmas show then, FINE whatever. I certainly wont waste another 60quid on that type of show, it was a total rip off
Posted by: sammy01 15th November 2020, 08:11 PM
Album of originals and a tour next please.
Posted by: spiceboy 15th November 2020, 08:45 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 15 2020, 08:07 PM)
Nooooooooooooooo No more Karaoke Spice please! She needs to remember she is FLAWLESS SPICE ffs and get her shit together and do a proper album and tour. It's literally what she is good at, come on!! If she still wants to do a christmas show then, FINE whatever. I certainly wont waste another 60quid on that type of show, it was a total rip off
Oh don't get me wrong I'd much rather an original album over another covers one any day... she is a bit lazy though so I can see her going for minimum effort again
I would have liked her to have released a Christmas album to tie in with the Gig, even if just on her website at the time. She clearly recorded the tracks for backing vocals so she could easily have just whacked them onto an album and called it "My Happy Christmas" to tie in with the Happy Place era.
Posted by: spiceboy 15th November 2020, 08:47 PM
Actually where did her Emma is lazy at promo reputation come from exactly? I was just teasing in my post.
Posted by: Mr.X 15th November 2020, 09:18 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Nov 15 2020, 09:47 PM)
Actually where did her Emma is lazy at promo reputation come from exactly? I was just teasing in my post.
I think it came when she went on holiday right in the middle of the Free Me album launch week or something like that lol she actually does hussle quite a bit, but she did do some questionable choices.
Also the Life in Mono promo was non existent besides her being on Strictly and then after Christmas was done (and the album flopping), she went on a really shit promo week for her next single and called it a day.
But she has also admited to be a bit lazy herself lol
Posted by: spiceboy 15th November 2020, 09:33 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 15 2020, 09:18 PM)
I think it came when she went on holiday right in the middle of the Free Me album launch week or something like that lol she actually does hussle quite a bit, but she did do some questionable choices.
Also the Life in Mono promo was non existent besides her being on Strictly and then after Christmas was done (and the album flopping), she went on a really shit promo week for her next single and called it a day.
But she has also admited to be a bit lazy herself lol
Oh yeah for All I need to know didn't she do like one appearance on Loose Woman or something and that was it?
Posted by: Mr.X 16th November 2020, 12:22 AM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Nov 15 2020, 10:33 PM)
Oh yeah for All I need to know didn't she do like one appearance on Loose Woman or something and that was it?
Pretty much. She also was supposed to do a radio tour but pulled out last min.
Posted by: sammy01 1st December 2020, 05:34 PM
Emma has created a Spotify playlists of 20 Christmas songs, which includes her 2, 3 spice girls and 15 other classics.
Cute. I noticed her monthly listeners went up to over 200,000 for the first time since last year so maybe the Christmas songs are being taken up on the lead up to Christmas. I really hope she would get better playlisted with her two songs tbh.
Posted by: Spice Girls Net 1st December 2020, 06:11 PM
Just seen Emma’s story and was going to post it on here.
Nice that she’s included 2B1, Goodbye, Christmas Wrapping and Coming Home For Christmas.
Hopefully with over 1 million followers on Instagram let’s hope the songs get some streams
Posted by: vibe 1st December 2020, 06:24 PM
CHFC is so dull .
Posted by: sammy01 1st December 2020, 06:29 PM
It's a great playlist, 15 classics and the 5 spice girls songs. I think I've found my Christmas playlist
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2020, 09:51 AM
Santa Baby has shoot up her Top 10 on Spotify to get to #4
Is it in any playlists at all? I dont know how to search for that...
Anyway, would be good if Bunton has a regular Christmas pick me up but knowing our luck, it will never happen
Posted by: tommie 4th December 2020, 09:56 AM
Between Eartha and Kylie's version of Santa Baby I don't see Emma's version getting much spins. I assume she just have very low streaming numbers for it to sneak up to #4.
Posted by: sammy01 4th December 2020, 10:45 AM
It was a good idea to chuck those 2 Christmas songs out last year. Her Spotify listeners is creeping up as we get closer to Christmas. They probably cost £5 to make too with no videos.
BMG are probably laughing any way it is those 2 xmas songs that were on the £10 a pop Royal Albert Hall single that ended up selling 1.1k copies.
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2020, 11:28 AM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 4 2020, 10:45 AM)
It was a good idea to chuck those 2 Christmas songs out last year. Her Spotify listeners is creeping up as we get closer to Christmas. They probably cost £5 to make too with no videos.
BMG are probably laughing any way it is those 2 xmas songs that were on the £10 a pop Royal Albert Hall single that ended up selling 1.1k copies.
I seriously doubt BMG is doing much about it at all... It never got playlisted last year which was a shame, and I seriously doubt it will this year too...
Emma's streaming numbers just arent good enough. She has 200,000 regular listeners which is so bad for a recording artist of her stature. Like, I get it she is no Kylie, but maybe if she had done a different song that someone like Kylie wasnt so popular with, maybe it would have picked up much more... Plus, she sounds awful in it. I know she plays the whole sweet innocent Baby Spice in these records, but it's a bit toooooo much like a baby, imo...
I could image her doing a version of Oh Santa or the I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday. That would be at least a bit more fun.
ANYWAY!
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2020, 11:29 AM
QUOTE(tommie @ Dec 4 2020, 09:56 AM)
Between Eartha and Kylie's version of Santa Baby I don't see Emma's version getting much spins. I assume she just have very low streaming numbers for it to sneak up to #4.
I mean, yeah her streaming numbers are piss poor. Coming Home For Christmas doesnt even have 100,000 streams yet, or a bridge for that matter
Posted by: sammy01 4th December 2020, 12:22 PM
Her streaming numbers will always be shit when half her discography isn't available to stream in most of the world.
Posted by: Mr.X 4th December 2020, 12:32 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 4 2020, 12:22 PM)
Her streaming numbers will always be shit when half her discography isn't available to stream in most of the world.
This is correct! She really needs to get that sorted and promote it properly. She deserves to be at least on the level of Gerita and Melanie when it comes to streaming!
Posted by: spiceboy 4th December 2020, 03:22 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 4 2020, 11:28 AM)
I seriously doubt BMG is doing much about it at all... It never got playlisted last year which was a shame, and I seriously doubt it will this year too...
Emma's streaming numbers just arent good enough. She has 200,000 regular listeners which is so bad for a recording artist of her stature. Like, I get it she is no Kylie, but maybe if she had done a different song that someone like Kylie wasnt so popular with, maybe it would have picked up much more... Plus, she sounds awful in it. I know she plays the whole sweet innocent Baby Spice in these records, but it's a bit toooooo much like a baby, imo...
I could image her doing a version of Oh Santa or the I Wish It Could Be Christmas Everyday. That would be at least a bit more fun.
ANYWAY!
I don't like either her version of Santa Baby or Coming home for Christmas, however I did like a lot of her covers during her Royal Albert Hall concert and did wonder why she decided on Santa Baby when Kylie clearly has the monopoly on the modern version of that song. Winter Wonderland sounded lovely by her and there are no popular modern takes on it, maybe that could have been picked up more as a well known song but not fighting against the likes of Kylie or Michael Buble (as I also adored her version of Santa Clause is coming to town).
Posted by: sammy01 4th December 2020, 04:05 PM
There is always next Christmas for that Bunton xmas album
Posted by: spiceboy 4th December 2020, 07:08 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 4 2020, 04:05 PM)
There is always next Christmas for that Bunton xmas album
I'd actually totally be here for that. I think she has the perfect voice for a lot of Christmas songs really sweet and melodic. She should do a Phil Spector style Christmas album with the old classics that would really suit her and hark back to her Free Me / Life in Mono 60's style. Couple it with another show at the Royal Alert Hall I'll be eating it out of the palm of her hands 'My Happy Christmas'
Posted by: tommie 4th December 2020, 08:58 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Dec 4 2020, 08:08 PM)
I'd actually totally be here for that. I think she has the perfect voice for a lot of Christmas songs really sweet and melodic. She should do a Phil Spector style Christmas album with the old classics that would really suit her and hark back to her Free Me / Life in Mono 60's style. Couple it with another show at the Royal Alert Hall I'll be eating it out of the palm of her hands 'My Happy Christmas'
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if that was the plan if My Happy Place had been more successful - re-release with a second cd of Christmas songs. It wouldn't surprise me if Coming Home For Christmas and Santa Baby were left-overs from that idea.
Posted by: sammy01 4th December 2020, 09:32 PM
QUOTE(tommie @ Dec 4 2020, 08:58 PM)
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if that was the plan if My Happy Place had been more successful - re-release with a second cd of Christmas songs. It wouldn't surprise me if Coming Home For Christmas and Santa Baby were left-overs from that idea.
They weren't and it wasn't. They were rush cheap records so she would have something out to coincide with her Royal Albert Hall gig.
Theyou were the only 2 Christmas songs she recorded.
Posted by: Mr.X 5th December 2020, 11:34 AM
QUOTE(tommie @ Dec 4 2020, 08:58 PM)
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if that was the plan if My Happy Place had been more successful - re-release with a second cd of Christmas songs. It wouldn't surprise me if Coming Home For Christmas and Santa Baby were left-overs from that idea.
She said she recorded CHFC and SB in the summer 2019 for this release only.
Posted by: Mr.X 5th December 2020, 11:35 AM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Dec 4 2020, 03:22 PM)
I don't like either her version of Santa Baby or Coming home for Christmas, however I did like a lot of her covers during her Royal Albert Hall concert and did wonder why she decided on Santa Baby when Kylie clearly has the monopoly on the modern version of that song. Winter Wonderland sounded lovely by her and there are no popular modern takes on it, maybe that could have been picked up more as a well known song but not fighting against the likes of Kylie or Michael Buble (as I also adored her version of Santa Clause is coming to town).
This. Santa Baby was clearly her attempting to cash in on the whole 'Im Baby Spice so I will record this song with Baby in the title' which by now is a bit too tired a concept after she played with it a bit too on Baby Please Dont Stop and Dont Call Me Baby
It is a bit lame she recorded that one when there are so many other songs out there she could have done a nice take on.
Posted by: Mr.X 5th December 2020, 11:36 AM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 4 2020, 04:05 PM)
There is always next Christmas for that Bunton xmas album
NO
We deserve good things, not more pish covers.
Posted by: Mr.X 7th December 2020, 07:29 PM
OK Santa Baby was on 120k streams last week and is now on almot 200k, so it definitely got playlisted as its the biggest jump so far...
But I cant find the playlist it is on...
Posted by: Voodoo 7th December 2020, 08:09 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 7 2020, 09:29 PM)
OK Santa Baby was on 120k streams last week and is now on almot 200k, so it definitely got playlisted as its the biggest jump so far...
But I cant find the playlist it is on...
It's Cozy Christmas Pop.
Posted by: sammy01 7th December 2020, 08:30 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 7 2020, 07:29 PM)
OK Santa Baby was on 120k streams last week and is now on almot 200k, so it definitely got playlisted as its the biggest jump so far...
The more likes it getseems the more prominent and promoted the playlist will become on Spotify.
Those 2 Christmas songs will end up being nice little sellers for Emma in a few years.
Posted by: Spice Girls Net 8th December 2020, 08:31 PM
Since yesterday each song has increased ever so slightly on Spotify
Santa Baby - 2,247 (Track crossed the 200k mark) Coming Home For Christmas - 301
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2020, 12:22 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 7 2020, 08:30 PM)
Those 2 Christmas songs will end up being nice little sellers for Emma in a few years.
QUOTE(Spice Girls Net @ Dec 8 2020, 08:31 PM)
Since yesterday each song has increased ever so slightly on Spotify
Santa Baby - 2,247 (Track crossed the 200k mark) Coming Home For Christmas - 301
Unfortunately, I dont think it will do much without playlist and radio support, which I asume is having close to none. That playlist has only like 7000 likes in it, so it will hardly generate any sufficient streams.
Last night, I was reading this article on how writers of music are getting paid really badly for streams and thought of this. Like, some writers on Kylie's latest #1 album Disco got paid just £200 as the streams income is so poor, and that is a dire indication of where things are at...
Emma most probably didnt get any money from this release, I just hope that BMG have some plans for her in the future.
Here's the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55232418
Posted by: tommie 10th December 2020, 03:25 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 10 2020, 01:22 PM)
Unfortunately, I dont think it will do much without playlist and radio support, which I asume is having close to none. That playlist has only like 7000 likes in it, so it will hardly generate any sufficient streams.
Last night, I was reading this article on how writers of music are getting paid really badly for streams and thought of this. Like, some writers on Kylie's latest #1 album Disco got paid just £200 as the streams income is so poor, and that is a dire indication of where things are at...
Sadly, that has been the case since the physical started dying out and just accelerated once when streaming happened. I know when streaming started killing other formats in Sweden, singer/songwriters (Per Gessle among others) were in uproar because of the poor pay they got for streams. But you can't really stop evolution - try to convince a 15 year old that they're going to have to waste space on an *.AAC-file.
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2020, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 10 2020, 12:22 PM)
Unfortunately, I dont think it will do much without playlist and radio support, which I asume is having close to none. That playlist has only like 7000 likes in it, so it will hardly generate any sufficient streams.
Last night, I was reading this article on how writers of music are getting paid really badly for streams and thought of this. Like, some writers on Kylie's latest #1 album Disco got paid just £200 as the streams income is so poor, and that is a dire indication of where things are at...
Emma most probably didnt get any money from this release, I just hope that BMG have some plans for her in the future.
Here's the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55232418
I'll have a read when I get chance but she must have signed an awful deal to only get £200. Streams or not Kylie did over 50k physicals and downloads first week in the UK alone. A lot of those expensive vinyls.
A lot of money is still being earned from Kylie's music (BMG have put out 3 albums from her in pretty quick succession) so if that song writer is getting so little it is more that the profits are going elsewhere.
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2020, 03:59 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 10 2020, 03:33 PM)
I'll have a read when I get chance but she must have signed an awful deal to only get £200. Streams or not Kylie did over 50k physicals and downloads first week in the UK alone. A lot of those expensive vinyls.
A lot of money is still being earned from Kylie's music (BMG have put out 3 albums from her in pretty quick succession) so if that song writer is getting so little it is more that the profits are going elsewhere.
I was just giving an example cos the article expands on it. The £200 come from streams only, from what I understand. But it does remind me of how bad contracts are across the arts sector, to be honest.
And yes, streaming is the future and the present already BUT it shouldnt mean that people shouldnt be paid properly for them. New ways of payment need to be changed, as at the moment only top selling artists get any money from making music and that is not ok...
Posted by: spiceboy 10th December 2020, 04:43 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 10 2020, 03:33 PM)
I'll have a read when I get chance but she must have signed an awful deal to only get £200. Streams or not Kylie did over 50k physicals and downloads first week in the UK alone. A lot of those expensive vinyls.
A lot of money is still being earned from Kylie's music (BMG have put out 3 albums from her in pretty quick succession) so if that song writer is getting so little it is more that the profits are going elsewhere.
The article is saying that record labels are keeping the majority of profits from streaming sales and not distributing it amongst songwriters and singers. I also question how many people were co-writing on that song as sometimes there are like 10 co-writers and having 1 song on an album with that many co-writers on it you're going to get even less.
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2020, 05:02 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Dec 10 2020, 04:43 PM)
The article is saying that record labels are keeping the majority of profits from streaming sales and not distributing it amongst songwriters and singers. I also question how many people were co-writing on that song as sometimes there are like 10 co-writers and having 1 song on an album with that many co-writers on it you're going to get even less.
Not to mention if it is 1 album track it's hardly going to be pulling in big streaming numbers especially on a Kylie album.
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2020, 06:41 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Dec 10 2020, 04:43 PM)
The article is saying that record labels are keeping the majority of profits from streaming sales and not distributing it amongst songwriters and singers. I also question how many people were co-writing on that song as sometimes there are like 10 co-writers and having 1 song on an album with that many co-writers on it you're going to get even less.
There are NDAs between record companies and streaming services, meaning that neither do the artists know nor do we know how much streaming equals income. But it seems to me that yet again the artists involved (not just the lead artists but all creatives) are being shat on.
Streaming equalled a massive loss of income but it doesnt really have to be that way and streaming services as well rich so they could afford to pay better to the artists involved. Also, most lead artists (not writers or producers) on record labels now are on 360-deals, meaning that they get a salary with some extra stuff and nothing else, whilst record labels keep all the profits from everything including touring and sponsorships. It's not like before when artists would get huge lump sums of money in advance and then get would also get part of the profits - or if it is, it is much more reduced than it used to be.
The industry really needs to change, specially in a post-COVID world where most artists ability to make ends meet has been drastically reduced.
ANYWAY the point that I was making is that these two songs will never be nice little earners for Emma, when they flopped and are not really taken up on streaming at all...
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2020, 07:24 PM
I never said earners I said sellers, they will get a nice boost every year and every year Emma will promote them on social media like she has done this year.
Posted by: spiceboy 10th December 2020, 07:44 PM
QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 10 2020, 06:41 PM)
There are NDAs between record companies and streaming services, meaning that neither do the artists know nor do we know how much streaming equals income. But it seems to me that yet again the artists involved (not just the lead artists but all creatives) are being shat on.
Streaming equalled a massive loss of income but it doesnt really have to be that way and streaming services as well rich so they could afford to pay better to the artists involved. Also, most lead artists (not writers or producers) on record labels now are on 360-deals, meaning that they get a salary with some extra stuff and nothing else, whilst record labels keep all the profits from everything including touring and sponsorships. It's not like before when artists would get huge lump sums of money in advance and then get would also get part of the profits - or if it is, it is much more reduced than it used to be.
The industry really needs to change, specially in a post-COVID world where most artists ability to make ends meet has been drastically reduced.
ANYWAY the point that I was making is that these two songs will never be nice little earners for Emma, when they flopped and are not really taken up on streaming at all...
Oh I'm not disagreeing with you, I was simply questioning how much a songwriter on one album track from an album. Also it's very strange if she only earned "200 when the majority of Kylies are physicals, which made me wonder how many have co-written on the song as sometimes it is ridiculous.
I also don't think either will be nice sellers they will be eclipsed by superior Christmas songs. I mean last year CHFC sold 620 copies and that's not just streams as it was also released to download platforms like iTunes etc. Santa Baby did even worse with 155 copies. At this rate it will take her 10 years to get to 6k copies... That's unless she releases a new physical bundle every year in which case it will be a lovely seller
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2020, 08:49 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 10 2020, 07:24 PM)
I never said earners I said sellers, they will get a nice boost every year and every year Emma will promote them on social media like she has done this year.
I get what you are saying and I wish that was a thing but in reality that wont do much at all 👇🏼
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Dec 10 2020, 07:44 PM)
I also don't think either will be nice sellers they will be eclipsed by superior Christmas songs. I mean last year CHFC sold 620 copies and that's not just streams as it was also released to download platforms like iTunes etc. Santa Baby did even worse with 155 copies. At this rate it will take her 10 years to get to 6k copies... That's unless she releases a new physical bundle every year in which case it will be a lovely seller
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2020, 09:05 PM
It only needs to be put on one decent Christmas playlist one year to be a massive success (solo Spice girls standard wise) I'm sure that's why every man and his dog has released a Christmas song in the last 3 or 4 years.
I mean Kylie's Santa Baby was just a b-side.
Posted by: tommie 10th December 2020, 10:31 PM
Emma's Santa Baby is probably never going to do much due to Kylie already having a recording of it. They're in the same age bracket and target demographic, so Kylie's will always win out there. If Emma had been 20 years younger, then maybe her Santa Baby could do something.
Coming Home For Christmas is just dull.
Posted by: Mr.X 10th December 2020, 11:53 PM
QUOTE(tommie @ Dec 10 2020, 10:31 PM)
Emma's Santa Baby is probably never going to do much due to Kylie already having a recording of it. They're in the same age bracket and target demographic, so Kylie's will always win out there. If Emma had been 20 years younger, then maybe her Santa Baby could do something.
Coming Home For Christmas is just dull.
The truth.
Posted by: sammy01 10th December 2020, 11:54 PM
I agree she definitely should have picked an old forgotten classic Christmas song or one that hasn't got a modern version.
Posted by: Jay* 14th December 2020, 10:25 AM
I actually really like Coming Home for Christmas! It's sweet. The last chorus with the extra bells is very festive
I do agree that her cover should have been a more inspired choice than Santa Baby. Honestly it's not one of my favourite Christmas songs whoever performs it.
Posted by: sammy01 15th December 2020, 09:08 PM
Cozy Christmas pop playlist that Santa Baby is on is up to 10k likes now (it was at 7k 8 days ago) and her monthly listeners are up to 211k highest I've seen them.
Just shows what playlisting does.
Posted by: Mr.X 15th December 2020, 09:45 PM
True, even in the My Happy Place era, she never really went much beyond exactly 200k as she never got any playlisting.
More playlisting please 🙏🏼
Posted by: sammy01 15th December 2020, 10:14 PM
One of the worst songs on My happy place (come away with me) is on a chill covers playlist with a fair amount of likes and is now the 2nd most played song from it iirc. Depressing it is that song but just shows how playlists dictate popularity because no one would be seeking out Come away with me over most of her other material.
Posted by: Spice Girls Net 15th December 2020, 11:05 PM
Getting added to playlists is great but unless the right songs are chosen like you say Sammy it goes to show people just play what's in front of them just because it's there.
Posted by: sammy01 17th December 2020, 05:48 PM
Over 213k listeners now, cozy Christmas playlist keeps growing 11.5k likes now helping Emma.
Posted by: Jay❄ 23rd December 2020, 12:09 PM
221,678 monthly listeners for Emma on Spotify
Santa Baby third in her popular 10 songs, with 246,202 total streams Coming Home for Christmas is ninth, 75,023 total streams
Emma's Favourite Christmas Songs playlist only has 253 followers https://open.spotify.com/playlist/73SaDH34ncwEa6FaGBiV8W?si=3MjanIBlRM25o2NfdL-Myg
Posted by: Mr.X 23rd December 2020, 12:10 PM
Well at least CHFC is picking up a few streams lol
Posted by: sammy01 23rd December 2020, 07:37 PM
Nice little bump in streaming for Emma thanks to the Christmas songs up to 224,348 listeners now.
Posted by: spiceboy 23rd December 2020, 09:05 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 23 2020, 07:37 PM)
Nice little bump in streaming for Emma thanks to the Christmas songs up to 224,348 listeners now.
If this was any other girl you would be saying how bad their streaming is.
Posted by: sammy01 23rd December 2020, 09:26 PM
QUOTE(spiceboy @ Dec 23 2020, 09:05 PM)
If this was any other girl you would be saying how bad their streaming is.
It's terrible numbers but hey Mel C stans can celebrate her selling 47 downloads
Posted by: Voodoo 23rd December 2020, 10:10 PM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 23 2020, 11:26 PM)
It's terrible numbers but hey Mel C stans can celebrate her selling 47 downloads
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 23 2020, 10:24 PM)
2 become 1 up to #380 on Apple Music.
Posted by: sammy01 23rd December 2020, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(Voodoo @ Dec 23 2020, 10:10 PM)
#380 on Apple music is very good, especially for a 24 year old song that's already got 1.3m sales.
Where is Into you on Apple music btw?
Posted by: spiceboy 24th December 2020, 09:48 AM
Whoa hold on hold on I was t attacking i genuinely found it funny let’s not start a war! Any more comments I’m deleting them including my own!
Posted by: sammy01 26th December 2020, 06:03 PM
235,899 listeners on Spotify. She was at 191k at the start of December.
Posted by: Spice Girls Net 26th December 2020, 06:08 PM
Quite a few songs have passed big milestones for her. 3m for Take My Breath Away and 2m for What I Am
Posted by: sammy01 22nd November 2022, 08:18 PM
And so it starts, Santa Baby has returned to her top 10 most popular songs on Spotify at #10. I'm sure it will rise over the next few weeks.
Posted by: Mr.X 23rd November 2022, 12:09 PM
I wish she would push Coming Home for Christmas more, even though I don't particularly love it (the lack of a bridge is so apparent!)
But the record company should be pushing it on Christmas Playlists. Santa Baby has over 600,000 streams, whereas Coming Home for Christmas is just over 120,000....
Posted by: sammy01 7th December 2022, 12:31 AM
Santa Baby up to #5 on Emma's top 10 most popular songs on Spotify.
Posted by: tommie 7th December 2022, 03:57 AM
QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 7 2022, 01:31 AM)
Santa Baby up to #5 on Emma's top 10 most popular songs on Spotify.
It must be getting poor streams since Emma isn't popular on Spotify.
Posted by: Mr.X 7th December 2022, 01:07 PM
The fact that Coming Home For Christmas hasnt even got 150,000 streams on Spotify
Anyway, London date is sold out and Manchester is doing well as well. The others, needs a big big push! She will be fine, but would be great if she can pack up Brighton Dome and the Birmingham ones a bit more. They are next week, and like Brighton is pretty much half full... Brighton Dome is always hard to sell, sadly, but I really thought that the sea side yummy mummies of Brighton would flock to this...
(Lol)
Do people really listen to Christmas songs mid-November? Except for All I Want For Christmas, of course...
(shame as he is so much better than Ross)
I'm sure I'll play it a whole lot more now it's December. 
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