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danG
post 18th April 2024, 07:27 PM
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This is the official streaming services thread, the go-to topic for the discussion of playlists and charts from services such as Spotify, Apple & Amazon!

This week's new releases
courtesy of ManicKangaroo

AJ Tracey - Joga Bonito
Alfie Templeman - Hello Lonely [GRAT]
Celeste – Everyday [Saturday 20th]
Charlotte Lily - Coffee Party
Cian Ducrot - Here It Is
Coi Leray - Can't Come Back
Dimension & Alison Wonderland – Satellite
Don Diablo - Beast Mode (Knock You Out)
Flo Rida - Friday
Florrie - Kissing In The Cold
Grace Davies - Illuminate (Official Song of the European Athletics Championships, Roma 2024)
Gryffin - Magic [Wednesday 24th]
Headie One feat Stormzy & Tay Keith – Cry No More [GRAT]
Honne - Imaginary
Hunni (Jen & Liv) – Heartbeat
Jack Back & Themba - Give Me Something To Hold
James Arthur feat Kelly Clarkson - From The Jump
Joel Corry x Pickle feat Vula - Stay Together (Baby Baby)
Jorja Smith – Greatest Gift (Reimagined)
Kings Of Leon - Nothing To Do [GRAT]
Kygo feat Zak Abel & Nile Rodgers - For Life
Lauv - Potential [Wednesday 24th]
LaVelle - Number 42
Lewis Taylor – Kickin In The Beat
LF System - Lift You Up
Lost Frequencies & David Kushner - In My Bones
Lucky Daye – Hericane
Mr. Belt & Wezol & RSCL - Opened Up My Soul
Naughty Boy feat Mist, Abra Cadabra, Tunde & Wardz - Blow Trees
Nina Nesbitt - Mansion
Overmono x The Streets - Turn The Page [Wednesday 24th]
Pozer - Malicious Intentions
Pvris - Oil & Water
R3hab & Jason Derulo – Animal
Rachel Chinouriri – It Is What It Is
Ruel & DMA'S - We’re A Pair Of Diamonds
Sia feat Paris Hilton - Fame Won't Love You [GRAT]
Surfaces - Golden
Twin Atlantic - Get Out
Will Young - Falling Deep


FAQs

What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming?
For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread.

How many streams equals one download sale?
100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread.

How much does streaming contribute to the chart?
Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole. Spotify counts for at least half of this, with Apple Music and Amazon also big contributors. YouTube is also big however most of YouTube's streams are at the free tier so won't count for as much.

Why is my fave not doing well?
Is it being promoted on a major curated playlist, and/or going viral on TikTok? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists on Spotify from a UK standpoint. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist. Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes.

My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping?
Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped releases, such as the recent album impacts from Drake and Taylor Swift.

Spotify

How do I see today's Spotify chart?
To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. For the full top 200, use the link below to go to Spotify's website. You can also use the Kworb website which displays the data in an easier to read format and also contains additional information, however this is often out of date.

Spotify App [top 50]
Spotify Website [top 200]
Kworb [top 200 and extra data]

What are the most influential Spotify playlists?
Links to Spotify's top playlists are as below.

Hot Hits UK
UK Top 50
New Music Friday
Today's Top Hits

How often does the Spotify chart update?
It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although on occasion there will be a delay.

What do the numbers mean?
The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day.

Apple Music

How do I see today's Apple Music chart?
You can use the link below to view the Apple Music top 100 through Kworb. If you have Apple Music, you can also view the top 200 by going to the Charts section and clicking on See All in the Top Songs section.

Kworb [top 100]

What are the most influential Apple Music playlists?
Links to Apple Music's top playlists are as below.

Today's Hits
UK Top 100

How often does the Apple Music chart update?
It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify.

Amazon

How do I see today's Amazon Music chart?
You can use the link below to view the Amazon Music chart.

Amazon Music

How often does the Amazon Music chart update?
It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify.

[FAQs written by Dan]

Spotify/streaming discussion thread archive
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post 19th April 2024, 05:39 AM
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So eager to see how Taylor performs considering the Spotify pre-save record!
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post 19th April 2024, 06:06 AM
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The rumours were true and The Tortured Poets Department is a double album cheeseblock.png ready for the incoming streaming takeover cheeseblock.png
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post 19th April 2024, 06:10 AM
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No surprises Taylor added as track #1 to HH, they also added Headie/Stormzy but low (track #50)
they moved Perrie up quite a bit

Taylor is of course #1 on NMF with Fortnight
with Florida and So Long London also on the list
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post 19th April 2024, 06:11 AM
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taylor's now got 31 tracks! i think the takeover will be megaaaa
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post 19th April 2024, 06:12 AM
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Will it being a double album help or hinder streams? Maybe more songs in the Top 40 but at slightly lower numbers as people won't replay the songs as much as normal? With that in mind I'm not sure it'll do 1 million streams as I expected. I normally listen to Friday releases in the morning but will have to leave it until later due to the sheer length. I won't be the only one.
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post 19th April 2024, 06:22 AM
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QUOTE(conorw @ Apr 19 2024, 07:11 AM) *
taylor's now got 31 tracks! i think the takeover will be megaaaa


Hooray for the 3 track chart rule
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post 19th April 2024, 06:22 AM
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I think it’s same as midnights when she did the 7 more 3am tracks… they still streamed well and helped but the focus outside the core fan base stayed on the main tracks. I think it’ll be the same here, fans will listen but the main album will be the one for everyone to listen to imo
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post 19th April 2024, 06:26 AM
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She's doing it just to break the Beyoncé record from the other day wink.gif

When you search the album on Spotify it takes you to the regular version with 16 tracks
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post 19th April 2024, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE(DoBelieveTheHype @ Apr 19 2024, 07:12 AM) *
Will it being a double album help or hinder streams? Maybe more songs in the Top 40 but at slightly lower numbers as people won't replay the songs as much as normal? With that in mind I'm not sure it'll do 1 million streams as I expected. I normally listen to Friday releases in the morning but will have to leave it until later due to the sheer length. I won't be the only one.

At least with both the single and double albums available separately, not everyone will be listening to the full set. I certainly am not planning to check out part 2 until I have had time to take in part 1. 31 tracks is just overkill for one sitting.

Not that much else out this week of interest based on new music Friday, which I suppose should come as no surprise.
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post 19th April 2024, 06:31 AM
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Imagine buying the vinyl and it doesn't have half of the songs tearsmile.gif

The top 3 streaming tracks will be from the main album I guess.
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post 19th April 2024, 06:33 AM
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QUOTE(DoBelieveTheHype @ Apr 19 2024, 07:12 AM) *
Will it being a double album help or hinder streams? Maybe more songs in the Top 40 but at slightly lower numbers as people won't replay the songs as much as normal? With that in mind I'm not sure it'll do 1 million streams as I expected. I normally listen to Friday releases in the morning but will have to leave it until later due to the sheer length. I won't be the only one.

I expect a lot of people will just stick to the main album, the tracks exclusively on the extended edition will probably be noticeably lower in the streaming chart tomorrow.

Fortnight, I expect will still easily pass 1m.
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post 19th April 2024, 06:33 AM
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love love Fortnight
Post Malone got the same treatment as Lana biggrin.gif
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post 19th April 2024, 06:35 AM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Apr 19 2024, 06:26 AM) *
She's doing it just to break the Beyoncé record from the other day wink.gif

When you search the album on Spotify it takes you to the regular version with 16 tracks


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post 19th April 2024, 06:37 AM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Apr 19 2024, 07:26 AM) *
She's doing it just to break the Beyoncé record from the other day wink.gif

When you search the album on Spotify it takes you to the regular version with 16 tracks


If you search Taylor Swift though you get the long (The Anthology) album though. With the other one nowhere in site.

So it's going to be how people look for the album how well this does.
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post 19th April 2024, 06:39 AM
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Will the first 16 tracks end up with two different versions for the Spotify chart as they're on technically different albums or will they end up combined?
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post 19th April 2024, 06:39 AM
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From one hand - I’m shocked to my bones and the happiest man alive (especially cuz all the second album is with Dessner)
On the other hand with my chart Stan obsessed, that means Fortnight will get much less streams to compete with, with all these songs.

Also They are doing the SAME MISTAKE again with not changing the main album on her pages to that version. Sam as 3am.
when you look for the album you get the normal version and it’s the on the artist pick.
again we’ll see a huge difference between the two parts. Wasted opportunity.

Happy Double Album day!
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post 19th April 2024, 06:41 AM
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but if you're on HH or NMF and click on the parent album the song is from, it takes you to the 16 track version

not sure what happened with the people that pre-saved? everyone knows?
cos I read she made a record of album pre-saves
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post 19th April 2024, 06:43 AM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Apr 19 2024, 07:41 AM) *
but if you're on HH or NMF and click on the parent album the song is from, it takes you to the 16 track version

not sure what happened with the people that pre-saved? everyone knows?
cos I read she made a record of album pre-saves

Pre-save only saved the standard 16 track edition!
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post 19th April 2024, 06:45 AM
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QUOTE(UltraCruelSummer @ Apr 19 2024, 08:43 AM) *
Pre-save only saved the standard 16 track edition!

Yes, I had to delete that and add the new one. It didn’t replace it or anything obviously.
Yeah, that’s the price of doing all this by surprise.
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