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post 13th March 2023, 06:19 PM
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What are some of the unluckiest National Final entries for you?

I'm talking about those who were unfortunate to lose out to songs that were always going to do better, but probably would have won most other years either side of their year instead?

No, I'm not talking about an Asanda losing out to SuRie moment. That was just a poor public decision.

Here's an example of what I'm talking about (imo)

Danny Saucedo - Amazing. Surely would have won a lot of the other years, but was very unfortunate to be up against the behemoth of Loreen - Euphoria!

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post 13th March 2023, 06:25 PM
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Tone Damli - Butterflies is the obvious one for me. Came second to Rybak at MGP (tho I maintain is far better) which obviously went on to become an absolutely massive ESC winner. Tough go for Tone


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post 13th March 2023, 06:27 PM
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Oooh great topic here! Markus Riva comes to mind but for all the wrong reasons kink.gif Aistė Pilvelytė would be a great representative for Lithuania in 2017 but her later entries have gone downhill quickly.

Then, there is Dotter sad.gif
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post 13th March 2023, 06:33 PM
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Uk one.

City Chix in 2006. So much better than Daz

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qYiBmM6LfVA


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post 14th March 2023, 06:13 AM
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Dotter, Ace Wilder and Wiktoria!
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post 14th March 2023, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(eurovision4ever @ Mar 13 2023, 06:33 PM) *
Uk one.

City Chix in 2006. So much better than Daz

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qYiBmM6LfVA


Was listening to this again last night, a fab song, and I voted for it at the time (along with Daz), it was very obviously inspired by Kelly Clarkson, although sounds more to me like the first Veronicas album.

I love the chord change before the chorus.

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I completely agree with Amazing and Butterflies, as those are so clearly songs that would have won their national finals - and come top three at Eurovision probably - if not for meeting a giant on the way.

I could go on and on about favourites that deserved it, like Wiktoria, Alcazar, Salem Al Fakir etc...but I'll leave this here, one of the biggest hits ever in Sweden, came 2nd in Melodifestivalen 1995 and was unlucky to run into another classic, Se På Mig by Jan Johansen.

I do think this could also have been top three at Eurovision? It fits into the world music vibe that was all the rage.



Also, from Melodifestivalen 2009:



Caroline had qualified through Andra Chansen and was then drawn SECOND to perform in the final. Despite that, she finished a very close second to La Voix, only a few thousand televotes behind Malena. If Malena had been on second and Caroline had been on closer to the end then I expect the result would have swapped around - producer decided draws are, while entertaining, basically unfair. I think this would have been a surefire top 10 at Eurovision too, pure class.


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post 14th March 2023, 10:44 AM
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I had forgotten about Snälla Snälla 🥰 what a fabulous track



Admittedly my pick for the song robbed by Euphoria is not Amazing but instead is the utterly flawless Why Am I Crying. Like imagine singing a break up anthem with your ex in the front row and absolutely f***ing NAILING it
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post 14th March 2023, 11:15 AM
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Not that I don't enjoy that we got Malena into Eurovision, for the niche Greta's mum reference that lives on, and the fact that it's a huge banger, but the track lost quite a lot of its impact at Eurovision due to the live backing vocals being unable to create the epic choral effect on the studio version. I think Caroline Af Ugglas would have been a good risk for Sweden and restored them to the top 10 in that fallow 2007-2010 period.

Melodifestivalen 2009 and 2012 were wub.gif This year it feels like they wanted a Loreen win so much they avoided putting anything remotely competitive in its way (I guess Air might have won on another year).

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post 14th March 2023, 12:07 PM
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Still convinced that Dear Jon would have swept the board in 1995 with ‘One Gift Of Love’ - instead it came 3rd in the National final behind Love City Groove and Deuce

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post 14th March 2023, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(gooddelta @ Mar 14 2023, 12:15 PM) *
Not that I don't enjoy that we got Malena into Eurovision, for the niche Greta's mum reference that lives on, and the fact that it's a huge banger, but the track lost quite a lot of its impact at Eurovision due to the live backing vocals being unable to create the epic choral effect on the studio version. I think Caroline Af Ugglas would have been a good risk for Sweden and restored them to the top 10 in that fallow 2007-2010 period.

Melodifestivalen 2009 and 2012 were wub.gif This year it feels like they wanted a Loreen win so much they avoided putting anything remotely competitive in its way (I guess Air might have won on another year).

I do agree, I think La Voix entered under the current rules would have done so much better. Being able to really utilise the backing vocals would have really lifted that track to make it much more special live on stage at ESC. Still a banger tho.


Amazing that we’re also talking about a time that included Stay The Night. What a year
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post 14th March 2023, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(___∆___ @ Mar 14 2023, 12:07 PM) *
Still convinced that Dear Jon would have swept the board in 1995 with ‘One Gift Of Love’ - instead it came 3rd in the National final behind Love City Groove and Deuce



I like the Dear Jon song (only dislike the band name), that's a great vocal.

Deuce was one of my favourite 90s songs though. Not that it would have done much better than Love City Groove, as Eurodance wasn't exactly in at with the juries at the time.

I feel like It's You by The Revelations was a bit of a missed opportunity for us in 2008, they were a little like The Pipettes and were riding the throwback 60s soul pop wave that was all over the charts at the time.



Why on earth we picked Andy Abraham I have no idea.

And of course, as much as I love them, Cyndi clearly would have done better than Scooch in Helsinki. Maybe not as well as people think though, look what happened to Norway 2010, which was essentially the same song.
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post 14th March 2023, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Silas @ Mar 14 2023, 01:06 PM) *
I do agree, I think La Voix entered under the current rules would have done so much better. Being able to really utilise the backing vocals would have really lifted that track to make it much more special live on stage at ESC. Still a banger tho.

Amazing that we’re also talking about a time that included Stay The Night. What a year


I know wub.gif I would have been happy with anything from that final winning apart from Sofia's Alla and HEAT's 1000 Miles, and even those were fine.

Nine absolutely fantastic tracks in that final, I could only dream for that quality again.
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post 14th March 2023, 04:02 PM
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I still like Yodel in the Canyon of Love haha - obviously the public made the decision but I wonder how it would have got on.

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post 14th March 2023, 04:04 PM
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Just more evidence that the UK CONSISENTLY picks the worst songs in Eurovision You Decide!!!

The Michael Rice debacle too :/
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post 14th March 2023, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(chartjack2 @ Mar 14 2023, 04:02 PM) *
I still like Yodel in the Canyon of Love haha - obviously the public made the decision but I wonder how it would have got on.


I loved yodel in the canyon of love. Other uk entries I think should have been chosen were

Deuce - I Need You
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ1GWtZkGuM

Only The Women Know
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mqtyDLj3zY
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post 14th March 2023, 07:51 PM
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Speaking of 2012 Melodifestivalen:



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Left people so shook they forgot to vote for it!

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post 14th March 2023, 08:24 PM
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2:34 to the end is the greatest 30 seconds of TV ever. The out of tune singing along, 'oy oy oy oy oy', 'herrrrregud', the twirl at the end after the song has finished. Iconic.
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post 14th March 2023, 08:42 PM
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Omg how could I have forgotten that stone cold ICONIC moment
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post 14th March 2023, 08:44 PM
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The fact that there is almost no applause as the track finishes too laugh.gif The crowd went mild.
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post 15th March 2023, 12:44 AM
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I loved Mirakel and it went direct to final so plenty others did too
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