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post Aug 1 2020, 08:32 AM
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This is the Spotify chart and general streaming thread for August 2020, the go-to topic for the discussion of Spotify playlists and charts alongside discussion of other streaming services' charts such as Apple & Amazon!

Spotify FAQs

What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming?

For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread.

How do I see today's Spotify chart?

To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. The desktop top 50 may update before anything else so is always worth checking if the website is not up to date. However recently it has been known to not to do (even when the website has), so do check all sources. Also note that the Spotify Website will update before external websites (Kworb, LivePopBars). Occasionally there will be a delay in the Spotify chart updating which could even take days.

Useful web links:

Spotify App [top 50]
Spotify Website [top 200]
Kworb [top 200 and extra data]
LivePopBars [top 200]
SponOnTrack [top 200]

Hot playlist links:



How often does the chart update?

It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although this is not 100% guaranteed. Sometimes the top 200 on the website will update but without the top 50 on the app updating, and sometimes there will be no update at all.

How many plays on Spotify equals one download sale?

100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. (Spotify will let you play a song on repeat 600 times if you really want to).

The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. For information on what songs are currently on ACR and what songs will be moving to ACR, refer to this thread.

How much does Spotify contribute to the chart?

Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole, although the #1 still can be decided by who has better paid-for sales. Spotify counts for a good chunk of streaming sales (although it appears to be losing some market share as Apple Music and Amazon Music gain in popularity), so doing well on Spotify is essential for doing well in the chart.

Why is my fave not doing well on Spotify?

Is it being promoted on one of Spotify's major curated playlists? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists, with over a million followers. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist.

Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes.

My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping?

Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped artists/releases such as Justin Bieber/Ed Sheeran/Drake who will of course enter straight at the top.

What do the numbers mean?

The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day.

[FAQs written by Dan]

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post Aug 1 2020, 10:25 AM
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Billie in at #7 on Spotify and Sam Smith at #36
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post Aug 1 2020, 10:48 AM
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My Future is not showing up on Spotify chart website (top 200).

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post Aug 1 2020, 10:56 AM
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727k for Head & Heart, Little Mix back up to #45
I feel like that's a pretty disappointing start for Billie. I wasn't expecting No Time To Die Numbers but even Everything I Wanted debuted at #3 then rose to #2 on the Friday
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post Aug 1 2020, 10:59 AM
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Yea I don't think Billie will have a long lasting top ten hit with this one.
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(LMLou @ Aug 1 2020, 01:56 PM) *
727k for Head & Heart, Little Mix back up to #45
I feel like that's a pretty disappointing start for Billie. I wasn't expecting No Time To Die Numbers but even Everything I Wanted debuted at #3 then rose to #2 on the Friday

I really think as someone who really loves her that this song is no more than fine. Won't be a hit.
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:06 AM
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That Number for Head and Heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:17 AM
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newne.png 189. Fontaines D.C. - A Lucid Dream

Fantastic to see!
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:20 AM
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Vamps made top 200 too @159

Think that's the first time for a while one of their singles has impacted on spotify. I guess the high NMF position helped
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:22 AM
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Maroon 5 starting to climb up again is also good to see, up to #153 from #183 yesterday
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(WhoOdyssey @ Aug 1 2020, 12:22 PM) *
Maroon 5 starting to climb up again is also good to see, up to #153 from #183 yesterday


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post Aug 1 2020, 11:43 AM
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well, Billie did nearly 350K, which is ok
she's #1 in the US with 2 million streams

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post Aug 1 2020, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(SKOB @ Aug 1 2020, 12:42 PM) *
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Yep!
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post Aug 1 2020, 11:56 AM
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Shocked to see this - my recent BJSC entry The Band CAMINO debut at #134 on Spotify USA with their new single 'Crying Over You'!
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post Aug 1 2020, 12:06 PM
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No mcfly or new Ava max when Artist bring new songs out everyone keep list old one king & queens happen tones a i to she brought 2 new singles no everyone just dance monkey
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post Aug 1 2020, 12:42 PM
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^Pop Songs do well on spotify if they get playlist support, Ava Max was like track #12 on NMF and McFly was like track #50 or something, they're not on HH, so it's not enough to go top 200, I mean if Ava Max gets a (mini) hit is cos the label throws some $$$ and the song is playlisted, she clearly doesn't have the fanbase
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post Aug 1 2020, 01:01 PM
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Ava might not have a huge fanbase but several of her songs have way over 150m streams on Spotify - that does not happen by just throwing some money out there.

She is one of the biggest international artists in my country.
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post Aug 1 2020, 01:07 PM
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they spent cazillions on her, no song of hers has been a natural spontaneous hit
Salt only started happening in Europe after buying high spots on playlists, had been out for ages with no effect
but they invested like crazy, was #1 on every Scandinavian playlist out of the blue, and that's why she got the streams
same with Kings & Queens
Torn was never added and nothing ever happened

it's all passive streaming from playlists
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post Aug 1 2020, 01:22 PM
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Torn still has decent numbers though? 90m on Spotify and nearly 70m on YouTube. Her best song with the worst support. It did alright considering. I think she does decently well, and not just because of her label.
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post Aug 1 2020, 01:30 PM
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Uhm, she has 5 airplay hits in my country too (K&Q was #6 last week), but whatever you say! She IS popular in several countries in Europe. It's just that nothing has happened in US since SBP.

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