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 23rd June 2018, 02:26 PM
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 rip in peace Dickston
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I'm not sure how many people actively post personal charts here but I've realised that a lot of us chart song very differently. Some peoples charts move very quickly whilst others tend to have longer chart runs, or have less new entries week-by-week.
Looking at the figures, the average song on my chart will last around 5 weeks. Some songs only last 1-2 weeks (ie. Troye Sivan - Bloom [2 weeks], Shawn Mendes - Nervous [1 week]) where others can have a huge lasting presence on my chart (ie. Craig David - I Know You [16 weeks], George Ezra - Paradise [17+ weeks]). To add to that I usually have roughly 5 new entries to my Top 40 each week, with the odd week being a few more or a few less. How does your chart compare to my own? Inspired by seeing how Mango's longest current runner was "just" 9 weeks, whereas mine is currently double that 
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23rd June 2018, 02:31 PM
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 there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Fast as well. Four's a good average for most songs on mine. Very few will hit say ten weeks. Many will just enter for one week and then drop out again.
Tbh I change what I listen to a lot so I find myself not understanding how some people can chart the same songs for so long. But then, I don't know what metrics people are using to measure and calculate their own charts. Mine is just what I'm listening to week on week. |
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23rd June 2018, 02:41 PM
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I'd say 5 weeks is the average for my chart too at the moment, but that's mostly because it's a top 100 and a lot of songs just chart very low for a few weeks. The real big hitters will spend about 30 weeks in the chart (top 100) or more and medium sized hits about 15-20 weeks.
In the top 40 the average stay is probably 5-10 weeks, and 15-20 weeks for the big hits. At the moment my longest consecutive runner in the chart is 'Lonely Together' which has spent 45 weeks, all inside the top 20 too actually, but that is a real extreme case. 'Without You' also has done 45 weeks in the chart but that sits at #99 this week. |
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23rd June 2018, 02:43 PM
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 It's a cruel summer.
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Mine's all over the place haha 😂 I have top 10 songs spending like 5 weeks top 100 and then I have songs like LWYMMD that haven't left the top 40 in nearly a year & Let It Go's like 100 weeks too 40 😂
I'd probs say on average the normal hits spend like 15-20 weeks top 40! |
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23rd June 2018, 02:44 PM
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 you never forget your first time...
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Songs don't tend to last all that long in my chart because my taste is constantly changing and I'm always discovering new music, making it difficult for anything to stick around all that long (although there are exceptions). My current longest runner is on 20 weeks (Trust Fund Baby by Why Don't We) and still as high as #25, and this is one of the longest runners of the past couple of years so it's a very rare occurrence for songs to make 20+ weeks nowadays. Many #1s struggle to even last 10 weeks!
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23rd June 2018, 03:02 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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The average age of a song in my current chart is 6.5 weeks; the oldest is 22 weeks. I would say most Top 10 hits get 10 weeks, and Top 3 hits around 15 weeks but my chart is quite slow.
It's very rare for songs to go straight in and back out again, mainly because when a song goes Top 50 it gets added to my weekly iPod chart playlist and so I'm bound to shuffle it a few times during the week which will help it to chart again the following Sunday, but that said - it does happen now and then! |
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23rd June 2018, 03:03 PM
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The horrors persist, but so do I
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My chart runs look short but it's actually a monthly chart, so a chart run of say (30-11-9) actually covers 3 months / 13 weeks! My average lifespan is probably somewhere around 2 months / 8 weeks and a lot of my proper hits make it to 5 months. Only a couple songs per year make it to 6 months (26 weeks) and the longest any has charted is 7 months.
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23rd June 2018, 03:16 PM
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It's a cruel summer.
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Also my number 1 lifespan is so long atm! 2018 has had two 7 week #1's and one 6 week #1 so there's only been I think 4 other number 1 singles outside of those! My #1 turnover is usually a lot quicker than that with only one or two long running singles at the top.
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23rd June 2018, 03:28 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Out of interest if a song is charting for say 30 weeks does that mean you're listening to it over and over again then, or is it just some other metric?
My listening's pretty broad so even the song I listen to the most in the entire year normally isn't going to break say, 60 or 70 plays. |
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23rd June 2018, 03:44 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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QUOTE(Jüpiter @ Jun 23 2018, 04:28 PM)  Out of interest if a song is charting for say 30 weeks does that mean you're listening to it over and over again then, or is it just some other metric? Only 2 songs in the past decade have got to 30 weeks! I would say the average is around 8 or 9 weeks, great songs get to 14 weeks and 'best of the year' type songs get to 18+ weeks. I've tried to log my plays on https://www.last.fm/user/Danny_Carr but it doesn't log my iPod plays (which frustratingly, is where I listen to most of my music)- I'd say a song in the 31-50 region gets around 1 play a week, all the way up to about 6 plays in the week for the #1, but like you I listen to a diverse range of current and old music so the number of plays for a big favourite rarely would exceed 60 or 70 in the year. |
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23rd June 2018, 03:47 PM
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It really depends on how strong the chart is at the moment. I get songs that spend 4-5 weeks in the 30’s and then skyrocket and then songs that just stall and are out of the chart 3 weeks later. Roughly, based on peak position:
#41-50: 3-6 weeks #31-40: 6-9 weeks (some anomalies) #21-30: 7-11 weeks #16-20: 9-13 weeks #11-15: 10-17 weeks #8-10: 14-19 weeks #6-7: 15-20 weeks #4-5: 18-27 weeks (some anomalies, Ride peaked around this area and lasted 40 weeks) #2-3: 19-30 weeks #1: 17-23 weeks (weak #1), 25-32 (average weeks spent for #1), 33+ (strong #1’s or contenders for song of the year) QUOTE(Jüpiter @ Jun 23 2018, 08:28 AM) Out of interest if a song is charting for say 30 weeks does that mean you're listening to it over and over again then, or is it just some other metric? Yes and no. I have a lot of songs that do pass the 30+ mark especially when I listened to the radio a lot and most of the songs that haven’t peaked IRL that were just starting to drop in my chart. Of course it plays less of a role now that radio’s gotten a bit stale these days but it was a component.
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23rd June 2018, 09:20 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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Fair enough. While I have a low overall play count I have pretty high baselines, so stuff in my #30-#40 range is picking up generally 6-8 plays in the month with the #1 being closer to 20. With such high numbers it's hard for anything to keep up at that level week on week.
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24th June 2018, 02:28 AM
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The horrors persist, but so do I
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QUOTE(Jüpiter @ Jun 23 2018, 11:28 AM) Out of interest if a song is charting for say 30 weeks does that mean you're listening to it over and over again then, or is it just some other metric? I don't track my plays or anything that I listen to, but it does mean I listen to those songs regularly. I mostly listen to radio so that has a lot to do with it. It's more how much I'm enjoying the song rather than how much I hear it, but my top 5 is still generally my most-played.My listening's pretty broad so even the song I listen to the most in the entire year normally isn't going to break say, 60 or 70 plays. |
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24th June 2018, 04:44 PM
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Buy yourself a car, and a house in Devon
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My 'old format' was very similar to that of Mango's, the record number of weeks in the Top 40 being 10 weeks. In my new format a good song can spend from 15-20 weeks in the Top 40 and much longer in the Top 100, however songs that spend a number of weeks in the Top 10 tend to fall quickly out of the Top 40, such as Lucid Dreams and Friend of Mine.
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25th June 2018, 02:32 AM
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rip in peace Dickston
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QUOTE(PeteFromLeeds @ Jun 25 2018, 12:44 AM) however songs that spend a number of weeks in the Top 10 tend to fall quickly out of the Top 40, such as Lucid Dreams and Friend of Mine. This is interesting too because I find the same thing in my chart. A song could spend 6-7 weeks Top 10 but then plummet in just a few weeks. Filthy is a funny case with a chart run like [1-1-1-2-1-1-2-5-8-12-19-30-31-39-xx] 9 weeks Top 10 but then fell and skipped right over 20-29  |
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27th June 2018, 04:26 PM
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there's nothing straight about plump Elvis
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I guess if I did a top 100 things would end up sticking around a lot longer~
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27th June 2018, 04:58 PM
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I listen to a broad variety of music from different genres and I’m constnsty discovering new songs so lots of songs compete for my chart. It’s not uncommon for me to have 10 new entries in a chart, I think my record for most new entries in a week is around 20 so there is a high turnover of tracks. Some do last longer though. G.R.L. - Dont’t Talk About Love charted for over a year if I remember correctly.
In Q3 and Q4 I wasn’t actively seeking out new music as much as I was busy with other things so a lot of the songs had longer chart runs. Now I like so many songs, I have so many songs that would have had higher peaks on quieter weeks |
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