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23rd June 2017, 06:34 AM
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23rd June 2017, 07:29 AM
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Interesting but wrong day for me and many other people. Directly against Coronation Street! You don't put a show that you want to be successful up against that! If the old TOTP are still running then it'll be against those on BBC4 too!
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23rd June 2017, 07:54 AM
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I don't think they're aiming for the same audience that watch Coronation Street..
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23rd June 2017, 09:01 AM
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Interesting but wrong day for me and many other people. Directly against Coronation Street! You don't put a show that you want to be successful up against that! If the old TOTP are still running then it'll be against those on BBC4 too! I don't think they're aiming for the same audience that watch Coronation Street.. And it certainly didn't matter to them in the past before TOTP was axed |
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23rd June 2017, 09:16 AM
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I don't think the clash with Corrie matters, people watch a lot of stuff on catchup these days, or sky plus it or whatever.
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23rd June 2017, 09:33 AM
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Top of the Pops' biggest problem by the time it ended was the fact that it remained a chart-based show. It meant that, by the time a song qualified to be on the programme, it had been played on the radio and music channels for six weeks or more. Now that on-air / on-sale is the general practice, that no longer applies. A combination of chart hits (albums as well as singles) and new releases could make it a relevant show attracting a decent audience. Obviously, the more performers they get to play live in the studio, the better it will be.
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23rd June 2017, 09:47 AM
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They've had the very Tunnocks, Mary
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If Fulwell73 are doing this, this will be pretty good calibre. They not only do The Late Late Show with James in America but they did JLS and One Direction's films of their tours, and they did the David Beckham: Into the Unknown documentary. Ben Winston is a safe pair of hands.
And dear Lord I remember that Blazin' Squad performance posted above. That was the start of the ghastly Tim Kash era where they filled TOTP up with random 'News' crap and playing more new releases as opposed to stuff that had actually charted that week. The last truly great TOTP performance that I remember before they axed it was this one: The bikes! The synchronised hair flicks on the chorus! The girls just looking like the hottest Hell's Angels ever to walk the earth! I think if they aim towards something that has performances but also something that will be a water cooler/viral sharer moment like Carpool Karaoke, then they'll have a winner. |
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23rd June 2017, 09:48 AM
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I have wanted TOTP to come back for some time now and would watch it even though I don't like most of the music that gets into the top 40. If you picked a random person in the street and asked them who is no.1 in the chart,they most likely wouldn't have a clue so at least it would bring chart music back to primetime TV. I would like to see whoever has the highest new entry on the album chart being invited to perform a track from their album each week.
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23rd June 2017, 10:16 AM
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23rd June 2017, 10:35 AM
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To be honest, I rather it be a new format, still have the chart, and just concentrate on the new releases of the week, and play the #1 track after 40 to 1 countdown. It be more compelling to watch on a Saturday evening primetime slot though running time of 45 minutes instead of the usual 30, but than again it be a day late after the chart is announced.
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23rd June 2017, 12:12 PM
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Interesting but wrong day for me and many other people. Directly against Coronation Street! You don't put a show that you want to be successful up against that! If the old TOTP are still running then it'll be against those on BBC4 too! I think it's the right timeslot - for those that don't watch Corrie. It's always going to be up against something! And it matters much less than it did when TOTP was on because it's the sort of thing that is bound to do well on catchup and YouTube anyway. |
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23rd June 2017, 12:16 PM
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Top of the Pops' biggest problem by the time it ended was the fact that it remained a chart-based show. It meant that, by the time a song qualified to be on the programme, it had been played on the radio and music channels for six weeks or more. Now that on-air / on-sale is the general practice, that no longer applies. A combination of chart hits (albums as well as singles) and new releases could make it a relevant show attracting a decent audience. Obviously, the more performers they get to play live in the studio, the better it will be. No, they'd got rid of that format in 2003, and that was a mistake in my view. They were playing too many songs "upfront", and by the time it moved to BBC2 they were still doing that, but as well having too many acts that weren't likely to chart at all. It was a mishmash of brand new songs people didn't know yet, and more adult-oriented acts that the young weren't interested in. It should have stuck to playing the hits, and only having big acts on prior to release. For it to be a success now, they're going to have to find a balance between having established hits on and new releases. |
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23rd June 2017, 11:11 PM
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It'd be fine if the new hits were by established acts tho?!
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24th June 2017, 10:42 AM
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26th June 2017, 09:09 AM
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Alas I'm in agreement with Liamk97 in that realistically, a TOTP-style show now simply wouldn't garner enough ratings to justify its costs on a routine slot on a mainstream 'terrestrial' channel. There has always been MTV for satellite users which leads on music-specialised content, and now the internet which I believe is the chief source of 'a la carte' views of current (or indeed catalogue) audio-visual performances, at least by the bulk of those interested in the present output who are generally of the younger demographic.
The ongoing re-runs of old TOTP episodes from its heydays only receive the interest they do because of the 'nostalgia factor'; as they work through into '90s and latterly '00s I suspect fewer people will take an interest even in these, as fewer people tuned in to them at the time and so won't view TOTP with the same dewy-eyed rose-tinted perspective as those of us who grew up in an era when it was THE chart show of import and - until the later '80s at least when rivals such as The Chart Show and The Roxy were launched by independent channels - was the sole source of chart music TV for the majority. And if you were an official chart fan only, these pretenders to the crown would never do as they couldn't use it, and so TOTP remained the weekly appointment on TV, alongside the audio rundown broadcast on Radio 1. So naturally more people will feel more fondly about it the longer one goes back. I would imagine that if this were ever to work, it would have the greatest chance on an online-only channel, and I suppose BBC3 is the obvious home, now it is online-only and is directed at young audiences, who would appreciate the content of the current charts most. Yet at the same time they're the most internet-savvy, and I somehow doubt that a fixed programme like that would appeal to enough of them to centre their focus on a weekly appointment with it, as opposed to just tapping in to what they already know and love from various sites as they go, when it suits them. If that is correct then I can't see how the bean counters would support any attempt at revival for long. The failure of the rebooted TFI proved that I think. I hope they do take a flyer on this and that I'm ultimately proved wrong in my assumptions, but if I were a betting man, I wouldn't be betting against myself. |
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26th June 2017, 10:09 AM
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Alas I'm in agreement with Liamk97 in that realistically, a TOTP-style show now simply wouldn't garner enough ratings to justify its costs on a routine slot on a mainstream 'terrestrial' channel. There has always been MTV for satellite users which leads on music-specialised content, and now the internet which I believe is the chief source of 'a la carte' views of current (or indeed catalogue) audio-visual performances, at least by the bulk of those interested in the present output who are generally of the younger demographic. The ongoing re-runs of old TOTP episodes from its heydays only receive the interest they do because of the 'nostalgia factor'; as they work through into '90s and latterly '00s I suspect fewer people will take an interest even in these, as fewer people tuned in to them at the time and so won't view TOTP with the same dewy-eyed rose-tinted perspective as those of us who grew up in an era when it was THE chart show of import and - until the later '80s at least when rivals such as The Chart Show and The Roxy were launched by independent channels - was the sole source of chart music TV for the majority. And if you were an official chart fan only, these pretenders to the crown would never do as they couldn't use it, and so TOTP remained the weekly appointment on TV, alongside the audio rundown broadcast on Radio 1. So naturally more people will feel more fondly about it the longer one goes back. I would imagine that if this were ever to work, it would have the greatest chance on an online-only channel, and I suppose BBC3 is the obvious home, now it is online-only and is directed at young audiences, who would appreciate the content of the current charts most. Yet at the same time they're the most internet-savvy, and I somehow doubt that a fixed programme like that would appeal to enough of them to centre their focus on a weekly appointment with it, as opposed to just tapping in to what they already know and love from various sites as they go, when it suits them. If that is correct then I can't see how the bean counters would support any attempt at revival for long. The failure of the rebooted TFI proved that I think. I hope they do take a flyer on this and that I'm ultimately proved wrong in my assumptions, but if I were a betting man, I wouldn't be betting against myself. Well it's going to cost money to create whether it's put on BBC One or BBC Three - and they don't need to worry about overnight ratings as much as commercial channels. They might as well try it on BBC One for 6 weeks like they are doing. If it gets 2 million viewers on BBC One, and then consistently goes top 10 on iPlayer, and gets tens of millions of views on YouTube as big performances go viral, it might be worthwhile. |
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18th July 2017, 11:13 PM
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19th July 2017, 08:11 AM
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They've had the very Tunnocks, Mary
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Just as I thought then. This could potentially be huge if they get the right names on board. |
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19th July 2017, 10:05 AM
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Bob Shennan, director of BBC Radio and BBC Music, has described the corporation’s plans for a new primetime televised music series as a “fantastic opportunity”. A brand new six-part music series will be broadcast live on BBC One this autumn and will feature UK and international music stars. As reported earlier today (July 19), each 30-minute show will feature with live performances, sketches and interviews. Independent production company Fulwell 73 has been commissioned to produce the series by Charlotte Moore, director BBC Content, and Jan Younghusband, for BBC Music and BBC Entertainment on BBC One. Shennan said: “The BBC is the biggest music broadcaster in the UK and we are always looking for new ways to bring music to our audiences. This series will be a fantastic opportunity to showcase the biggest and best UK and international bands and artists and we’re looking forward to working with one of the world’s most innovative and creative TV production companies.” Jan Younghusband, head of commissioning for BBC Music, said: “Following on from the success of BBC Music programmes such as Adele at the BBC and Michael Bublé at the BBC, we’re excited to be bringing this new live music series to BBC One.” Gabe Turner, partner at Fulwell 73 says: ‘We’re delighted to be working with the BBC on such an exciting series. The BBC’s heritage in creating and broadcasting world class music TV is second to none - their classic music shows were a big part of our childhoods growing up as fans devouring everything pop culture. The range of genres and different styles that people are listening to now is more diverse than ever before, and it’s a great time to be making a show that gives a mainstream TV platform to the most exciting stuff out there." Further details will be announced later in the summer. |
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19th July 2017, 03:29 PM
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Don't like the Christmas TOTP episodes, they simply reflect how awful the majority of todays chart stars are. However, with a weekly chart show back with us again, I welcome it. I always used to watch the weekly shows, but avoided the Christmas specials.
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