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[spiceboy]

There are NDAs between record companies and streaming services, meaning that neither do the artists know nor do we know how much streaming equals income. But it seems to me that yet again the artists involved (not just the lead artists but all creatives) are being shat on.

Streaming equalled a massive loss of income but it doesnt really have to be that way and streaming services as well rich so they could afford to pay better to the artists involved. Also, most lead artists (not writers or producers) on record labels now are on 360-deals, meaning that they get a salary with some extra stuff and nothing else, whilst record labels keep all the profits from everything including touring and sponsorships. It's not like before when artists would get huge lump sums of money in advance and then get would also get part of the profits - or if it is, it is much more reduced than it used to be.

The industry really needs to change, specially in a post-COVID world where most artists ability to make ends meet has been drastically reduced.

ANYWAY the point that I was making is that these two songs will never be nice little earners for Emma, when they flopped and are not really taken up on streaming at all...

Oh I'm not disagreeing with you, I was simply questioning how much a songwriter on one album track from an album. Also it's very strange if she only earned "200 when the majority of Kylies are physicals, which made me wonder how many have co-written on the song as sometimes it is ridiculous.

I also don't think either will be nice sellers they will be eclipsed by superior Christmas songs. I mean last year CHFC sold 620 copies and that's not just streams as it was also released to download platforms like iTunes etc. Santa Baby did even worse with 155 copies. At this rate it will take her 10 years to get to 6k copies... That's unless she releases a new physical bundle every year in which case it will be a lovely seller

This post has been edited by spiceboy: 10th December 2020, 07:52 PM