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Mack. View member profile	Aug 7 2013, 06:51 PM Post #1
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	We start with the thread with the news of: QUOTE Toronado, Dawn Approach, Al Kazeem and Cirrus Des Aigles are the headline names among an array of European stars entered for the third Qipco British Champions Day at Ascot on Saturday October 19. Cirrus Des Aigles, the 2011 winner of the fixture's showpiece event the Qipco Champion Stakes, could bid to recapture Europe's richest 10-furlong race after being defeated in the race last year by Frankel. Frankel was the star name during the first two years of British Champions Day, guaranteeing the nascent fixture a high profile, and with the unbeaten superstar now retired to stud duties a new headline-grabbing attraction is required. That could come in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes, which Toronado and Dawn Approach are both entered for, raising the tantalising possibility that the pair may resume a fierce rivalry that currently stands 2-1 in favour of Dawn Approach. Dawn Approach won their first two meetings, in the 2,000 Guineas and St James's Palace Stakes, before Toronado struck back in the Sussex Stakes at Glorious Goodwood last week. Toronado also holds an entry in the Champion Stakes, as does his stablemate and 1,000 Guineas winner Sky Lantern, plus the British, Irish and French Derby winners (Ruler Of The World, Trading Leather and Intello). Britain's leading older racehorse Al Kazeem, winner of the Prince of Wales's Stakes and the Coral-Eclipse, is another engaged for the race. The Qipco British Champions Fillies & Mares Stakes, being run as a Group 1 for the first time, has doubled in value to £500,000 and attracted a plethora of European talent. The first three home in the British Oaks (Talent, Secret Gesture and The Lark) join the first three in the Irish Oaks (Chicquita, Venus De Milo and Just Pretending) and the German Oaks winner Penelopa. Last year's winner Sapphire and The Fugue represent the cream of the older generation, while Germany's Nymphea and South Africa's Igugu head the overseas raiders. The Queen could be represented on Champions Day after her Ascot Gold Cup winner Estimate was entered for the Group 3 Long Distance Cup alongside Michael Owen's Brown Panther. Former Gold Cup winners Rite Of Passage and Colour Vision also figure, as does France's Gloomy Sunday, an impressive Group 3 winner at Sandown in May. Lethal Force, Society Rock, Sole Power, Soft Falling Rain and Sea Siren lead the entries for the Group 2 Sprint. This post has been edited by Mack'sXmasSack: Nov 9 2017, 11:20 PM


Mack. View member profile	Aug 9 2013, 07:34 PM Post #2
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	MAIN SATURDAY RACE TOMORROW: 2:55 Haydock Betfred Rose of Lancaster Stakes (Group 3) £60,000 Telescope 4-6f City Style 6-1 Noble Mission 13-2 David Livingston 10-1 Quick Wit 12-1 Black Spirit 25-1 Rewarded 25-1 Sri Putra 25-1 Area Fifty One 33-1 Making Eyes 40-1 Who are you backing? This post has been edited by kenukcsf: Aug 9 2013, 07:35 PM


Mack. View member profile	Aug 10 2013, 08:01 PM Post #3
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Yes! Got the winner of the Rose of Lancaster Stakes with David Livingston winning at 15-2 with Telescope second and Noble Mission third.


Popchartfreak View member profile	Aug 10 2013, 08:50 PM Post #4
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 18 July 2012 Posts: 22,811 User: 17,376	QUOTE(kenukcsf @ Aug 10 2013, 09:01 PM) Yes! Got the winner of the Rose of Lancaster Stakes with David Livingston winning at 15-2 with Telescope second and Noble Mission third. well done I occasionally go to the races. Not that I know much, but friends and family are mad on it. They have concerts afterwards sometimes too...bonus! My failsafe method of picking winners is to go for those that have names linked to songs or pop stars or sci fi. Sadly, I'd have gone for Telescope....


Mack. View member profile	Aug 15 2013, 06:49 PM Post #5
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	MAIN SATURDAY RACES: 2:40 NEWBURY BETFRED TV GEOFFREY FREER STAKES (Group 3) £60,000 1m 5f 61y Aiken 4-1f Biographer 9-2 I'm Your Man 9-2 Lost In The Moment 5-1 Royal Empire 5-1 Red Cadeaux 8-1 Model Pupil 12-1 Testudo 16-1 Genzy 33-1 Ralston Road 40-1 3:15 NEWBURY BETFRED HUNGERFORD STAKES (Group 2) £100,000 7f Soft Falling Rain 5-4f Caspar Netscher 10-3 Tawaid 9-2 Gregorian 5-1 Libranno 12-1 Who are you backing? This post has been edited by kenukcsf: Aug 15 2013, 06:49 PM


Mack. View member profile	Aug 21 2013, 10:18 AM Post #6
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	YORK 3:45 JUDDMONTE INTERNATIONAL STAKES Al Kazeem 6-4f Toronado 7-4 Trading Leather 6-1 Declaration of War 10-1 Hillstar 11-1 Rewarded 100-1 Who are you backing today?


Mack. View member profile	Mar 6 2014, 09:56 PM Post #7
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	BUMP Cheltenham Gold Cup 2014 Odds: (Coral) Bobs Worth 7-4f Silvinaico Conti 3-1 Last Instalment 5-1 Captain Chris 14-1 The Giant Bolster 14-1 Triolo D'Alene 16-1 Rocky Creek 20-1 Dynaste 20-1 Harry Topper 25-1 Boston Bob 25-1 On His Own 25-1 Long Run 33-1 Lord Windermere 40-1 Teaforthree 40-1 Lyreen Legend 40-1 Unioniste 40-1 Cloudy Too 40-1 Mount Benbulben 50-1 Houblon Des Obeaux 50-1 Katenko 66-1 Medermit 66-1 Roi Du Mee 66-1 Bog Warrior 80-1 Vino Griego 100-1 Who will you be backing for the Gold Cup?


Mack. View member profile	Mar 7 2014, 08:17 PM Post #8
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Champion Hurdle (Coral) [Tuesday] Hurricane Fly 11-4f The New One 5-2 Our Conor 4-1 My Tent or Yours 4-1 Annie Power 7-1 (Most likely to run in World Hurdle) Jezki 8-1 Un De Sceaux 14-1 Melodic Rendezvous 16-1 Ptit Zig 40-1 Grumeti 100-1 Thousand Stars 100-1 Captain Cee Bee 100-1 Champion Chase [Wednesday] Sire De Grugy 2-1f Captain Conan 5-1 Arvika Ligeonniere 5-1 Benefficent 5-1 Baily Green 8-1 Kid Cassidy 9-1 Hinterland 12-1 Sizing Europe 12-1 Somersby 14-1 Module 16-1 Special Tiara 16-1 Wishfull Thinking 20-1 World Hurdle (Thursday) Annie Power 15-8f Big Bucks 11-4 At Fishers Cross 7-1 More of That 7-1 Rule The World 8-1 Zarkandar 10-1 Salubrious 20-1 Celestial Halo 20-1 Reve De Sivola 25-1 Boston Bob 25-1 Mala Beach 33-1 Thousand Stars 40-1 Mickie 50-1 Medinas 66-1 Trustan Times 100-1 Gold Cup Movers: First Lieutenant 14-1 Bog Warrior 66-1 from 80-1 Who will you be backing in those championship races?


Mack. View member profile	Mar 8 2014, 05:20 PM Post #9
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Rocky Creek out of Gold Cup due to ringworm. This post has been edited by Mack: Mar 8 2014, 05:21 PM


Rooney View member profile	Mar 8 2014, 06:26 PM Post #10
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,595 User: 88	Not massively in to the jumps (Grand National aside). More of a flat racing guy!


Philip View member profile	Mar 8 2014, 09:05 PM Post #11
Creator/ Joined: 2 March 2006 Posts: 8,048 User: 1	QUOTE(Rooney @ Mar 8 2014, 06:26 PM) Not massively in to the jumps (Grand National aside). More of a flat racing guy! love the grand national!!! Only horse race I bet on


seven. View member profile	Mar 11 2014, 04:10 AM Post #12
i can only do one normal thing a day Joined: 25 July 2011 Posts: 19,611 User: 14,428	o hi again chelts festival my picks for the first day~ 1.30: Vautour 2.05: Trifolium 2.40: Wrong Turn 3.20: My Tent Or Yours 4.00: Quevega 4.40: Foxrock 5.15: Present View may go e/w on Vaniteux (1.30) and Manyriverstocross (5.15)


Mack. View member profile	Mar 11 2014, 05:49 PM Post #13
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Good day for you, SevenSeize. 3 wins today, a runner-up in the Champion Hurdle and a third in the Arkle. Fantastic Quevega winning her 6th Mares Hurdle. What a horse she is. The first ever 6-time Cheltenham Festival winner surpassing Golden Miller's record. The Champion Hurdle tainted by the sad news of Our Conor who had be put down after a heavy fall. Quite a shock in the Arkle. 33-1 Western Warhorse for David Pipe and Tom Scuadmore pipping Champagne Fever on the line. Here's the racecard for tomorrow


Mack. View member profile	Mar 11 2014, 05:49 PM Post #14
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Double post This post has been edited by Mack: Mar 11 2014, 09:50 PM


seven. View member profile	Mar 11 2014, 05:49 PM Post #15
i can only do one normal thing a day Joined: 25 July 2011 Posts: 19,611 User: 14,428	condolences to the connections of Our Conor went e/w on My Tent or Yours (3/1), Vaniteux (11/1) and Present View (8/1) so very pleased with those


Mack. View member profile	Mar 11 2014, 09:52 PM Post #16
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Tomorrow: 2:05- Annacotty 2:40- Kaylif Aramis 3:20- Arvika Ligeonniere


Mack. View member profile	Mar 12 2014, 07:57 PM Post #17
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Only a second for me today with Ballyalton in the opener at 20-1 Well done to Sire De Grugy for winning the Champion Chase. Bad news though about a second fatality with Akdam in the Fred Winter and also wishing a good recovery for Bryan Cooper who sustained a broken leg in the same race.


seven. View member profile	Mar 12 2014, 08:49 PM Post #18
i can only do one normal thing a day Joined: 25 July 2011 Posts: 19,611 User: 14,428	got Morning Assembly and Katgary on e/w (9/1 and 8/1 respectively), as well as Balthazar King. didn't have much luck with Clondaw Kaempfer and Dunguib in the 2.40 really unfortunate to hear the news re: akdam & bryan cooper!


Mack. View member profile	Mar 13 2014, 08:32 PM Post #19
It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva Joined: 1 February 2011 Posts: 53,592 User: 12,915	Today for me. I had the winner at the 4:40 with Spring Heeled and second in the World Hurdle with Annie Power. Complete Racecard for the Cheltenham Gold Cup: 1. Bobs Worth Barry Geraghty 7-4f 2. Cloudy Too Jonathan England 66-1 3. First Lieutenant David Casey 10-1 4. Houblon Des Obeaux Liam Treadwell 100-1 5. Katenko A Aidan Coleman 66-1 6. Knockara Beau Jan Faltesjesk 66-1 7. Last Instalment Brian O'Connell 9-1 8. Lord Windermere Davy Russell 22-1 9. Lyreen Legend Paul Carberry 40-1 10. On His Own Ruby Walsh 16-1 11. Silviniaco Conti Noel Fehily 3-1 12. Teaforthree Nick Scholfield 50-1 13. The Giant Bolster Tom Scuadmore 14-1 14. Triolo D'Alene Tony McCoy 12-1 Who will you be backing for the Gold Cup? Me, I'm going for Sliviniaco Conti to win and e/w on On His Own and Teaforthree.


seven. View member profile	Mar 14 2014, 04:50 PM Post #20
i can only do one normal thing a day Joined: 25 July 2011 Posts: 19,611 User: 14,428	good day for me; Arctic Fire, The Giant Bolster & Pearlysteps all placed in e/w bets thus far! still got Tanks For That to go in the last race on the other end of the spectrum, had a separate bet on Silviniaco Conti to win + a failed placepot (never had much luck on those this wk anyway) good on you Mack for backing On His Own, almost a winner there even!