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Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 5th July 2021, 07:30 PM

As it says on the tin, !! Please vote for your fave lead singles by both Dannii and Kylie and also vote for your worst single by both.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 5th July 2021, 07:44 PM

Kylie:

BEST: Better The Devil You Know
WORST: 2 Hearts

Dannii:

BEST: So Under Pressure
WORST: Love + Kisses

Posted by: Red Blooded Man 5th July 2021, 09:39 PM

Kylie:

BEST: Can't Get You Out of My Head
WORST: Word Is Out

Dannii:

BEST: Put the Needle On It
WORST: Show You the Way To Go

Posted by: pippa 5th July 2021, 09:53 PM

All The Lovers.
2 Hearts.

So Under Pressure.
Show You The Way To Go.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 5th July 2021, 10:54 PM

Kylie
Best All the lovers with devil in a close 2nd.
Worst Confide in me ( surprise surprise )

Dannii
Best All I wanna do ( she has far better other singles though for me)
Worst Show you the way to go.

Posted by: tommie 6th July 2021, 04:45 AM

Kylie - Best: Confide In Me.
Probably her most daring and most confident record.

Worst: Into The Blue.
It's an ok song... but it felt a bit basic Kylie at that point.

Dannii - Best: Put the Needle On It.
Or "Put the Dick On It" as certain Top Fans claimed it should be called.

Worst: Show You The Way To Go.
Pretty basic cover. Ok but nothing more.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th July 2021, 09:55 AM

Confide in me was very daring to be fair and it worked to the point of getting people to see kylie differently which is what she wanted, I'd also say both her and the label really wanted the number 1 with but sadly missed out.
I do like into the blue but it lacked the stand out moment that she needed for the lead single, it felt more like a 3rd or 4th single but it was the right choice of lead single with what was on offer from kiss me once.
2 hearts again a good song but its downside was it didnt represent the album and more annoyingly for me it wasnt the best song from the album and others would have made a better lead. For me 2 hearts and some kind of bliss were both songs the labels thought had to be leads or not singles at all but in some kind of bliss I understand the decision more and I also happen to really like it.
With Dannii her second album was all wrong and it done alot of damage to her music career, dannii def needed more this is it sounding tracks at the time to keep getting hits and sustain the momentum from love and kisses album.

Posted by: vibe 6th July 2021, 10:15 AM

The production in SYTWTG is good, the song however is way to long !!!

Dannii's best lead this week i chose AIWD, PTNOI is also great.

I choose SUP for worse song, just because of the lazy chorus !!!

Kylie - ATL wins, ITB loses.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th July 2021, 12:25 PM

Both kylie and dannii have some far stronger follow up singles than the leads but dannii for me never really picked the right lead single for any of her albums.

Posted by: pippa 6th July 2021, 12:43 PM

I Begin To Wonder should have become Neon Nights lead single, due to its popularity and following on from Who Do You Love Now may have helped Put The Needle In It to achieve Top 5 status.
2 Hearts as a lead ahead of The One and Like a Drug is one of the most stupid decisions in Kylie's lead decisions.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 6th July 2021, 01:06 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Jul 6 2021, 01:25 PM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th July 2021, 01:07 PM

X was one of Kylies most frustrating eras as a fan purely because i feel the album could have been so much bigger if they singles had been chosen differently, also with X they left off some tracks that were so much stronger than songs that made the album, i think with more clever decision making X would have easily went double platinum in its initial time scale and would in time picked up extra sales that would now see the album closer to 700k.

Body Language, i think they pretty much made the right call with the singles but they went so wrong with the sound, as it in general wasn't what the general public or the fans wanted from Kylie, songs like the one, like a drug and i believe in you type songs would have been the ideal sounding album to have followed Fever and again if it went that way Kylie would have had a much higher seller than body language achieved, slow and red blooded woman or chocolate would have been good enough to promote ultimate Kylie but an album of the sound it was too much.

Dannii along with a really bad choice of sound for the second album has suffered greatly from been with the wrong label, its a huge shame about the lack of follow up to neon nights, i think in general musically she was at her most popular and then her joining the x factor made her more popular all round but she never managed to capitalize on it at all, if Dannii had the right label she could have used the show to her advantage just like Cheryl did and things may have been different for Dannii. If Danii had a new album and strong lead performed on the show she could have easily managed to have equaled the success of neon nights as back then an x factor performance had a big impact.

Posted by: vibe 6th July 2021, 01:10 PM

AIWD was clearly the best song from girl to go with. It sold 72,000 copies in the first week , for one week in 1997 it would have made number 1 !!!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th July 2021, 01:21 PM

With all i wanna do is a shame she didn't manage to have a big follow up, Girl as an album deserved so so much more than it got chart and sales wise although it took me years to dicover or appreciate it but i didnt get there in the end.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 6th July 2021, 01:38 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Jul 6 2021, 02:07 PM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th July 2021, 01:40 PM

I do give her credit for that but i think she could have taken the risk but a safer one, songs like like a drug, the one and i believe in you to me feel like natural follow ups to fever but yet not making the mistake of fever part 2. To kylies credit she always knows how to change things up with each album.

Posted by: pippa 6th July 2021, 02:09 PM

Body Language was brave but possibly too brave at that time, the success of Fever was off the scale worldwide and a safer follow up would have stood Kylie's career better.
That said, Slow was a Number 1 and sadly her last time getting there.
Ultimate Kylie was served at the right time and reversed the sales decline and I Believe in You was a wonderful single to promote the collection and it would have been lovely if it had managed Number 1 status.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th July 2021, 02:45 PM

It was such a shame i believe in you was up against band aid as otherwise it would have been an 8th number 1 for Kylie but as we said before many of kylies greats ended up with a number 2.

Posted by: Nina West 6th July 2021, 03:58 PM

Kylie
BEST: Better The Devil You Know
WORST: Some Kind of Bliss

Dannii
BEST: All I Wanna Do
WORST: Show You The Way To Go

Posted by: Nina West 6th July 2021, 04:04 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Jul 6 2021, 02:07 PM)

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 6th July 2021, 04:10 PM

QUOTE(Nina West @ Jul 6 2021, 05:04 PM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th July 2021, 09:47 PM

I pretty much agree with your single choices, although i would have had like a drug as the 2nd or 3rd single.

Posted by: pippa 6th July 2021, 11:00 PM

The One is the song I believe 90% of Kylie's fanbase wanted as the lead single from X.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 7th July 2021, 12:12 AM

I would have been equally happy with the one or like a drug as the lead both are brill and album highlights for me.With other leads I sometimes wonder how the 2nd singles would have performed as leads, in X case we know better as that happened but with IP for example I wonder would it have made any difference at all or let's get to it.

Posted by: Nina West 7th July 2021, 08:27 AM

Posted by: pippa 7th July 2021, 11:12 PM

1. All the Lovers.
2. Better The Devil You Know.
3. Say Something.
4. Dancing.
5. I Should Be So Lucky.
6. Hand on Your Heart.
7. I Believe in You.
8. Slow.
9.Cant Get You Out of my Head.
10.Some Kind of Bliss.
11. Confide in Me.
12. What Kind of Fool (Heard all that Before).
13. Word Is Out.
14. Spinning Around.
15. Into The Blue.
16. 2 Hearts.

1.So Under Pressure.
2.All I Wanna Do.
3.Touch Me Like That.
4.Put The Needle On It.
5.Love and Kisses.
6.Show You The Way To Go.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th July 2021, 12:56 AM

Apart from 2 hearts what other songs would you swap for different lead singles ?

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 9th July 2021, 09:52 AM

Oooh, I genuinely don't know actually.

With a couple of them that didn't quite work out (Word Is Out, Some Kind of Bliss) I can see why they were chosen and I don't quite know what else I would have gone with as a lead single. Maybe 'Limbo' or 'Did It Again' for IP to see what would have happened out of interest.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th July 2021, 01:07 PM

With some kind of bliss totally see where they were going with it and i understand why it was the lead, im lucky as in i really love the song and was happy with it when i heard it, i do think Limbo may have possibly done slightly better as a lead and at least went top 20 but i dont think overall it would have made much of a difference.
Word is out again is another one of those tracks that if it wasnt the lead i dont think it could have been a single and its the same really for some kind of bliss. I do think though with lets get to it any of the singles that followed would have been better leads and the album might have gone top 10 for her, its a shame the album missed the top 10 and didnt even come close really. I think all the other albums had the right lead singles and they worked and the follow ups also kept the momentum going.

Posted by: pippa 10th July 2021, 01:36 PM

I wonder had Dannii worked with Pwl would bigger hits have been achieved. Obviously Dannii kept away to decrease the already existing Kylie comparisons but the output could have been interesting.
Let's Get To It, suffered as it regressed in both sound and quality served on Rhythm of Love and Pwl came across as lost in how to market the album
The sound of the singles is Kylie's most inconsistent as each single was so different and felt very disconnected.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th July 2021, 07:49 PM

I actually think pwl and dannii could have done something good together in the early days but id say dannii wouldn't have went near them as she would have got mauled in the press for copying kylie, im also not sure if pwl would have worked with dannii as the journey would probably be just to similar to Kylie. If they had worked together i think material similar to this is out would have been the outcome.

Posted by: PAJ 12th July 2021, 11:03 PM

Kylie
Best: Better The Devil You Know
Worst: Can’t Get You Out Of My Head

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 13th July 2021, 11:00 AM

That's a very interesting choice for worst, did u ever like the song or was it the over exposure for a while that put you off.

Posted by: pippa 13th July 2021, 10:43 PM

I think there was a period of overplay that some people found off putting.
For a period I enjoyed it less than usual but returned to enjoying and appreciating the song again.