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Posted by: Jonjo 3rd May 2020, 12:06 AM



HELLOOOOOO!

ROUND 1: FREE CHOICE
> Any song by your artist. <

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It's a TRIPLE ELIMINATION this round.

You all have until 3rd May 23:59, to help the moderators decide what to go for. There are 16 rounds overall and they are THEMED (moderators, please see AF Moderating Forum - no reveal of the themes though, please.)

Posted by: Jonjo 3rd May 2020, 12:58 AM

How do you think 'Stupid Girls' or 'Blow Me (One Last Kiss)' would fair in the first round of free choice? ohmy.gif

Posted by: Infludexton* 3rd May 2020, 04:10 AM

Stupid Girls would be a great shot! Raise Your Glass ?

Posted by: T Boy 3rd May 2020, 07:24 AM

Hmmm, I love both Jonjo’s suggestions. I think Blow Me is the stronger track but it’s so hard to gauge what will work. She went out with Don’t Let Me Get Me last time to Zara Larsson of all people!

Posted by: Scene 3rd May 2020, 09:05 AM

U +Ur Hand?

Or is that too obscure these days? unsure.gif

Posted by: Jonjo 3rd May 2020, 09:59 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ May 3 2020, 08:24 AM) *
Hmmm, I love both Jonjo’s suggestions. I think Blow Me is the stronger track but it’s so hard to gauge what will work. She went out with Don’t Let Me Get Me last time to Zara Larsson of all people!
I was actually gonna suggest DLMGM for this round but thought it was too popular to use so early.

Id much rather go for that tbh. wub.gif

Posted by: Andrew. 3rd May 2020, 12:24 PM

I’m not a Pink expert but ‘True Love’ could be a shout. Not only is it an amazing pop song but it did cutely on the charts and even if it’s not a standout in her discography it could deffo beat three songs.

Posted by: troublepink 3rd May 2020, 12:58 PM

I think Blow me would be a good choice for this round. Its done really well in the recent singles poll but I wouldn't say it's one of her best hits? So it would probably be better to use it now than in later rounds?

Posted by: Jordan Lee 3rd May 2020, 12:59 PM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ May 3 2020, 01:58 AM) *
How do you think 'Stupid Girls' or 'Blow Me (One Last Kiss)' would fair in the first round of free choice? ohmy.gif


Blow Me is a great choice.

Stupid Girls I think has a fanbase for sure but I still think it’s amongst her worst.

Posted by: Jonjo 3rd May 2020, 01:45 PM

Just fyi @trouble & T Boy, once you've come to a firm decision, PM me with your choice before 23:59 tonight. biggrin.gif

Posted by: T Boy 3rd May 2020, 04:26 PM

QUOTE(troublepink @ May 3 2020, 01:58 PM) *
I think Blow me would be a good choice for this round. Its done really well in the recent singles poll but I wouldn't say it's one of her best hits? So it would probably be better to use it now than in later rounds?


I’ve just messaged you but I feel the same way about this. Blow Me is fairly popular but she also has much more popular hits we can save for later.

Stupid Girls I’d rule out, it’s amazing but people don’t think they same way as they did in 2006 anymore.

Posted by: Nick F1 3rd May 2020, 04:58 PM

U + Ur Hand definitely

Posted by: Scene 3rd May 2020, 07:47 PM

QUOTE(Nick F1 @ May 3 2020, 05:58 PM) *
U + Ur Hand definitely


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Posted by: Jonjo 3rd May 2020, 07:56 PM

U + Ur Hand could be used later tbh! It's v popular on BJ iirc

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd May 2020, 11:42 PM

I think blow me would be good for this round, its among her most popular songs but she has one or 2 more popular than it also.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 4th May 2020, 07:16 PM

Great choice, i have put through my votes now and Pink made my list biggrin.gif

Posted by: troublepink 5th May 2020, 07:47 AM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ May 4 2020, 08:16 PM) *
Great choice, i have put through my votes now and Pink made my list biggrin.gif


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Posted by: T Boy 5th May 2020, 10:54 AM

I hope she gets through, I feel like it’s a really strong song and some of the others....aren’t.

Posted by: Jonjo 5th May 2020, 01:41 PM

I'd say this is a safe choice! I really can't see it coming close to the bottom 3!

Posted by: Scene 7th May 2020, 06:46 PM

For round 2 I'd say Get This Party Started, So What or What About Us. I love Trouble but I don't know how the forum feels about it.

Posted by: Liam.k. 7th May 2020, 06:55 PM

'Trouble' is probably too unknown compared to what others will be sending.

'Raise Your Glass' could be good for this round?

Posted by: Jonjo 7th May 2020, 07:01 PM

I'd say WAU or RYG would be perfect for now. I'd personally prefer the latter wub.gif

Posted by: Jordan Lee 7th May 2020, 07:18 PM

I’d send There You Go or What About Us.

Trouble is a no go. Stupid Girls is also divisive.

Get The Party Started and So What for later rounds.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 7th May 2020, 08:06 PM

What about us for round 2 please.

Posted by: troublepink 8th May 2020, 07:57 AM

So for this round we can choose from:

There you go Her first era isn't popular enough to go with TYG
Get the party started Could work, is it considered a pop classic? Its not one of my favourite Pink songs but its one of her most popular
Trouble (or do we count feel good time as the first single from try this? unsure.gif ) I don't think either trouble or FGT would be popular enough
Stupid girls I think this one could work, but it'd be a massive risk
So what Deffo one to save for later!
Raise your glass Another one I feel could be saved for later
What about us Could work, it was a great come back song and started off one of her strongest eras
Walk me home Not sure, its recent, but given its very little promo, is it well liked here? Popular enough to get through? Could we use this as a risk so that we can save the bigger hits until later?

Given those thoughts I'd either go with Get the party started or What about us, while also considering Walk me home and RYG

Posted by: T Boy 8th May 2020, 09:30 AM

There You Go-no from me
Get The Party Started-I think this is quite popular with general pop fans, more than it is with Pink fans. I think it’s a big contender.
Trouble-popular with Pink fans but I’m not sure outside of that. (FGT wouldn’t work at all)
Stupid Girls-I love it but it’d be a huge risk. People don’t like the message these days.
So What-the best one here but definitely save it for later!
Raise Your Glass-another contender but maybe one to save?
What About Us-this could work. I do recall it being popular.
Walk Me Home-I don’t think this one would work.

I feel my top 3 choices would be

1) Get The Party Started
2) What About Us
3) Raise Your Glass

Ironically we used my favourite lead for the first round drama.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th May 2020, 01:44 PM

What about us and get the party started I think either of these would be best.

Posted by: Infludexton* 8th May 2020, 01:48 PM

Stupid Girls is my favourite from that list but I agree it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, I think Get This Party Started is a good choice and a great throwback

Posted by: T Boy 8th May 2020, 04:10 PM

Shall I message Jonjo, we have less than an hour!

Posted by: troublepink 8th May 2020, 04:20 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ May 8 2020, 05:10 PM) *
Shall I message Jonjo, we have less than an hour!


Yep do it! Didn't realise the deadline laugh.gif


Posted by: troublepink 11th May 2020, 06:22 PM

We got through with get the party started 🎉

Next round - a song without a music video

The first one that came to my mind is I'm not dead?

Any other suggestions?

Posted by: Scene 11th May 2020, 06:42 PM

One Foot Wrong or It's All Your Fault? Or Dear Mr President if the live video doesn't count?

Posted by: Jonjo 11th May 2020, 06:51 PM

Live video's don't count.

(But music videos where the tour footage is their official music video is not allowed - example: P!nk - Leave Me Alone/Little Mix - Change Your Life/Nothing Else Matters etc..)

Posted by: T Boy 11th May 2020, 06:54 PM

It’s a toughie but it needs to be something people will know. Dear Mr President is a shout. Maybe Bad Influence? I know some of her recent singles have no video but I really don’t think her new material will work.

Posted by: Scene 11th May 2020, 06:57 PM

Tbh I can't remember if DMP's video is live or just an official tour montage video. laugh.gif

Posted by: T Boy 11th May 2020, 06:58 PM

Leave Me Alone was a tour montage so I don’t think DMP was as they were released together.

Posted by: Jonjo 11th May 2020, 08:41 PM

Just had an update and want to officially clarify that DMP can NOT be used after all sad.gif

Sorry.

Posted by: Scene 11th May 2020, 09:06 PM

Hmmm what Pink album tracks do casual Pink fans know and like? It's All Your Fault is the only one coming to me.

Did A Million Dreams have a video?

Posted by: Rush 11th May 2020, 09:26 PM

'Bad Influence' seems like a strong choice to me - I'm biased because it was a single and a big hit in Australia, but I'd assume its partial single status (it was also a single in Germany/Austria/Switzerland in 2010, and the Netherlands in 2011) would make it better known than any album tracks?

If we're talking Australian singles there's also 'Cuz I Can', but I strongly expect I'm alone in my love for that laugh.gif

Posted by: Scene 11th May 2020, 09:36 PM

Bad Influence is a good shout!

Posted by: Spiceboy 11th May 2020, 11:08 PM

18 wheeler is a STRONG one for P!NK I bloody love that track. Maybe Missundaztood as people will associate it with the album?

Posted by: WinterFreeze 12th May 2020, 04:53 AM

I’m Not Dead, Ave Mary A, Heartbreak Down or Long Way To Happy.

Posted by: WinterFreeze 12th May 2020, 04:56 AM

QUOTE(Rush @ May 11 2020, 09:26 PM) *
'Bad Influence' seems like a strong choice to me - I'm biased because it was a single and a big hit in Australia, but I'd assume its partial single status (it was also a single in Germany/Austria/Switzerland in 2010, and the Netherlands in 2011) would make it better known than any album tracks?

If we're talking Australian singles there's also 'Cuz I Can', but I strongly expect I'm alone in my love for that laugh.gif


Love Cuz I Can but didn’t it have a live video?

Posted by: Rush 12th May 2020, 05:30 AM

^ Looks like it did! Didn't know. (Not sure where the line is drawn between 'live video' and 'live performance', but Wikipedia calls it a music video at least.)

On that note, 'Glitter In The Air' had the big Grammys performance but doesn't look like it exists as a music video - is that song popular here? I don't think it'd make my vote personally but it might be better known than 'Bad Influence'.

Posted by: T Boy 12th May 2020, 07:38 AM

People often won’t vote for songs they don’t know in this. Bad Influence and Glitter In The Air are both quite well known and I’m leaning more towards the former. There’s also Can We Pretend which I don’t think has a video but was a single but I really don’t think that one will do well.

Posted by: Dexton 12th May 2020, 07:46 AM

I think Bad Influence is sure to get her through, it’s in my top 3 o from that album for sure

Posted by: Jonjo 12th May 2020, 06:04 PM

7PM - FIVE HOUR WARNING

FIVE HOURS LEFT TO GET CONFIRMATIONS SENT VIA PM TO ONE OF THE INNER CIRCLE MODERATORS (Myself, Haus, Jay, Wall, Ultra or JosephStyles). biggrin.gif

(If you have PM'd your entry to one of us, let me know with a quick PM confirming your entry, again - before the deadline)

Posted by: T Boy 13th May 2020, 01:12 PM

I’ve seen a few people saying they’ve only just discovered Bad Influence and it’s made their top 11. We love to see it!

Posted by: troublepink 15th May 2020, 09:27 AM

Think she's doing pretty well!

Posted by: Scene 15th May 2020, 06:31 PM

Try is winning the best Pink single of the decade poll so maybe that for free choice. kink.gif I think Who Knew or What About Us could be a good shout though!

Posted by: Dexton 15th May 2020, 06:39 PM

Who Knew I can see being an easy win tbh whereas What About Us is maybe more of a risk to send? WK is arguably my favourite Pink song but WAU isn’t something I can say I’ve ever gone back to

That’s my opinion though tongue.gif

Posted by: T Boy 15th May 2020, 07:11 PM

What About Us isn’t that popular. It’s what lost out to a Basic Zara Larsson song last year.

Who Knew and Try are good shouts. I think perhaps we could afford to go with a pretty popular track this time round and I don’t think either of them fit the criteria for later rounds.

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th May 2020, 07:18 PM

'Who Knew' and 'Try' seem like good choices for now! Both would probably get my vote.

Posted by: troublepink 15th May 2020, 08:03 PM

I'm thinking raise your glass for this round?

Who knew and try are far too popular to be sending yet, between those two, and so what and just like a pill, are four that we should hang on to I think

Posted by: Scene 15th May 2020, 08:23 PM

How is U + Ur Hand regarded? It's my favourite ever Pink single (well top 3 at least kink.gif) but is it a forgotten gem these days?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th May 2020, 08:29 PM

just like a pill

Posted by: Rush 15th May 2020, 08:32 PM

QUOTE(Scene @ May 16 2020, 06:23 AM) *
How is U + Ur Hand regarded? It's my favourite ever Pink single (well top 3 at least kink.gif) but is it a forgotten gem these days?
I wonder the same about 'Sober'. I love both (whereas 'Raise Your Glass' I really like but it's not quite one of my favourites).

Posted by: Scene 15th May 2020, 08:39 PM

QUOTE(Rush @ May 15 2020, 09:32 PM) *
I wonder the same about 'Sober'. I love both (whereas 'Raise Your Glass' I really like but it's not quite one of my favourites).


Yeah I've never liked RYG. Not that I dislike it but I don't care for it lol.

Or F**kin' Perfect could be an option!

Posted by: T Boy 15th May 2020, 09:06 PM

QUOTE(troublepink @ May 15 2020, 09:03 PM) *
I'm thinking raise your glass for this round?

Who knew and try are far too popular to be sending yet, between those two, and so what and just like a pill, are four that we should hang on to I think


This is the first of the probably a few remaining free choice rounds and i feel we could afford to go with one of them now. So What and Just Like A Pill should obviously be saved for much later but I think we’re at a point where we could go with either Try or Who Knew.


I dunno, I just feel we should use a popular track if we can get away with it.

Posted by: Rush 15th May 2020, 09:15 PM

^ You're not meant to say what the upcoming rounds are publicly! Everything I just read is news to me ph34r.gif

Posted by: T Boy 15th May 2020, 09:18 PM

QUOTE(Rush @ May 15 2020, 10:15 PM) *
^ You're not meant to say what the upcoming rounds are publicly! Everything I just read is news to me ph34r.gif


What are you talking about? laugh.gif

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th May 2020, 09:24 PM

How is 'Get the Party Started' regarded? I know it's classic but is it one that should be left until later?

Posted by: T Boy 15th May 2020, 09:25 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ May 15 2020, 10:24 PM) *
How is 'Get the Party Started' regarded? I know it's classic but is it one that should be left until later?


We used that in round 2.

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th May 2020, 09:30 PM

Lol, that completely passed me by and I even voted for it! drama.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 16th May 2020, 07:23 AM

Who Knew would be a great choice!

Posted by: Scene 16th May 2020, 10:38 AM

Or Lady Marmalade. kink.gif

Posted by: Spiceboy 16th May 2020, 04:32 PM

Lady Marmalade would be a great choice, or Just like a pill perhaps, maybe Don't let me get me?

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th May 2020, 01:38 PM

Try is a brill choice, its my one of my absolute faves from her.

Posted by: Scene 19th May 2020, 06:39 PM

Pink's last singles rate was in 2013. laugh.gif

Bottom 3 were You Make Me Sick, Bridge of Light and There You Go.

I'd go with one of the CTMH singles tbh - maybe There You Go. They aren't even bad choices tbf just not really the Pink everyone loves.

Posted by: T Boy 19th May 2020, 07:48 PM

Wow has it really been that long?

There You Go would be my pick of those 3. Bridge Of Light is good but it’s very unknown which could go against it. You Make Me Sick is the worst one but it might just be too bad.

There You Go is very good for what it is. It’s no Pink fan’s favourite Pink song but it might interest casual voters. I mean, I’m biased but I find a lot of the music by most of the artists involved to be on a par with There You Go, I feel some posters may prefer RnB Pink over pop rock Pink.

Posted by: Scene 19th May 2020, 07:54 PM

Yeah I'd go with TYG too.

Posted by: Liam.k. 19th May 2020, 07:54 PM

'There You Go' seems the best choice. It's not even a bad song, it's just not what people are really here for with P!nk, and it is somewhat known among chart fans that it's her first single, so I think all that could work in its favour compared to other AFs who have to pick songs that are bad and unfamiliar.

Posted by: pippa 20th May 2020, 12:05 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ May 19 2020, 08:54 PM) *
'There You Go' seems the best choice. It's not even a bad song, it's just not what people are really here for with P!nk, and it is somewhat known among chart fans that it's her first single, so I think all that could work in its favour compared to other AFs who have to pick songs that are bad and unfamiliar.


It would be the best option from the limited songs to choose from.

Posted by: T Boy 20th May 2020, 02:11 PM

I’ve put There You Go forward for this round.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 20th May 2020, 04:34 PM

There You Go is definitely not a bottom 3 Pink song for me!

Easily one of my favourites in that poll so she got my vote smile.gif

Posted by: T Boy 22nd May 2020, 06:16 PM

So this is all we can pick from for the next round.

P!nk
#82 – Won’t Back Down [Eminem]
#88 – Can We Pretend [Cash Cash]
#103 – Heartbreak Down

It’s a bit rubbish really. I don’t like this round at all. We could have had Bad Influence but we already have. I might not have used if I’d known it had charted because I don’t have any access to too 200 charts and it didn’t go top 100.

What does everyone think? I don’t think it matters, there’s nothing amazing there and there’s a good chance this will be Pink’s last round.

Posted by: Liam.k. 22nd May 2020, 06:19 PM

'Heartbreak Down' is my favourite there, would most likely get my vote! I guess 'Can We Pretend' would be the most known out of the three.

Posted by: Dexton 22nd May 2020, 06:22 PM

A few other AFs have crap choices too (or no choice) so don’t lose hope yet!

Can We Pretend seems like the best option here. I loooove Won’t Back Down but no way is an Eminem song an option here laugh.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles 22nd May 2020, 06:23 PM

Can We Pretend would be my pick, and it'd be likely to feature in my votes too wub.gif

Posted by: Klaus 22nd May 2020, 06:27 PM

I love Won’t Back Down!!

Posted by: T Boy 22nd May 2020, 06:29 PM

I think the Eminem song has to be out. Buzzjack at large will not go for it.

I love Can We Pretend and it is the best known but I don’t remember it getting a good reception. Heartbreak Down is a bit more unknown and closer to classic Pink but people may just call it MOR Pink.

I’m not sure. Convince me, people.

Posted by: Dexton 22nd May 2020, 06:36 PM

I think peoples major gripe with Can We Pretend at first (or mine anyway) was that it wasn’t a Pink song, rather a Cash Cash song with Pink vocals that was for some reason on her album. It was jarring in comparison to the rest of the album and didn’t fit - but as a single it’s a great song.

It’s well known in Australia laugh.gif A basic feel good dance song + Pink vocals is a sure fire radio hit here lol

Posted by: Rush 22nd May 2020, 06:58 PM

'Can We Pretend' was incredibly average I felt. I find it hard to imagine many people wanting to vote it unless they have no better options.

'Heartbreak Down' is definitely better I think, and I feel like it might be better known through being on her Greatest Hits?

I had to remind myself how 'Won't Back Down' sounds - it's my favourite of the 3, but yeah an Eminem song probably wouldn't be a good idea.

In retrospect, sorry for pushing for 'Bad Influence'; I obviously had no idea of this theme (or that it made the top 200) laugh.gif

Posted by: troublepink 22nd May 2020, 08:40 PM

I think can we pretend would be our best option here. Its more recent and was performed on tour last year

Heartbreak down... Maybe, but I fear its more unknown.

Im really torn between the two, but my gut says can we pretend

Posted by: Rush 23rd May 2020, 05:21 AM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ May 23 2020, 08:53 AM) *
We've CONFERRED and have decided to amend the rules slightly.

AFs may now submit ONE of the following:

- An album track that charted within #76-200.
- A fully promoted* single that missed the top 75 - this can include songs that missed the chart entirely.


That opens things up a little more for those feeling restricted, and applies to ALL AFs! Every song in the list in post 2 is eligible + any fully promoted single that failed to chart, basically.

* this means no radio-only singles!
^ The expanded rules may help P!nk, but I don't know what counts.

'Dear Mr. President' was a 'single' that didn't chart, but I'm assuming it has to be UK singles, and it's safe to say it wasn't one. 'Glitter In The Air' was just a US Hot AC/AC radio single I believe so that's almost certainly ruled out.

However, there are 'Whatever You Want' and 'Secrets'. It's a stretch to say they were promoted, but they both received music videos (I believe) and remix EPs, which is about all you could expect from post-album singles that clearly wouldn't get playlist support/chart success either way. (Even in Australia where both were radio hits, they spent a while each in the iTunes chart but never actually made the official top 100, apart from 'Whatever You Want' when it was an instant grat.)

I'm not sure if they'd be better choices than 'Can We Pretend' or 'Heartbreak Down', but I really like 'Whatever You Want'! 'Secrets' is good too.

Posted by: WinterFreeze 23rd May 2020, 07:27 AM

Heartbreak Down gets my vote here and almost certainly in round 5

Posted by: Dexton 23rd May 2020, 07:50 AM

If Secrets is eligible that would 100% get my vote! It was my favourite single from that era wub.gif

Posted by: Rush 23rd May 2020, 08:44 AM

Update:

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ May 23 2020, 06:17 PM) *
No, they can be singles anywhere as long as it matches the criteria!
That means all the following are options:

Can We Pretend
Heartbreak Down
Dear Mr. President
Whatever You Want
Secrets
(Won't Back Down)

'Bridge Of Light' and 'Today's The Day' would probably count as singles but I doubt anyone would want them. 'Glitter In The Air' I think would be considered radio-only thus ineligible (and likewise for her various Australian radio singles).

'Whatever You Want' is still my favourite from the list, but 'Dear Mr. President' might be popular and well known? Or not? I have no idea.

Posted by: T Boy 23rd May 2020, 09:04 AM

Also wouldn’t Hurts 2B Human and Love You Anyway be eligible?

This opens things up a bit. Mainly to more recent Pink, which I don’t think non Pink stans on Buzzjack are here for, but it’s better than nothing.

We have until 6pm to make our decision. What does everyone think?

Posted by: Rush 23rd May 2020, 09:17 AM

QUOTE(T Boy @ May 23 2020, 07:04 PM) *
Also wouldn’t Hurts 2B Human and Love You Anyway be eligible?
Possibly, I'm not sure if they'd count as full singles or just radio ones (I didn't really pay attention to them). I don't think anyone would favour them though so it probably doesn't matter either way.

Posted by: Liam.k. 23rd May 2020, 10:22 AM

It might be worth querying about 'Glitter in the Air', it may have been a radio single in America but perhaps the Grammy performance and subsequent download release of it will make it eligible?

That said, 'Can We Pretend' may still have a bigger reach.

Posted by: troublepink 23rd May 2020, 10:30 AM

QUOTE(Rush @ May 23 2020, 09:44 AM) *
Update:
That means all the following are options:

Can We Pretend
Heartbreak Down
Dear Mr. President
Whatever You Want
Secrets
(Won't Back Down)

'Bridge Of Light' and 'Today's The Day' would probably count as singles but I doubt anyone would want them. 'Glitter In The Air' I think would be considered radio-only thus ineligible (and likewise for her various Australian radio singles).

'Whatever You Want' is still my favourite from the list, but 'Dear Mr. President' might be popular and well known? Or not? I have no idea.


In that case, dear Mr President, whatever you want and secrets are much better options than can we pretend or heartbreak down in my opinion 🤔

Posted by: T Boy 23rd May 2020, 11:42 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ May 23 2020, 11:22 AM) *
It might be worth querying about 'Glitter in the Air', it may have been a radio single in America but perhaps the Grammy performance and subsequent download release of it will make it eligible?

That said, 'Can We Pretend' may still have a bigger reach.


Even if it were eligible, I have something else in mind for Glitter In The Air should Pink make it through.

I feel like we’re looking at either Dear Mr President or Secrets. Possibly Can We Pretend.

Either way, I’m not sure how well we’ll do. I still don’t really like this round.

Posted by: Spiceboy 23rd May 2020, 12:21 PM

Glitter in the air is a good choice wub.gif

Posted by: George.keh 23rd May 2020, 03:02 PM

Ooo i love Secrets that would be a great choice

Posted by: Dexton 23rd May 2020, 03:15 PM

Dear Mr President is amazing, I’m shocked that wasn’t a massive hit! It’s definitely one of the most well remembered songs from that era for sure. Either go with that or Secrets for a more recent effort

Posted by: T Boy 23rd May 2020, 03:19 PM

QUOTE(Dexton @ May 23 2020, 04:15 PM) *
Dear Mr President is amazing, I’m shocked that wasn’t a massive hit! It’s definitely one of the most well remembered songs from that era for sure. Either go with that or Secrets for a more recent effort


I seem to remember it was going to be a double a side with Leave Me Alone (I’m Lonely) in the UK but at the time we’d just added loads of new download rules to the charts so I don’t think double a sides worked. LMA got the radio play and made the top 40 and did pretty well for the fifth single off a million selling album.

Anyway, I’ve sent Dear Mr President.

Posted by: Dexton 23rd May 2020, 03:23 PM

Yes cheer.gif

She’ll likely be getting her 6th vote from me

Posted by: Dexton 24th May 2020, 09:41 AM

QUOTE(Dexton @ May 23 2020, 11:23 PM) *
Yes cheer.gif

She’ll likely be getting her 6th vote from me


And she did! An incredible song and far it seems a lot of others are coming to the same conclusion which is amazing wub.gif Fingers crossed for another round of Pink! There’s nothing worse than being booted out of the contest before getting the chance to send many truly iconic songs but honestly (for me at least) this is one of her greatest

What round did Pink get to last time around?

Posted by: T Boy 24th May 2020, 11:16 AM

QUOTE(Dexton @ May 24 2020, 10:41 AM) *
And she did! An incredible song and far it seems a lot of others are coming to the same conclusion which is amazing wub.gif Fingers crossed for another round of Pink! There’s nothing worse than being booted out of the contest before getting the chance to send many truly iconic songs but honestly (for me at least) this is one of her greatest

What round did Pink get to last time around?


I think she may have fallen short of the final 10. It was just infuriating to see her go out in a tie break to Zara Larsson out of everyone.

Looking at the list, Dear Mr President is actually one of the most known songs on there, I think and even without bias, it’s the best song put forward. I’ve listened to all of them today and some of it was excruciating to listen to for me. There’s definitely a disparity between my taste and the general Buzzjack taste which I guess is why I always think Pink is gonna lose out laugh.gif

I think even out if what I voted for, Pink aside I only really enjoyed Gaga, Madonna and Kylie.

Posted by: T Boy 25th May 2020, 06:46 PM

So we need a love ballad album track.

The first things I can think of are Love Song and Wild Hearts Can’t Be Broken. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Posted by: Liam.k. 25th May 2020, 06:49 PM

Surely 'Glitter in the Air' would be perfect if it wasn't a 'proper' single?

Posted by: T Boy 25th May 2020, 07:53 PM

I’m still kind of hoping to keep Glitter In The Air for a specific round, though you’re right, it is perfect.

Her best ballad is I Don’t Believe You but alas, that was a single.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 25th May 2020, 07:57 PM

The Great Escape would definitely get my vote for this round but I don’t know how popular it is with others.

Posted by: Liam.k. 25th May 2020, 08:01 PM

Yeah I was thinking about 'I Don't Believe You' too; beautiful song which could have been perfect for a ballad round if it wasn't limited to album tracks. sad.gif

'Courage' maybe? The Sia association could work in its favour?

Posted by: troublepink 25th May 2020, 08:07 PM

OK my thoughts...
Long way to happy
The Great escape
Wild hearts can't be broken

🤔

Posted by: Jack 25th May 2020, 08:53 PM

Would Runaway count?? That's one of my favourite Pink album tracks!

Posted by: T Boy 25th May 2020, 09:27 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ May 25 2020, 09:53 PM) *
Would Runaway count?? That's one of my favourite Pink album tracks!


I love Runaway too! But I’m not sure it would count, I’ve no idea how tight the theme’s supposed to be.

Posted by: Nick F1 25th May 2020, 09:28 PM

Runaway or Long Way To Happy heart.gif

Posted by: Jonjo 25th May 2020, 10:22 PM

One of my favourite tracks by P!nk is 'Run'. But I don't think that's popular enough at all! </3

Just so you know 'Runaway' would be fine as a ballad, but I wouldn't say 'Long Way To Happy' would be eligible, I'm afraid.

But 'Runaway' would be a v solid choice!

Posted by: Spiceboy 25th May 2020, 11:14 PM

Dear Diary is my favourite P!nk ballad, but then I'm not too familiar with her albums post Mizundastood

Posted by: Jonjo 25th May 2020, 11:32 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ May 26 2020, 12:14 AM) *
Dear Diary is my favourite P!nk ballad, but then I'm not too familiar with her albums post Mizundastood
Whaaaat!

'I'm Not Dead' is one of the best albums of the 00's!

Posted by: T Boy 26th May 2020, 07:54 AM

I’m Not Dead is her best, please listen to it.

So Runaway is eligible? A strong possibility then.

Posted by: troublepink 26th May 2020, 08:13 AM

I did consider runaway but wasn't sure how popular it was on here 🤔

Posted by: T Boy 26th May 2020, 09:29 AM

My only quibble with Runaway is that I’m not sure it’s a ballad but if it’s had the ok.....

Does anyone else have any strong feelings towards another track before we make a decision?

Posted by: WinterFreeze 26th May 2020, 11:12 AM

Long Way To Happy or Run get my vote.

Is ‘Is This Thing On’ considered a ballad?

Posted by: Liam.k. 26th May 2020, 06:31 PM

'Runaway' was a fantastic discovery! wub.gif I must check out P!nk's earlier albums!

Posted by: T Boy 26th May 2020, 06:41 PM

Can everyone viewing this thread that hasn’t listened to I’m Not Dead yet, please immediately do so?

Posted by: T Boy 28th May 2020, 06:18 PM

Phew, I thought we could have gone in that round!

So-a song that ended an era. Our choices are:

1) You Make Me Sick-no
2) Family Portrait-contender
3) Last To Know-don’t think Buzzjack will go for it
4) Leave Me Alone (I’m Lonely)-contender but not sure if it’s well liked
5) I Don’t Believe You-contender but could be unknown
6) f***in Perfect-contender

After that I’m not sure what the closing singles for her eras were laugh.gif

I’m thinking Family Portrait could be our best bet!

Posted by: Scene 28th May 2020, 06:27 PM

Family Portrait is one of her absolute best so if it has a chance to shine I say push it! Plus lyrically it will stand out in the playlist among the other songs. heart.gif I do love IDBY and Last to Know as well though.

Posted by: troublepink 28th May 2020, 06:28 PM

Glitter in the air ended Funhouse...?

TTAL = Are we all we are
Beautiful trauma = Secrets
H2BH (think we can safely say she's done with that album!) = love me anyway

I think our best bet may be Perfect unsure.gif

Posted by: troublepink 28th May 2020, 06:29 PM

Oh, just seen the radio only rule. I have no idea what is classed as radio only. I do have a physical copy of GITA if that helps unsure.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: T Boy 28th May 2020, 06:34 PM

QUOTE(troublepink @ May 28 2020, 07:29 PM) *
Oh, just seen the radio only rule. I have no idea what is classed as radio only. I do have a physical copy of GITA if that helps unsure.gif laugh.gif


The radio thing is confusing me too! I was thinking of Glitter In The Air for another round but if it was a proper single then it won’t qualify for that!

Family Portrait and Perfect are the most well known I’d say. I also think they’re fairly highly regarded on here. It’s hard to tell which one would be for best but I think my choice would be FP.

Let’s see what other people think, but maybe we could do a poll?

Posted by: troublepink 28th May 2020, 06:36 PM

You read my mind, perhaps we should set up a quick poll between those two biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jordan Lee 28th May 2020, 06:49 PM

Family Portrait would really stand out!

I think it would perhaps really work if you send that.

Posted by: Spiceboy 29th May 2020, 12:59 PM

Family portrait is a great one, damn from what I'm seeing this is going to be a TOUGH round!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th May 2020, 02:19 PM

It's going to be very hard from here on in.

Posted by: T Boy 31st May 2020, 05:33 PM

So, finally a free choice round!

It’s a double round elimination to get to the final 10 but I’m also very aware Pink could fall here (she did last year)

I think we need one of the big guns: Who Knew, So What and Just Like A Pill.

I’m thinking Who Knew.

Posted by: Dexton 31st May 2020, 05:37 PM

Who Knew is sublime wub.gif My all-time favourite Pink song and definitely a fantastic choice! I don't see Pink getting too much further either unfortunately so at least here she can have a massive round before she goes!

Posted by: Scene 31st May 2020, 05:41 PM

Has U + Ur Hand been used already? kink.gif

I feel like WK and JLAP are end game contenders so I think taking a slight risk with So What in order to get further. It seems a bit defeatist having the attitude "oh she won't last long anyway let's just use her best now". laugh.gif kink.gif

Posted by: Jonjo 31st May 2020, 05:42 PM

I love all 3 of those and at this point I really can't call which one would do better! drama.gif

I think they'd all do similarly and be safe!

Posted by: T Boy 31st May 2020, 05:45 PM

It’s not a ‘go out with a High’ attitude because I hope she gets through!

But I do have fore knowledge of what rounds are coming so I know we can afford to use a big hit now.

Posted by: Scene 31st May 2020, 05:55 PM

^ fair enough kink.gif I still think it would be wise to hold onto WK and JLAP for as long as possible. tongue.gif

#senduandurhand

Posted by: troublepink 31st May 2020, 06:21 PM

I agree with who knew. And if we do get further than we expect then we still have a few big songs we could send, especially just like a pill and so what

I'm happy for who knew to be sent next 😊

Posted by: T Boy 31st May 2020, 06:46 PM

We can definitely leave Just Like A Pill until last! I feel Who Knew stands the best chance of getting us to the next round and even if we don’t make it, it simply cannot be blamed on the song choice.

Posted by: #VoteGarden.keh 31st May 2020, 07:00 PM

I thought Please Dont Leave Me would be a pretty good option for P!NK am I wrong?

Posted by: troublepink 31st May 2020, 07:14 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ May 31 2020, 07:46 PM) *
We can definitely leave Just Like A Pill until last! I feel Who Knew stands the best chance of getting us to the next round and even if we don’t make it, it simply cannot be blamed on the song choice.


If you look at other forums, a lot seem to be considering big songs for this round, and it's a double elimination, so I think our best chance is definitely who knew

Posted by: JosephStyles 31st May 2020, 07:44 PM

I adore Who Knew, would absolutely get a vote from me wub.gif

Posted by: Bjork 31st May 2020, 08:12 PM

Who Knew totally!!!

Posted by: Dexton 2nd June 2020, 11:38 AM

Who Knew was 1st in my votes! wub.gif Meaning this is the 4th round in total where she has been my #1 and 4th consecutive in my Top 2 *.*

9/9 P!nk [6-7-1-8-6-1-2-1-1]

Even my own AF didn't get this much love from me oops

Posted by: T Boy 3rd June 2020, 09:44 AM

I’m so glad we sent Who Knew, it’s getting a pretty good reception and deservedly so! I think it may be my ultimate Pink favourite but I think now was the right time to send it.

Posted by: Spiceboy 3rd June 2020, 10:15 AM

QUOTE(Dexton @ Jun 2 2020, 12:38 PM) *
Who Knew was 1st in my votes! wub.gif Meaning this is the 4th round in total where she has been my #1 and 4th consecutive in my Top 2 *.*

9/9 P!nk [6-7-1-8-6-1-2-1-1]

Even my own AF didn't get this much love from me oops



Tbf P!nk has been the revelation for me in this competition. I've always been a casual fan liking some singles and having Misunderstood album, but I can tell I'm going to need to listen to all her albums wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

Posted by: JayYou'llBeThere 3rd June 2020, 12:59 PM

Who Knew is one of my favourite songs and very special to me, so I’m very pleased it’s had its moment to shine in this contest. wub.gif

Posted by: Jonjo 3rd June 2020, 01:29 PM

I was so down that you may not have sent 'Who Knew' because of this comment..

QUOTE(T Boy @ May 15 2020, 08:11 PM) *
Who Knew and Try are good shouts. I think perhaps we could afford to go with a pretty popular track this time round and I don’t think either of them fit the criteria for later rounds.
I am so, so, SO happy you changed your mind and managed to fit WK in somewhere! heart.gif (It came 4th for me, but was a lock in pretty much!)

A stunner!

Posted by: T Boy 3rd June 2020, 01:52 PM

We always knew we’d go with Who Knew at some point, it’s just the themes have been quite limiting! Pink has so many great songs that people know but we can’t use them all. I hope she makes it in to the final 10, she deserves it so much.

Posted by: troublepink 3rd June 2020, 05:32 PM

A bside, bonus track or remix...

Heartbreaker springs to mind?!?!

Posted by: T Boy 3rd June 2020, 05:51 PM

That’s a definite contender. Tbh I can’t think of much that people would know. TTAL had quite a few like

Is This Thing On?
Run
Timebomb
The King Is Dead But The Queen Is Alive

Also there’s always Fingers laugh.gif

I don’t mind submitting to your judgement on this one. What does everyone think?

Posted by: Jack 3rd June 2020, 06:09 PM

Fingers or Heartbreaker would be good!

Posted by: troublepink 3rd June 2020, 06:36 PM

It's a hard round because so many may be unknown songs to people, but if they listen to the play lists then we could do well sending Heartbreaker. It's always been known as one of her best besides

Posted by: Jack 3rd June 2020, 07:20 PM

If you wanted to go for a remix, the Kat Krazy remix of Beautiful Trauma is good and a bop!

Posted by: Cameron 3rd June 2020, 07:48 PM

Timebomb is my fav from that list!

Posted by: pippa 3rd June 2020, 07:55 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Jun 3 2020, 08:20 PM) *
If you wanted to go for a remix, the Kat Krazy remix of Beautiful Trauma is good and a bop!

I would support this or timebomb.

Posted by: Scene 3rd June 2020, 09:13 PM

So this is the first eligible track that came to my mind - it was actually one of my favourites from the album on release. kink.gif



What is everyone's views on it?

Posted by: Jonjo 3rd June 2020, 09:15 PM

Is This Thing On? and Run are my top 2 picks! I love both (can only vote 5 so I can't guarantee points, but they'd def be in contention!)

Posted by: Jonjo 3rd June 2020, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Jun 3 2020, 06:15 PM) *
THIS ROUND IS A DOUBLE ELIMINATION
AN UPDATE.

Due to the inconsistencies with this round and a grey area or two, this is now just a SINGLE elimination.

(Idk if this will help in deciding whether to go for the slightly riskier choice or not!)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 3rd June 2020, 09:35 PM

I think run would be a good choice.

Posted by: Dexton 4th June 2020, 02:44 AM

Kat Krazy Remix of Beautiful Trauma is a nice option to have, I think I’d prefer it to any of the bonus tracks suggested, but having said that I haven’t heard a lot of them in quite a while. Another option of a remix could be the Cash Cash remix of What About Us?

Posted by: T Boy 4th June 2020, 12:06 PM

Would people be happy if we sent that remix of Beautiful Trauma then? My concern in this round is people not bothering to listen to the playlist and other artists having singles they can use. At least people know BT?

Posted by: Jack 4th June 2020, 12:45 PM

I think as it's getting tight, it'd be your best bet and have an advantage over others as people know the original song already at least.

Posted by: T Boy 4th June 2020, 12:55 PM

Ok so unless there’s any major objections in the next hour or so, I’ll send that.

Posted by: T Boy 4th June 2020, 07:30 PM

Please try and vote for Pink guys. She’s only got my vote so far.

I feel like this is the end sad.gif

Posted by: pippa 4th June 2020, 07:55 PM

There are many great songs on offer in the round and I hope Pink will make my final 5.
I am listening to a few songs before submitting my votes.

Posted by: Bjork 4th June 2020, 08:07 PM

^same

but sending Beautiful Drama was a good call, no one was even gonna bother listening if you had sent a random deluxe track even if good

Posted by: pippa 4th June 2020, 08:07 PM

I was undecided between Madonna, Pink and Katy Perry, unfortunately Katy Perry lost out.

Posted by: pippa 6th June 2020, 06:14 PM

Pink is the latest evictee cry.gif

Posted by: T Boy 6th June 2020, 06:32 PM

Yeah, I’ve put my thoughts into that thread. At least it was a round with a crap theme so we can blame that.

Posted by: troublepink 6th June 2020, 07:51 PM

We were always going to struggle in that round. I reckon we should've sent in Hooker and gone out with that 🤭

Posted by: pippa 6th June 2020, 07:59 PM

Pink progressed from her previous result which is positive.

Posted by: T Boy 6th June 2020, 08:17 PM

QUOTE(troublepink @ Jun 6 2020, 08:51 PM) *
We were always going to struggle in that round. I reckon we should've sent in Hooker and gone out with that 🤭


You’re probably right laugh.gif

I do think we’d have had a chance if they’d kept it a level playing field and not changed the rules to include singles.

Posted by: YouDriveMeJayzy 6th June 2020, 08:23 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jun 6 2020, 09:17 PM) *
You’re probably right laugh.gif

I do think we’d have had a chance if they’d kept it a level playing field and not changed the rules to include singles.

The original theme included singles, i.e. bonus tracks that became singles, singles that were eventually bonus tracks, or non-hit remix versions of singles! The only element that was originally not included was 'remixes that are the hit single version', and personally I didn't understand that being a distinction when other kinds of singles were allowed. So letting that kind of single into it was actually to make it more of a level playing field than it was.

The option was there to omit singles altogether. Essentially it was an "all or nothing" choice, and Inner Circle decided unanimously to go with "include all the different kinds of singles". So the theme essentially became... don't send a "normal" single or album track.

Posted by: Dexton 7th June 2020, 12:41 AM

I don’t think Pink had any better options tbh, which is a big shame but at the very least you managed to send (and slay with) Who Knew last round wub.gif

Posted by: Bjork 7th June 2020, 08:05 AM

Too bad, I agree the theme was crap and should have been more limited, either B-sides/deluxe tracks or remixes but not both, and definitely not singles
but overall the themes are very messy almost each round

Posted by: Rush 7th June 2020, 09:09 AM

QUOTE(YouDriveMeJayzy @ Jun 7 2020, 06:23 AM) *
The original theme included singles, i.e. bonus tracks that became singles, singles that were eventually bonus tracks, or non-hit remix versions of singles! The only element that was originally not included was 'remixes that are the hit single version', and personally I didn't understand that being a distinction when other kinds of singles were allowed. So letting that kind of single into it was actually to make it more of a level playing field than it was.

The option was there to omit singles altogether. Essentially it was an "all or nothing" choice, and Inner Circle decided unanimously to go with "include all the different kinds of singles". So the theme essentially became... don't send a "normal" single or album track.
Interesting!

I had caught wind of this theme through an accidental spoiler but it just said 'a remix', so I had it in mind as being remixes regardless of single status, but nothing about bonus tracks or b-sides. I was thinking, say, Melanie C's 'I Turn To You' and Kelly Rowland's 'Work' would be likely for it, but many/most artists would probably have to pick from their hits' remix EPs and see if they have any standouts or how well they can maintain the appeal of the original tracks.

Personally I did feel this theme turned out a bit messy by lumping together the distinct concepts of remixes and bonus tracks, and counting re-release singles as bonus tracks (as opposed to just deluxe-only tracks/Japanese bonus tracks/etc which is what I'd normally think of by 'bonus tracks') - I think remixes alone would've been a more interesting, if more difficult, prospect.

But that said, I feel like the whole game is a test of whose discography is well-rounded enough to pass through various challenges, as opposed to a straight-up 'send the hits' contest, and to me that's one of the most fun parts. It's a shame P!nk hit such a roadblock but she wasn't the first (see Calvin and Zara) and probably won't be the last. I think she did particularly well considering that she doesn't do many remixes (of relevance), features, promo singles etc and doesn't really have the fanbase on here to have well-known non-singles.

Posted by: troublepink 7th June 2020, 02:30 PM

I'm pleased she managed to get this far. Its a shame we didn't get the chance to send JLAP or So what in further rounds but thats ok.

Maybe after the singles rate, we'll have a B-side rate laugh.gif

Also, for the next round, collaborations, we would've probably sent Just give me a reason. The competition is so tough now, a lot of big artists with some big hits left to send. Good luck to all AFs left cheer.gif

Posted by: T Boy 7th June 2020, 04:43 PM

Yeah Just Give Me A Reason is an obvious one although it does have its haters.

Knowing this place, she might have been better off with Lady Marmalade...

Posted by: Dexton 11th June 2020, 12:39 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jun 8 2020, 12:43 AM) *
Yeah Just Give Me A Reason is an obvious one although it does have its haters.

Knowing this place, she might have been better off with Lady Marmalade...


What about Revenge kink.gif

Posted by: T Boy 11th June 2020, 12:48 PM

QUOTE(Dexton @ Jun 11 2020, 01:39 PM) *
What about Revenge kink.gif


I actually love Revenge! So underrated.

Posted by: Dexton 11th June 2020, 12:54 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Jun 11 2020, 08:48 PM) *
I actually love Revenge! So underrated.


As do I! I love Here Comes The Weekend also, in fact all of her collabs with Eminem are great!

Revenge > Won't Back Down > Need Me > Here Comes The Weekend

Posted by: T Boy 11th June 2020, 12:58 PM

There was just something about Revenge with me, it felt very old skool and we need more of that.

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