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 Jun 25 2019, 06:14 PM
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I’d say it was surprising it started at #5, given it followed on from Say You’ll Be There reaching #2. Also makes me wonder what boosted it to #2 in the second week.
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Jun 25 2019, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(Babyboy @ Jun 25 2019, 03:25 PM)  I should have somewhere the correct top 30 for spice and spiceworld. Thanks. I got all of my info from Billboard Books and Music & Media which were useful 
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Jun 25 2019, 06:37 PM
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The funny thing about 'Spice' is, although it sold a lot of copies straight away and was #1 in the UK the week of its release, in most places it was a slow burner, gradual climber and then seemed to stick around for a good 18 months solid.
For example, it came out in Nov 96 and was in the charts in so many European countries for weeks before it made it into the Top 10 or even #1. Sweden being an example where it wasn't until July 1997 that it reached the top spot. This post has been edited by Spice Girls Net: Jun 25 2019, 06:39 PM |
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Jun 25 2019, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Jun 25 2019, 06:31 PM) Why? Girl group albums traditionally aren't big sellers and Wannabe was very gimmicky. At that point they might as well have been one hit wonders... They had two huge singles. Say youll be there opened with huge huge sales , I would have thought the album would have debuted higher. That is why !!! |
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Jul 11 2019, 05:54 PM
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Does anyone know what's up with the ARIA Certification for Wannabe on Wikipedia? It says 54x Plat with sales of 3.78 million
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Jul 12 2019, 09:33 PM
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the greatest hits is at number 2 in the vinyl chart and at number 78 in the overall album chart in Italy!
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Jul 12 2019, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(gabry @ Jul 12 2019, 10:33 PM) the greatest hits is at number 2 in the vinyl chart and at number 78 in the overall album chart in Italy! Hey thanks for the info. Where did you see it?
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Jul 12 2019, 10:50 PM
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Jul 12 2019, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(gabry @ Jul 12 2019, 11:50 PM) Thank you very much. Would be great if their label updates their album/singles in other countries 😊 |
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Jul 28 2019, 08:47 PM
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Added Emma Welsh charts!
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Aug 17 2019, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(Babyboy @ Jul 28 2019, 09:47 PM) Added Emma Welsh charts! I find looking at the Welsh and Scottish charts fascinating. Obviously U.K. chart is a mixture of all 4 countries but seeing songs / albums chart higher or lower (and in some charts very significantly - All I need to know / My happy place) is interesting makes me wonder what the English charts were. |
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Aug 17 2019, 09:23 AM
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The Scottish/Welsh charts in 2007 still only used physical sales data, which is why All I Need to Know managed #24 in Scotland and #27 in Wales! It reached #25 in the physical chart (based on England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland sales).
Fairly certain that Scottish/Welsh charts in 2019 don't take into account streaming for some reason, so that also explains the #7 peak for My Happy Place in both countries. In the UK sales chart it was #6! |
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Aug 18 2019, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Aug 17 2019, 10:23 AM) The Scottish/Welsh charts in 2007 still only used physical sales data, which is why All I Need to Know managed #24 in Scotland and #27 in Wales! It reached #25 in the physical chart (based on England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland sales). Fairly certain that Scottish/Welsh charts in 2019 don't take into account streaming for some reason, so that also explains the #7 peak for My Happy Place in both countries. In the UK sales chart it was #6! Downloads / Streaming really killed off the Spice Girls didn’t it 
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Aug 18 2019, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Aug 18 2019, 10:38 AM) Downloads / Streaming really killed off the Spice Girls didn’t it Kinda yeah, but tbh it's their own fault. Over the past 2 decades, they have done very little to keep the group in people's minds other than the occasional reunion. Their records are barely promoted, not even during highly successful tours - and even then they were poorly promoted, if at all. I think it is getting better, but if they want to catch up on streaming they need to be more active with their music, not just the tours every 10 years or so. |
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Aug 18 2019, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Mr.X @ Aug 18 2019, 11:29 AM) Kinda yeah, but tbh it's their own fault. Over the past 2 decades, they have done very little to keep the group in people's minds other than the occasional reunion. Their records are barely promoted, not even during highly successful tours - and even then they were poorly promoted, if at all. I think it is getting better, but if they want to catch up on streaming they need to be more active with their music, not just the tours every 10 years or so. To be fair I was talking more about their solo music than the group efforts. I do think it still applies some, I mean there is minimal promotion done for their solo work (Angels in chains, Baby please don't stop, For once in my life...) they need to get out there and really promote to try to get even a small hit. Then again Melanie C did a pretty big radio tour for Anymore and still got nowhere. #1 on physical sales and still not in the top 200 official chart... 
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Aug 18 2019, 11:00 AM
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Why is this still being discussed ?
You can’t get a hit single without streaming . |
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Aug 18 2019, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Aug 18 2019, 11:47 AM) To be fair I was talking more about their solo music than the group efforts. I do think it still applies some, I mean there is minimal promotion done for their solo work (Angels in chains, Baby please don't stop, For once in my life...) they need to get out there and really promote to try to get even a small hit. Then again Melanie C did a pretty big radio tour for Anymore and still got nowhere. #1 on physical sales and still not in the top 200 official chart... Emma did quite a bit of promo for Baby Please Don't Stop actually, but she did the old school promo way, with radio slots and a couple of TV shows. Very little focus on streaming, which is sad. |
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Aug 19 2019, 12:33 PM
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I just don't think their audience is a streaming one and is probably, at this point, in the 35+ bracket.
It reminds me how the recent Beverly Hills 90210 reboot did in the ratings - it had a 1.5 rating in the overall A18-49 demographic, but once you broke it down properly it scored a 0.5 rating in the A18-34 and a 1.9 rating in the A25-52 one. Basically, everyone watching Beverly Hills 90210 is now 35+. It's the same case with the Spice Girls - their main audience just doesn't do streaming in large numbers, so trying to get a hit single is pretty pointless. If they do record new music all their efforts should be put on getting album sales, not hit singles because that won't happen. This post has been edited by tommie: Aug 19 2019, 12:33 PM |
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Aug 19 2019, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Aug 19 2019, 01:33 PM) If they do record new music all their efforts should be put on getting album sales, not hit singles because that won't happen. You never know, Westlife managed a #13/Silver certified single this year! |
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Aug 19 2019, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Aug 19 2019, 07:33 PM) I just don't think their audience is a streaming one and is probably, at this point, in the 35+ bracket. It reminds me how the recent Beverly Hills 90210 reboot did in the ratings - it had a 1.5 rating in the overall A18-49 demographic, but once you broke it down properly it scored a 0.5 rating in the A18-34 and a 1.9 rating in the A25-52 one. Basically, everyone watching Beverly Hills 90210 is now 35+. It's the same case with the Spice Girls - their main audience just doesn't do streaming in large numbers, so trying to get a hit single is pretty pointless. If they do record new music all their efforts should be put on getting album sales, not hit singles because that won't happen. They do have younger audience (the streaming generation) and also the kids too but you're right most of their fans are in 30s, not digital kids. I'm 38, not comfortable with the streaming thing at all and I would buy the new album(s) both physical and digital in a heart beat when it comes to the spice girls. I think one of their problems with the streaming is that they only have 3 studio albums, that's a very small catalog. |
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