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 9th December 2023, 01:32 AM
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 Chiimu Tomodachi, Chiimu Tomodachi
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Shame, but not surprised, on US vetoing UN for a ceasefire in Gaza. Meanwhile UK has chosen 'abstain'.
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9th December 2023, 08:05 AM
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 I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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13/15 of the Security Council voting in favour. Embarassing for the USA and UK in trying to negotiate for a peace now. And despite their obvious hypocrisies when calling for peace, China and Russia get to look good here too.
It seems that the principle reason the USA and UK are stating in not voting for because the resolution does not condemn Hamas, which seems almost like a cruel joke at this point given the number of dead Palestinians is well over 17,000 with the rest of the Gaza population herded into increasingly small areas of land that won't be safe for long - there's no possibility of any repeat of October 7 at this point. |
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10th December 2023, 02:44 AM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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Well I know it's a bit late but Labour are now stepping up their rhetoric against the intolerable killings by Israel. Pleased at this change in tone and hopefully isolate the Tories on being 100% behind them.
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13th December 2023, 03:28 PM
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 I found the love, I found the love in me
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!!!???  HOW DANGEROUS?? |
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13th December 2023, 11:20 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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The "Hitler was actually not too bad/Nazis were misunderstood" line has been making a bit of a appearance recently including in the Jewish Chronicle of all places....hmmm
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19th December 2023, 08:54 AM
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 #38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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I see that the weathercock has swung RIGHT in to the wind, so predictable. Key point on the recent UN security council vote delay... the US is misunderstanding the scale of disillusionment in the Global South over US perceived hypocrisy in calling out Russian war crimes in Ukraine, but finding a multitude of reasons to justify the large scale killings of Palestinians in Gaza. |
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29th December 2023, 12:03 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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What western foreign policy is hypocritical? No way!!
The Starmer views on foreign policy really annoy me too! |
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31st December 2023, 09:45 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Nov 13 2023, 11:28 PM)  He has always been antisemitic, so I'm not surprised that he supports a terror organisation. Could he stoop any lower? I guess not. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/12/...g-antisemitism/ |
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2nd January 2024, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Voodoo @ Nov 13 2023, 11:28 PM) He has always been antisemitic, so I'm not surprised that he supports a terror organisation. Could he stoop any lower? I guess not. Reported your post for libel. He is not and has never been antisemetic. |
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2nd January 2024, 04:48 PM
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 The owls are not what they seem
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That poster is now banned btw, no need to bring it back up x
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3rd January 2024, 05:55 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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Thank god for that!
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3rd January 2024, 06:26 PM
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Oh right
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12th January 2024, 04:11 PM
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So we're getting involved in another war by bombing Yemeni Houthis in the Gulf and aligning ourselves with Genocidal Israel. Hmmm, can't see this going well at all.... And funny how we can find money for war but not for NHS, helping business, councils etc etc
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12th January 2024, 04:23 PM
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WINTER IS COMING
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QUOTE(Smint @ Jan 12 2024, 04:11 PM) So we're getting involved in another war by bombing Yemeni Houthis in the Gulf and aligning ourselves with Genocidal Israel. Hmmm, can't see this going well at all.... And funny how we can find money for war but not for NHS, helping business, councils etc etc Don't know what else could be done? Admittedly I'm not an expert, but you've got terrorists affecting civilians and impacting international trade. I don't think either sides want this to escalate further and yes, I do think this is what the likes of Russia/Iran want but there's a fine line between appeasement and taking action. |
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12th January 2024, 04:35 PM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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Because every time the West gets involved in Middle East affairs it all goes catastrophic - Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. With the current tensions in the region, it is a very reckless action to take.
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13th January 2024, 11:09 AM
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Shakin Stevens
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jan 12 2024, 04:23 PM) Don't know what else could be done? Admittedly I'm not an expert, but you've got terrorists affecting civilians and impacting international trade. I don't think either sides want this to escalate further and yes, I do think this is what the likes of Russia/Iran want but there's a fine line between appeasement and taking action. Hard to know who your talking about here - Isreal or the Houthis? As Smint said always £££ for bombings and restrictions for public services. The hypocrisy! Also embarrassing that the Brits always fall behind America with these things and contribute like 4 planes 🤣 |
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13th January 2024, 11:17 AM
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I'm a paragon so don't perceive me
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Stopping indiscriminate piratical attacks on international trade (afaik very few if any of the ships the Houthis have attacked were related to Israel) is one very valid use of the military.
the one bugbear I have is the circumventing of Parliament/Congress to approve the actions in the UK and USA but the action itself is fine and the Houthis aren't a very well-liked group in the region anyway, only Iran funds them and that's only to get Saudi Arabia's nose bloody. It's unlikely it goes to any wider conflict. |
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13th January 2024, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(Iz 🧊 @ Jan 13 2024, 11:17 AM) Stopping indiscriminate piratical attacks on international trade (afaik very few if any of the ships the Houthis have attacked were related to Israel) is one very valid use of the military. the one bugbear I have is the circumventing of Parliament/Congress to approve the actions in the UK and USA but the action itself is fine and the Houthis aren't a very well-liked group in the region anyway, only Iran funds them and that's only to get Saudi Arabia's nose bloody. It's unlikely it goes to any wider conflict. 100% this |
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19th January 2024, 12:09 AM
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BuzzJack Gold Member
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So Netanyahu himself has now said "In the future, the state of Israel has to control the entire area from the river to the sea." Which of course means that he wants to abolish Palestine and the one state solution. That would be via genocide and breaking every International law going. Clear as crystal.
Yet both of our two main political leaders will give mealy mouth deflections and "Oh I'm not an international expert" hand shrugging if asked about it and are not going to withdraw support to Israel. And we'll be bombarded with endless propaganda about the (undeniably awfully treated) Israeli hostages but the 25000 and rapidly rising number of Palestinian deaths, not to mention famine coming their way will not be spoken about. |
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26th January 2024, 01:41 AM
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I found the love, I found the love in me
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This video is currently living in my head rent free right now... 
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