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Posted by: mdh 14th May 2017, 03:45 PM

JosepVinaixa reports that the first single in their first era as a quartet will be out on June 2nd - it's called Down.

Excited!

Posted by: Cody S. Berry 14th May 2017, 04:05 PM

I was hoping for DWTS promo but I guess not with that ***tentative*** release date

Posted by: cqmerqn 14th May 2017, 04:20 PM

Boooring

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 14th May 2017, 05:32 PM

I'm intrigued to see how they do as a quartet.

Posted by: all is vanity. 14th May 2017, 11:18 PM

Excited for it!

Posted by: Liаm 23rd May 2017, 01:49 PM

Coming 2nd June - excited to hear what they come up with!

Posted by: George.keh 27th May 2017, 08:44 AM

This could be a number 1 if it's exceptional. Really hope that it's a very summery tune like Work From Home (which really deserved to be a number 1)

Posted by: SeanGrey 28th May 2017, 02:24 PM

Apparently it is called Down.

Posted by: Klaus 28th May 2017, 08:09 PM

Will be interesting to see how this does without Camilla. I guess they've been down before but they got up before so I think they'll be good to go.

Posted by: Ryan. 28th May 2017, 08:11 PM

I think the first single will do very well, but they will only last past this next album if the songs are very high quality.

Posted by: SeanGrey 29th May 2017, 07:43 AM

I see what you did there! 😏


I'm still waiting for these Max Martin penned tracks to surface that they spoke about in the lead up to 7/27!

Posted by: Quavo (ft Quavo) 29th May 2017, 09:15 AM

Do we think this could debut top 10?

Posted by: cqmerqn 29th May 2017, 01:40 PM

Considering Work From Home couldn't debut top 20, then I'd say no. Especially not that they haven't got Camila.

Posted by: Rob 29th May 2017, 02:37 PM

I've seen this reported in a few places but has it been confirmed anywhere?

Posted by: Martyn 29th May 2017, 04:49 PM

"One Down, who is next?"

Three of them will look at the next one they want to push out the band.

*Clutching at made up straws*

Posted by: Jonjo 29th May 2017, 05:06 PM

Different situation. I should imagine a top 20 debut could be quite likely if it's a killer track like 'Work From Home'. That track kinda elevated them up slightly, so they should be able to get instant support.

It's like how a sequel to a movie always performs and does better at the Box Office than the first movie etc...

I'm really intrigued to see what they come up with.

Posted by: Ryan. 29th May 2017, 05:33 PM

Not on the same scale of course but it is like Taylor Swift reaching a new level of fame with WANEGBT and then Shake It Off instantly performing when leading the following album.

Posted by: SeanGrey 29th May 2017, 07:40 PM

Confirmed on Instagram that it is called Down and is coming Friday!!!!

Posted by: Liаm 29th May 2017, 09:32 PM

Yeah I feel like they'll hit a higher level with this album! The quality of 7/27 compared to Reflection was quite apparent, still not perfect but with the buzz around Camila leaving and the fact they had a huge hit and a couple of other solid hits means they've got a better foundation to go off now if nothing else.

Posted by: SeanGrey 29th May 2017, 09:35 PM

Normani will have given the group great exposure from DWTS in the US too, so hopefully the public get behind them a bit more!

Posted by: SeanGrey 30th May 2017, 03:05 PM

Posted by: SeanGrey 30th May 2017, 03:07 PM

Can a mod resize please?

Great artwork

Posted by: Klaus 30th May 2017, 03:27 PM

lol at it featuring another rapper

Posted by: SeanGrey 30th May 2017, 04:50 PM

I don't get get why there's so much negativity about them featuring artists?

Posted by: jjake 31st May 2017, 10:05 AM

fyi 'work from home' was my song of the year 2016 and the 2 following singles were superb too so high hopes 🔥

Posted by: Davidson 31st May 2017, 11:39 AM

I am really willing this to be superb.

Posted by: SeanGrey 1st June 2017, 08:35 PM

I don't remember the last time I was this excited about a girl band song debuting, I've got such high expectations after 7/27 spawning some absolute bangers and Cabello having gone solo!

Edit: just found this on Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7816540/fifth-harmony-single-down-gucci-mane

Posted by: Joe. 1st June 2017, 08:46 PM

I really want this to be good. Everything crossed.

Posted by: Ryan. 2nd June 2017, 03:03 AM

Early ATRL reports after 3 minutes on release is tropical Work From Home which bops

Posted by: Ryan. 2nd June 2017, 03:23 AM

Well a slightly more tropical Work From Home is the perfect description, it is very similar which is expected considering its the same writers/producers. The "down, down, down" is identical to the "work, work, work" though!

Basically I love Work From Home so I really like this - it must be impossible to like one and not the other -, I do miss Camila's vocal as it was just so unique but it should be a very decent sized hit nevertheless. As they are at a higher level now than they were pre-Work From Home I imagine this could actually be bigger, or at least topping charts much quicker than WFH did.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 2nd June 2017, 04:12 AM

On first listen I am underwhelmed. It's more low-key than I was expecting

Posted by: SeanGrey 2nd June 2017, 05:09 AM

Yes very similar to WFH but loving this on first three or so listens!

Posted by: .MIKE. 2nd June 2017, 05:41 AM

I like it! I prefer it to crying in the club..

Posted by: all is vanity. 2nd June 2017, 06:49 AM

That's how I feel after first listen, but I'll see after a few more listens.

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 2nd June 2017, 07:31 AM

It sounds HUGE.

Posted by: ~josh~ 2nd June 2017, 07:44 AM

Omg what a banger!!! Love the tropical vibes for the summer and the beat during the rap is banging too. This sounds so on trend so hopefully it'll be a huge hit for them too. YEEEES at them delivering whilst poor Camila is releasing tired and dull Christina Aguilera samples as her debut solo single :')

Posted by: Joe. 2nd June 2017, 07:48 AM

The exact same as Work From Home which means it's a bop. Much better than Crying in the Club oops.

Posted by: UltraGreenLight 2nd June 2017, 07:55 AM

This is fab *.*

Posted by: Klaus 2nd June 2017, 09:01 AM

lol they really have got their formula: have just one line repeated over and over for the chorus and add a random rapper!

Posted by: burbe 2nd June 2017, 09:04 AM

Yeah it's banger but it's just WFH reformulated without Chipmunk screeching all over it

Posted by: Davidson 2nd June 2017, 09:08 AM

I feel like this is such a lacklustre attempt to replicate 'Work For Home'. Comes across like they've run out ideas and it is so derivative.

Hopefully this doesn't undo all the good work they achieved last era but I wouldn't be surprised if it did so.

Posted by: Cameron 2nd June 2017, 09:12 AM

See, my problem is Camila had the distinct voice, whereas here the girls voices are all blending into one. They also love a song where they don't harmonise at all despite their name being 5th HARMONY... I feel it's more of a monotone version of Work From Home

Posted by: Jonjo 2nd June 2017, 09:17 AM

Yeah, really liking this too! Not sure if it packs enough punch for me to LOVE it like I did with WFH, but it does the job and it does it well. I understand the main criticisms for it (the girls all sound the same/just a less in your face WFH etc..)

But for now, I'll take it! *.*

Posted by: blacksquare 2nd June 2017, 09:47 AM

Work from Home was fab but this is so limp and dull.

Posted by: MrLoverboy 2nd June 2017, 11:33 AM

This is awful. Just needed more work on the chorus but the way the chorus is repeated is not fun at all.

Posted by: Connor. 2nd June 2017, 12:19 PM

It's ok but it's kind of just there. Not even a massive fan of Camila but her voice did add to their songs.

Posted by: Liаm 2nd June 2017, 12:43 PM

I wanted an undeniable banger, this is god but it's definitely just a lesser version of Work From Home, I can't really say anything about it that hasn't been said in the thread I think it will grow but from this song, it feels like they probably do need Camila.

Posted by: Atonement 2nd June 2017, 01:22 PM

I can only echo what others have said. It's fine as a song but it's basically WFH. I can't believe someone in control thought this was a good idea?

Posted by: jjake 2nd June 2017, 01:24 PM

utterly non-descript and subpar, 'work from home' was one of my songs of the year 2016 but this is just tragic and won't be a hit as it's so non-descript and lacklustre; everythihg you don't want to be in your first post-cabello single...

Posted by: Juliano 2nd June 2017, 01:38 PM

I like it, but slightly underwhelmed.

Posted by: mdh (ft. Quavo) 2nd June 2017, 01:40 PM

They don't even have New Music Friday support in the UK... surely this is going to bomb with next to no streams first day Strange decision from the label!

Posted by: danG 2nd June 2017, 01:54 PM

It's on the playlist... song #17.

Posted by: Joe. 2nd June 2017, 01:57 PM

It's been on there all day? (Well from 6 hours ago)

Posted by: lotita 2nd June 2017, 03:11 PM

well this is pretty awful

did they accidentally release a demo

Posted by: mdh (ft. Quavo) 2nd June 2017, 03:28 PM

Oh, my Spotify must be playing up because it's not there still for me. Well, song #17 isn't exactly going to propel them into the top 50 like they could have done if they were top 3.

Posted by: sticky icky trav 2nd June 2017, 03:43 PM

it's a pretty basic song but i don't think it's bad at all

Posted by: HausofSZA 2nd June 2017, 03:49 PM

It's certainly lacking a lot of PUNCH that they usually get so right. I'm not sure, it might grow but atm it's just there..

Posted by: 360Jupiter 2nd June 2017, 05:52 PM

Agree that their voices do all blend into one here too. Is it deliberate? Trying to be one whole, united, now Camila's gone? Who knows.

Also for an under 3 minute song there's a lot of Gucci Mane on here

Posted by: Jonjo 2nd June 2017, 06:51 PM

May I remind you of one of the biggest acts around atm, The Chainsmokers? Unfortunately "non-descript and lackluster" means nothing nowadays </3

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I thought this would grow the more I listened to it, but it hasn't. Not that it's getting worse, but it is feeling more underwhelming tbh. It's a bop, but I'm really disappointed at everything about it still.

Posted by: Dane 2nd June 2017, 08:28 PM

Must say I keep revisiting this throughout the day & it definitely sounds a lot better now than when I first heard.

Posted by: Sigrid(ft.Quavo) 2nd June 2017, 09:48 PM

Camila's single is much better than this heap of crap.

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 2nd June 2017, 09:48 PM

I LOVE IT!

It's a banger without trying too hard.

Posted by: Sigrid(ft.Quavo) 2nd June 2017, 09:49 PM

This made me lol literally https://twitter.com/ccabeywo/status/870732674717147136

Posted by: JosephStyles🐶 2nd June 2017, 09:51 PM

I honestly think this lacks Camila. As has been said before, the other four don't sound distinctive enough and it could easily be a solo artist really. Camila was my favourite vocally and I stand by that as her two solo songs have knocked this out of the park. Gucci Mane's rap doesn't fit in as well as Ty Dolla $ign, Kid Ink or even Fetty Wap on their respective 5H singles, and ultimately it just feels pretty lame I'm praying it grows because I love most of their singles but this hasn't lived up to my high expectations.

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 2nd June 2017, 09:59 PM

Has everyone seen the GMA performance?

It's a BANGER! Give it time

Posted by: *Tim 2nd June 2017, 10:17 PM

The performance did sell the song more for me

Posted by: Jonjo 2nd June 2017, 10:34 PM

The GMA performance of it is the best performance they've ever given as a group. For the first time, they actually looked and performed like a group. They were all in sync with one another and it looked polished and slick (barring the parts after Gucci Mane). Very impressed!



Normani absolutely SMASHED it, in particular *.*

Posted by: HausofSZA 2nd June 2017, 10:38 PM

My first thought when I heard the song was "i need the music video so i can add context to the song" - really the Work From Home video is what gave it so much more life for me. I am not disregarding this completely by any means.

Posted by: mdh (ft. Quavo) 2nd June 2017, 10:40 PM

This is a total bop. Not as good as Crying In The Club or even I Have Questions but STILL

Posted by: Catherine91 4th June 2017, 10:37 AM

The only part I like is "when push comes to shove..." and this is also the only part where I can tell who is singing (before I saw the performance). It does feel like it could do with some Camila!

Posted by: ~josh~ 4th June 2017, 02:23 PM

https://twitter.com/theshadyfacts/status/871366223090638849

I cackled !!1

Posted by: Liаm 4th June 2017, 06:11 PM

LMAOOOO FFS

I also love the one where it's like "wear white if you have a Grammy" and it's got Destiny's Child and TLC in white and that pic of them in red :')

Posted by: DiamondHeart 4th June 2017, 08:56 PM

This really is a dud compared to Work From Home, don't think they'll ever top that. It just felt so right and current and mostly still does.

Posted by: cqmerqn 4th June 2017, 09:36 PM

Down to 30 on iTunes, eek!

Posted by: ♀Lee_J11♀ 5th June 2017, 01:16 PM

Down to 37 now. Unfortunate timing with Ariana concert week but my god, what a flop!

Posted by: danG 5th June 2017, 01:31 PM

seems increasingly likely they will miss the top 40 on week one, possibly entering even lower than Camila did. didn't expect them to underperform so badly.

Posted by: Neil 5th June 2017, 01:33 PM

I'm liking this... but not loving it. Never thought I'd prefer the Camila song over this!

Posted by: pippa 5th June 2017, 02:36 PM

I cant see with song from the group or Camilla becoming big hits. That said, Fifth Harmony have never really impressed me and as a band i have always felt they would never last.

Posted by: ReyOfSpunShine 5th June 2017, 11:12 PM

Bit more rnb sounding than I'd like and sounds like a weaker Work From Home in the chorus.

Posted by: Cremey 6th June 2017, 09:33 PM

It's like Destiny's Child releasing a single without Beyoncé.

I'm sure they'll have better to come but this is just so...there. I'm far more interested in Camila's output 💃🏼

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 6th June 2017, 10:41 PM

This is literally a basic 'Work From Home' devoid of any of its charm.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 7th June 2017, 12:39 AM

Savage

Were they ever legit big in the UK though? Work From Home was big yeah, but that was only their lead single - they had two more that did not much last year.

Posted by: Liаm 7th June 2017, 01:48 AM

To be fair All In My Head and That's My Girl went silver, they hung around quite well for their peaks. Idk if it's the lack of Camila, I think this is just not a great song It is indeed just a lesser Work From Home, the sort of thing that could've been on the last album but not be even remotely considered for release. If they had a proper pop banger like That's My Girl or Sledgehammer for example, I'm sure it would have started off better.

Posted by: pippa 7th June 2017, 01:30 PM

They are a girlband i cant see many people remembering in 10 years time.

Posted by: KatMus 7th June 2017, 02:23 PM

This song without meaning

Posted by: SeanGrey 7th June 2017, 05:19 PM

I think this thread is being way too critical. Like Liam said they had two silver singles last era and Boss went top 20 and Worth It was also a pretty decent sized hit.

Posted by: 360Jupiter 7th June 2017, 10:19 PM

I guess I was just going for more... they're not high-profile enough that them releasing one dud song is a huge deal.

If say Little Mix or Rihanna came out with a really underwhelming lead single that would be alarm bells because of how strong their usual output is.

A group like Fifth Harmony... it doesn't feel like they're big enough yet, in the UK anyway, for enough people to've had super high expectations for their new song.

Posted by: SeanGrey 8th June 2017, 05:23 AM

Oh no they'll never be huge over here with no real platform to have been launched on like Girls Aloud or Little Mix.

Video coming today according to Twitter!

Posted by: Martyn 8th June 2017, 10:44 AM

I listened to a preview of this on iTunes today. Can't say I am fussed. It feels like a huge step down from where they were.

Posted by: OutstandingMixer 8th June 2017, 12:40 PM

That's a lame excuse tbh. Having no platform never stopped Destiny's Child, TLC and The Pussycat Dolls being huge here.

Posted by: Mr. C. Joel 8th June 2017, 01:19 PM

I actually really like 'Down' imo it's better than Camila's I find hers just a knock off Sia.

Posted by: Jonjo 8th June 2017, 01:31 PM

I like the video. The aesthetic of it all with all the neony stuff is so cool and a weak spot for me with videos lol. (Although nothing has topped the 'Super Bass' video in that respect)

I still feel the same about the song as I did when I first heard it. I dont hate it and I dont love it. It's a good bop though.

Posted by: Cameron 8th June 2017, 01:43 PM

Video is alright, it looks like Into You meets What Do You Mean

Posted by: SeanGrey 8th June 2017, 02:10 PM

I'm not using it as an excuse?

They're much bigger in the US than they are here. I'm just stating comparatively they won't be as big as LM or GA here.

Posted by: SeanGrey 8th June 2017, 02:36 PM

I was going to go with I'm In Love With A Monster ft. Body Talk!

Posted by: OutstandingMixer 8th June 2017, 03:43 PM

Yes, you are. You said Fourth Harmony would never be huge here because they didn't have a "platform" like Little Mix and Girls Aloud did (which is a lame excuse to use when other US girl groups have had massive success here).

Posted by: *Tim 8th June 2017, 04:15 PM

He gave possible reasons as to why they weren't as big as others. Not the same as an excuse

Posted by: OutstandingMixer 8th June 2017, 04:20 PM

It's a lame reason then

Posted by: *Tim 8th June 2017, 04:43 PM

Not really. They are much bigger in the US, mainly due to them coming from the X-Factor which got them a core fanbase already. For that same reason Little Mix are HUGE in the UK and got the chances they got. There's nothing negative about that. That being said, outside of those countries Fifth Harmony will have just as hard a time as any other new act to establish a core fanbase, just like Little Mix struggled in the US for a long time and still are.

You can't compare either of these bands to either of those cause they bursted onto the scene with jam after jam and appealed to the masses and were on trend. Nowaday "real pop" is more of a thing and girlbands are usually not considered "real" but instead get tags like "manufactured" and "sex dolls".

Posted by: SeanGrey 8th June 2017, 06:55 PM

Exactly why other girl bands have also struggled from the UK itself such as Neon Jungle and MO in recent years.

Posted by: OutstandingMixer 8th June 2017, 07:40 PM

Yes, Little Mix being launched on the UK X Factor has helped them in the UK, and yes, Fourth Harmony being launched on the US X Factor has helped them in the US, but there are plenty of other reasons why neither have been that successful on the other side of their respective ponds. In the US, radio airplay and good promo has been a big issue for Little Mix. They definitely have a core fanbase in the US though, unfortunately it hasn't really expanded beyond that. The lack of massive success for Fourth Harmony in the UK is mainly because their songs aren't very good...



I think it's got more to do with their songs being utter w*** in all honesty...

Posted by: 360Jupiter 9th June 2017, 12:05 AM

Still underwhelmed by the video. It and the song aren't terrible, but the chorus lets it down.

The video's also essentially just KDA + Tinashe's for Just Say x4 plus Gucci and gratuitous pool shots.

Posted by: Defaze 9th June 2017, 12:19 AM

I was really hoping this would grow on me, but it's just SO basic and limp. I've never been a huge fan of WFH, but I can at least appreciate its appeal. Honestly, to me, this is just a colossal misfire. I really hope it doesn't squander all their momentum.

This video's decent at least (but still a bit lacking).

Posted by: SeanGrey 9th June 2017, 10:11 AM

Just sorted out your typos

Each to their own of course. I don't think airplay is an issue for the girls over here in the UK - nor has streaming but I think the main reason (without turning this into a LM vs 5H debate which I know mixers just LOVE) LM haven't made it over in the US is because their music isn't that great and 5H are too homegrown for them to compete against. The Saturdays never made it in the states nor did GA (although they were never really pushed out there) so as long as 5H have the decent success they've had over in the states in this era I think they'll be just fine with continuing the success.

Posted by: OutstandingMixer 9th June 2017, 10:38 AM

I don't see FOURTH HARMONY lasting much longer tbh...

Posted by: Klaus 9th June 2017, 11:03 AM

I've decided that this is one of the worst songs of all time. It is incredibly lazy in terms of both the lyrics, production and everything else.

Posted by: SevenSeize 9th June 2017, 01:52 PM

Yeah this is garbage just a lazy Work from Home rehash with none of the charm? Flush this please

Posted by: Catherine91 10th June 2017, 01:47 PM

There's a mashup of Down and Work From Home on Youtube:



I like the parts using the WFH instrumental and the Down vocals!

Posted by: (Zach) 11th June 2017, 04:11 PM

While it's hard to ignore that they are desperately trying to recreate the success of Work From Home, I am rooting for them. I can't stand Camila and when I heard she left the group I immediately liked them 10x more.

Posted by: SeanGrey 12th June 2017, 07:50 PM

I'm such a bigger fan of them now as well Zach since Cabello left. I loved them before but now they're challenging GRL for my second favourite girl band!

I know chart positions aren't everything but the fact this has debuted at 42 on the Hor 100 is quite impressive, the only way is up

Posted by: cqmerqn 12th June 2017, 08:07 PM

42 is quite impressive?

Posted by: SeanGrey 12th June 2017, 08:09 PM

Compare it to where the likes of Boss and Sledgehammer went. They only had one bit of promo too and airplay hasn't kicked off yet.

Posted by: mdh 12th June 2017, 08:12 PM

Lol

The song is a total banger (even though it's a TOTAL rip-off of Work From Home which will make me detest it in due course) but it's flopping undeniably. At this point after release of Work From Home - it was already #16 on UK Spotify.

Posted by: Jonjo 12th June 2017, 09:06 PM

But they're on a completely different level now compared to where they were when those two tracks were released? Their last era set them up for a bigger era this time.

I love 'Down' and I know we need longer nowadays to determine whether something is a hit or not, but they really should've had an easy top 30 instant hit with their first single from a new era after what their last era did for them.

Posted by: Dexton 13th June 2017, 07:06 AM

Reminds me of that Cheap Thrills / Shape Of You mashup. But at least in that case it was an artist copying a completely different artist, Whereas here it's just the 4/5H girls being lazy and trying to recreate a hit.

Posted by: Jonjo 13th June 2017, 07:13 PM

Can this bullshit "Fourth Harmony" please STOP. It's irritating af to see and most importantly, it's not even remotely humorous! :rolleye: They're called FIFTH Harmony. Deal with it.

Posted by: Kye 13th June 2017, 07:20 PM

I prefer Fifth H4rmony myself x

Posted by: Jonjo 13th June 2017, 07:25 PM

Tbh I think their name makes more sense this way lmao. Each girls have a voice and then them together as a group make another voice, thus being the "5th Harmony" *upside down smiley face*

Posted by: Cameron 13th June 2017, 07:25 PM

Even charting on the Hot 100 is a big deal in the US! The way their chart is compiled is ridiculous like a song can be top 40 on iTunes and not even get to #100

Posted by: cqmerqn 13th June 2017, 08:06 PM

Well to be fair a song could be top 40 in the UK yet miss the top 100!

Posted by: Cameron 13th June 2017, 08:08 PM

Top 40 is the new Top 10 here lmaooo

Posted by: SeanGrey 14th June 2017, 05:18 AM

This is where I was coming from. In terms of charts surely the way charts work now is the eventual peak is more important, no?

Posted by: OutstandingMixer 14th June 2017, 06:52 PM

I'm calling them Fourth Harmony and that's final. Deal with it.

Posted by: *Tim 14th June 2017, 06:55 PM

The pop mods are hereby kindly asking you to call them by their name or not mention them at all. It's very tiring to see, especially since it's clear you don't like them as much. So please stop

Posted by: Cody S. Berry 14th June 2017, 07:11 PM

All I knew for possible promo was the iHeartRadio Summer Pool Party and the video release but other than that it feels a bit too silent.
It's pretty impressive given "Down" has barely had any airplay in the first ten days.

To clarify: from what I've noticed in the UK, chart positions tend to gravitate towards streaming and sales because radio doesn't seem to do much in the scope of things. The US has several more formats and a comparably insurmountable amount of radio stations per format, so airplay ends up playing a significant role on BillBoard. It explains why some songs in the US tend to stick around the charts longer than they should be because either they haven't peaked on radio yet or they're losing airplay too slowly (and also explains why most of Ed's album tracks debuted lower than the UK upon release).

To compare with Work From Home:

Airplay:
32 24 FIFTH HARMONY Work From Home 3743 1641 2102 22.610
54 39 FIFTH HARMONY Down f/Gucci Mane 1253 390 863 7.469

WFH had a successful radio deal and was still mopping up big updates after the rolling effect, while Down hadn't entered the previous Sunday (which is the cutoff for radio).

It's still early days. Us Harmonizers shouldn't be panicking until it's around mid-August and it hasn't gone anywhere.

Posted by: Cody S. Berry 14th June 2017, 07:13 PM

also can we not bring this little mix fifth harmony "beef" shit here like all we want to do is listen to music jesus christ

Posted by: danG 14th June 2017, 08:25 PM

Well yes, because airplay doesn't count towards our chart.

Although our airplay chart seems to move faster than yours, Shape Of You is as low as #9 on British airplay!!!

Posted by: cqmerqn 17th June 2017, 07:58 PM

They tried to get a safe and easy Spotify hit but it has kinda backfired :/

I don't think it's over for them just yet, they could easily have a hit with the right song. Playing it safe doesn't work out all the time!

Posted by: Mack 17th June 2017, 10:20 PM

A Top40 hit here is considered an success nowadays. Shame this didn't go Top40.

Posted by: cqmerqn 18th June 2017, 11:17 AM

In all fairness it still has time

Posted by: SeanGrey 18th June 2017, 12:07 PM

It has only been out two weeks!

Posted by: (Zach) 18th June 2017, 01:49 PM

Definitely, and it's due to the fact that are so many more stations here in the US. The UK has two major stations that basically determine the airplay charts (and happen to be pretty proactive) while we have hundreds. Makes it a lot harder for a few proactive stations to generate movement on our overall chart.

I agree that it's too early to tell how this will do. I will say that I don't think Fifth Harmony went into this release in as good of a place as some here are saying, so I wasn't surprised that Down didn't enter Top 20 or even Top 40 on either chart. They had one massive hit on each of their albums while the rest were really minor hits and probably already forgotten. Coming off the back of two minor hits, the latter peaking at #73 in the US (despite only being the third single), and losing their highest profile member was going to set them back a bit.

Posted by: burbe 4th July 2017, 09:25 PM

Underrated anthem

Posted by: Andrew. 4th July 2017, 09:26 PM

This is a bop and I don't even care *.*

Posted by: Neil 28th August 2017, 12:34 PM

How are we NOT discussing this? The shade! Love it. But also those splits! Love it.

Posted by: Cherry. 28th August 2017, 12:42 PM

am i the only one who thinks that shade at the start was just unnecessary??? like as laughable as it was.... just why?!

Posted by: burbe 28th August 2017, 05:03 PM

I love how DJ Khaled has become their biggest fan

Posted by: Liаm 28th August 2017, 05:14 PM

Nah I agree, why on earth did they get so shitty in the Sun interview over them asking about Camila and then do that last night do that? I'm starting to think that rather than Camila being a Beyonce sort of diva, I feel like they were the Mean Girls and didn't make her feel great about being in the group which only woud have exasperated her solo ambitions.

That was their best performance I've seen for sure anyway but I totally agree that it was laughable that Down won best pop video... It was the worst in that category. But the winners overall were kind of awful, I think ALessia Cara for Scars and 21p for heavydirtysoul were the only one I agreed with. Well, I can't speak on Kendrick wining everything as I'm not sure I have even seen that video lmao

Posted by: Jade 28th August 2017, 05:17 PM

'Down' winning best Pop video was a joke but I'd expect nothing less when it was a fan voted award, Fifth Harmony have many crazy rabid fans on Twitter. (should've been the excellent 'Chained To The Rhythm' vid </3)

Their performance was decent at least

Posted by: Saenerys 28th August 2017, 05:21 PM

I'm a huge 5H Stan but no way should Katy be robbed of best video - it was a work of art and so thought provoking!

Posted by: JosephStyles 28th August 2017, 05:22 PM

This is what I've thought the entire time tbh, and this just further proves it

Posted by: kye 28th August 2017, 05:32 PM

i completely disagree, i don't think it was shade. i think it was a message and it was executed in the savviest way possible.
for what ever reason (cause we don't know) Camila left the group and for the past 8 months the girls have had to talk about her in every.single.interview. they have done.
she left, she's not in the band anymore.. they want the media to stop talking about her to them. this was really their way of getting the message across that they're tired of it, as i know i would be.

as for The Sun interview.. did you read what dan wootton asked them before they got shitty? it's been 8 months since Camila quit and that's all he wanted to talk about.

he rudely implied that they'd peaked when she left, if there was a 'war of words' between them when she left, if they'd be friends again & then proceeded to ask about when Lauren got caught with marijuana on her.. i mean really?! what relevance does any of that have to their new single & album? it's inappropriate.

and i'm a Camila fan x

Posted by: Saenerys 28th August 2017, 06:10 PM

I'm enjoying Camila and her vocals/tracks now she has gone solo but there is no denying she definitely was angling to be the Nicole of the group. The performances of Boss and Flex spring to mind with her just wanting to hog the stage and add in extra notes which were completely unnecessary just to get attention, in my opinion. There are probably reasons on both sides of the fence as to why she left but as you say Lauren and her arrest has nothing to do with Fifth Harmony and their music. Yes they have a song called Dope and the group have a young fanbase in places which isn't exactly the best image, but The Sun shouldn't be hell bent on trying to tarnish their image and trying to start drama between the two or even strike up irrelevant questions to the current campaign.

Posted by: Jonjo 28th August 2017, 09:27 PM

Tbf, they've handled every interview about Camila right from the beginning really badly, imo. They've really done themselves no favours tbh. I agree at this point though, they shouldn't keep being asked about it, but they really should and could handle the situations so much more professionally, imo.

In regards to the performance, am I the only one who thought it was a mess? they have NO RHYTHM or connection as a group at all It's always been the main problem with them for me personally. I really want to stan them so much more than I do.

But hey, at least they have bops!

Posted by: WallIsSoGood 28th August 2017, 10:10 PM

The shade is amazing tho

Posted by: Andrew. 28th August 2017, 10:14 PM

The shade in the performance :') At first I thought one of them had fallen off the stage

Posted by: troylovesmusic 28th August 2017, 10:28 PM

This is exactly how I saw it as well the media and interviewers are constantly bringing up Camila and asking them questions about her and I think they saw this as a way of saying this is the The Group now it's time to move on from it I don't think it was meant as shade towards to Camila personally . I mean even at the VMA's Pre show an interviewer asked them if they won an award would they give one to the one that's not in the group anymore (Camila) even though Down had nothing to do with her at all .

Posted by: kye 28th August 2017, 10:44 PM

absolutely, i found that in such bad taste and tbh reflected badly on MTV & their researchers..
i would have loved if the girls were quick enough to be like "well if you'd done your research, you'd know that Camila's not even in the video for best choreography sooo.." and he'd have been so red faced.

Posted by: StillJupiter 28th August 2017, 10:53 PM

tbh I thought them being shady was probably deliberate. Look at how much sassiness and feuds have elevated some other stars' fame and profiles. It's only very particular kinds of people that would rather everyone was professional and got along, esp in popworld where everyone is an image and not their actual selves.

Posted by: Tomberella 4th October 2017, 07:43 PM

i'm sooooo late to this but honestly what a f***ing tune. song of the year material!