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 Sep 17 2016, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Jaÿ @ Sep 13 2016, 02:10 PM)  P.S.  @ you re: Sexy! No No No..., Joe!!Don't get me wrong. It's in my top 4 GA singles. But you can't deny that it wasn't the biggest of their hits, especially as a lead single. And I'd argue that the general public wouldn't remember it at all compared to the other 2 singles from the era. I just think that if Girl Overboard, Black Jacks or Close to Love were picked (all of which are infeiror songs to me personally but would have worked better on the radio) as a lead instead it would have been a bigger hit and could also have lead to the album selling even more. |
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Sep 17 2016, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(Joe. @ Sep 17 2016, 11:26 PM) Don't get me wrong. It's in my top 4 GA singles. But you can't deny that it wasn't the biggest of their hits, especially as a lead single. And I'd argue that the general public wouldn't remember it at all compared to the other 2 singles from the era. I just think that if Girl Overboard, Black Jacks or Close to Love were picked (all of which are infeiror songs to me personally but would have worked better on the radio) as a lead instead it would have been a bigger hit and could also have lead to the album selling even more. It's got an unusual structure/sounds like various songs in one, kind of like 'Biology', so I'm guessing that was the selling point for the record company choosing it as lead single, sort of avoiding making the same mistake twice. |
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Sep 18 2016, 10:03 AM
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If I were the record company I'd have gone:
Sound of the Underground 1. Sound of the Underground 2. No Good Advice 3. Life Got Cold/Some Kind of Miracle (Double A - these were still a thing in 2003 right? I think both would have been radio hits and I'm gutted the latter never got its chance to shine) 4. Jump What Will The Neighbours Say? 1. Love Machine (just think this would have made an amazing early summer smash and lead single) 2. The Show 3. I'll Stand By You 4. Wake Me Up 5. Graffiti My Soul (maybe a Double A with Long Hot Summer but I think this would have connected better with the public, LHS was sort of GA on autopilot, it didn't even make it onto a NOW album like all the others oops) Chemistry 1. Biology 2. Whole Lotta History (much better Xmassy ballad than See The Day, should have just been the December single really. I get that there were trying to recreate I Stand By You with the cover approach but it was not a great single choice) 3. Wild Horses (how did this not get a release?) The Sound of Girls Aloud 1. Something Kinda Ooooh 2. Crazy Fool (I'd have saved this for a token new track spot on the hits album, far too good for a b-side and completely wasted as one. I certainly wouldn't have put out another pointless cover in I Think We're Alone Now, for me their covers are all their worst songs, why bother when their originals are SO good) Children in Need single (For this I'd have created a new song, I mean Xenomania were writing for both around this time weren't they, surely they could have come up with a great original collaboration track. Walk This Way was another poor cover and the basic production didn't sound like either GA OR Sugababes really) Tangled Up 1. Girl Overboard (would have made an incredible lead) 2. Call The Shots (it came at a perfect time) 3. Black Jacks (it just has that classy sheen but right amount of personality that I feel would have fit in so well in early 2008, alongside Gabriella Cilmi and the post-Winehouse landscape) 4. Sexy! No, No, No (this would have been fantastic for May, and for the UK's Eurovision entry instead of Andy Abraham!) Out Of Control 1. The Promise (It has its haters but I was blown away by this, they got the 2008 sound spot on while keeping their own quirks and hallmarks, amazing) 2. Untouchable (would have done marginally better coming earlier, plus it sounds like a winter single to me for some reason) 3. The Loving Kind 4. Miss You Bow Wow (they'd already blown their top ten run so why not end on a high with a cheeky summer single to flog some more albums around the time of the tour) Ten 1. Something New (Don't think I'd have bothered with a second single, I don't think the public would have 'got' On The Metro either, and they clearly weren't bothered about promoting a second single whatever it was anyway.) |
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Sep 18 2016, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(Joe. @ Sep 17 2016, 11:26 PM) Don't get me wrong. It's in my top 4 GA singles. But you can't deny that it wasn't the biggest of their hits, especially as a lead single. And I'd argue that the general public wouldn't remember it at all compared to the other 2 singles from the era. I just think that if Girl Overboard, Black Jacks or Close to Love were picked (all of which are infeiror songs to me personally but would have worked better on the radio) as a lead instead it would have been a bigger hit and could also have lead to the album selling even more. you're right i barely even remember sexy no no no and probably wouldn't be able to name it as a single if asked. it's a good song sure but don't think it's that memorable at all. |
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Sep 18 2016, 10:20 AM
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'Sexy! No, No, No' will always be my favourite song of theirs!
I loved it as a lead single, such a bold choice to return with and the video was perfect. I get Joe's reasoning though and Rich's suggestion of releasing it later in the campaign is a good one! |
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Sep 18 2016, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(Cremey @ Sep 18 2016, 11:20 AM) 'Sexy! No, No, No' will always be my favourite song of theirs! I loved it as a lead single, such a bold choice to return with and the video was perfect. I get Joe's reasoning though and Rich's suggestion of releasing it later in the campaign is a good one! Yeah, I said that on the last page. 4th single would have been great. It needed he video treatment one way or another because that video is easily their best for me. I simply think it was a risk that didn't quite pay off as a lead single. |
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Sep 18 2016, 07:03 PM
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I personally couldn't imagine Sexy! as being anything other than the introductory single from the album.
 Extreme example, but for me it'd be rather like if the Spice Girls had left Spice Up Your Life as the last single from Spiceworld. To me both of these songs sound like bold & brashy "first singles" through and through, very "we're back, bitches!" (description copyright: JosephStyles  ).I wouldn't agree that it was a risk that didn't quite pay off either. It was another Top 5 for the girls, which was business as usual for them - and ultimately it started off what ended up being a successful album campaign for them, so I can't really see it as any kind of misfire, as a single choice. Random fact: 'Sexy!' was released to download on Friday, so they effectively lost two days of sales there. 1,693 sales to be exact, which was enough to see them enter at #64. With a full week of sales after that, they sold 21,612 to climb to #5 - that was just 300 sales behind James Blunt at #4, and 600 sales behind Kanye West at #3. |
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Sep 21 2016, 04:55 PM
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Sexy! No No No is aa good song but was a wrong lead single considering what they followed it up with. From a chart perspective if i remember rightly it came and left very quickly and departed much quicker than the usual singles from them.
Walk This Way was their worst single, it was plainly awful. |
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Sep 22 2016, 12:29 PM
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Top 40 chart runs, in order of points (1 week at #1 = 40 points, down to 1 week at #40 = 1 point):
#01, 13 weeks | 372 points | 01-01-01-01-03-05-09-15-19-19-22-27-38 [Sound of the Underground] #03, 15 weeks | 368 points | 09-03-03-05-09-07-07-11-16-20-23-29-33-38-34 [Call The Shots] #01, 14 weeks | 361 points | 01-02-03-06-07-10-15-20-19-14-15-25-37-xx-xx-xx-xx-39 [The Promise] #03, 12 weeks | 312 points | 05-03-03-07-12-09-14-18-28-32-21-28 [Something Kinda Ooooh] #01, 09 weeks | 266 points | 01-01-04-05-09-09-12-22-40 [I'll Stand By You] #02, 11 weeks | 247 points | 02-04-06-12-20-20-17-25-29-32-37 [Jump] #09, 11 weeks | 228 points | 35-20-16-09-11-14-18-21-23-27-29 [Can't Speak French] #04, 08 weeks | 184 points | 04-05-09-12-21-29-31-33 [Biology] #02, 07 weeks | 170 points | 02-02-08-18-21-32-34 [Love Machine] #02, 06 weeks | 162 points | 02-05-12-15-22-28 [The Show] #02, 06 weeks | 149 points | 02-05-11-17-26-36 [No Good Advice] #05, 05 weeks | 134 points | 05-07-12-21-26 [Sexy! No No No...] #01, 04 weeks | 123 points | 01-02-14-24 [Walk This Way] #04, 05 weeks | 120 points | 04-07-11-23-40 [I Think We're Alone Now] #04, 05 weeks | 120 points | 04-10-14-23-34 [Wake Me Up] #03, 05 weeks | 111 points | 03-08-16-31-36 [Life Got Cold] #10, 08 weeks | 107 points | 38-xx-39-29-10-14-24-29-38 [The Loving Kind] #09, 04 weeks | 089 points | 09-10-19-37 [See The Day] #07, 04 weeks | 083 points | 07-14-24-36 [Long Hot Summer] #02, 03 weeks | 077 points | 02-14-30 [Something New] #11, 05 weeks | 073 points | 36-27-11-21-37 [Untouchable] #06, 04 weeks | 072 points | 06-13-33-40 [Whole Lotta History] So 'Sexy! No No No...' is mid-table when it comes to how decent its chart run was by their own standards. I can't even at Something New's 3 weeks! |
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Sep 22 2016, 12:32 PM
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Yeah Sexy! No No No, was by no means a flop, they could have done a lot worse. I just do think they could have gone in with something that may have possibly been as big a hit as Call The Shots and Can't Speak French, rather than a business as usual minor hit.
QUOTE Walk This Way was their worst single, it was plainly awful. This is a different story though - it was still a good idea for charity and got them a number 1, even if it did fall into oblivion after that. |
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Sep 22 2016, 12:36 PM
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The Something New run makes me SICK
 But yeah, Sexy! did great, it set up the campaign well enough! Definitely don't think it shouldn't have been a single. |
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Sep 22 2016, 01:41 PM
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I can't at 'See The Day' getting TWO weeks top 10, yet 'Chemistry' got NONE
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Sep 22 2016, 08:22 PM
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Something New deserved such a more superior chart run than it achieved, one of their strongest singles.
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Sep 23 2016, 06:19 PM
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A few comments on what's been discussed here earlier:
Long Hot Summer - I never thought of this as the lead single from Chemistry, because it was originally written for a movie soundtrack (as someone had already mentioned it), it wasn't the real start of the next album campaign. To support this argument, I'd say I'm pretty sure no one has ever called Jump the lead single from What Will The Neighbours Say? Crazy Fool - This would have been an awful choice for a single for the band, because it's basically a Cheryl solo track. Although I like it more than anything from her actual solo catalogue, it's not really a stand out track for me in the GA songbook, and it's obviously not a band effort. Sexy! No No No... - I don't really think you can have Girls Aloud as the kind of band they were without having a song like this and releasing it as the lead single. Not doing the obvious and taking risks were essential parts of who they were. Beautiful Cause You Love Me - I still don't count this as a single. I know it was planned, but it wasn't released properly, it didn't even have its own artwork, ending up charting - as low as it did - as an album track on individual downloads. |
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Sep 24 2016, 04:27 PM
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I'm not suggesting the version we got of Crazy Fool should have been a single but maybe a beefed up edit with the other girls sharing vocals. That would have been 100 times better than I Think We're Alone Now.
Also I agree that LHS wasn't the lead single from Chemistry but Jump is a different situation because it was released on the new version of the Sound of the Underground album prior to What Will The Neighbours Say being released. |
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Sep 24 2016, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Sep 22 2016, 01:36 PM) The Something New run makes me SICK Perfect for the song then!
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Sep 24 2016, 06:51 PM
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Get OUT
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Dec 16 2016, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Sep 12 2016, 06:49 PM) SEE THE DAY AND WALK THIS WAY Both inexcusable. Beautiful 'Cause You Love Me shouldn't have happened FULL STOP But since it only reached #97, virtually no-one remembers it fortunately.  I was never keen on Jump. |
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Dec 16 2016, 10:47 AM
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Long Hot Summer, Beautiful Cause You Love Me and See The Day are the obvious ones
I also personally would have liked original songs over Jump and I Think We're Alone Now |
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Jun 27 2017, 10:48 PM
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I wish the cover versions had never happened. I love a good cover version, but I don't think theirs are any good. Their covers (of songs I love) probably stopped me becoming a fan of Girls Aloud before now.
I only bought The Sound of Girls Aloud a few weeks ago. I uploaded the non-covers to my ipod , and found myself liking their other hits more than I'd expected. And so, I went back to Poundland last week and bought What Will The Neighbours Say, Chemistry, and Out of Control. Today, I bought Sound of The Underground, and Tangled Up from a second hand shop. So, I'll vote in the Albums Rate thread once I've become more familiar with what feels like a lot of songs that are new to me. |
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