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Posted by: Liam.k. 7th May 2020, 12:29 PM



A thread to discuss everything about 2003's Body Language.

1. Slow
2. Still Standing
3. Secret (Take You Home)
4. Promises
5. Sweet Music
6. Red Blooded Woman
7. Chocolate
8. Obsession
9. I Feel For You
10. Someday
11. Loving Days
12. After Dark

Posted by: Dannyboy 7th May 2020, 03:48 PM

Worst Kylie album, love slow though, the other 2 singles are ok I suppose but loving days should have been a single

Posted by: pippa 7th May 2020, 04:06 PM

It falls very short among Kylie's albums, but offers some highlights.
Sweet Music I have as of late started to appreciate alongside the singles.
Slow is the highlight from the entire era.

Posted by: Dannyboy 7th May 2020, 04:10 PM

I loved the visuals but hated the vocals on the whole album

Posted by: Monzo 7th May 2020, 04:29 PM

I remember when I bought the Slow single and Sweet Music was on it, I thought this album must be great, but those two songs remain my favorites from it.

I still wonder why there was only one song written by Cathy Dennis on it. I like After Dark, but it's good it wasn't a single, because it's weaker than CGYOOMH and CIMW.

Posted by: pippa 7th May 2020, 04:36 PM

After the monster success Cathy Dennis brought to the Fever era they may have felt compelled to include at least one piece of her work on the follow up.

Posted by: SamJudd 9th May 2020, 06:14 PM

Skip a beat & move with my Body Language review =


Slow
Getting off to an almighty great start with this electro dance number, with some really cool synth sounds and some wonderful deep vocals by Kylie. The song is infectious with its repetitive lyrics and hypnotic rhythm and is definitely very different from any lead single from Kylie so far. Its a shame that the album didn't follow this sophisticated synth sound more, then this could have been another 'Fever' styled success on our hands. But as this stands this has to be one of Kylie's most adventurous offerings of her career.

Still Standing
The new feel of the album continues with some funky guitars and a superb synth beat, with some confident vocals by Kylie, which makes this a definite standout on here, a very well crafted pop song.

Secret (Take You Home)
Another strong sophisticated track with an awesome beat, thanks to the brilliant sample of "I Wonder If I Take You Home" by Lisa, Lisa and the Cult Jam, which works really well with the track, along with Kylie singing in that lower sexy voice it sounds so fantastic. The lyrics are cool too. Simple, but fun, and of course you gotta love Kylie rapping which is always cute and just swell. This should have been the 2nd or 3rd single from this album, a definite potential smash hit.

Promises
A somewhat slight change of pace now with another great slice of polished pop dance. Her vocals are a little too soft, but the electro beat and synth backing track really shine throughout, which makes for yet another very decent feel good track.

Sweet Music
This just oozes style and class, with a fun groove and funky beat, all of which makes for yet another strong standout moment on here.

Red Blooded Woman
The second single from this album, and not something I fully connected with at the time (felt a tad too Americanized), but alas this has grown on me through time and is a really strong single choice with Kylie's sexy vocals layered throughout the track, especially on the fantastic chorus and of course that fantastic music video, which adds more coolness to the track.

Chocolate
For the longest time I wasn't keen on this song, but over the past year this glorious little number has grown on me & now I can fully appreciate its brilliance. The sensual yet breathy vocals & the slow penetrating beats builds towards the epic synth strings with a distant hint of trumpets makes for a stunning yet classy number. Highly underrated that thankfully seems to be getting more love now & made for the perfect 3rd single choice.

Obsession
This was where things started to slide for me with this okay little number that has a nice fast pace that's a little cliched, but not bad by any means, somewhat fillerish in my opinion.

I Feel For You
A bit too out there for my liking, this just goes way off the rails and not in a good way, the distorted backing vocals are very off putting, but the bassline is quite good, however the song just doesn't do it for me.

Someday
Another album filler moment, with its darker and underlying tone with some very dreamy vocals which doesn't add much flare to this. Quite bland and probably the most forgettable moment on this album in general.

Loving Days
The funky groove remains, although this time with the backing of a full string orchestra, and Kylie's tender vocals just sweep across the melody and rises continuously till the spine-tingling middle eight when both strings and voice are unleashed. After a couple of not-so great tracks, this is a welcome treat with its epic sounding nature and definitely stands as one of the strongest offerings from this collection.

After Dark
A sultry number to end things now, with some nice seductive vocals and some pretty solid production, and while I wouldn't call this one of the better offerings, its still an okay track and would probably rank somewhere in the middle.





I have re-valuated my review of 'Chocolate'.

Posted by: Dannyboy 9th May 2020, 07:12 PM

You were far to generous on this album than I would have been, other than Slow, Loving Days and maybe Red Blooded Woman, this album is a total skip for me.

Posted by: ___∆___ 9th May 2020, 08:15 PM

It’s not a terrible album it’s just a terrible follow up to such an iconic era.

Posted by: Dannyboy 9th May 2020, 09:15 PM

No I genuinely think it’s a terrible album 😂 other than Slow I don’t listen to any of it

Posted by: dandy* 9th May 2020, 09:26 PM

I was surprised at just how bad it was when I listened to the album tracks for the rate in the 00s thread. I liked all of the styling when it was released but the songs really are forgettable and lacking in strong melodies.

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th May 2020, 12:14 AM

QUOTE(Dannyboy @ May 9 2020, 10:15 PM) *
No I genuinely think it’s a terrible album 😂 other than Slow I don’t listen to any of it


laugh.gif I haven’t listened to it for years. I also hated ‘Slow’ when it was released and was shocked it got to #1 kink.gif I love it now though.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th May 2020, 10:28 AM

It's a very plod along albums that doesn't change much from.staer to finish

Posted by: pippa 10th May 2020, 03:03 PM

It fails to offer standout tracks when listening in its entirety.
Slow has a unique quality when reviewing Kylie's singles but Body Language needed tracks that "popped" and made you feel you wanted to rush out on the dancefloor and it fails to achieve it.

Posted by: Hauspital* 10th May 2020, 03:56 PM

I really appreciate what she tried to do with this - mature, sensual pop with seductive production.. but it just isn't totally pulled off the way its intended and one part of that is that it feels quite disingenuous. Like Kylie trying to be something she is not. I get and fully embrace artists evolving (all my favourite artists do it), but they have to maintain a sense of themselves while doing it and this doesn't in my opinion.

The album is a decent listen and there are some strong moments throughout, but I am not in a major rush to return to it all too often!

Posted by: pippa 10th May 2020, 04:01 PM

Body Language does have the sound of Kylie trying to hard.
The album needed more pop electro songs to make it more appealing.
The change in direction was to radical after working so hard to win fans back with Light Years and Fever.

Posted by: Liam.k. 14th May 2020, 08:08 AM

QUOTE(dandy* @ May 9 2020, 10:26 PM) *
I was surprised at just how bad it was when I listened to the album tracks for the rate in the 00s thread. I liked all of the styling when it was released but the songs really are forgettable and lacking in strong melodies.


QUOTE(Hauspital* @ May 10 2020, 04:56 PM) *
I really appreciate what she tried to do with this - mature, sensual pop with seductive production.. but it just isn't totally pulled off the way its intended and one part of that is that it feels quite disingenuous. Like Kylie trying to be something she is not. I get and fully embrace artists evolving (all my favourite artists do it), but they have to maintain a sense of themselves while doing it and this doesn't in my opinion.

The album is a decent listen and there are some strong moments throughout, but I am not in a major rush to return to it all too often!

Aw I was hoping you guys might like it. It's certainly a marked departure from the previous two albums and lacks in 'danceable' material, but there's interesting productions and grooves that continue to grow with repeated listens. It took me a long time to fully appreciate this record but, now that it's clicked, I like it for offering something different and taking an understated, slow-burning approach.

It was probably too big a leap to go from Fever to Body Language, not that Kylie should have just created a Fever 2.0, but she should have released something more instant and dancefloor friendly. The lack of connection with this record isn't helped by fans feeling it was aimed at perusing American audiences and Kylie had 'abandoned' them. If true, it doesn't make sense because the Fever sound is what compelled the US to Kylie...

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th May 2020, 11:56 AM

Ya the album was too much of a change, she needed something else before an album like body language to ease into that sound. Giving you up sound would have done that.

Posted by: indiekylie 14th May 2020, 01:43 PM

I'm surprised people don't like this album. It's my favourite of Kylie's. Tracks, B-Sides, videos, performances, visuals, it was all great!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th May 2020, 02:18 PM

It has its moment although few but down as the bottom end for me.the launch concert on ITV was great though.

Posted by: pippa 14th May 2020, 03:55 PM

Body Language was a courageous move after the roaring success of Fever.
That said, it shows Kylie, when she moves away from pop she loses fans.
Each time Kylie moves slightly away from pop the follow up leads her back to it with improvements.
After Body Language came 2 great singles, I Believe In You and Giving You Up.
Kiss Me Once was another slight move away from pop and back she came with the wonderful Golden.
The same could be said for Light Years following in the footsteps of Impossible Princess.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th May 2020, 07:57 PM

Ya when kylie sticks to pop the audience react better. It's a shame she went so far away in sound from fever with body language as if she hadn't I really think she would have had a far bigger selling album. She def didnt take full advantage of the bug success by following it up with something similar. If I believe in you was the lead single on the fever follow up things would have been different.


Posted by: pippa 14th May 2020, 08:16 PM

I would have preferred something similar to Fever as it was a style I enjoyed and the market enjoyed what Kylie was offering.
Body Language R n B lavour falls flat and the songs in large lack clear identity.
There was braveness in the move by Kylie but it was a disappointing move.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 15th May 2020, 01:51 AM

It was brave but I'd have preferred something safer.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 15th May 2020, 10:03 AM

I appreciate and respect the fact she didn't just spit out a carbon copy of Fever though, even though it would have been the easy and predictable thing to do.

I do still have very special memories attached to the album and I probably wouldn't change anything (except 'Secret' being a single, I'll never get over that). I'd also say the album is largely electro-pop than R&B.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 15th May 2020, 10:08 AM

QUOTE(pippa @ May 14 2020, 04:55 PM) *
Body Language was a courageous move after the roaring success of Fever.
That said, it shows Kylie, when she moves away from pop she loses fans.
Each time Kylie moves slightly away from pop the follow up leads her back to it with improvements.
After Body Language came 2 great singles, I Believe In You and Giving You Up.
Kiss Me Once was another slight move away from pop and back she came with the wonderful Golden.
The same could be said for Light Years following in the footsteps of Impossible Princess.


How is Kiss Me Once a move away from pop? I fully get that you don't like the album, but it's as about as pop as you can get.

Posted by: pippa 15th May 2020, 02:33 PM

The album feels more dubstep R&B in many parts than pop.
Most of the tracks are not dancefloor fillers and lack the feel good intensity that many Kylie tracks usually offer.

Posted by: Red Blooded Man 15th May 2020, 02:57 PM

Body Language lacks a killer track that propels it to the stardom Fever enjoys. Slow provided a fantastic beginning but nowhere near as good as Head. Red Blooded Woman has an awesome video.

Posted by: ___∆___ 15th May 2020, 08:11 PM

Forum listening party for BL next Friday at 7.30pm cheer.gif http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=233774

Posted by: Hauspital* 15th May 2020, 10:28 PM

So I've given this album another go (for the rate mainly, but also to see if it grew) and I think it's even more tedious than before. Some of the album tracks are painfully forgettable :'( Nothing is sticking with me. I will keep because I am sure there is goodness somewhere within it, but this is not what I want from Kylie. I'm sorry Liam cry.gif!!! 'Loving Days' stands out as the strongest album track, possibly?

Posted by: ___∆___ 15th May 2020, 10:31 PM

QUOTE(Hauspital* @ May 15 2020, 11:28 PM) *
So I've given this album another go (for the rate mainly, but also to see if it grew) and I think it's even more tedious than before. Some of the album tracks are painfully forgettable :'( Nothing is sticking with me. I will keep because I am sure there is goodness somewhere within it, but this is not what I want from Kylie. I'm sorry Liam cry.gif!!! 'Loving Days' stands out as the strongest album track, possibly?


Generic R&B-lite pop - not an area Kylie should ever venture in to ever again tbh kink.gif

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th May 2020, 10:37 PM

QUOTE(Hauspital* @ May 15 2020, 11:28 PM) *
So I've given this album another go (for the rate mainly, but also to see if it grew) and I think it's even more tedious than before. Some of the album tracks are painfully forgettable :'( Nothing is sticking with me. I will keep because I am sure there is goodness somewhere within it, but this is not what I want from Kylie. I'm sorry Liam cry.gif!!! 'Loving Days' stands out as the strongest album track, possibly?

Aw well at least you like 'Loving Days'! That was the first album track to hit me. Can you hear similarities in the instrumental with Janet's 'Come Back to Me' towards the end?

Posted by: pippa 15th May 2020, 11:23 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ May 15 2020, 11:31 PM) *
Generic R&B-lite pop - not an area Kylie should ever venture in to ever again tbh kink.gif

Generic R&B lite pop is a brilliant description of the material Body Language offers.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th May 2020, 12:17 AM

I'm hoping the next listening party will help me out with this album, I will be listening to this a few times in its entirety and something outside slow and chocolate may click with me.

Posted by: Andrew. 14th November 2020, 02:04 AM

I had no idea what to expect when I played this. I hadn’t even heard Slow before mellow.gif I did a bit of reading up on the general reception to the album which I know you shouldn’t really before you listen as it could make you biased for or against but I was just really curious. And I adore the album so much wub.gif

I get the criticisms that it’s not really Kylie and she’s trying to be something she’s not, but sultry lyrics and rhythms have always been part of Kylie’s repertoire, not in the way of this album but it’s an electro-pop record, again not a world away from her ‘usual’ material (from 2000 onwards, I haven’t started 80s and 90s Kylie albums yet x). The production on this album is so goooood cheeseblock.png Really pulsating and silky, ik that sounds cringe but it’s true :’) There’s a lot to unpack with every song. The production doesn’t overpower her voice either, other than a few moments they blend perfectly. Her voice actually sounds better than on any of the albums I’ve heard so far, I love especially on this album when the production is mixed with her higher register.

It’s not without fault, that one-two punch of I Feel 4 U and Someday as the worst tracks on the record (the former mostly, an irritation) was choices! But they’re not even bad and there’s a heap of highlights. Slow, Secret, Promises, Sweet Music, Chocolate and After Dark were my faves. It was different, but for me she pulled it off.

Ranking of the albums I’ve listened to:
1. Fever
2. Aphrodite
3. Body Language
4. Disco
5. Light Years
6. Golden
7. Kiss Me Once

Not much between 3-5 to be fair! Golden is also a very strong album clap.gif

Posted by: Nina West 14th November 2020, 03:00 AM

My Body Language ranking:

01. Slow
02. Secret (Take You Home)
03. Red Blooded Woman
04. Chocolate
05. Loving Days
06. Still Standing
07. Promises
08. Sweet Music
09. After Dark
10. Obsession
11. I Feel For You
12. Someday



Posted by: dabblie 14th November 2020, 03:07 AM

I loved reading your reaction, Andrew! I'm actually delighted that you love BL. It's one of the "dark horse"s in Kylie's discography and divides fans' opinions.

This came out after Fever, after Kylie was on top of the world with her sleek, robotic, somewhat minimal dance-pop sound. Nobody expected the followup to sound like Body Language! That's one of the reasons it divided fans. I was thrown off too, but grew to love the album. I love the mix of electro, 80s synthpop, and R&B/hip-hop. I find it a bit less catchy than Fever, but more sophisticated and definitely more rhythmic.

I don't love everything about BL. After Obsession, the final stretch of the album feels very patchy to me. But I do love the bonus tracks and B-sides! Off the top of my head, I remember Cruise Control, Soul on Fire, City Games, Almost a Lover, and the incredible Slo Motion wub.gif

It's very interesting that you enjoy her vocals the most on this, versus the other Parlophone and BMG albums. She is SUPER breathy on this album. I get the feeling her whispery, "helium" vocals are another reason why BL is divisive in the fanbase. Even a BL lover like me would prefer less breathy, "chipmunky" vocals on many of the songs laugh.gif

The 3 videos from this album are also some of Kylie's best videos, IMO.

Overall, I love BL. Now with DISCO in the mix, though, I'm unsure if BL stays in my Top 3 or Top 5 of Kylie's albums unsure.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th November 2020, 04:07 PM

As much as I dont really love the album it was a brave move by kylie and it highlights kylie doesnt always play safe and it equally highlights many of her fans simoly prefer more upbeat pop kylie which kylie thankfully always returns to.
I think across kylies 15 studio albums she shows diversity as her albums have a wide variety of sounds. Right now she seems to be on a roll delivering what her fans really want and enjoy and I'm enjoying kylie as much as I ever did.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 14th November 2020, 05:10 PM

1. Secret (Take You Home)
2. Slow
3. Loving Days
4. Chocolate
5. Sweet Music
6. After Dark
7. Still Standing
8. Red Blooded Woman
9. Promises
10. Obsession

11. I Feel For You
12. Someday

Those last two are definitely the worst songs by far, everything else has its place.

Posted by: Simon. 15th December 2020, 05:11 PM

Currently listening to Body Language for the first time properly, has she performed 'Loving Days' somewhere before? It sounds very familiar.

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th December 2020, 12:13 AM

QUOTE(Simon. @ Dec 15 2020, 05:11 PM) *
Currently listening to Body Language for the first time properly, has she performed 'Loving Days' somewhere before? It sounds very familiar.

Unfortunately not. sad.gif I'm fairly certain there's an uncredited Janet Jackson sample in there though.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th December 2020, 02:03 AM

Body language I went back to for the listening party here in the forum and apart from a couple of songs the rest i cant be bothered with.

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th December 2020, 08:21 AM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ Dec 16 2020, 02:03 AM) *
Body language I went back to for the listening party here in the forum and apart from a couple of songs the rest i cant be bothered with.


This, however many times I listen to it I still don’t love it. It all seems to blend in to one tbh.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 16th December 2020, 09:41 PM

Yes it very much blends into one in most places and it makes it a hard listen.

Posted by: pippa 16th December 2020, 11:54 PM

I feel Body Language did more damage than good to Kylies career.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th December 2020, 12:20 AM

It killed the huge momentum of light years and fever but ultimate kylie came at the right time to turn things around.

Posted by: pippa 17th December 2020, 12:25 AM

It did eat away sales.
Body Language was aimed to capitalize on the American success of Can't Get You Out of my Head and it failed.

Posted by: dabblie 17th December 2020, 02:53 PM

It's not the first or the last Kylie album to disappoint commercially while delivering lots of great songs heart.gif

Commercial letdowns like the BL and KMO eras didn't really affect my love for those songs, because I'm a Canadian fan laugh.gif Any sort of chart or sales success is just a bonus rather than expectation, from my perspective as a diehard fan of Kylie's, a niche artist without decades of national love on these shores.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 17th December 2020, 05:19 PM

Yes the perspective is different when you look at it from a country where Kylie is a niche artist.

Posted by: pippa 18th December 2020, 01:05 AM

The decline was more in view to the markets Kylie performs in strongly.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 18th December 2020, 11:21 AM

It wasn't a total disaster though, and nobody can keep up that level of momentum forever.

She could have easily spat out a copy of Fever but I respect her a whole lot more for not doing so and taking a bit of a risk.

Posted by: pippa 18th December 2020, 01:54 PM

I welcome the risk but the dramatic change was too much too quick.

Posted by: Santa Haus 5th January 2021, 06:39 PM

I was not keen on this album on the couple of times that I listened to it previously, but I have returned to it today with fresh ears...

1. Red Blooded Woman
2. Slow
3. Loving Days
4. Promises
5. Chocolate
6. Secret (Take You Home)
7. Obsession
8. Still Standing
9. Sweet Music
10. After Dark
11. Someday
12. I Feel For You

...and nothing has changed sad.gif 'Red Blooded Woman' is incredible and one of my favourite Kylie singles, and 'Slow' is a good listen too but there is very little else. I found it very hard to rank the rest because nothing really stood out as an individual track that I could properly distinguish from the rest (and this is my 3rd listen through from start to end drama.gif). I think I need to accept that the album isn't for me and you can't win them all kink.gif Some real highs but the rest is obscure, ambigious, lows.

Album ranking
01. Fever
02. Kylie Minogue
03. Rhythm of Love
04. Light Years
05. Impossible Princess
06. Kylie
07. Enjoy Yourself
08. Let's Get To It
09. Body Language

Posted by: pippa 5th January 2021, 10:45 PM

Body Language was creative but boring through most of the album.

Posted by: ___∆___ 6th January 2021, 07:59 PM

Agree with your review, it’s such a bore fest of an album - I’ve revisited it so many times and it all just seems to roll into one tbh, it was such a let down at the time after the iconic Fever era.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 6th January 2021, 08:39 PM

It is a borefest, like others i have tried this album so many times and overall it feels like one very long song that at times feels like it will never end, such a let down after fever and light years.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 6th January 2021, 11:56 PM

I can easily distinguish between each track, although I don't know if that's because I have an attachment to the songs having been a fixture of my life since I was 16 (well, except for the two absolute CLUNKERS which Haus highlighted in his ranking)

Posted by: aeroco 7th January 2021, 08:46 AM

Will give it another listen from start to end as it’s been a while. Never considered it a borefest haha but I can see why people would think that.

Posted by: McAndrew 7th January 2021, 09:24 AM

I think BL has some pretty decent moments. 'Promises' is one of my most-played album tracks. But probably the most Fever-esque track on the album.

Posted by: aeroco 7th January 2021, 12:16 PM

Just listened to it twice through whilst on a rampant cleaning mission...it’s slick and well produced. I think they went for sexy production over catchy melodies.

The three singles plus Still Standing are the standouts, and I have a soft spot for Sweet Music, immediately takes me back to November 2003.

Posted by: pippa 7th January 2021, 01:51 PM

The limited hooks and lack of upbeat songs make the album mundane.
The singles save the album from been Kylies least enjoyable album.
I fear Kylie's next album could be experimental which is something I don't want from her as albums like Body Language and Kiss Me Once undo the goodwill built up from the great albums before them.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 7th January 2021, 08:49 PM

I wouldn't exactly call KMO experimental. Something like Impossible Princess I definitely would though.

But I think she's got a team around her who really know what they're doing now, so I'm not at all worried about whatever direction she goes in.

Posted by: pippa 7th January 2021, 11:45 PM

Kiss Me Once was a huge nest of sounds that delivered very little and delivered half heartidly by Kylie.

Posted by: aeroco 8th January 2021, 09:29 AM

QUOTE(pippa @ Jan 7 2021, 11:45 PM) *
Kiss Me Once was a huge nest of sounds that delivered very little and delivered half heartidly by Kylie.


Yes, the thing about KMO is it is also production (style) over melody (substance).

Posted by: pippa 8th January 2021, 01:17 PM

Kiss me Once lacked depth and substance and Kylie not fully supporting the project took away even more from the era.
With Body Language it came one album too early. For success purposes Kylie needed to follow Fever with something similar to take advantage of her market gain and then followed with Body Language.
The decline from Fever to Body Language was a huge disappointment that could have been avoided to a lesser extent. The follow up to Fever should have easily achieved double platinum status before it's fade out from the market.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 8th January 2021, 02:46 PM

Shoulda woulda coulda

Posted by: Jay❄ 8th January 2021, 04:43 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Jan 7 2021, 01:51 PM) *
Albums like Body Language and Kiss Me Once undo the goodwill built up from the great albums before them.

QUOTE(pippa @ Jan 7 2021, 11:45 PM) *
Kiss Me Once was a huge nest of sounds that delivered very little and delivered half heartidly by Kylie.

QUOTE(pippa @ Jan 8 2021, 01:17 PM) *
Kiss me Once lacked depth and substance and Kylie not fully supporting the project took away even more from the era.


Does it not get boring criticising Kiss Me Once at every opportunity whistle.gif kink.gif

I find it interesting that you say you don’t want Kylie to experiment. Technically that’s what she did to land on the sound she delivered with Golden. When it comes to the music she creates, I would always want her to be authentic to herself and do what her heart desires. She can’t please all her fans all the time (a chunk of the fan base are highly critical of Disco), and she’s likely not always going to get #1s. I’d rather her next album be what she wants it to be, and if it’s “experimental” that would be quite exciting. It’ll be interesting to see which way she goes for her next era.

To be on topic about Body Language, I’m unfamiliar with most of the tracks. I don’t think I’ve given it a full play since 2003 or 2004... I keep intending to listen to every Kylie album, I’ll have to revisit Body Language someday.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 8th January 2021, 07:21 PM

Id be happier to see kylie stick to her upbeat material, for me kylie has been on fire with both golden and disco and i hope that continues, the only blip for me was the awful new york city single which i hate. I was initially worried that disco might be a disappointment after golden which was a very solid album but disco blew that worry out the door. Body language was a real disappointment after fever, but i think it was a disappointing album in general no matter what it followed as im not really into that type of music in general. Kiss me once just goes over my head, i didnt really connect much with it. Sometimes albums that are disappointing lead to greater things which has generally happened with kylie, with the albums i was disappointed with the follow up more than made up for it.

Posted by: Dawid 9th January 2021, 11:12 AM

Ahh Body Language, i love this album, from star to finish
<3

I know it's an unpopular opinion, but for me Body Language is better than Fever... :X




Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 9th January 2021, 03:22 PM

That's a really interesting opinion as with the music styles on both so so different I've always assumed that a small fraction of fans enjoyed this style from Kylie but a larger amount like myself much preferred Fever.

Posted by: pippa 9th January 2021, 09:14 PM

Body Language: The Disco Edition.
That could potentially improve the standard of the album.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th January 2021, 12:00 AM

Could be good, I'd like to hear the songs if they were remixed in a fast version.

Posted by: Jay❄ 10th January 2021, 05:59 AM

QUOTE(pippa @ Jan 9 2021, 09:14 PM) *
Body Language: The Disco Edition.
That could potentially improve the standard of the album.

What a random thought kink.gif

I will say that the Slow remix for Infinite Disco was great though - it's definitely one of her most versatile songs - but nothing ever tops the perfect original for me.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 10th January 2021, 03:04 PM

The original slow remains the best but slow has more character than all the other songs on the album. I'd like to hear more new mixes of some of the other tracks to see how they would sound.

Posted by: pippa 10th January 2021, 07:11 PM

Slow Infinite Version made me believe all Body Language should receive the same treatment.

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Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th June 2022, 03:37 PM

Chocolate is one of the few songs from that time i can say i genuinely like, but it took until i saw it on tour before i liked it, glad this went top 10 for her.

Posted by: Jessie Where 28th June 2022, 03:54 PM

I remember vividly buying both CDs of it on release week, and being unsure whether it would actually make the top 10 for her. I remember being pleasantly surprised when it showed up in the midweeks at #4. 18 years since the Body Language era concluded!

It used to be such a big fave of mine, I still like it but not quite as much as I used to. The vocals on it kinda irritate me these days.

Amazing video. wub.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 28th June 2022, 03:59 PM

Ya I was worried it would miss the top 10 aswell and break the run of top 10 singles she was having at that time but was happy it safely got there,

Posted by: ___∆___ 28th June 2022, 04:24 PM

I hated the BL era and singles (I remember being shocked that ‘Slow’ made it to #1).

I of course duly bought all the CD singles etc., but the whole project was a let down for me - I have to say I now love the singles, lathe album is another story of course sleep.gif

Posted by: Liam.k. 28th June 2022, 05:41 PM

It's a shame 'Chocolate' has become one of Kylie's forgotten singles. I love the hypnotic vibe of the song, the soothing groove, the flourishes of synths throughout. The video is also a forgotten beauty, very artistic! She did two Top of the Pops performances too that included chorography from the video - must be the most detailed chorography she's done?


Posted by: Red Blooded Man 28th June 2022, 08:33 PM

Oh my god, I want to dance like her wub.gif

I love how she sang "AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" wub.gif

Posted by: Liam.k. 4th July 2022, 02:47 PM

Johnny Douglas, who produced the original song, has done a remake of 'Body Language' outtake 'On the Up'.


Posted by: ___∆___ 5th July 2022, 09:21 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Jul 4 2022, 03:47 PM) *
Johnny Douglas, who produced the original song, has done a remake of 'Body Language' outtake 'On the Up'.



Body Language 20th anniversary next year so maybe something is being planned?

Posted by: Jessie Where 5th July 2022, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Jul 5 2022, 10:21 PM) *
Body Language 20th anniversary next year so maybe something is being planned?


That sentence just sent a shudder right through me! drama.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 5th July 2022, 09:54 PM

It wouldn't be anything that would excite me in the way Ip vinyl does, body language is more a chore support rather than a love support if that makes sense.

Posted by: Liam.k. 10th November 2022, 09:27 PM

Happy 19th birthday to 'Body Language'! Say what you want about the album, the photoshoots from this era are 10/10. heart.gif

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Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 11th November 2022, 12:25 AM

The photoshots are good but the album itself remains a disappointment. A really disappointing follow up to 2 of her very best albums.

Posted by: pippa 13th November 2022, 02:50 PM

Body Language, the gamble that never truly paid off commercially.

Posted by: Jessie Where 16th November 2022, 11:23 AM

I mean, we can debate that over and over again until the cows come home.

Posted by: Red Blooded Man 17th November 2022, 10:22 PM

Well she did say in her new album, she would take the style of "Slow" which was originally intended for Body Language so we will see if it pays off for her this time.

Judging CIMW was released in November, then she took a well-deserved break, I'd say Body Language was recorded in a rush.

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th August 2023, 02:25 PM

They are coming for our coin this year!

https://ibb.co/QYMqRzM

Posted by: aeroco 16th August 2023, 02:33 PM

Ooooh I’ll definitely get this over Kylie 88.

Posted by: -Jay- 16th August 2023, 02:34 PM

Oh ohmy.gif I wonder how they found that out? Hype!!

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th August 2023, 02:45 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Aug 16 2023, 03:34 PM) *
Oh ohmy.gif I wonder how they found that out? Hype!!


They are usually spot on too - I think they get info from the labels due to the success of their site/links.

Posted by: Jessie Where 16th August 2023, 03:00 PM

It'll feel so weird when Body Language's 20th anniversary gets here, as I jumped on board (pun semi-intended) halfway through the Fever era it was the first campaign I followed from the very beginning as a fan, and I remember it all so vividly.

Posted by: 34+35 16th August 2023, 03:05 PM

Kylie looked incredible during the Body Language era, maybe the best she ever looked. I remember being so confused, she looked younger in 2004 than she did in 2000.

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th August 2023, 03:12 PM

^^ Agree, she looked iconic and the styling and marketing was spot on, just a shame the album isn’t very good kink.gif

Excited for a vinyl release though!

Posted by: -Jay- 16th August 2023, 03:20 PM

I wonder what colours we could expect for Body Language vinyl? ohmy.gif Maybe just white? Only half black half white, that would be interesting.

Posted by: Jessie Where 16th August 2023, 03:24 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Aug 16 2023, 04:20 PM) *
I wonder what colours we could expect for Body Language vinyl? ohmy.gif Maybe just white? Only half black half white, that would be interesting.


Othello vinyl!

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th August 2023, 03:31 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Aug 16 2023, 04:20 PM) *
I wonder what colours we could expect for Body Language vinyl? ohmy.gif Maybe just white? Only half black half white, that would be interesting.


I’m half expecting Parlophone to put in the same amount of effort as they did with their recent KC reissue drama.gif

However, they might be hoping to replicate similar success of the IP release.

Posted by: HausofKubrick 16th August 2023, 03:55 PM

Really not here for this as an album but I'll still be a sucker and get the vinyl tearsmile.gif

Posted by: Yobnedor 16th August 2023, 04:53 PM

He’s been spot on with Kylie links so far. He was a bit slow on Tension dropping (no pun intended) but generally speaking…

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th August 2023, 07:27 PM

Ooh, was not expecting this when they announced the debut album release on vinyl, feels a lot to ask of fans to buy both albums as well as Tension a couple of months prior.

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th August 2023, 08:45 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Aug 16 2023, 08:27 PM) *
Ooh, was not expecting this when they announced the debut album release on vinyl, feels a lot to ask of fans to buy both albums as well as Tension a couple of months prior.


This!

We have barren times as Kylie fans and then comes along IP, PP, KM88, Tension & BL along with Vegas and the upcoming UK tour announcement. Plus the Dannii re-releases too, it’s famine to feast.

If they spaced them out they would probably pick up more sales, I’ve seen som many comments from people saying they can’t afford both versions of KM88 or will wait to buy it.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 16th August 2023, 09:09 PM

Yes huge amount of releases coming that will leave a big hole in the pockets of the fans, its great they are all getting released but its a shame they are all so close to each other. I dont have much heed on the body language release but will buy a vinyl for the collection but its not an album i listen to. I would be much more excited for Kylie her debut as i genuinely enjoy the album alot.

Posted by: neill2407 16th August 2023, 10:53 PM

QUOTE(34+35 @ Aug 16 2023, 04:05 PM) *
Kylie looked incredible during the Body Language era, maybe the best she ever looked. I remember being so confused, she looked younger in 2004 than she did in 2000.


Apart from slow video, I didn’t like her image during body language.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 16th August 2023, 11:48 PM

Some of the photo shoots are good but overall I never felt it was kylies best image or anywhere close.

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th August 2023, 01:49 AM

Erm the Body Language era was AMAZING for looks!








Posted by: Jessie Where 17th August 2023, 06:38 AM

Agreed, she also looked STUNNING in all 3 videos! 🔥

Posted by: SmileyKylie 18th August 2023, 09:25 AM

Perfect Christmas Presents to be honest though.

How many people get Lynx Africa box set for £4.99 and a 5 pair of socks for £6.99 and a box of Roses for £5.

Get people what they actually want and pre-order a Kylie vinyl, wrap it up and make them very happy.

Lots of November releases. Maybe to fit in with the thing that is coming end of November, not in Las Vegas......

Posted by: Sacred3 24th August 2023, 11:31 PM

The music videos were ace during this era

Posted by: Liam.k. 3rd September 2023, 09:34 PM

Alexis Strum's unreleased album 'Addicted' with Warner from 2002 has been uploaded to streaming platforms, which features the original 'Still Standing' (also on the album is 'Nothing Good About This Goodbye' which was later recorded by Rachel Stevens):


Posted by: Liam.k. 22nd September 2023, 02:25 PM


Posted by: Melancholia 22nd September 2023, 03:59 PM

I really hope they put the Body Language tees on her store, I need the white one.

I reckon we'll get a silver vinyl for this and a black and white marble?

Posted by: ___∆___ 22nd September 2023, 10:40 PM

QUOTE(Melancholia @ Sep 22 2023, 04:59 PM) *
I really hope they put the Body Language tees on her store, I need the white one.

I reckon we'll get a silver vinyl for this and a black and white marble?


I think all pop up shop BL items will get added to the website - I feel this was just a pop up exclusive but they’ve been produced for the re-release.

Posted by: Liam.k. 22nd September 2023, 11:19 PM

QUOTE(Melancholia @ Sep 22 2023, 04:59 PM) *
I reckon we'll get a silver vinyl for this and a black and white marble?

Yes I would LOVE this!!

Posted by: Padamic Tension 23rd September 2023, 08:53 AM

A black and white marble would be fitting for body language.
I'm delighted to see another kylie album get the vinyl treatment but this is definitely a purchase for collection purposes for me as its not an album I listen to apart from slow and chocolate.

Posted by: ___∆___ 24th September 2023, 06:57 PM

I wonder if Kylie has approved this release? With BL items appearing in the pop up shop I’m hoping that she’s signed off this re-issue as she seemed to ignore others that Parlophone have done.

Posted by: pippa 24th September 2023, 07:03 PM

Having Body Language part of the pop up shop would suggest Kylie has approved it.

Posted by: Liam.k. 10th October 2023, 06:06 PM

'Colour My Life' has leaked in full:


Posted by: Padamic Tension 10th October 2023, 07:23 PM

Colour my life doesnt do much for me at all.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th October 2023, 07:55 AM

^^ agree, nice to have these outtakes but generally I never think they are missed opportunities etc

Posted by: SmileyKylie 16th November 2023, 07:06 AM

Looks like Body Language vinyl is indeed coming

https://www.amazon.it/dp/B0CN9LHYDD/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=1QK86TSA6W3GO&keywords=body+language+kylie&qid=1700118371&rnid=1640607031&s=music&sprefix=body+language+kylie%2Caps%2C287&sr=1-3

Posted by: aeroco 16th November 2023, 07:41 AM

Yeeeessss

Posted by: -Jay- 16th November 2023, 09:06 AM

A red vinyl (inspired by Red Blooded Woman) and it’s released on 23rd February 2024 (my birthday!)

Posted by: SmileyKylie 16th November 2023, 09:29 AM

Not paying. 33 quid for a single vinyl Townsend.....

Will wait for Amazon lol

https://townsendmusic.store/product/125712

Going to be £40 with p&p
Nope

Posted by: SmileyKylie 16th November 2023, 09:30 AM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Nov 16 2023, 09:06 AM) *
A red vinyl (inspired by Red Blooded Woman) and it’s released on 23rd February 2024 (my birthday!)


Perfect..... I have time to save.

I still need to get extended and Kylie 35th anniversary vinyls yet

It's 35 on HMV! At least p&p is free.

I am guessing they haven't even pressed them yet until they get some pre order numbers

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th November 2023, 09:58 AM

wub.gif cheer.gif

https://ibb.co/3zZNB5M

Posted by: SmileyKylie 16th November 2023, 09:59 AM

Should get a decent chart position in the February Albums Market.

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th November 2023, 10:02 AM

Amazon link for when it goes live - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CN9LHYDD?ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_XNXYGFWBT4RTBC9KWMD9&fbclid=IwAR0ELAxyvvH0qCXQzFdVTcech1N8uOfMAJ5Lq8mDrZ4DL1Z15cS_5j7K63g_aem_AV5
69f6QEVwXYZPgWIMUtGU5D70FILDf_2krXZBw8w7aJRer_sXW1XiI4Q3qR5SH-Lk

I’ve done the refer a friend 20% off offer with HMV so £27.99 - I can’t see Amazon being lower than that.

Posted by: Melancholia 16th November 2023, 11:24 AM

Ordered from Amazon. I'm thrilled it's coming of course, but that colour is not Body Language in any way. Cappuccino coloured marble is what I would've loved.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 16th November 2023, 11:30 AM

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Language-Limited-Anniversary-Blooded-Vinyl/dp/B0CN9LHYDD/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=kylie+body+language&qid=1700134027&sr=8-7

Now live on Amazon 32.99

Posted by: SmileyKylie 16th November 2023, 11:31 AM

QUOTE(Melancholia @ Nov 16 2023, 11:24 AM) *
Ordered from Amazon. I'm thrilled it's coming of course, but that colour is not Body Language in any way. Cappuccino coloured marble is what I would've loved.


It's Red Blooded..... its practically the colour of one of the albums singles lol

Posted by: SmileyKylie 16th November 2023, 11:39 AM



Nice

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th November 2023, 11:53 AM

The online reaction to the colour is…. odd?

Everyone seems up in arms about it yet they’ve referenced the song to the colour, I mean yea they could’ve done a white version but it’s not like they’ve gone for neon green or something and have at least linked the colour the album.

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th November 2023, 12:45 PM

I must admit I was a little confused when I saw the red vinyl, only because I was expecting a black and white marble vinyl and it hadn't clicked that the colour was referencing 'Red Blooded Woman'. Seems obvious now!

Happy we've got this and a good idea to wait until February to release, coinciding with the 20th anniversary of the US release, given there's her debut album re-released this month and 'Extension' released in December. Curious as to how this will do chart-wise, it's not one of Kylie's most loved released yet this is its first ever vinyl release. I'd be happy if this could return to the Top 40.

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th November 2023, 12:45 PM


Posted by: Jessie Where 16th November 2023, 12:56 PM

I totally thought it'd be an Othello vinyl if anything!


Posted by: ___∆___ 16th November 2023, 02:19 PM

QUOTE(SmileyKylie @ Nov 16 2023, 09:59 AM) *
Should get a decent chart position in the February Albums Market.


I was just looking at last February’s album chart - it was taking 2.5k to make the Top 40, it might do it but it will be hampered with only 1 variant and I can’t see it picking up many streaming points weekly?

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th November 2023, 02:29 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Nov 16 2023, 02:19 PM) *
I was just looking at last February’s album chart - it was taking 2.5k to make the Top 40, it might do it but it will be hampered with only 1 variant and I can’t see it picking up many streaming points weekly?

The album was only averaging 8 chart sales in between the totals we got for it in 2019 and 2020. laugh.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th November 2023, 04:58 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Nov 16 2023, 02:29 PM) *
The album was only averaging 8 chart sales in between the totals we got for it in 2019 and 2020. laugh.gif


It’s what it deserves sleep.gif kink.gif

Posted by: -Jay- 16th November 2023, 07:37 PM

Ordered from Amazon! I hope over the next few months the price randomly goes down a bit, that sometimes happens. Although having said that, Kylie 35th Anniversary vinyl on Amazon increased from £24.99 to £27.99 during the preorder laugh.gif

Posted by: markivj 16th November 2023, 09:06 PM

Seeing as it's releasing in mid feb, i wonder if it has a chance of top 10 again.

Posted by: Jessie Where 16th November 2023, 09:28 PM

I think with it only being available on one variant and also it not being her most revered album, I can see it clocking up like 2k ish which would probably put it somewhere outside the top 40.

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th November 2023, 11:12 PM

QUOTE(markivj @ Nov 16 2023, 09:06 PM) *
Seeing as it's releasing in mid feb, i wonder if it has a chance of top 10 again.


I’d be shocked if it went Top 30 tbh - also she would need to shift 5-6k for a Top 10 and I can’t see it being anywhere near that Unless we get a few more variants.

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th November 2023, 01:09 AM

#1 on Amazon's Best Sellers! cheer.gif Showing as 400+ copies sold so far.

Posted by: Jessie Where 17th November 2023, 01:11 AM

Omg, already doubling its total sales. Get in!

Posted by: Padamic Tension 17th November 2023, 02:19 AM

I think she might manage low top 40 at best with this, I don't think it has the same excitement among fans as other releases.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 17th November 2023, 08:18 AM

Already 800+ bought on Amazon since yesterday! cheer.gif cheer.gif cheer.gif wub.gif
EDIT: 900+ bought! dance.gif music.gif yahoo.gif


current best seller in their music chart.


looks like a Standard black vinyl coming too.......

https://www.sanity.com.au/products/2963236/Body-Language-20th-Anniversary


Can we dream of a number 1 album?


Number 14 on HMV Best selling current pre-orders. The Tension Extended is 12th

Posted by: ___∆___ 17th November 2023, 11:11 AM

Standard black is only available in Australia atm - hopefully it’ll pop up here soon.

Surprised they are going for multiple variants as they didn’t bother with Light Years, Kylie Christmas etc., - maybe they were spurred on by the success of IP?

Posted by: Jessie Where 17th November 2023, 11:23 AM

Were multi-formats much of a thing when they did the Light Years re-issue?

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th November 2023, 12:14 PM

Also wasn't the 'Light Years' vinyl one of those Sainsbury exclusives?

Posted by: ___∆___ 17th November 2023, 05:54 PM

QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Nov 17 2023, 11:23 AM) *
Were multi-formats much of a thing when they did the Light Years re-issue?


It was re-released the same year as Golden so multi-formats were definitely a thing.

Some of the other artists that had Sainsbury’s exclusives have 2 different colours for the same album but Parlophone seemed to restrict the Kylie ones massively.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 17th November 2023, 06:35 PM

The multi variants will help a but and probably secure it going top 40.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 18th November 2023, 08:19 PM

1000+ now sold on Amazon

Posted by: ___∆___ 19th November 2023, 09:24 AM

The black version has appeared on iMusic - a Danish company that ships to the UK, I’ll wait for it to appear on a UK site I think to be sure sales will be counted towards the UK charts.

Posted by: Dawid 19th November 2023, 10:36 AM

Ordered from Amazon smile.gif I love BL ❤️❤️😂

Posted by: Padamic Tension 19th November 2023, 11:20 AM

Golden discs are also stocking the vinyl which is great for me, while I'm buying it I'm not excited for this release as I don't enjoy the album that much so her debut so what I'm more excited for.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 23rd November 2023, 10:18 AM

I see Body Language is only 24.98 dollars on USA Amazon

Posted by: ___∆___ 23rd November 2023, 08:00 PM

So everyone that pre-ordered the black vinyl version has received an email to say it was listed in error and will be available after the initial limited edition red version has sold out - odd to not have them available at the same time but I guess it means they might be planning to keep it in print for a while on black vinyl?

Posted by: Padamic Tension 24th November 2023, 01:14 AM

That will also mean some split sales which will probably result in a lower chart position.

Posted by: -Jay- 25th January 2024, 06:50 PM

The vinyl has been pushed back to 8th March cry.gif

Posted by: Liam.k. 25th January 2024, 06:56 PM

Yeah I’ve just had an email saying mine would be delivered on 12th March.

Posted by: One_For_Sorrow 25th January 2024, 07:02 PM

Hopefully that means that the red and black versions will be dispatched at the same time and count in the same chart week.

Posted by: ___∆___ 25th January 2024, 08:05 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Jan 25 2024, 06:50 PM) *
The vinyl has been pushed back to 8th March cry.gif


I know we’re not chasing a chart peak or anything but Feb 23rd seemed to be a good date to release it as there seems to be hardly anything much of note apart from 2 or 3 out that week.

Friday 23rd February

Allie X - Girl With No Face
Amaranthe - The Catalyst
Ghetts - On Purpose With Purpose
I Don't Know How But They Found Me - Gloom Division
Leee John & Bill Sharpe - Intimate Glow
Liam Bailey - Zero Grace
Little Man Tate - Welcome To The Rest Of Your Life
MGMT - Loss Of Life
Nadine Shah - Filthy Underneath
Red Rum Club - Western Approaches
Rod Stewart with Jools Holland- Swing Fever
Rozalla - Turn On The Light [Monday 26th February]
The Snuts - Millennials
Suede - Bloodsports (10th Anniversary Edition)

Posted by: One_For_Sorrow 26th January 2024, 07:44 PM

I guess it’s too early to know what’s out March 8th.

Hopefully it can still get a new peak though.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 26th January 2024, 08:53 PM

I cant see it coming anywhere near its original peak let alone a new peak.

Posted by: One_For_Sorrow 26th January 2024, 09:02 PM

Fair enough. I’m guessing this is an album that’d be at the lower end of a lot of Kylie’s fans albums ranks?

Posted by: Padamic Tension 26th January 2024, 09:06 PM

Yes i think overall it generally ranks in the lower end among fans, not a fave of my own either.

Posted by: One_For_Sorrow 26th January 2024, 09:09 PM

Ah thanks. I’ve still got a few albums before it until I reach it in my album listen throughs. I’m curious to see what I’ll think of it.

I’m trying to steer clear of reading people’s thoughts on it in detail.

Posted by: ___∆___ 27th January 2024, 01:47 PM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Jan 26 2024, 08:53 PM) *
I cant see it coming anywhere near its original peak let alone a new peak.


Agree with this - it’s an album that I don’t want on vinyl but have bought for collection purposes.

The excitement about the release seems quite muted too, it’s a nice to have but won’t have people rushing out to snap up a copy.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 28th January 2024, 11:28 AM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Jan 27 2024, 01:47 PM) *
Agree with this - it’s an album that I don’t want on vinyl but have bought for collection purposes.

The excitement about the release seems quite muted too, it’s a nice to have but won’t have people rushing out to snap up a copy.

Me too, I'm buying out of loyalty rather than for the want of it.

Posted by: ___∆___ 28th February 2024, 06:20 PM

Not that it matters too much in the grand scheme of things as we’re not chasing a chart placing with this album but some fans are posting pictures of already having received the album, seems like the change of release date has caused some confusion - mess dry.gif

Posted by: Padamic Tension 28th February 2024, 06:52 PM

Hopefully its only a small few that have shipped early, as you said we are not chasing a chart position with this release but it would be nice for it to chart as high as it can without mess ups.

Posted by: Jessie Where 28th February 2024, 08:14 PM

Aside from the added bonus of it giving her extra weeks on the chart I genuinely don't care where it ends up tbh

Posted by: ___∆___ 28th February 2024, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Feb 28 2024, 08:14 PM) *
Aside from the added bonus of it giving her extra weeks on the chart I genuinely don't care where it ends up tbh


This tbh - the only re-release I was really invested in from a chart perspective was IP.

Hopefully BL does well and clocks up another Top 40 chart week but if it doesn’t then idc.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 28th February 2024, 09:11 PM

From all the different re releases Body Language is the one im the least invested in so far, id love to see it back in the top 40 but as others said if it doesnt happen it wont bother me that much.

Posted by: aeroco 29th February 2024, 10:08 AM

I never pre ordered so am going to wait for a reduction. I don’t mind paying more for limited edition vinyl, though I think it should always be heavyweight vinyl if they’re going to ask for over £30.

Apparently BL is gatefold, with a black sleeve and an insert. So I’ll definitely pick up a copy at some point, unless it sells out soon of course.

Posted by: Jessie Where 29th February 2024, 10:46 AM

From what I saw on the SayHey FB group it seemed to be only customers in Canada who ordered from Amazon receiving it early, so shouldn't affect anything in the UK?

Posted by: -Jay- 1st March 2024, 12:45 AM



It looks great, I'm glad that it's a gatefold!

Posted by: ___∆___ 1st March 2024, 12:20 PM

^^ Actually feels like some effort has been put into it which is surprising for a Parlophone re-issue.

Posted by: pippa 3rd March 2024, 05:08 PM

The new vinyl is almost upon is.
I think a Top 40 placement is on the horizon.

Posted by: ___∆___ 3rd March 2024, 05:17 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Mar 3 2024, 05:08 PM) *
The new vinyl is almost upon is.
I think a Top 40 placement is on the horizon.


I’m getting #34 vibes for this - but whenever it lands I’m not too fussed tbh.

Posted by: Dlo 3rd March 2024, 05:43 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Mar 3 2024, 06:08 PM) *
The new vinyl is almost upon is.
I think a Top 40 placement is on the horizon.


The one Kylie release that I have no interest in although slow are rbw are fantastic

Posted by: Padamic Tension 3rd March 2024, 06:33 PM

Ya I'm getting low top 40 vibes somewhere between 34 and 37.

Posted by: markivj 4th March 2024, 11:59 PM

I was talking to a friend (casual Kylie fan) and he asked me a question that I'm not sure I know the answer to. Has Kylie herself ever addressed the underperformance of Body Language given all the hype and expectations?

Posted by: Padamic Tension 5th March 2024, 12:45 AM

Not to my knowledge she hasnt, its strange as it was a fairly successful album it's just it underperformed on the back of the huge success of Fever and I think most of agree it was just the wrong direction after what we got with light years and fever it just wasn't what people expected or wanted.

Posted by: markivj 5th March 2024, 05:52 AM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Mar 4 2024, 04:45 PM) *
Not to my knowledge she hasnt, its strange as it was a fairly successful album it's just it underperformed on the back of the huge success of Fever and I think most of agree it was just the wrong direction after what we got with light years and fever it just wasn't what people expected or wanted.

I remember before the release of the album, she did talk about how diff it is to Fever, something along the lines of "and we needed to slow down after Fever". But I don't recall her talking about BL or KMO since release (she seems to retro every other album afaik).

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 5th March 2024, 07:13 AM

Body language is a great album, I just think it was probably the wrong album to release straight after Fever. Body language was a very successfull album but probably just underperformed due to how much of a bug album Fever was huns. Let's face it, not many albums could live up to Fever!

Also huns BL only had 3 singles, so it was a shorter campaign than most albums, they had the material to release a 4th single huns in my opinion. Still standing or secret, for example!

Also BL never had its own tour (show girl huns followed not long after) which would have bumped up sales, so no 4th single or a tour did hurt its long term sales. And don't forget Ultimate Kylie came out very quickly after Body Language, so there wasn't even any time for the BL album to breathe, so I think the album would have sold a little bit extra if Ult K didn't come out so quickly afterwards, if BL had its own tour and it had a 4th single huns.

Just my thoughts huns

Just Carol Honey ♥️

Posted by: aeroco 5th March 2024, 09:32 AM

Yes after BL underperformed and they’d released Chocolate they definitely decided to capitalise on her fame and bring out Ultimate Kylie instead. IBIY and GYU were much more like the Fever singles too. Much better financial return than releasing a 4th single off BL or releasing an extended version.

Of course, UK was viable because the Decon albums could be included. I bet Kylie/ Parlo wasn’t happy when the 1992 GH was re released with bonus mixes etc in 2002. Hence why she refused to let them use an image. They probably would have been planning UK being released at the end of 2005.

Though as we now know, the cancer diagnosis would have stopped that from happening.

Posted by: markivj 5th March 2024, 05:29 PM

QUOTE(JustCarolHoney @ Mar 4 2024, 11:13 PM) *
Body language is a great album, I just think it was probably the wrong album to release straight after Fever. Body language was a very successfull album but probably just underperformed due to how much of a bug album Fever was huns. Let's face it, not many albums could live up to Fever!

Also huns BL only had 3 singles, so it was a shorter campaign than most albums, they had the material to release a 4th single huns in my opinion. Still standing or secret, for example!

Also BL never had its own tour (show girl huns followed not long after) which would have bumped up sales, so no 4th single or a tour did hurt its long term sales. And don't forget Ultimate Kylie came out very quickly after Body Language, so there wasn't even any time for the BL album to breathe, so I think the album would have sold a little bit extra if Ult K didn't come out so quickly afterwards, if BL had its own tour and it had a 4th single huns.

Just my thoughts huns

Just Carol Honey ♥️

Thanks Carol honey. My friend's question wasn't so much a "Why BL didn't perform to expectations" but more of a "has Kylie herself addressed it".


Posted by: ___∆___ 5th March 2024, 05:39 PM

QUOTE(markivj @ Mar 5 2024, 05:52 AM) *
I remember before the release of the album, she did talk about how diff it is to Fever, something along the lines of "and we needed to slow down after Fever". But I don't recall her talking about BL or KMO since release (she seems to retro every other album afaik).


She seems very aware of what is deemed as failures and seems to steer clear of them - she done the same with IP, I think the lack of commercial and/or critical success for her work is something she takes really personally and she seems to think that they are universally disliked so never talks about them or revisits them to a great extent at her shows.

Posted by: Jessie Where 5th March 2024, 05:57 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Mar 5 2024, 05:39 PM) *
She seems very aware of what is deemed as failures and seems to steer clear of them - she done the same with IP, I think the lack of commercial and/or critical success for her work is something she takes really personally and she seems to think that they are universally disliked so never talks about them or revisits them to a great extent at her shows.


I think the fact she included both 'Dreams' and 'Cowboy Style' at Homecoming shows she must have some love for IP and be aware there's love for it out there too.

I think more than anything, for years now Kylie's been sadly playing it ultra safe with her tour set list choices because she needs that applause and doesn't want to risk not getting it. Similar reasons to why she quickly expunged 'Breathe' from the Golden tour. sad.gif

Posted by: markivj 5th March 2024, 07:21 PM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Mar 5 2024, 09:39 AM) *
She seems very aware of what is deemed as failures and seems to steer clear of them - she done the same with IP, I think the lack of commercial and/or critical success for her work is something she takes really personally and she seems to think that they are universally disliked so never talks about them or revisits them to a great extent at her shows.

I've noticed. At least IP gave her some kind of critical accliam and she sees it as a growing step...but other than Slow and perhaps Chocolate, she seems to forget the BL era. She NEVER talks about the KMO era or performs anything from it too, right? LOL! Although in all fairness, whilst there were some good songs on KMO, that whole Roc Nation era was a screw-up

Posted by: Padamic Tension 7th March 2024, 06:18 PM

I think Kylie is very aware of the love that is out there for IP among the fanbase which is why she touches on the album every so often, its also the album she needed to make to get to the stage that followed. With Body Language and Kiss me Once she does seem to have distanced herself from the albums and of of course lets get to it is another but at least with body language slow does get love from her representing the BL era where with LGTI and KMO she really doesnt revisit them at all.

Posted by: ___∆___ 7th March 2024, 09:15 PM

The vinyl is finally released tomorrow - give BL some love with an extra stream or two.

Posted by: Jessie Where 7th March 2024, 09:40 PM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Mar 7 2024, 06:18 PM) *
I think Kylie is very aware of the love that is out there for IP among the fanbase which is why she touches on the album every so often, its also the album she needed to make to get to the stage that followed. With Body Language and Kiss me Once she does seem to have distanced herself from the albums and of of course lets get to it is another but at least with body language slow does get love from her representing the BL era where with LGTI and KMO she really doesnt revisit them at all.


A few months ago she was asked to recite her albums backwards in order and when it came to Let's Get To It she said "what was that one again?" - she's literally forgotten it exists!

Posted by: Padamic Tension 7th March 2024, 09:54 PM

Yes i remember that video and i was like yes Kylie has definitely moved on from that album, which is a shame really as although it is my least fave pwl album it does have some good tracks on it.

Posted by: -Jay- 8th March 2024, 03:48 AM

Amazon has not been my friend recently, no dispatch for Body Language yet sleep.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th March 2024, 04:06 PM

Any last minute predictions of where this will end up?

Amazon seem to have oversold and are now saying delivery in 5-8 days, HMV currently have just over 100 in stock online so it appears to have sold decently.

I still think it’s looking at around 35-40, although the reaction to people posting images of their copies and the fact it’s a gatefold etc., I think will have encouraged some last minute sales from those that were on the fence about getting a copy.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 8th March 2024, 04:33 PM

I think maybe higher?

Is in shops to buy? Anyone seen in HMV?

Will it get many streams ?

Posted by: Jessie Where 8th March 2024, 04:48 PM

#32!

But it's anyone's guess really

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th March 2024, 04:53 PM

QUOTE(SmileyKylie @ Mar 8 2024, 04:33 PM) *
I think maybe higher?

Is in shops to buy? Anyone seen in HMV?

Will it get many streams ?


It’s definitely in HMV stores - they posted the below earlier.

Can’t imagine it will get anymore than a handful of streaming sales at best?

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Posted by: SmileyKylie 8th March 2024, 04:55 PM

I think it could get a few HMV sales

Maybe 3k pre-orders, 5 downloads, 750 sales in shops and 20 streaming sales? 3775? lol

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th March 2024, 04:59 PM

QUOTE(SmileyKylie @ Mar 8 2024, 04:55 PM) *
I think it could get a few HMV sales

Maybe 3k pre-orders, 5 downloads, 750 sales in shops and 20 streaming sales? 3775? lol


If you’re correct that would place it at around 26-27 based on last weeks album chart sales.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 8th March 2024, 05:15 PM

Lets hope more! smile.gif

i mean it must have sold quite well on her Store, Amazon and HMV.

They just sent an email out!

Posted by: ___∆___ 8th March 2024, 07:57 PM

Store email will help snatch a few more sales

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Posted by: Padamic Tension 8th March 2024, 10:46 PM

I wish it was different but i feel zero excitement for this release at all

Posted by: -Jay- 9th March 2024, 03:52 AM

Well I’m excited, it’s another addition to her album catalogue on vinyl, which fans have wanted for years. The pressing looks stunning too!

Posted by: Padamic Tension 9th March 2024, 11:17 AM

I love seeing the availability of Kylies catalogue on vinyl increasing and am all for it it's just with this one I wish I liked the music more but I'm happy to have the vinyl in my collection.

Posted by: ___∆___ 9th March 2024, 11:20 AM

I painfully gave the entire album a stream to help with my vinyl purchase this week - I keep think one day I’ll appreciate the album more but it hasn’t happened yet laugh.gif

That beating said the re-issue is a beauty and actually feels as if some effort has been put into it versus other Parlophone re-issues.

Posted by: pippa 9th March 2024, 11:22 PM

Always a hard album to listen to in its entirety and as stunning as the vinyl version is I won't worry about it getting damaged due to overplay.

Posted by: -Jay- 10th March 2024, 03:01 AM

Y’all really said “Body Language? More like Shoddy Languish”

Posted by: Padamic Tension 10th March 2024, 11:36 AM

Giving you up,white diamond and I believe you had the foundations of an excellent follow up to fever if she had taken that route as the follow up to fever and I really feel it could have another huge era if it had gone that way but there is no rewriting history plus kylie can be given credit for not playing it safe (even though I wish she did).
While body language is a weak album it did give us kylies last number 1 single so il give it credit for that.

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th March 2024, 08:08 PM

Received my vinyl and it immediately starts skipping! sad.gif Apparently this has been an issue for a few people.

Not what Kylie meant when she sings "skip a beat and move with my body".

Posted by: Padamic Tension 11th March 2024, 08:57 PM

No but maybe its the labels way of saying we know most of you are skipping a good bit of this album so we will help you along ohmy.gif

Posted by: markivj 11th March 2024, 09:00 PM

#11 on Monday's middies. So top 40 guaranteed? Still can't believe it debuted only at 6 given the money cant buy concert and all the Fever success. Understand the sound was underwhelming, blah blah but I would've thought the fanbase alone would've at least sent it top 3.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 11th March 2024, 09:01 PM

Sales were so high back then though and i cant remember of the top of my head but it was a competitive week at the time.

Posted by: Liam.k. 11th March 2024, 09:15 PM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Mar 11 2024, 08:57 PM) *
No but maybe its the labels way of saying we know most of you are skipping a good bit of this album so we will help you along ohmy.gif

!! laugh.gif

I've cleaned it a few times and it's improved a lot, so might just be fingerprints rather than scratches on the vinyl.

The whole packaging is a beauty. I love the inner gatefold and the red blood vinyl! The album cover is underrated too, I think it's up there with 'Light Years' and 'Fever'!

QUOTE(markivj @ Mar 11 2024, 09:00 PM) *
#11 on Monday's middies. So top 40 guaranteed? Still can't believe it debuted only at 6 given the money cant buy concert and all the Fever success. Understand the sound was underwhelming, blah blah but I would've thought the fanbase alone would've at least sent it top 3.

It would have been #3 if released a week earlier, assuming it sold the same amount of course. Still, those sales were half that of 'Fever' (69k vs. 139k) and I think all involved would have expected more.

Posted by: -Jay- 11th March 2024, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(markivj @ Mar 11 2024, 09:00 PM) *
#11 on Monday's middies. So top 40 guaranteed? Still can't believe it debuted only at 6 given the money cant buy concert and all the Fever success. Understand the sound was underwhelming, blah blah but I would've thought the fanbase alone would've at least sent it top 3.

It was a very competitive week, the album chart would start to become very busy with huge sales by mid November time (which is when it was released). So #6 could probably be viewed as being a decent outcome for Body Language. Britney Spears - In the Zone only entered at #14, and Ronan Keating was in at #21 despite his previous two solo albums making #1!

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Posted by: pippa 12th March 2024, 01:32 AM

I was expecting Top 5 for Body Language today leaving that Number 11 position disappointing.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th March 2024, 10:36 AM

QUOTE(pippa @ Mar 12 2024, 01:32 AM) *
I was expecting Top 5 for Body Language today leaving that Number 11 position disappointing.


Thinking about it it’s actually doing well for a £35 vinyl release with no new content, Girls Aloud are at #10 and have multiple formats, digital release and bonus content.

Posted by: Liam.k. 15th March 2024, 06:24 PM

Re-enters at #34!

QUOTE
Girls Aloud’s second studio album, What Will The Neighbours Say?, reached No.6 in 2004, and re-enters at No.35 (2,925 sales) after being released in a number of new editions, while Kylie Minogue’s ninth studio album, Body Language – No.6 in 2003 – re-enters at No.34 (2,943 sales) after being released on vinyl for the first time. Cumulative sales: What Will The Neighbours Say? – 618,569, and Body Language – 407,731.

Posted by: JustCarolHoney 15th March 2024, 06:29 PM

Oh wow hun, number 34 is good for such a price tag on one of Kylies least liked albums by the fans. Plus it has 1 format as well. I was expecting it to possibly miss out on the top 40 if I am honest.

Also, no new content either huns.

Just Carol Honey ♥️

Posted by: Padamic Tension 15th March 2024, 06:35 PM

It done really well to be as high as 34, I was convinced it wouldn't be top 50 today.

Posted by: ThePensmith 17th March 2024, 09:44 PM

Lovely to see it return to the top 40 👏🏻

Meanwhile, I've gone to play my copy today and it would appear I've wound up with a massively faulty one, and I'm not the only one. I've seen so many people on X and Popjustice in the last week saying the same thing and having the same problem I am.

It's less "Skip a beat and move with my body" and more "Skip all through the bloody song and accumulate a massive quantity of dust on my stylus".

I've cleaned the vinyl about three times now and the same thing is still happening. I'm so disappointed because I've been looking forward to this release for ages. I never had this problem with the Fever or Impossible Princess reissues!

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th March 2024, 09:52 PM

Yeah it seems this has been a big problem for lots of people. Thankfully mine just took a few cleans to get rid of the skips but I know it’s not been as simple as that for many.

Posted by: ThePensmith 17th March 2024, 10:21 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Mar 17 2024, 09:52 PM) *
Yeah it seems this has been a big problem for lots of people. Thankfully mine just took a few cleans to get rid of the skips but I know it’s not been as simple as that for many.


Looks like I'm contacting HMV to request a refund in the morning then sad.gif

Just hope they've got a standard black vinyl coming that's free of this aggro.

Posted by: Jessie Where 17th March 2024, 11:17 PM

QUOTE(ThePensmith @ Mar 17 2024, 09:44 PM) *
It's less "Skip a beat and move with my body" and more "Skip all through the bloody song and accumulate a massive quantity of dust on my stylus".


I know it's a bad situation and I'm sorry to hear, but this really made me laugh laugh.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ 18th March 2024, 12:31 AM

I’ve seen a few people on SH FB mention it skipping too nocheer.gif

It really bothers me that vinyl pressing nowadays seems quite sloppy with no QC checks, when they are charging premiums for vinyl they really should be getting it right - also it’s not great for people starting out collecting vinyl and may put them off the format.

Posted by: pippa 18th March 2024, 12:54 AM

It has long been an issue with vinyls which was one of the original reasons for it's decline.

Posted by: ThePensmith 18th March 2024, 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Mar 17 2024, 11:17 PM) *
I know it's a bad situation and I'm sorry to hear, but this really made me laugh laugh.gif


That was the idea laugh.gif You've gotta laugh at the situation haven't you?

I think I'll just return it and get a refund. I've got no guarantee that any replacement won't do the same thing, and then I'd be lumbered with a vinyl with no value at all. Just hope they give us a standard black vinyl later down the line.

Posted by: aeroco 18th March 2024, 08:03 PM

Purchased just before the Amazon deal ended, phew. It jumped up during the deal period from 50 to 200+ monthly sales! So about 150 new sales, they must be happy or they’d have kept the deal going. Better not skip a bloody beat!!!!!

Oh and Kylie Christmas snatched too for less than £9.

(Body Language vinyl arrived it’s gorgeous…seems like heavyweight vinyl too? Wasn’t expecting that at all)

Posted by: -Jay- 22nd March 2024, 07:20 PM

I listened to my copy of the Body Language vinyl, earlier today!

I have a bad habit of buying vinyl and then not actually getting around to playing them (more so older albums, rather than new ones)! However, the discussions about faulty copies made me feel like I ought to listen to it, to make sure that mine was okay. Fortunately my copy has no problems at all which is a relief; I hope others who had skipping copies are able to replace them with ones that play fine. cry.gif

So, Body Language... I haven't listened to it in full in years. I truly wouldn't be surprised if the last time I played it from start to finish was actually in 2004! laugh.gif I know I listened to it a fair few times in 2003/4 though. Since then, I think it's only been a case of hearing songs in isolation if they came up during an iTunes shuffle.

Looking at the track list today, there were many songs that I couldn't remember how they went purely based on title. So I was curious to find out if I did remember the songs when playing them, and to see how I feel about them now.

I guess those 2003/4 listens dug deep into my brain, because I did remember hooks from most of the tracks after all.

I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by the album. I've noticed a lot of fans aren't keen on it, so reading these assessments probably had an effect on me in feeling like it wasn't an album to bother revisiting, over the years. However there's some good stuff to be found on there though!

I'm not going to say the album is packed full of career highlights, and yes the sound was an unexpected pivot following on from Fever. But putting aside expectations from two decades ago, I think it stands nicely as a perfectly enjoyable and listenable album, and has a unique vibe to it amongst her back catalogue. I mean, it would surely get a bit boring if every album was more of the same.

I think there was only three songs I'd probably not be in a rush to return to. Those being 'I Feel for You' (quirky, but with a grating sound to it), 'Someday' (I felt like this track dragged) and 'After Dark' (decent, but surely in a B Side way, not album closer).

Otherwise I had no real problems with any of the other album tracks, I think they vary from ok to great. 'Loving Days' in particular was a lovely surprise - this was actually one of the few tracks I couldn't recall at all even while listening to it, so I'm glad it's something of a discovery for me and I'll have to pay more attention to it from now on.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 27th March 2024, 12:33 AM

Im assuming body language didnt manage to stay top 200 last week??

Posted by: aeroco 27th March 2024, 10:38 AM

Very doubtful as it might have sold another 200-300 vinyl but think at least a 1000 sales is required to make the top 200.

Posted by: ___∆___ 29th March 2024, 08:41 PM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Mar 27 2024, 12:33 AM) *
Im assuming body language didnt manage to stay top 200 last week??


Seems it was very much a one week wonder - it didn’t manage a 2nd week in the vinyl, physical and sales charts.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 30th March 2024, 07:28 AM

Body Language vinyl £22 on Amazon right now!

Posted by: -Jay- 30th March 2024, 01:57 PM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Mar 27 2024, 12:33 AM) *
Im assuming body language didnt manage to stay top 200 last week??

You can assume this for pretty much any reissue that doesn’t make it into the Top 5, at least. And even then, they often leave the Top 200. Just think to yourself… “is it likely that this album has managed to sell a further 1,100 copies to stay in the chart?” - and the answer would usually be “very unlikely” kink.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ 30th March 2024, 04:38 PM

^^ I know it’s money for old rope, but just hope that Parlophone think it’s been a good investment re-issuing the vinyl, especially as the BL release felt more premium than KC.

Hopefully we get X at some stage - not my favourite album but the artwork would look amazing on vinyl.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 30th March 2024, 08:44 PM

Hopefully x will come on vinyl and I do think it will it's just more how long we will have to wait for it.

Posted by: Jessie Where 1st April 2024, 05:36 AM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Mar 30 2024, 09:44 PM) *
Hopefully x will come on vinyl and I do think it will it's just more how long we will have to wait for it.


Early 2028?

Posted by: ___∆___ 1st April 2024, 12:52 PM

QUOTE(Jessie Where @ Apr 1 2024, 06:36 AM) *
Early 2028?


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The fact they’ll make us wait - just give us the re-issues at 6 month intervals, no need to wait for an ‘anniversary’

Posted by: Padamic Tension 1st April 2024, 01:23 PM

They don't need to wait for anniversaries as dans just want them although if a tension re release is coming and a new album as reported financially fir fans tge x vinyl ideally would come 6 months after all that.
I think fans in general would be more excited for an x vinyl than body language received.

Posted by: aeroco 10th April 2024, 10:03 AM

Rumours back again of the black vinyl. Believe it when I see it!

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th April 2024, 12:40 PM

QUOTE(aeroco @ Apr 10 2024, 11:03 AM) *
Rumours back again of the black vinyl. Believe it when I see it!


Surprised they are bothering if it does happen - it’s not like it’s an album that the GP would be seeking?

Posted by: aeroco 10th April 2024, 02:52 PM

Agree makes no sense…only would have done if it had been a bundle with the red blooded one.

Fever made sense because of its stature, it’s good they have the black one in general sale now.

Posted by: ___∆___ 10th April 2024, 03:22 PM

^^ Maybe they have been pleased with how ‘Fever’ has been selling and are thinking demand will be there for BL, I think they’ll be disappointed if that’s the case kink.gif

I buy every variant and have done for years but if a black one is released I’ll literally wait until I can pick it up for £10.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 10th April 2024, 05:32 PM

I'd have no interest myself, one vinyl of this album is enough for me.

Posted by: ___∆___ 11th April 2024, 07:24 PM

QUOTE(Padamic Tension @ Apr 10 2024, 06:32 PM) *
I'd have no interest myself, one vinyl of this album is enough for me.


Me too but it’s one of her album that I have the most copies of drama.gif

It was released on so many different variations at the time on CD and cassette in places like Taiwan, Japan, Korea, USA etc., that I’m overrun with BL! laugh.gif

Posted by: Padamic Tension 11th April 2024, 11:25 PM

As i have said a few times before you most work so hard to ensure you have all different formats and not to mention the cost of it.
For years i used to think i had a great Kylie collection and then i read posts from people like yourself and realise mine is very small in comparison.

Posted by: aeroco 12th April 2024, 08:35 AM

Dua Lipa referencing Slow (as well as Les Folies/ All the Lovers/ Chocolate) on new video Illusion.

Slow already added 12,000 views, usually 5000 a day. Hopefully the boost continues.

Posted by: Jessie Where 12th April 2024, 09:54 AM

Maybe it can help push 'Slow' further towards silver?

(I have no idea how far it is from reaching it)

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th April 2024, 10:01 AM

Come on Dua help ‘Slow’ snatch that silver - its a travesty that after all these years it still hasn’t managed to cross the line! drama.gif

Posted by: -Jay- 12th April 2024, 12:05 PM

Silver is the very least that Slow deserves, it's crazy that it's not achieved it after 20 years. cry.gif It feels like such a classic in her discography that to be uncertified just seems very odd.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th April 2024, 12:12 PM

^^ It’s frustrating especially as she still performs it and it always seems well received! Hopefully with the BL reissue and Dua mention it might drag itself towards silver.

Posted by: aeroco 12th April 2024, 12:45 PM

It must be close to silver.

Problem is it has never picked up in the same way the Fever singles and Spinning Around have on YouTube and Spotify.

Makes no sense why it hasn’t…yes it’s original sales seemed low but 2003/4/5 were terrible years for physical cd single sales and I don’t even think mp3 was an option in 2003 and the charts certainly didn’t count them until 2005.




Posted by: Jessie Where 12th April 2024, 01:00 PM

Well the last official total we got was 154,000 in July 2019. It must surely be knocking on the door at this point?

Posted by: -Jay- 12th April 2024, 01:12 PM

^ I really hope so!

154,431 sales, on what I assume was Friday 26th July 2019... if it was on 199,999 sales today, 246 weeks later, that would work out at about 185 sales a week on average. Rather low! sad.gif

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th April 2024, 01:43 PM

Didn’t realize it was that low in 2019 drama.gif Sales were really in the pits when it was released and seemingly the streaming era has done hardly anything for it even with a new GH being released cry.gif

#JusticeForSlow

Posted by: Jessie Where 12th April 2024, 03:26 PM

I remember it didn't even sell 100k in its initial run sad.gif

Posted by: Red Blooded Man 12th April 2024, 06:22 PM

To be honest, when "Slow" was released, it divided fans as much as when 2H was released so it might put off some casual fans.

Speaking of "Slow", Dua Lipa released her new video and it's basically a tribute to "Slow" and ATL.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 12th April 2024, 06:32 PM

Slow has been given plenty of exposure from kylie over the years but it never really helped sales, hopefully it can make silver.
Incredible that dancing has sold more which only made low top 40 but I know it's a different era in the music industry.

Posted by: SmileyKylie 13th April 2024, 02:52 PM

Vinyl down to £28 on Amazon
think i will a little longer for a price drop

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th April 2024, 04:47 PM

^^ Pretty sure with ‘Fever’ it took a year or so to reach the £20 mark (it was on offer recently for £11), BL might start to fall in price more quickly though as I can’t imagine there being any demand for it outside of week 1.

Posted by: Liam.k. 13th April 2024, 06:26 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Apr 12 2024, 02:12 PM) *
^ I really hope so!

154,431 sales, on what I assume was Friday 26th July 2019... if it was on 199,999 sales today, 246 weeks later, that would work out at about 185 sales a week on average. Rather low! sad.gif

I don't think it can be far away from Silver now. It placed just behind 'I Believe in You' on Kylie's top streamed songs list revealed last year and that was averaging 151 sales a week between the updates we received for it in 2019 and 2020. It's the first thing I look for when the BPI update their certifications each week! laugh.gif

When you look at the other #1 singles that haven't been certified or have only been certified in recent years, 'Slow' definitely feels like an outlier. Kylie has shown a lot of love for it over the years and it doesn't seem like it's completely disappeared from public consciousness (but maybe I'm showing a bias there).

Posted by: Liam.k. 13th April 2024, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(-Jay- @ Mar 22 2024, 08:20 PM) *
I listened to my copy of the Body Language vinyl, earlier today!

I have a bad habit of buying vinyl and then not actually getting around to playing them (more so older albums, rather than new ones)! However, the discussions about faulty copies made me feel like I ought to listen to it, to make sure that mine was okay. Fortunately my copy has no problems at all which is a relief; I hope others who had skipping copies are able to replace them with ones that play fine. cry.gif

So, Body Language... I haven't listened to it in full in years. I truly wouldn't be surprised if the last time I played it from start to finish was actually in 2004! laugh.gif I know I listened to it a fair few times in 2003/4 though. Since then, I think it's only been a case of hearing songs in isolation if they came up during an iTunes shuffle.

Looking at the track list today, there were many songs that I couldn't remember how they went purely based on title. So I was curious to find out if I did remember the songs when playing them, and to see how I feel about them now.

I guess those 2003/4 listens dug deep into my brain, because I did remember hooks from most of the tracks after all.

I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised by the album. I've noticed a lot of fans aren't keen on it, so reading these assessments probably had an effect on me in feeling like it wasn't an album to bother revisiting, over the years. However there's some good stuff to be found on there though!

I'm not going to say the album is packed full of career highlights, and yes the sound was an unexpected pivot following on from Fever. But putting aside expectations from two decades ago, I think it stands nicely as a perfectly enjoyable and listenable album, and has a unique vibe to it amongst her back catalogue. I mean, it would surely get a bit boring if every album was more of the same.

I think there was only three songs I'd probably not be in a rush to return to. Those being 'I Feel for You' (quirky, but with a grating sound to it), 'Someday' (I felt like this track dragged) and 'After Dark' (decent, but surely in a B Side way, not album closer).

Otherwise I had no real problems with any of the other album tracks, I think they vary from ok to great. 'Loving Days' in particular was a lovely surprise - this was actually one of the few tracks I couldn't recall at all even while listening to it, so I'm glad it's something of a discovery for me and I'll have to pay more attention to it from now on.

Been meaning to respond to this for ages - I pretty much agree with everything you've said here! I too am guilty of buying vinyl of older albums and not listening to them for ages! laugh.gif The album isn't ever going to be one of Kylie's top tier albums but there's a lot to love here and I have the same three songs as you that I'd consider weaker than the rest. 'After Dark' is such an odd choice for album closer, it just leaves me thinking "is that really the end?". I like the idea of having 'Slo Motion' closing the album after having 'Slow' open it, or even have 'On the Up' as a fun, 'Fever'-esque moment to complete the album.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 13th April 2024, 06:52 PM

Slow definitely feels like an outlier and in many ways i am surprised by how poor it has sold but maybe its because i class it much bigger in my head due to it been Kylies last number 1 single. I just think with it appearing on a few performances and also the SBIT release its picking up so little sales and it does seem to be a song that is well liked generally speaking.

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th April 2024, 07:32 PM

I always say it ‘After Dark’ feels like a IP track - I LOVE it but agree it doesn’t fit the album especially as a closer.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 13th April 2024, 07:52 PM

I would agree about after dark would feel more at home on IP and it definitely didnt work as a closer for the album either. Its also a pitty they didnt have a couple of tracks on the lines of slow on the album, i think the main problem i have with body language is many of the songs lack heir own identity and it all mushes into one when listening to it not that i listen to the album much since its release.

Posted by: Liam.k. 13th April 2024, 09:22 PM

I don’t think it sounds like an Impossible Princess song either. It’s very B-side material and too under baked to have its own identity to a certain album. Especially disappointing knowing it’s a Cathy Dennis co-write.

Posted by: Padamic Tension 14th April 2024, 09:35 AM

I'd like to see Cathy and kylie team up again to see what they come up.

Posted by: -Jay- 14th April 2024, 10:05 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Apr 13 2024, 07:52 PM) *
Been meaning to respond to this for ages - I pretty much agree with everything you've said here! I too am guilty of buying vinyl of older albums and not listening to them for ages! laugh.gif The album isn't ever going to be one of Kylie's top tier albums but there's a lot to love here and I have the same three songs as you that I'd consider weaker than the rest. 'After Dark' is such an odd choice for album closer, it just leaves me thinking "is that really the end?". I like the idea of having 'Slo Motion' closing the album after having 'Slow' open it, or even have 'On the Up' as a fun, 'Fever'-esque moment to complete the album.

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Funnily enough I only heard 'On the Up' for the first time ever on the same day that I listened to the Body Language vinyl, because a friend mentioned it to me. What a bop! For me that song sounds like it could have suited being "1st single from Fever: Deluxe Reissue" - if she'd actually promoted a re-release with a new song. Although I know this belongs to early Body Language sessions, it definitely has that Fever DNA to it.

I'm not familiar with the bonus tracks Cruise Control, You Make Me Feel & Slo Motion, I'll have to check those out!

Posted by: Padamic Tension 14th April 2024, 01:34 PM

Like a few kylie albums songs were left off that were actually better than songs on the album. On the up is one of those songs and while it doesn't fit the album I would have liked more of that sound rather than what we got. A few months back I was revisiting body language and kiss me once to try and give them more of a chance and my overall opinion didn't change in that both are her weakest albums but I think I slightly prefer kiss me once now than body language which I never thought I'd say as I always struggled to like kiss me once.
Body language killed off the massive momentum she had built up to that point which was disappointing and kiss me once was the album I felt we saw kylie struggling to figure out where kylie wanted to be in the market.

Posted by: ___∆___ 15th April 2024, 01:48 PM

From SH FB -

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For those awaiting the black body language vinyl from Warner aus (Inc. myself) latest update from them is release “some point mid May”

Posted by: ___∆___ 16th April 2024, 10:57 AM

Now available to order in the UK and is released on Friday!

https://stripjointglasgow.co.uk/product/kylie-minogue-body-language-20th-anniversary-black-vinyl/

Picture from SH -

https://ibb.co/LNHkrmv

Posted by: -Jay- 16th April 2024, 11:13 AM

I do really like the red vinyl, but standard black suits the overall aesthetic well. I don't think I need to buy another copy though. kink.gif

Posted by: Jessie Where 16th April 2024, 11:52 AM

I still say they shiuld've done an Othello vinyl like this:


Posted by: ___∆___ 16th April 2024, 12:20 PM

I gave in and bought it despite saying I was going to wait as hardly anywhere seems to be selling it.

Agree that it should have been a black/white coloured disc, the whole 2 variants being released weeks apart is such an odd strategy especially as BL is not a highly sought after album and apparently the black vinyl was ready to go the same time as the red version but they told retailers to wait.

Posted by: aeroco 16th April 2024, 04:06 PM

Wonder if it’s gatefold too?

Posted by: Liam.k. 16th April 2024, 04:29 PM

QUOTE(aeroco @ Apr 16 2024, 05:06 PM) *
Wonder if it’s gatefold too?

It is! You can just about make it out in the photo on the previous page.

I agree that the black vinyl suits the aesthetic more than the blood red version, but a black and white marble pattern would be my pick!

Posted by: aeroco 16th April 2024, 07:30 PM

Ahh yes! Thank you.

I think I prefer the blood red vinyl, I’m impressed by its quality but the black looks cool.

Posted by: pippa 16th April 2024, 11:21 PM

The black version is more suited to the artwork theme of the album.

Posted by: Liam.k. 18th April 2024, 05:00 PM

Looks like there’s a CD reissue too! Copyright says 2024:


Posted by: ___∆___ 18th April 2024, 06:43 PM

^^ I managed to grab one in Oxford St after it was mentioned on SH a while back - no idea why Parlophone just quietly re-issued these along with the vinyl but didn’t advertise it at all! They could have easily shifted at least 500+ on a pre-order!

Posted by: aeroco 18th April 2024, 09:24 PM

Strange they could have tied this in all together and secured a better chart position.

What demand could there be for a Body Language CD…or any back catalogue CD not just Kylie? Though I suppose if there’s hardly any stock left at all it makes some sense….why just Body Language?

Remember the Parlophone Albums Box Light Years to Aphrodite? That was a good release and I don’t recall paying much for it. 13 years ago they were all but giving up on back catalogue CD.

Posted by: ___∆___ 19th April 2024, 08:10 AM

Of all the albums they could do it for it seems so strange they’ve done it for BL - I mean ‘Fever’ surely would have benefited more from multiple vinyl variants and CD re-issue.

I’m pleased they done a CD issue for BL but it would’ve been nice for them to actually tell people it’s available laugh.gif

Posted by: Jessie Where 19th April 2024, 09:12 AM

Maybe they have surplus stock from years ago they wanna get rid of, and have just packaged them in a new cardboard sleeve to give the impression it's new?

Posted by: aeroco 19th April 2024, 12:16 PM

Suppose the print on the CD would tell us?

Re Fever, it has had a few vinyl reissues hasn’t it….wasn’t there also a red, silver and two white vinyl released separately?

Not sure why they ever went with red but guess that’s very rare. Wonder if they’re all gatefold and heavyweight?

Posted by: ___∆___ 19th April 2024, 08:57 PM

The CD is also 2024, so released right tie in with the vinyl issue.

As for Fever not all are gatefold - Black Vinyl (Gatefold Sleeve), White Vinyl (With Print), Silver Vinyl (Gatefold), Red Vinyl, White Vinyl (Sainsbury’s Exclusive / Gatefold).

Posted by: aeroco 19th April 2024, 09:18 PM

^ Thank you

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