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Posted by: Jonjo 30th April 2018, 02:42 PM

'13 Reasons Why' facebook has teased a video with the tag line "The story is developing"

I wonder how much longer we have to wait Really excited and intrigued to see where the 2nd season takes us!

Posted by: UltraReputation 30th April 2018, 02:42 PM

Yasss I'm ready

Surprise drop this Friday plz x

Posted by: Dexton 30th April 2018, 02:44 PM

I wasn’t a big fan of this but I’ll probably still watch season 2 Hopefully it doesn’t come out this Friday though because I won’t be able to watch until Tuesday

Posted by: Liаm 30th April 2018, 03:35 PM

I'd rather this didn't come out til like end of May because of dissertation and exams But I'm hyped to see where it goes

Posted by: Bitch 30th April 2018, 05:13 PM

Bitch make it end of june then, I need to pass too

Posted by: UltraReputation 30th April 2018, 05:18 PM

my exams are end of June so the earlier the better for me

Posted by: Lukuzz 30th April 2018, 05:44 PM

I need this ASAP!

Posted by: Jonjo 30th April 2018, 10:24 PM

18th May!

Posted by: Liаm 30th April 2018, 10:39 PM

I love that as a theme! I'm thinking unless that's just a red herring or style of the trailer rather than anything about the "theme", instead of there being tapes they will have loads of incriminating Polaroids that uncover secrets which form some overarching mystery or something, where they all come together into it like the tapes.

3 days before my first exam though ffs D:

Posted by: UltraReputation 30th April 2018, 10:43 PM

Yasssss! So ready and hyped 😍

Posted by: Theo. 30th April 2018, 11:01 PM

So soon!! Can't wait for this!

Posted by: Jack 1st May 2018, 05:29 AM

The first season was my favourite show last year so I’m really excited to see where this goes, so hyped that it is so soon and we don’t have to wait forever for it!

Posted by: lewistgreen 2nd May 2018, 09:37 AM

Central theme for the series is Jessica dealing with the sexual assualt story that started in the previous season and also Tyler getting caught up in gun culture. There will be no further suicide stories.

Posted by: Theo. 8th May 2018, 03:28 PM

Full trailer:

Posted by: Klaus 8th May 2018, 06:08 PM

Really don’t think this is going to work but I’d love to be proved wrong! I feel it going the same way as Broadchurch Series 2 (strong but nowhere near the strength of the first series).

Posted by: Dexton 14th May 2018, 01:24 PM

Soundtrack
Selena Gomez - "Back To You"
Billie Eilish & Khalid - "lovely"
OneRepublic - "Start Again" (feat. Logic)
YUNGBLUD - "Falling Skies" (feat. Charlotte Lawrence)
Lord Huron - "The Night We Met" (feat. Phoebe Bridgers)
Parade of Lights - "Tangled Up"
Colouring - "Time"
Leon Else - "My Kind Of Love"
HAERTS - "Your Love"
New Order - "Love Vigilantes"
Echo & The Bunnymen - "The Killing Moon"
Human Touch - "Promise Not To Fall"
Years & Years - "Sanctify"
YUNGBLUD - "Tin Pan Boy"
Orchestral Manoeuvres In the Dark - "Souvenir"
Tears for Fears - "Watch Me Bleed"
Siouxsie & The Banshees - "Cities In Dust"
Gus Dapperton - "Of Lacking Spectacle"
Telekinesis - "Falling (In Dreams)"
The Alarm - "Strength"

Surprised to see Lovely and Sanctify there, I haven't heard the Selena single yet though but I am looking forward to OneRepublic x Logic.

Posted by: Klaus 18th May 2018, 12:15 PM

Out today! Seen something about it failing to please critics.

No doubt all the spoilers will be plastered everywhere by 3pm today because of course everyone should have binged it the minute it was released 🙃🙃🙃

Posted by: Liаm 18th May 2018, 01:27 PM

I'm muting it on Twitter bc I'm not gonna be able to watch for like a week and a half

Posted by: UltraReputation 19th May 2018, 06:05 PM

I've just finished watching it and even tho the first season was slightly better, this was still fantastic! I'll properly review later x

Posted by: Bitch 19th May 2018, 09:19 PM

Kate Walsh is such an amazing actress

Posted by: UltraReputation 20th May 2018, 02:25 AM

Yeah this was a really really strong series and I legit haven't stopped thinking about it since finishing it earlier

I'm just gonna spoiler everything cos I'll probs have mini-spoilers throughout this and major spoilers for the end
(and acc there's major spoilers for the whole series below so yh I wouldn't read till you finish it all x)

The acting is fab, so with Tim stanning Kate Walsh above. She's even better this series and I really hope she can get some major awards attention. I changed my mind on so many of the characters during the 2nd series.
- Courtney's suddenly gone from the worst of the worst to actually being pretty fab. She slayed during her trial in like the 2nd episode and then barely popped up throughout the rest of the series bar like 1 minute group scenes so that probs helped as well I also really liked Ryan from the ones I didn't stan in the 1st series but the others one I disliked stayed that way.
- I think they did a good job with Hannah as with the trial they were obvious going to have to show us the other viewpoints towards Hannah tho I did feel the she joined in the bullying at her old school plotline was a bit too far and I'm glad that there wasn't really a big deal made out of that. I'm not sure if Hannah as a ghost completely worked for me (I really liked the idea sometimes but other times I would just get bored) but it was better than not having her at all and Katherine was fab again
- I was rly stanning Clay & Skye last season but I'm so glad that they split up by like the 3rd episode. I didn't like their relationship at all and found it far too annoying but I really liked how they left it when they met at the mental health institution.
- Alex was way more bearable this season and I was stanning him so much more. (The hair colour change definitely worked for me ) I found the character was so much more interesting this time around
- Jessica was great and Alisha gave a fantastic performance, definitely one of the highlights of the series again
- Justin was also fantastic this season and I'm so glad with the direction they went with his character and they delved more into his troubled upbringing etc. I love that the Jensens adopted him in the end and I really felt for him despite what happened in the 1st series. I'm still mad that he spent double the time in jail than Bryce did.
- Lainie gave me life and I'm really glad Mr Porter actually felt bad about what he did and tried to make some of the stuff right.
- I needed more Sheri. Also I was hoping Kat would somehow pop up but I don't think she was in it at all.
- Tony was f***ing horrendous again and completely pointless again. Urgh.

- The new characters on the whole were mostly shite. I couldn't STAND Cyrus at all or any of his friends (his sister was meh, she lowkey reminded me of Paige from PLL). Chloe was an important character to have in this I think and tbh she was quite good but not a fave. Tony's boyfriend was utterly pointless (a bit like Tony) and seemed like a rehash of his boyfriend from the 1st series but with some more words. The baseball coach was horrendous. Jackie was so over the top that she gave me life messT. I liked Nina tho (all her friends ew) and I liked Scott from what we saw and I was hoping he'd play a more integral part in the plot as hinted at in the first couple of episodes.

Onto plot stuff now:
- I was surprised they split up Olivia and Andy but I think it really did work. It just gave Kate Walsh even more to work with and was really effective in showing the after-effects
- I'm a mess with legal terms so I thought'd they'd won the trial for about 2 minutes until I realised they'd lost messT
- The polaroid idea worked really well cos they didn't overkill it and it felt more of a side-plot than what the whole show was centered around
- Tbh most of the plots went in the predictable way but its done in such an effective way that I couldn't care. There's something about this show that just really draws you into this world and everything that goes on.
- I liked how this season interlinked the trial with the other plots and the use of the different narrator each episode was very effective
- The covering of the aftermath of sexual abuse was great and really sensitively handled

And the 13th episode was something else:
- I thought it was so powerful at the start with most of the female characters sharing experiences of being taken advantage of and was so relevant. This show is at its best when it sensitively tackles important real world issues.
- They saved all the best songs for this episode as well *.* (Lovely being used in full, The Night We Met being powerful af again and Back To You serving a bop and worked perfectly for that scene)
- I was a complete crying mess during the episode. I was completely gone during Clay's funeral speech and Olivia giving Clay the 11 Reasons Why with him being on there, that actually ruined me. Then I thought they were gonna kill Justin off tragically with the heroin addiction so I was a mess then and I'm glad that he seems to finally be on the mend. I was a mess when Clay told Justin about them adopting him. And I was gone again during The Night We Met.
- And then the stuff with Tyler all coming to a head. The whole series was foreshadowing a school shooting but I thought after Bryce was arrested and it jumped forward a month, this was all gonna turn out to be speculation and not actually happen. And then that rape scene with Tyler happened and I was completely broken. I felt so so sorry for him and absolutely gone, that's definitely the hardest scene for me over the two series to watch after Hannah's suicide/discovery of the body. It was horrifying and such a powerful scene. I knew as soon as that happened & Spring Dance was brought up, that the shooting was gonna happen there. I really thought it was still going to go ahead considering some of the other boundaries the show has already pushed so I was kinda surprised Clay & friends actually successfully stopped it from going ahead.
That last 15 minutes was some of the most tense and nervewracking moments of TV I've watched in a very long time, I was literally frozen in fear and shock.

Another great series and yh I disagree with the harsh reaction this seems to be getting from critics again :/

I cba to write anymore for now
And a lil spoiler for y'all that I won't hide, Tony's gone from being a 25 year old that hangs out with teens to like a 35 year old that hangs out with teens this series x

Posted by: HarryEzra 20th May 2018, 12:49 PM

Just like season 1 I have loved this season and really has been an emotional rollercoaster <3 Can Kate Walsh and Alisha Boe get awards please they were phenomenal

And also like season 1 I really disagree with the critics again

Posted by: Liаm 23rd May 2018, 01:07 AM

This is a f***ing slog, I barely got through episode 2 and it felt like it was on for about 3 hours I don't think I can be bothered

Posted by: NellyEverySundae 23rd May 2018, 02:05 AM

It picks up after about 5 episodes so hang in there.

Um yeah this season was interesting to say the least

Can we talk about wtf happened right at the end though!? Like, Tyler’s rape scene was so unexpected and I found the level of detail going on in that scene absolutely horrifying albeit unnecessary. A lot of people have been talking about how the altercation talks about ‘real life situations’ but all I saw was an added shock value to what would’ve been a relatively tame finale. The only reason I’d see a season 3 is to make sure Monty gets what is coming to him. I’m still trying to process what I’v just seen

Posted by: cantthinkofaname 23rd May 2018, 06:51 AM

I loved this series up until the moment when Clay stopped Tyler from shooting up the dance and Tony drove off with someone who intended to murder him and all his friends just a few seconds ago. It not only felt like an unrealistic fantasy but it also just made no sense whatsoever. Clay was probably my least favourite character this season and his convincing powers have never been great so I'm surprised they made him do that but I guess he needed this "hero" moment. Then to top it all off they just saved Tyler despite his intentions. I know he was hurting after what had happened to him but still, mass murder is never forgivable.

Posted by: NellyEverySundae 23rd May 2018, 01:12 PM

I don’t think that was to just be a hero. I always interpreted it as Clay saying all the things to Tyler that he would've wanted to say to Hannah before she killed herself. The show tries to paint itself as ‘realistic’ but I’ve only ever seen it as a piece of thriller-drama and if that’s where the show wants to go then fair enough. I don’t think they were trying to say ‘because Tyler was treated awfully, his decision to mass shoot is justified’ but more that seeing red everywhere after anything terrible never leads to a good outcome. Obviously all the characters have been through loads during these seasons so I’m not surprised they had a different approach than to just get Tyler arrested.

Posted by: cantthinkofaname 23rd May 2018, 01:52 PM

Idk I just found the whole thing strange like when Cyrus' sister (can't remember her name lol) got Tyler's text instead of telling everyone to get the f*** out of the building they just stood there and eventually Clay ran out to talk to Tyler (the stupidest thing he could have done and IRL I think there would have been like a 99% chance of him getting shot the minute he stepped out of the building to talk to Tyler).

Posted by: Lindsey 🙃 24th May 2018, 01:24 PM

What a waste of time honestly, it went NOWHERE?! I hate Clay more now if nothing else x

I feel like it was just them backtracking/justifying all the errors they made in season one, like romanticizing suicide, portraying it as a revenge tactic, also not giving enough warning or suppprt resources for viewers it may affect etc so this season was a lot more aware of the messages it was putting out, which was good. The trial was basically used to say "oh no Hannah didn't kill herself to make others feel bad" (i personally didnt think she did when i watched season one but lots of people did) and idk, although it was watchable i didnt think it had much substance overall like the first season did. I don't really have any more points i wanna discuss as nothing was really added to the story other than rapists basically get off scott free and Tyler likes guns . It's a shame bc I think they brought up important enough topics but they just didn't tackle them in the best way, like Justin's story in particular could have been A LOT better. I feel like for the finale episode to have measured up to the last, Tyler should have got in to the dance and started shooting and actually hit someone but i think they were aware of how insensitive that would given recent events in America but they're showing graphic rape and suicide scenes (and putting out the appropriate warnings this time) so i would have thought they woulda done that anyway, it felt like the right way for it ti progress. It doesnt help that they showed literally THE worst way to try and stop an armed attacker as the successful method which is worrying... like WHY?! Just so whiney Clay could say he's a "hero?"

Posted by: Liаm 24th May 2018, 02:31 PM

Couldn't agree more, to me it really just feels like they have tried to backtrack on the stuff that got a backlash in Season 1, I agree I didn't really see all that personally or interpret it that way but it feels like they saw all that backlash and are now undoing all that and are now painting Hannah as an angel and wonderful friend to everyone. I actually liked in the first season that they didn't tackle it in the stereotypical way, you kind of felt a range of emotions for each character, like one minute you'd feel sorry for Hannah and then think she's in the wrong a bit, same for say Clay, which I actually think was a really clever way to tackle the issue rather than it just being 13 episodes of a pity party for Hannah. This season has undone all of that and it's just like taking the same story from a different angle without adding a lot to it.

I'll probs just watch the rest of this season for the sake of seeing what happens or doesn't happen) after exams when I'm bored in summer, after the first 3 episodes I really have no desire to blast through it to procrastinate or anything

Posted by: cantthinkofaname 24th May 2018, 04:03 PM

Decided to rank the characters after finishing season 2. I did so for last season as well but just kept it to myself but I'll reveal where they charted for me then as well. The characters I rank are the ones featured under "Cast & Characters" on the 13RW Wikipedia page.

SPOILER WARNING: don't read the rest of this post if you haven't finished season 2 yet.






























So starting with the ones who either didn't appear at all or hardly appeared in S2.

x (04) Jeff Atkins
Not featured enough in season 2 for me to list him for this season. Wish we got more closure for him, feels like everyone just kind of didn't care that he died which sucked because he was one of the most pleasant characters.

x (08) Kat
Wasn't even mentioned this season or brought in as a witness. Felt strange given that she was Hannah's friend.

x (18) Brad
Tony's boyfriend from season 1 who I never cared about ok moving on.

and now for 39th through 31st place..

RP = Relative Placement Change (How does the character fare if only the characters in both seasons are counted)

39 (29) Bryce Walker (RP: =)
Still a rapist. Still a creepy f***er. Honestly even worse than last season what with how manipulative he is, how he's got his girlfriend hooked with Stockholm Syndrome, and just general sleeziness. And he got away with it all, great.

38 (24) Montgomery de la Cruz (RP: -4)
His only redeeming factor is that he's hot. He's a psychopath as well, and what he did to Tyler is disgusting. I was honestly just hoping Tyler would shoot him and no one else but oh well.

37 (NE) Sonya Struhl
The school lawyer. I know being a lawyer means she's supposed to be like that but MY GOD I wanted to slap this woman every single episode she was on the screen. Her arguments were usually so stupid as well and for a young woman to be arguing like that was just so agitating.

36 (NE) Rick Wlodimierz
The sleezy goddamn baseball coach who's definitely done some shady shit himself. Gave me a creepy vibe the second he made his on-screen debut.

35 (21) Gary Bolan (RP: -6)
The principal. What a douche. Self-preserving asshole who only saw the dollar signs from the Walkers rather than sympathizing with Olivia.

34 (22) Tony Padilla (RP: -4)
The most boring storyline and we really could do without whatever the hell he's doing at any given time. Idc but I'm just not excited about anything he does.

33 (23) Marcus Cole (RP: -2)
Sleezebag and perv. Happy to see him punished for his treatment of not only Hannah but other girls as well. Wish the same could have been said about Bryce and Montgomery.

32 (05) Clay Jensen (RP: -17)
What a disappointing fall. I felt for Clay most of the first season but this time it just felt too much. He was being pushed down our throats so much but most of the time he was just thinking of himself first and foremost. Like how quick he was to believe what Bryce said about Hannah and how quick he was to go from feeling one thing about someone to feeling the exact opposite. I think he may honestly have bipolar like Skye tbh. Then that god damn hero moment at the end just pissed me the f*** off because it's literally the stupidest thing you could do in that situation.

31 (NE) Cyrus
I was warm towards him at first but how he reacted towards Tyler and how he treated him was pretty much the same way he's been treated this whole time so I don't pity him at all. He contributed to Tyler's downward spiral quite a lot and especially once they knew exactly why Tyler reacted the way he did at the cinema with Mackenzie he still proceeded to let everyone know just because, what, he said Mackenzie was boring because he was panicking and didn't want anyone to know what happened when they kissed.

Will add the rest later but here's who's remaining:

Alex Standall
Andy Baker
Barry Walker
Bill Standall
Caleb
Carolyn Standall
Chloe Rice
Courtney Crimsen
Dennis Vasquez
Greg Davis
Hannah Baker
Jackie
Jessica Davis
Justin Foley
Karen Dempsey
Kevin Porter
Lainie Jensen
Mackenzie
Matt Jensen
Nina Jones
Nora Walker
Olivia Baker
Pam Bradley
Ryan Shaver
Scott Reed
Sheri Holland
Skye Miller
Todd Crimsen
Tyler Down
Zach Dempsey

Posted by: blacksquare 24th May 2018, 06:46 PM

This is probably the most unnecessary sequel series in a long time.

Despite all the controversy with season one - there was still a semi-compelling story there. There is nothing to this at all. It exists for the sake of it.

Posted by: Klaus 31st May 2018, 07:52 PM

i really really really really did not need that mop scene

Posted by: LeeWallace 31st May 2018, 11:55 PM

It was almost as uncomfortable as your existence

Posted by: Cody💧Slayberry 1st June 2018, 02:32 PM

I do agree that this season was much slower than the first one but it did have its moments. I just didn’t like how this felt very Life Is Strange with the polaroids.

I take it that Hannah’s arc is pretty much done and over with? I dunno, Clay’s eulogy and that scene with Hannah/his conscience exiting the church seemed like a nice wrap to her story. Maybe something else will pop up relating to her with Montgomery turning into the big bad for future seasons. Maybe she’ll remain as a depiction of Clay’s conscience. The 11 Reasons Why Not scene might play into that as well. It’s noting that she did hurt people with her suicide and she did weigh the effects even though she did it anyway. It’s like she said to Clay after his outburst: “there’s nothing you said to me that I didn’t deserve.”

Looks like I was right about my hunch that Tyler was going to be much more prominent this season with his introduction to an anarchist approach and gun culture. After that mop scene, I really did think Montgomery was going to die during the school shooting until it never happened. There would have been a lot more gravity to the season had he actually opened fire but I also think the SJW’s would have gotten their panties in a twist and started a race row out of something that wasn’t supposed to be one so maybe it was for the best. I still think Tyler is going to kill someone in the future.

I’ve been FAWNING over Justin’s character development from this utter insecure douchebag to a broken puppy who finally has a home, that wrapped up that part of his arc nicely but with his mom disappearing I think that opens doors for a new one (possibly involving Clay’s mom?). I’m glad that he and Jess are much more civil now as well and talked things out. Alex and Sheri were the others I absolutely fell in love with this season. I’m digging Sheri’s new “down for anything” attitude.

Out of the new characters I thought I was going to be stanning Chloe... I'm still confused about her loyalty towards Bryce but now that he’s transferring it might open up some new arcs for her, possibly with Jess? I also felt that they were trying to recreate Jeff with Scott (with the “one good guy in the pack of bullies” trope) but it just fell flat for me. We have Zach for that anyway.

Also did Marcus completely disappear after he got suspended?

Posted by: Jack 1st June 2018, 03:46 PM

For someone who was so obsessed with the first series, this is such a disappointment

Netflix just don't know how to do second series - I found OITNB and Jessica Jones second series a huge fall in quality as well.

Posted by: Bitch 1st June 2018, 03:54 PM

I honestly wasn't prepared, I was in the middle of dinner

Posted by: Klaus 3rd June 2018, 09:31 AM

It was always going to be difficult to follow up with a second season due to the format of the first season and I've already expressed my concerns here before. I think they did well but it certainly wasn't as captivating as the first season.

I do think the whole basis of the trial was ridiculous, as with many US programmes, but at least it allowed people to tell their sides of the story. It did perhaps emphasise the point revenge suicide point for me though, most of the people named in the tapes made foolish mistakes/errors of judgement but they're now left feeling horrendous.

Jessica's storyline was definitely the highlight and handled really well, although absolutely ridiculous that Justin got a higher sentence than Bryce .

I kind of feel that many other character's storylines just were non-existent and the characters were left with nothing to do. You could have easily removed Sheri, Courtney and Ryan and there would have basically been no bearing on the events, aside from Sheri's venture into the clubhouse ofc.

I liked Tyler's storyline as you could see it all happening again in a different way, although that mop scene was waaaaaaaaaaaaay too extreme and unnecessary and I agree that the gun finale wasn't brilliantly done.

I pray there's not a third season though as that'll be completely overdoing it.

Posted by: Dexton 5th June 2018, 07:56 AM

I've only just got round to watching S2 now (I started on Friday) because I knew how nervewracking and hurting the whole thing was gonna be. The idea of a school shooting was 'teased' at the end of the first season and with everything going on irl right now I was scared to actually watch. The first season left me in a state afterwards so pacing this out a bit more was a good idea I think. Yes taking 4 days to watch one season of a tv show is pacing for me x

I've mentioned this before but I wasn't entirely sold on the idea of a second season, the first season focused solely on the tapes and moving from tapes to polaroids felt a bit cheap at first but I'm glad that wasn't the whole idea of this season. Same goes for all the plot points aside from the Bakers vs. Liberty High - almost everything is equally as strong and makes up for the fact that we don't have the tapes arc to follow.

Alex's accident changed my perception of him entirely and I do feel empathetic towards him. Miles Heizer does a great job of portraying Alex's growth and struggles, he is potentially one of my favourite characters of this season. Justin and Jessica are also favouites. Justin's time spent away, drug addiction, etc. etc. leading up to him being adopted all flows nicely and is a highlight for me. Jessica's development is similarly inspiring (but obviously for completely different reasons). The two rekindling a bit at the end didn't quite sit with me right at first. Whilst I am heartbroken for Alex, I'm happy that Jessica is moving on (sort of).

Courtney and Ryan are so unnecessary this season, I'm glad they got them out of the way early on. Tyler testifying first had a lot of impact. He told his absolute truth about what happened and then watched others lie their arses off after him just to watch their own back. I didn't like his new friends but I understood why he was hanging out with them and just wish it could've worked out for him in the end.

Bryce is obviously still my least favourite. He's a despicable human being and how he's manipulated Chloe is horrible. His mum distrusting her own son from the beginning was a fitting touch, and the way his dad (and the coach, and the principle, and the adult males for most of the show) wouldn't face the truth was a sad look at our world. For a second in Bryce's testimony I thought Bryce was also seeing Hannah around like Clay has been. The scene after the football game where she walks up to him, I thought that was maybe a current event and he was haunted by what he'd done to her... but no... that was a flashback and Bryce is just a horrific as he always has been. Montgomery is second worst for sure. I thought he was going to redeem himself a bit by giving Alex the polaroids and skipping town but apparently not... and that scene with Tyler was awful.

I don't know if I prefer this season or the first. S1 had shock value for suicide being shown on a TV show, whereas S2 expanded more of what happened and focused more on sexual assault which is extremely relevant in our society. If season 3 does come, I hope Hannah is in it less just because the whole scene at the funeral was a nice way for Clay to finally let her go. Obviously him saying everything to Tyler that he wished he'd said to Hannah might bring her back up, but I do think we won't see her again. At least not in the capacity we have seen her this season anyway.

Posted by: Cody💧Slayberry 5th June 2018, 02:28 PM

Okay the more I watch that scene the more I think that the writers intended to have the school shooting take place instead of Clay jumping to the rescue, but a lot happened in the several months of filming and development (Vegas, Parkland, etc.) that led to the writers inserting a different scene. If there is a third season that might be something to explore (Why Tyler wanted to do it and if there were any other reasons other than Monty that were catalysts toward this mindset).

The US judicial system has always been flawed, especially when the defendant is a white male with privilege. Bryce’s character and arc has many similarities to the Brock Turner case and that happened the same way. In the Beyond The Reasons special, the writers mentioned that they wanted to incorporate as much of real life as there should be (they also did their research on male sexual assault for Tyler’s scene).

Justin was aware of the double standards, though (that talk he had with Clay about Hannah being called a $l*t for sleeping with Zach only proves it further). When he was talking to Clay’s mom about testifying, he understood the risks and he knew that he was never going to be let off easy like Bryce was. But he chose to do it anyway out of love; he wanted to give that love and sacrifice that his mother wouldn’t give him.

Posted by: UltraReputation 6th June 2018, 03:16 PM

Season 3 confirmed *.*

Posted by: Klaus 6th June 2018, 03:58 PM

what a joke 🙄🙄🙄

I liked both series but it really does not need to continue!!

Posted by: Liаm 6th June 2018, 04:03 PM

good christ

Posted by: J▲hq 6th June 2018, 06:51 PM

I have three episodes left to watch of season 2 and despite having some issues with things that feel out of character or I just don't buy because why are they only just coming to light (Zach and Hannah sleeping together all summer being the big one), I still expect season 3 to be right at the top of my watch list. The second season hasn't felt like a chore and I've still been eager to continue whenever I've had a spare hour, so I won't complain (yet) about this renewal.

Posted by: Cody💧Slayberry 6th June 2018, 07:12 PM

2019 release so there should be enough time to help digest the season. I've seen a lot of complaints because this already diverged from the source material enough during this season, but with that logic, shouldn't Shadowhunters have ended already? I've heard rumors that Katherine Langford let slip that she might not be on this season though.

Posted by: Jonjo 6th June 2018, 07:55 PM

That wouldn't surprise me, but I liked seeing her be Clay's "voice" in this season, so they could easily do something like that i.e. He's going crazy/life's getting him down etc...

I'm definitely open to another season. Especially with the way the 2nd season ended and it will be able to put forward social themes from a teenagers perspective again and I assume it'll be mostly about Tyler and the whole gun control situation that's very high in the US atm

The 2nd season definitely felt less natural and a lot more "forced" than the first, but I felt the last half was really well paced and very well done overall. Alisha Boe needs all the awards possible tbh. She was the absolute highlight of the entire series this time for me.

Posted by: UltraReputation 6th June 2018, 07:59 PM

Yeah I'd be shocked if Katherine or Kate return. I feel there character arcs are over and the funeral part was Hannah's closure

Posted by: lewistgreen 9th July 2018, 05:28 PM

DEAD

Posted by: AuraMasterCody 9th July 2018, 05:47 PM

“heeheehee-hehehehehehehe RYAN” DECEASED