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Martyn
post Mar 12 2017, 07:44 PM
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It's hard to not see this as a cynical ploy for votes on Russia's part
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post Mar 12 2017, 07:44 PM
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Absolutely awful. First time in 5 years I've not liked the Russian entry
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post Mar 12 2017, 07:51 PM
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Yeah, I don't know. It looks like Russia has no intention to win Eurovision this year.
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post Mar 12 2017, 08:00 PM
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Yeah, quite hard to not see the political undertones in this. It's not like she's an incredible vocalist too, from what I know. Hopefully it's not true and she was chosen on her own merit though (or by giving a sum of money needed for participation to the right people - this is still better than the 'please don't boo us, she's in a wheelchair' scenario).

The song is as beige as it can get. Embarrassing even.
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post Mar 12 2017, 08:03 PM
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gosh, my ears are bleeding.
that pronunciation dry.gif okay, there's enough time to improve her skills.
btw, I find this kinda worrying - back vocals often do a disgusting disservice to songs and singers. As for this one, back vocals RUINED all the attempts of charming.
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post Mar 12 2017, 08:03 PM
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I indeed hope this was something she wanted to do but it feels sort of cruel to be given such a poor, dated song. They'll still qualify and do ok in the final I think though.
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post Mar 12 2017, 08:06 PM
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It feels rather uncomfortable to me. Awful
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post Mar 12 2017, 08:07 PM
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At least she's not getting THAT much hate on russian forums. Because pretty much EVERYTHING is hated by internet Russians. Jamala is STILL getting called VERY offensive names to this day quite regularly. :')
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post Mar 13 2017, 02:10 PM
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Turns out Yulia is on this so-called Russian artist blacklist in Ukraine after performing in Crimea without entering through Ukrainian borders.
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post Mar 13 2017, 02:20 PM
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This is what provocation smells like.
Just let it go, I mean there're obviously a lot of fans of delving into dirty laundry, and it just became a thing - tryna looking for some sh!t to hit the fan.
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post Mar 13 2017, 02:29 PM
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well, according to Channel One who's responsible for all the things related to Eurovision in Russia, they were "looking for the singer with certain biography"
and there's too much ways to treat these words, honestly I can't give any specific comments right now sad.gif
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post Mar 13 2017, 03:29 PM
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Everything about this is OUTRAGEOUS! I LOVE IT, cynical song and ALL! *.*
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post Mar 13 2017, 03:54 PM
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The AUDACITY of the Russian delegation. It's musically terrible and yet they can't lose, if it bombs, we're awful people.

I feel for her.
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post Mar 13 2017, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Mar 13 2017, 08:54 PM) *
and yet they can't lose, if it bombs, we're awful people

THIS
p.s. *cough* Poland 2015 *cough*
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post Mar 13 2017, 06:06 PM
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The song for me is just very bland, which suppose does verge on awful laugh.gif I feel it's trying to be 100% safe but ending up with a probable DNQ. Of course it is quite awful they are going as far as using a severely handicapped woman for votes regardless of the song's merit, or rather lack thereof :/
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post Mar 13 2017, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(djgrafdemon @ Mar 13 2017, 05:46 PM) *
THIS
p.s. *cough* Poland 2015 *cough*

I can't figure out if the performance will be more or less geared towards sympathy votes than Poland in 2015. That was... really pushing it.

I've seen quite a few comments about this along the lines of "Who says disabled people can only compete for sympathy?!" and it's like, OK, but if the theme of the performance is literally just "Here is the singer in a wheelchair; nothing else will be happening" then I'm going to question the motivation for that.
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post Mar 13 2017, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Umi @ Mar 13 2017, 06:10 PM) *
I can't figure out if the performance will be more or less geared towards sympathy votes than Poland in 2015. That was... really pushing it.

I've seen quite a few comments about this along the lines of "Who says disabled people can only compete for sympathy?!" and it's like, OK, but if the theme of the performance is literally just "Here is the singer in a wheelchair; nothing else will be happening" then I'm going to question the motivation for that.


I don't think it's even just the performance, it seems like it's the entirety of their marketing strategy!

And if the point of comparison is Poland 2015 then that stronger, more melodic and better sung song scored what would have been a paltry 10 jury points under the current system. And that's without all the "no way I'm voting for Russia" nefariousness that this would unfortunately be subject to.
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post Mar 13 2017, 06:56 PM
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Poland 2015 was not more melodic or stronger. One of the dullest ballads ever sent to the damn contest.
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post Mar 13 2017, 07:38 PM
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Poland 2015 was good in studio form. Live not so much but it's a million times better than this atrocity.
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post Mar 13 2017, 07:44 PM
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This is both awful and hypnotizing. I don't know what to make of it.
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