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 Classic Albums #3: Pulp - Different Class, Rise of the Misfits |
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 5th April 2014, 09:33 AM
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 I Was Born Free
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'We don't want no trouble, we just want the right to be different. That's all.'
 01. "Mis-Shapes" 02. "Pencil Skirt" 03. "Common People" 04. "I Spy" 05. "Disco 2000" 06. "Live Bed Show" 07. "Something Changed" 08. "Sorted for E's & Wizz" 09. "F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E" 10. "Underwear" 11. "Monday Morning" 12. "Bar Italia" What did you think of Jarvis and pals' outsider anthems? I never loved this album at the time but that's probably because there was so much good music around at the time. (Yes I loved Britpop.) I have relistened to it recently and it is a great album although Jarvis does come off as a bit of revengeful lust filled stalker at times. Obviously contains one of the best singles of the time (of all-time?) in Common People but is this even your favourite track? |
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5th April 2014, 09:40 AM
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I'm so lonely, I paid a hobo to spoon with me
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Love it, was introduced to it when I was really young except whenever it got played in the car my parents used to skip some tracks like "I Spy".
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5th April 2014, 01:18 PM
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 Mansonette
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This is the album that best represented the Britpop movement at the time and as such it does bring back some very good memories. I remember listening to it when I was in the sixth form and it really did feel like it could be the sound of a generation that was going to make a real difference - but we all know what sixth formers are like for pretension... It also used to be the highlight of my wardrobe, a black t-shirt with a reflective silver PULP logo on it was the very height of fashion round Dand's.
In retrospect it sort of still represents Britpop for me in so much as it's got some of the very best singles ever released (Common People, Mis-Shapes, Sorted..., Disco 2000, Something Changed), a couple of underrated gems (Bar Italia, Monday Morning, F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E.) and a fair few tracks that don't quite work outside of context and as Grebo said sound rather awkward and pervy now (I Spy, Pencil Skirt, Live Bed Show, Underwear). I don't ever actually listen to it in full these days, in fact I have a hybrid of Different Class and His N Hers that I listen to instead... Mis-Shapes Lipgloss Babies Common People Disco 2000 Pink Glove Razzmatazz Do You Remember The First Time? Something Changed Sorted For E's & Wizz F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E. Monday Morning Bar Italia Cocaine Socialism (technically cheating but obviously about this period so fits as an end track) That's my perfect Pulp album right there. (edit... been having a Pulp session all afternoon since seeing this thread - good shout Grebo!) This post has been edited by مدهش*: 5th April 2014, 04:41 PM |
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6th April 2014, 08:59 PM
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Yes, it's me.
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Full album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWi5Te7KJhI I think I need to re-assess this album. I do love I Spy and FEELNGCALLEDLOVE |
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7th April 2014, 06:47 AM
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Poet and Storyteller
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It was the first Pulp album to come out post-Glastonbury and post-Common People so I can understand why people naturally put forward this as Pulp's top album. But it's really nowhere near as good as His 'N' Hers or Intro for that matter. Intro is my perfect Pulp album, they were so good just before they signed to Island.
It's still great for a listen though - FEELINGCALLEDLOVE, I Spy, Bar Italia and Live Bed Show in particular and, of course, Common People. I'd say some of the other singles have really not stood the test of time - Sorted for E's and Whiz doesn't sound anywhere near as essential as it used to, Mis-Shapes is bad Britpop and Disco 2000 remains the worst thing Pulp ever did. Also, Russell was right that Something Changed should never have been released...but maybe shouldn't have quit over it! |
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7th April 2014, 05:05 PM
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Mansonette
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Yeah this is somewhere in my top 20 albums of all time I would think. It was clear from the previous album that Pulp were going to be something special and for me this albums defines 1995 as much as any. Sure, Blur and Oasis were bigger but Pulp were always funnier and smarter. Inevitably they would never quite reach these heights again but a towering Glastonbury performance was fully deserved. Some tracks have dated but then Britpop in general has.
I quite like the pervy ones. Not sure what that says about me... I always thought Jarvis was an excellent commentator on the little details in life much like Alex Turner has been in more recent times. Pulp remain sorely missed for me. |
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7th April 2014, 06:06 PM
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One of the best albums in history of pop music. No weak tracks and two perfect songs: Common People and FEELINGCALLEDLOVE.
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7th April 2014, 09:23 PM
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Yes, it's me.
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I actually enjoy Disco 2000 the best of all the singles. Common People is good but I never loved it. The other three are nothing I'd choose to listen to.
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8th April 2014, 06:27 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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Yeah I don't get how anyone could hate Disco 2000.
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8th April 2014, 06:41 AM
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Poet and Storyteller
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The cheesy cod-Gloria guitar riff and the word 'woodchip' get on my nerves.
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8th April 2014, 09:02 AM
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I Was Born Free
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I still love E's and Whizz. I think it is such a Morrissey-esque look at drugs and drug culture but with more wit.
Disco 2000 still gets the odd airing. Great chorus although for me it's the use of the name Deborah that annoys me. Something Changed never really grabbed me at all. Wasn't that a double a-side rather than a single in it's own right? |
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8th April 2014, 09:22 AM
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Poet and Storyteller
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QUOTE(ϑЃεβϘ @ Apr 8 2014, 10:02 AM)  Something Changed never really grabbed me at all. Wasn't that a double a-side rather than a single in it's own right? Not that I recall. In fact it was a pretty lazy release all round as the B-side was 'Mile End' which had been released previously on the Trainspotting soundtrack. |
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8th April 2014, 10:43 AM
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I Was Born Free
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No I was getting it mixed up with E's and Wizz/Mis-shapes!
Forgot that Something Changed actually got to #10. Quite surprising really. |
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7th June 2015, 10:58 AM
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 #38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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So Jarvis Cocker gave an interview about this album last night at the John Peel Centre in Suffolk, and then listened (for the first time) with the assembled audience to the album played out in full, this was via John Peel's own mint condition version of the LP. He came across as really humble, but interesting and it was great to hear about his experience of being invited to perform on the Peel show at just 17 in 1981, and recollecting when their first single made the Top 40 back in 1994.
He felt that the opener “Misfits” was a little try-hard, and explained that producer Chris Thomas left in some random noise on the record, like Jarvis saying "can someone turn my headphones down" during the second verse on “Common People”. The bus sound effect that ends the album was also re-used on the opener of This Is Hardcore. |
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8th June 2015, 09:23 AM
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Yes, it's me.
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I love hearing stories like that. I think I'll take a listen to DC today.
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