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 6th November 2023, 09:58 PM
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There's typically about 21 songs for a headliner and I can't believe there are many out there that could have a setlist that would be better than something like this:
01 Celebration 02 Holiday 03 Into the Groove 04 Papa Don't Preach 05 Material Girl 06 Borderline 07 Sorry 08 Vogue 09 Express Yourself 10 Justify My Love / Erotica 11 Don't Tell Me 12 Frozen 13 Live To Tell 14 La Isla Bonita 15 Like a Virgin 16 Crazy For You 17 Open Your Heart 18 Music 19 Hung Up 20 Ray of Light 21 Like a Prayer |
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6th November 2023, 09:58 PM
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It is not even worthy of a debate Kylie’s voice is far superior to Madonnas. Her live performances are evident of this!
Madonna’s 80s catalogue is awesome hence the Spotify playlists snd associated listeners. It is her persona, gimmicks and looks that people don’t like. She is not ageing gracefully and lacks class. Sorry but this is the truth. The average person thinks her marriage to Guy, young lovers, randomly selected children and what she has done to her face are just a big turn off. As mentioned people like her old songs but not the person I am afraid. Glastonbury will go out live and people will focus on the way she looks and her faltering voice. She should think twice. In an arena full of fans she can get away with it. |
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6th November 2023, 10:17 PM
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What you're articulating is what some people will focus on. She has had to battle this sort of crap for a lot of her career and I can't imagine she's going to suddenly stop now just because some will spout misogynistic crap as they seem to think they have some sort of right to decide what an older woman should and should not behave like.
She has every right to claim the legends stage at Glastonbury. She has more than earned it. And it says more about you and others like you that you would focus on her look and personal life. I don't doubt that you're right that there will be others who hold the same type of view but the very idea that she should not perform at Glastonbury because of what they may think and say about her 
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6th November 2023, 10:30 PM
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She is MADONNA — her legacy is so astronomical that she could headline Glastonbury as much as she wanted. Everything else is subjective and insubstantial.
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6th November 2023, 10:31 PM
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I think she should perform but do the hits only mainly from the 80s and mine lol.
Not much she can do about her looks now or her charlie and the chocolate factory golden winning ticket children. The public are entitled to their opinion as am I. She can date whoever she wants but suffer the ridicule. She looks silly with these young lads. I was a big fan like most but she has not aged well in both looks and personality. She comes across as bitchy and crass. Fine when you are young and in your prime with hit after hit. A totally different story now though. |
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6th November 2023, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(Rob10 @ Nov 6 2023, 11:31 PM)  I think she should perform but do the hits only mainly from the 80s and mine lol. Not much she can do about her looks now or her charlie and the chocolate factory golden winning ticket children. The public are entitled to their opinion as am I. She can date whoever she wants but suffer the ridicule. She looks silly with these young lads. I was a big fan like most but she has not aged well in both looks and personality. She comes across as bitchy and crass. Fine when you are young and in your prime with hit after hit. A totally different story now though. She can perform what she wants. She can date who she wants. She can wear what she wants. She can do what she wants. Anyway |
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6th November 2023, 10:38 PM
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Madonna will not do a GH show that is far different from the setlist that she is using now!
The tour will be in her bones!! |
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6th November 2023, 11:07 PM
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Mansonette
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It also feels very odd to suggest she should stick to the 80s - from a completely objective point of view she clearly has so much more in the 90s and 00s that the general public have affection for
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7th November 2023, 07:25 AM
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Imagine suggesting that she shouldn't perform songs like Music, Hung Up, Ray of Light, 4 Minutes, Give It 2 Me etc...
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7th November 2023, 07:44 AM
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Having a look at previous headliners, Madonna more than compares (and in most cases surpasses) to the calibre of legend status for performers - vocally too! But vocals only become such a contentious issue for pop females it seems.
It's a music festival, not a "who has aged gracefully and maintained a pretty appearance" festival so any talk of that just reeks of misogyny and rudeness. Madonna is musically one of the greatest legends to have ever been, the stage is deservedly hers if she wants it. |
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7th November 2023, 11:30 AM
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Lol didn’t mean to set off a Madonna vs. Kylie debate! 🙈 I love them both and hope this can be a career peak for Madonna in the same way it was for Kylie. I do agree that the good will towards Madonna hasn’t been great and lord knows some of her performances in recent years have left a lot to be desired, but I think she has really proven herself on her latest tour, both visually and vocally, and I’m excited for the Glastonbury audience to see them improvements. She does need to re-examine the tour set list though, if she does base Glastonbury on that, as there are some big hits missing and some songs there that general audiences won’t know or care for.
QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Nov 6 2023, 08:15 AM) Emily Eavis has denied this story and said it's not true, although it doesn't mean they're all wrong. She's previously said 2024 has two female headliners and I'd expect Madonna to be the most likely of the three to be correct. Yeah I noticed that, I think it probably will be correct but not signed on the dotted line yet. QUOTE(HausofKubrick @ Nov 7 2023, 07:44 AM) Having a look at previous headliners, Madonna more than compares (and in most cases surpasses) to the calibre of legend status for performers - vocally too! But vocals only become such a contentious issue for pop females it seems. It's a music festival, not a "who has aged gracefully and maintained a pretty appearance" festival so any talk of that just reeks of misogyny and rudeness. Madonna is musically one of the greatest legends to have ever been, the stage is deservedly hers if she wants it. Tbf I do recall Paul McCartney and Elton John getting criticism for their vocals when they headlined. I think vocals are important but I’d say it’s clear from the tour Madonna has been working on them and sounds very good! She’s definitely more than qualified to headline - she’s the Queen of Pop! Crazy to think she hasn’t headlined before now, I assume she must have been approached? |
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7th November 2023, 01:06 PM
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Rob10 I’m still laughing… I don’t want to validate your ridiculous comment. It’s all subjective, but I cannot abide Kylie’s weak, thin live girly voice. I’ve seen her live a few times and walked out of Aphrodite because it was so poor.. on record it’s ok, but not so much lately.
I absolutely love Madonna’s voice, and so I’m biased. Ps When Kylie doing Super Bowl???? |
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7th November 2023, 06:53 PM
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Kylie’s vocals are stunning for a female pop performer. She kills it every time nothing more to say on the subject. Oh and yes I have been to 4 of Madonna’s tours and my ears are free of wax lol
Superbowl is totally naff anyway. Kylie at the Sydney Olympics with a 2 billion audience was much more noteworthy. Oh and if you don’t like Kylie's voice why did you go and see her on more than one occasion. A tad hypocritical. |
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7th November 2023, 06:55 PM
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Mansonette
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Can you both please just drop the Madge vs Kylie stuff?
I don't think there's any need for either of you to be bashing the other artist - would rather just see you both praise your respective 'sides' in their respective artist forums 
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8th November 2023, 08:55 AM
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If M does Glastonbury, she’ll smash it, and set the bar for everyone that comes after her in that slot. She’s Madonna, where she leads, others follow…
However, as the most successful female artist of all time (sales AND touring) she doesn’t need to do it. If she does, I wonder whether she’ll parachute in whole segments of the Celebration Tour or whether she’ll start from scratch? I’m certain she’ll be getting her guitar out too, which might surprise many. |
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8th November 2023, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(Dante77 @ Nov 7 2023, 01:06 PM) Rob10 I’m still laughing… I don’t want to validate your ridiculous comment. It’s all subjective, but I cannot abide Kylie’s weak, thin live girly voice. I’ve seen her live a few times and walked out of Aphrodite because it was so poor.. on record it’s ok, but not so much lately. I absolutely love Madonna’s voice, and so I’m biased. Ps When Kylie doing Super Bowl???? Kylie actually has a THREE OCTAVE vocal range, so you can shut your mouth on that one. But anyway, if you can't "abide" her voice as you say, why did you fork out money to see her more than once?  Mentalist |
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8th November 2023, 09:50 PM
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And there was me thinking this was a Madonna forum!
Kylie is harmless fluff. I loved Light Years, but she longer interests me. I I don’t care what octave voice she has, I find her voice limited, thin and too whispery/childlike. As a performer, there’s nothing that interests me. Still, some people are easily pleased. |
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18th December 2023, 10:21 AM
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Daily Mail reporting that Glastonbury haven’t managed to secure a fee with Madonna as she’s too costly! Apparently she was wanting to recreate her tour show and she was due to perform the legends slot, not headline as previously thought.
I don’t think her tour set would translate well for Glastonbury but still a huge shame it’s not likely she’ll be performing. I think it’s mad that they wanted her for the legends slot though, she should have been headlining! |
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18th December 2023, 10:59 AM
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Exactly she’s not a daytime kind of act! She’s bigger than pretty much anyone else they can get as a headliner. Just pure ageism. I’d rather she didn’t perform at all than be given the Sunday afternoon slot personally
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18th December 2023, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Dec 18 2023, 10:21 AM) Daily Mail reporting that Glastonbury haven’t managed to secure a fee with Madonna as she’s too costly! Apparently she was wanting to recreate her tour show and she was due to perform the legends slot, not headline as previously thought. I don’t think her tour set would translate well for Glastonbury but still a huge shame it’s not likely she’ll be performing. I think it’s mad that they wanted her for the legends slot though, she should have been headlining! I read this too. Who knows. I'm secretly quite glad she may not do it (it would be nice), but it's not like she NEEDS to do it (she's not some fading POP princess, or an ageing singer from the 70's). She's Madonna, and I don't feel her intricate set in it's current incarnation on the Celebration Tour will translate that well. Who knows, I may wrong. She was amazing @ Live Earth and Live8 (the last big stadium events) with fans/non fans, and I'm sure if she does do Glasto she will rock it. |
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