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Tawdry Hepburn
post Nov 3 2019, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Nov 3 2019, 04:21 PM) *
One which no-one with a working brain cell would believe, anyway.


Speaks volumes that Chris believes it, then. thinking.gif
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post Nov 3 2019, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Nov 3 2019, 07:07 PM) *
Speaks volumes that Chris believes it, then. thinking.gif



I never said I believe it. Suedy said laws can't be finally passed until Parliament is officially opened and doubt that will be before Christmas whoever wins the election.
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post Nov 3 2019, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 3 2019, 04:43 PM) *
Blame Cameron then.

Don't worry. There are many people who can never forgive that idiot. He's the one who decided to legislate for an advisory referendum (with a consequent lack of any threshold or provision to annul the result if the winning side broke the law) and then announced that the government would implement the result.

He is the one who, by legislating for an advisory referendum, helped the Leave campaign to get away with not providing anything remotely resembling a plan.

He is the one who did precisely nothing to promote the benefits of EU membership while he was PM. Such was his reluctance to do so that he delegated responsibility for EU matters to Nick Clegg under the coalition.

He is the one who decided that it was worth gambling the future of the country for the sake of his career.

He is the one who made no attempt whatsoever to get any of the right-wing tabloids on his side in the referendum.
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 3 2019, 07:09 PM) *
I never said I believe it. Suedy said laws can't be finally passed until Parliament is officially opened and doubt that will be before Christmas whoever wins the election.

That statement just helps to underline the point made by many of us countless times. A responsible press would see it as their primary duty to inform their readers rather than to promote the political views of their owners. That would have meant that they would have made it very clear that Johnson's promise was undeliverable.

The BBC are little better. They know that any attempt to suggest that anything coming from a minister's mouth is anything less than the 100% gospel truth will be denounced by the Tories and their lackeys in the press as proof of bias. Therefore, they decide to play safe and interpret their obligation to be impartial by reporting politicians' claims without comment.
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post Nov 3 2019, 10:04 PM
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Sealion, what do you think the result of the opinion poll in 2016 would have been had the question been, do you want to be stripped of your eu citizenship?? wink.gif
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Sealion, what do you think the result of the opinion poll in 2016 would have been had the question been, do you want to be stripped of your eu citizenship?? wink.gif



Hey Michael. It would have been "Yeah bring it on man. I'm British and not European." laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 3 2019, 10:12 PM) *
Hey Michael. It would have been "Yeah bring it on man. I'm British and not European." laugh.gif

Look at a map. You're both in just the same way that you can be a Yorkshireman and British.
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And we’ll all still be European even if we ever do leave the EU.
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post Nov 3 2019, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Nov 3 2019, 11:30 PM) *
And we’ll all still be European even if we ever do leave the EU.

Sure, we might technically still be European, but we'd feel a lot more belonging if we were part of the project that encompasses the vast majority of the continent.

I mean, Russians are technically European, but is there really much affinity in practice?
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 3 2019, 10:12 PM) *
Hey Michael. It would have been "Yeah bring it on man. I'm British and not European." laugh.gif



Actually whether you like it or not, you ARE European. EU or not, the UK is geographically part of Europe. So therefore you are both British and European even if it doesn't resonate with you.

What you're saying is the equivolent of a guy from Beijing saying "I'm Chinese, not Asian".


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£120 million cost. More money wasted.

I do hope people become more aware of how much money is going to be wasted via Brexit, particularly as the election goes on. The fiscal position of the UK is likely to get a lot worse with how things are currently setting up.
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Royal Mail said they will take industrial Action leading up to Christmas and the general election. It could effect Black Friday and 12th December. The union boss was asked by ITV news, why don’t you strike in January. What a daft question? laugh.gif


This will affect postal votes and Xmas mail too.
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