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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Kylie and Dannii Minogue _ Kylie Minogue '94 ● rank the singles (+more)

Posted by: Nina West Jun 2 2020, 01:57 AM



Time for another ranking & now we're onto her 5th studio album titled KM'94 (not the most inventive title), would have named it "Dangerous Game", but that's just me.
Because there's only 3 singles, I've decided to add "Where The Wild Roses Grow" to the mix. Like the title says just rank the singles below best to worst, so have fun.




Simply rank best to worst:

Confide In Me
Put Yourself In My Place
Where Is The Feeling

*Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave)






If you haven't already ranked them already, here's the links to her other eras:

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234692
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234484
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234266
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=234071





Here's the videos to help with your decision making & just for fun...





Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn Jun 2 2020, 09:10 AM

Put Yourself In My Place
Confide In Me
Where The Wild Roses Grow
Where Is The Feeling?

Posted by: ...ready for it Jun 2 2020, 10:00 AM

1. Put Yourself In My Place
2. Confide In Me
3. Where Is The Feeling?
4. Where The Wild Roses Grow

Posted by: vibe Jun 2 2020, 10:25 AM

QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 2 2020, 10:10 AM) *
Put Yourself In My Place
Confide In Me
Where The Wild Roses Grow
Where Is The Feeling?



Same

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 2 2020, 01:46 PM

01 Where the wild roses grow
02 Put yourself in my place
03 Where is the feeling
04 Confide in me

Posted by: Nina West Jun 2 2020, 02:43 PM

1. Confide In Me
2. Put Yourself In My Place
3. Where The Wild Roses Grow
4. Where Is The Feeling

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 2 2020, 03:16 PM

I wish they had named this album differently, confide in me could have worked as the title.

Posted by: pippa Jun 2 2020, 04:18 PM

1 Where the Wild Roses Grow.

2 Put Yourself in My Place.

3 Confide In Me.

4 Where Is The Feeling.

Posted by: Dannyboy Jun 2 2020, 04:38 PM

Put Yourself In My Place
Confide In Me
Where Is The Feeling
Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave

Posted by: Dannyboy Jun 2 2020, 04:40 PM

I luuuuuuurve this where is the feeling version

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 2 2020, 04:53 PM

The 4 singles on offer here show huge diversity from Kylie.

Posted by: Hide&Seek Jun 2 2020, 10:27 PM

1 put yourself in my place
2 where the wild roses grow
3 confide in me
4 where is the feeling

Posted by: slowdown73 Jun 2 2020, 10:42 PM

1. Confide in me
2. Put yourself in my place
3. Where the wild roses grow
4. Where is the feeling

Dangerous game would have been 2nd if released as a single. Time will pass you by - 4th.

Posted by: Nina West Jun 3 2020, 03:16 AM

The artworks for this era =




Posted by: ___∆___ Jun 3 2020, 09:16 AM

OMG what a choice - I love them all even the universally hated ‘Where Is The Feeling’

Put Yourself In My Place
Confide In Me
Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave)
Where Is The Feeling

Posted by: pippa Jun 3 2020, 10:36 AM

Confide in Me and Where The Wild Roses Grow are landmark releases in her discography.
The tracks hold importance in showcasing diversity in her career that many had previously criticized Kylie for.

Posted by: pippa Jun 3 2020, 10:37 AM

Confide in Me and Where The Wild Roses Grow are landmark releases in her discography.
The tracks hold importance in showcasing diversity in her career that many had previously criticized Kylie for.

Posted by: Nina West Jun 3 2020, 11:58 AM

After listening to "Where Is The Feeling" again, I've actually started to warm towards it (in its original album form) & think it did make a decent single choice. Now hear me out before u all flood me with hate.

In it's original form its a cool dance anthem that's perhaps the closest song, in production style at least to her PWL days, its light, fun & bounces along quite nicely. But as for its single mix, its just okay at best & do commend her for at least trying something very uncommercial & different, (even if it didn't quite work out). What really killed any chance of this succeeding is the 8 month gap between releases & honestly anything else from the album would have suffered the same fate as this did. The album campaign was badly handled & was long dead in the water before this even came about.

Now if "WITF" got released earlier in the year without the remix & just edited down the album version, then things may have worked out better, & could have maybe notched up some sales for the album & then in the summer we could have actually got the planned 4th single "Time Will Pass You By", which could have rounded off this era quite nicely. Maybe the album could have gone Platinum , as a better release schedule like this could have really helped keep interest.


Just because the album & far better version of "WITF":


Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 3 2020, 12:40 PM

Where is the feeling as an album track is fine but I still think I there were far better choices for singles.this and better than today would be liked way more if they were album tracks only.

Posted by: vibe Jun 3 2020, 02:45 PM

I thought CIM would have walked this !!!

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 3 2020, 04:53 PM

usually it does but im happy to see it get a run for its money although i will admit i have liked it a little more recently than i usually would have done in the past.

Posted by: slowdown73 Jun 3 2020, 06:34 PM

I never understood why where is the feeling was released as a single. A remix of the track featured on one of the put yourself in my place CD singles. There are also much stronger releases on the album such as dangerous game which were completely over looked.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 3 2020, 06:35 PM

It never made any sense at all why it was picked, the fact it was a b side to the previous single made the decision such a weird one.

Posted by: pippa Jun 3 2020, 07:47 PM

With some strong options to choose from on the remaining tracks it is a decision that is highly questionable.
That or someone had an overbelief in the track.

Posted by: Nina West Jun 3 2020, 08:03 PM

I'm seeing quite a few comments about why "Where Is The Feeling" was a single & why a remix of it featured on her previous single before it "PYIMP"; which I do agree was odd & the only explanation I could find is that, firstly on CD2 where this featured is that originally it was meant to feature another remix of "CIM" (which also featured on CD1), not sure why they decided upon this, maybe it was something to do with chart regulations or something.

Also for whatever reason "WITF" was planned for a single release from the start as it was initially planned as the 2nd single, but was postponed in favour of the far better "Put Yourself In My Place" & was then scheduled for release in April 1995, but delayed until July due to Kylie filming the movie "Bio-Dome". I do agree that there were stronger tracks on the album than this, It may have been a contract obligation by the track's songwriters/producers to have this as a single or something (like Britney with "Outrageous" & "Radar"). I honestly don't know & apparently this almost didn't make the final cut of the album.

Another reason could be that in its original form it was the closest pop track to her PWL days & the label thought that this may have attracted more sales. But of course this idea went out the window when it got delayed for several months & got radically remixed to the point where it doesn't even resemble its original version. These are just my thoughts, let me know what u guys think.

Of note the format of this release ended up being reduced to just 1 CD instead of 2, with the planned remixes & B-Sides "Living For Your Loving" & "Love Is On The Line" getting scrapped.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 3 2020, 09:16 PM

the contract obligation could be a very good point as to why it was released having no cd 2 prob cost it top 15 but ideally cd 2 would have came out in week 2 to steady the ship up a bit with sales.

Posted by: slowdown73 Jun 4 2020, 11:00 PM

The bonus tracks would certainly have helped it reach a better position. I have a few questions which I wonder if anyone knows. Why was time will pass you by shelved as a single? It was planned as the 4th single and wand did a remix. Also, was dangerous game ever within a chance of being a single? I read if I was your lover was possibly penned for an American single release.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 5 2020, 12:47 AM

I think the 4th single was cancelled due to the under performance of Where is the Feeling and the label lost confidence, it wasnt helped that put yourself in my place had also previously missed the Top 10.

Posted by: Nina West Jun 5 2020, 06:26 AM

QUOTE(slowdown73 @ Jun 5 2020, 12:00 AM) *
The bonus tracks would certainly have helped it reach a better position. I have a few questions which I wonder if anyone knows. Why was time will pass you by shelved as a single? It was planned as the 4th single and wand did a remix. Also, was dangerous game ever within a chance of being a single? I read if I was your lover was possibly penned for an American single release.


"Time Will Pass You By" was scrapped in favour of her collaboration with Nick Cave, which got released in late '95 (the same time "TWPYB" would have. Despite having remixes commissioned for it. However what probably killed any chance it had was lack of public attention towards the album by this point as well as like you said the lacklustre performance of "WITF".

"If I Was Your Lover" was planned as the 2nd single in the USA, then everywhere else if successful, but the contract fell through due to the U.S. label going bankrupt, leaving all plans for any possible American release cancelled.

As for "Dangerous Game", don't think it was ever one of the tracks in consideration for release.



Posted by: pippa Jun 5 2020, 10:14 AM

The campaign was very much stop and start after Put Yourself in My Place that killed the chances of success for the singles.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 5 2020, 10:40 AM

Kylie taking the break for doing the film really didnt help the cause at all.

Posted by: pippa Jun 6 2020, 03:23 PM

No it did not and by the time Kylie had become involved in the era again the ship had sailed with the public.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jun 6 2020, 04:44 PM

Ya the 8 month gap for 3rd single killed it and the fact the single had such a completely lukewarm reception ended it.

Posted by: hexschofield Jul 18 2020, 09:23 PM

I adore this album so much - one of Kylie's strongest records and what a record to release after PWL

1) Confide In Me - A confident track - grown up and strong - those strings - Kylie's vocals a whole new level is achieved hear
2) Put Yourself In My Place - That video - oh yes - this is super strong track and I love it
3) Where Is The Feeling - I adore this song too - Album version is better has time to get into you
4) *Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave) - I think I am must be the only Kylie fan not to revel in this song - I don't like it that much and often skip it

Posted by: pippa Jul 18 2020, 09:32 PM

Where The Wild Roses Grow is an understandable diversity of opinion with it been a very different single to everything in Kylies catalogue

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jul 18 2020, 10:25 PM

WTWRG is strange in that many non kylie fans like it, many kylie fans dont rate it all that high and other fans like myself love it.

Posted by: pippa Jul 18 2020, 10:48 PM

Where The Wild Roses Grow remains stunning and creative and helped Kylie develop her career and direction.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Jul 19 2020, 01:00 AM

Hugely important song to kylie, its good that its sales have improved over the years making its sales more respectable. I'm assuming its nick caves best selling single.

Posted by: HausofGhibli Jul 28 2020, 04:56 PM

Confide In Me
Put Yourself In My Place
Where Is The Feeling
Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave)

Posted by: Liam.k. Aug 11 2020, 04:25 AM

QUOTE(HausofGhibli @ Jul 28 2020, 05:56 PM) *
Confide In Me
Put Yourself In My Place
Where Is The Feeling
Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave)

Same as me, using the album version of 'Where is the Feeling' though. The video mix would place bottom, although I do quite like it.



This was the version played by radio and was performed (lip-synced) on the Steve Wright's People Show as part of the promotion. It's basically an edited down, dancier version of the song that appears on the album.

Posted by: Nina West Aug 11 2020, 08:20 PM

If "Time Will Pass You By" got released as the 4th single like planned, then my ranking would be...

01. Confide In Me
02. Put Yourself In My Place
03. Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave)
04. Time Will Pass You By*
05. Where Is The Feeling


* "TWPYB", Such a missed opportunity & if released as the 3rd single in early '95 or even in the summer of that year, it could have kept the momentum going with the album (maybe it could have climbed back into the charts), as well as showing some diversity, after the down-tempo first 2 singles with this uplifting dance anthem. Okay if released after 'WITF', (again shows a different side to the album), but the general public didn't warm to it as not only did it come 8 months after the last single, it got a very uncommercial remix & therefore pretty much marked the end of the era. Although I'm not sure how 'TWPYB' would have fared but with some promo & a BANGING music video, it may have stood a chance, or at the very least given Kylie another top 20 hit.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 11 2020, 11:30 PM

Time will pass you by should have been 3rd single but quickly released after put yourself in my place, that gap in 2nd and 3rd single was a disaster and where is the feeling as 3rd made it even worse.

Posted by: pippa Aug 12 2020, 12:37 PM

Confide In Me.
Put Yourself in My Place.
Time Will Pass You By.
Dangerous Game.

The singles in that order at regular intervals for singles at that time would have attracted more interest in the album.

Posted by: Nina West Aug 12 2020, 08:01 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Aug 12 2020, 01:37 PM) *
Confide In Me.
Put Yourself in My Place.
Time Will Pass You By.
Dangerous Game.

The singles in that order at regular intervals for singles at that time would have attracted more interest in the album.



That's would have been a perfect run, although I'd switch the positions of 'TWPYP' & 'DG', as the former would have closed the era with a BANG (in my opinion).

How the artworks might have looked: (keep the official 'CIM' & 'PYIMP' covers)



Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 12 2020, 08:27 PM

I dont think put yourself in my place and dangerous game would have worked back to back with it 2 slow songs so time will pass you by in the middle would have kept the uptempo style of the album going.

Posted by: pippa Aug 12 2020, 10:47 PM

Where is The Feeling was a very bad choice when songs of greater strength were available.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 13 2020, 03:08 PM

I think Kylie could have pulled off a 5th single if she had worked with a feature artist who was big at the time, if the 4 singles had gone ahead and kylie was keeping the promotion trail going in full swing there was room for real potential with the album and its overall success.

Posted by: JackJones Aug 13 2020, 11:11 PM

1. Where The Wild Roses Grow (ft Nick Cave)

2. Confide In Me

3. Put Yourself In My Place
4. Where Is The Feeling

Posted by: pippa Aug 15 2020, 08:54 AM

Kylie needed to have been more committed to the album and it's promotion.
Doing the film was the wrong time and choice which negatively affected the album.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Aug 15 2020, 01:36 PM

I was always surprised she got her time schedule so wrong then, it really was all so badly timed

Posted by: pippa Aug 16 2020, 01:50 PM

As it was on many levels a pivitol release, Kylie needed 100 % commitment to the project which did not happen.

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