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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Pop _ Shameless / Liar | 2nd / 3rd singles

Posted by: Cqmerqn 2nd August 2019, 06:27 AM

The lead for CC2 is out August 29th 2019!

Posted by: SGrey 2nd August 2019, 07:16 AM

This is so much sooner than expected!!!! ohmy.gif

Do we think Q4 release for the album?

Posted by: George.keh 2nd August 2019, 08:17 AM

With Senorita still riding high could this have less impact?

Posted by: Jαsє 2nd August 2019, 03:15 PM

omg I'm SO hyped. When she delivers she REALLY delivers!

Posted by: JosephAvery 2nd August 2019, 09:53 PM

Already?! Wow ohmy.gif I cannot wait!!!

Posted by: Jonjo 2nd August 2019, 10:05 PM

I actually think it's quite a good release date! Although it wouldn't be falling, I imagine 'Senorita' would have peaked by that point and won't overshadow this too much!

SO excited to hear it. Would love some more reggaeton from her. Not an exact copy of 'Havana' but like a growth of it. I feel like this next era will really help her become top tier pop artist.

Posted by: BigMixer 3rd August 2019, 04:50 PM

Can't wait to hear it! Hoping it smashes!

Posted by: UltraME! 3rd August 2019, 04:59 PM

Is this out the 23rd or 29th?

Posted by: George.keh 4th August 2019, 09:22 PM

Camila’s latest Instagram post suggests something exciting is coming soon dance.gif

Posted by: Jack 4th August 2019, 11:15 PM

Camila was honestly such a great debit album, I have high hopes for this! I always get scared for my fave pop girlies releasing new songs chart wise though sad.gif I've got a feeling it could easily go the other way in terms of success.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 7th August 2019, 08:29 PM

Really hyped and excited for this.

Hope it’s a pure Camila song with nobody else on it though.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 7th August 2019, 08:47 PM

QUOTE(Jack @ Aug 5 2019, 12:15 AM) *
Camila was honestly such a great debit album, I have high hopes for this! I always get scared for my fave pop girlies releasing new songs chart wise though sad.gif I've got a feeling it could easily go the other way in terms of success.

I’d be very surprised if this didn’t smash hard!

Posted by: Juan Carlos 14th August 2019, 03:36 AM

Reportedly to be called "Shameless". The music video has been shot.

Posted by: Mixxer 14th August 2019, 03:44 PM

it sounds great, the chorus reminds me of Ariana's Bad Idea and I love that song heart.gif

Posted by: Voodoo 16th August 2019, 10:35 AM

QUOTE(Juan Carlos @ Aug 14 2019, 06:36 AM) *
Reportedly to be called "Shameless". The music video has been shot.

A cover of this? w00t.gif


Posted by: SGrey 16th August 2019, 06:56 PM

Interesting title ohmy.gif

Posted by: Juliano 17th August 2019, 05:44 PM

Listening to the recording the paparazzi got from her car, it sounds rather good from that very quiet LQ snippet.

Posted by: JosephStyles 26th August 2019, 05:44 PM



Performing on SNL on 12th October! Guests perform 2 songs so we should have another new song by then too ohmy.gif

Posted by: Jack 26th August 2019, 09:31 PM

I wonder if she'll go for the two song tactic again like she did with I Have Questions/Crying In The Club, Havana/OMG and Never Be The Same/Real Friends ?

Posted by: SGrey 30th August 2019, 06:11 AM

She’s updated her social media as well!

Posted by: George.keh 31st August 2019, 10:55 AM


Posted by: Juan Carlos 31st August 2019, 05:58 PM

There's a rumour that she's doing a dual release again.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 31st August 2019, 08:39 PM

Yesssss the 5H Queen is back to show the others what star quality and power is!

3rd #1 incoming

Posted by: Cqmerqn 1st September 2019, 12:11 AM

There’s a Latin song and an “Avril Lavigne inspired” song. Both out on Thursday!

Posted by: lewistgreen 1st September 2019, 09:25 AM


Posted by: George.keh 1st September 2019, 11:23 AM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Sep 1 2019, 01:11 AM) *
There’s a Latin song and an “Avril Lavigne inspired” song. Both out on Thursday!

Wonder which one will be pushed? biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jordan Lee 1st September 2019, 01:02 PM

QUOTE(George.keh @ Sep 1 2019, 12:23 PM) *
Wonder which one will be pushed? biggrin.gif


If the Latin song is entirely Spanish then the other one will probably get the UK push but if it’s Latin inspired like Havana and Senorita then maybes that will get the push.

Hope she comes back hard though. She’s got so much star quality about her.

Posted by: Juan Carlos 2nd September 2019, 09:49 PM

QUOTE(Juan Carlos @ Aug 31 2019, 12:58 PM) *
There's a rumour that she's doing a dual release again.
Pretty much confirmed at this point.



Posted by: Juan Carlos 4th September 2019, 01:42 PM

She confirmed that "Shameless" will be out tomorrow at 8am. ET / 1pm. BST, so I assume this is going to be the song to be pushed as a single, while "Liar" is going to be a promotional, unless plans are changed, of course.


Posted by: WhoOdyssey 4th September 2019, 02:00 PM

bass

Posted by: SGrey 5th September 2019, 05:45 AM

The snippet of Liar has a nice Latin vibe with trumpets!

Posted by: Cremey 5th September 2019, 12:00 PM

LIAR is irresistible.
Shameless is great too, that production 👌🏼

Posted by: Cremey 5th September 2019, 12:12 PM

Shameless is quite BANKS-esque in places. In love.

Posted by: Theonix 5th September 2019, 12:32 PM

Oh these are both excellent! I was worried one would be head and shoulders above the other but both are on par with other and neither are carbon copies of her previous songs. Very impressed!

Posted by: LewisGT 5th September 2019, 12:38 PM






Absolutely loving both of these on first listen. Really good video for Shameless too biggrin.gif

This might just be her strongest double-release to date.

Posted by: HarryEzra 5th September 2019, 01:23 PM

Both are very great I prefer Liar on first listen but both are fanstasticly done!! I'm so hyped for this era wub.gif

Posted by: ElectroBoy 5th September 2019, 02:14 PM

Liar is a bop

Posted by: Cqmerqn 5th September 2019, 04:19 PM

Not entirely sure on Shameless, but sounds like a grower! I love that Camila just KNOWS her sound now! Either one of these singles will obviously be huge though!

Posted by: Cqmerqn 5th September 2019, 04:23 PM

Just finished listening to Liar. It’s so bad! I’m glad that Shameless is the single.

Posted by: Liаm 5th September 2019, 05:09 PM

Liar goes OFF, it's got flecks of the debut era so that it feels like her but it's a progression as well so it's not just a carbon copy resting on what worked before. Shameless I think is more of a grower but I like it a fair bit on first listen anyway!

Either one is a great choice of single, both commercial enough but they're a bit different to what's in the charts.

Posted by: Wall 5th September 2019, 05:13 PM

Shameless isn’t very good, her voice really grates on me and the song itself isn’t very memorable but it will no doubt be a worldwide smash. I prefer Liar but that’s not very good either.

Posted by: Wall 5th September 2019, 05:13 PM

Liar is much much higher on TTH

Posted by: Jonjo 5th September 2019, 05:33 PM

I wasn't paying enough attention on first listen, so I felt kinda underwhelmed with them both. However, listening to them and giving them my full undivided attention through my headphones, I really like them both.

Shameless is my fave of the 2 I think. The production is stellar!! It low-key reminds me of Lovestoned by Justin Timberlake! Especially the strumming sorta sound.

The chorus to Liar gives me Ace of Base in 2019 vibes! Kinda Clean Bandit-y too!

Posted by: Liаm 5th September 2019, 05:38 PM

The sax on Liar gives me Istanbul (Not Constantinople) teas rotf.gif

Posted by: George.keh 5th September 2019, 05:56 PM

Really love the both of them! Shameless gives me a musical continuation of NBTS, whilst Liar gives me more She Loves Control than anything else. Can see either being hits for her honestly

Posted by: LMLou 5th September 2019, 06:27 PM

I find both of these incredible, kinda wish she released them separately so they both had a chance to be big hits

Posted by: Frenchie 5th September 2019, 06:31 PM

On first listen I really like ‘Liar’, can already feel the chorus getting stuck in my head. ‘Shameless’ I’m unsure about, will need more listens to fully decide, think there might be too much going on. Overall not what I was expecting but really good. Also I think she pulls off the double single release really well, I’ve never liked it when other artist do it.

Posted by: Juan Carlos 5th September 2019, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Sep 5 2019, 12:33 PM) *
The chorus to Liar gives me Ace of Base in 2019 vibes! Kinda Clean Bandit-y too!
FYI, it samples "All That She Wants" and "All Night Long (All Night)". The members of Ace of Base and Lionel Richie have writing credits in the song.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 5th September 2019, 09:26 PM

Shameless is definitely the best of the two for me.

Liars like She Loves Control 2.0.

Liar will be the bigger hit though I think.

Posted by: Juliano 5th September 2019, 09:34 PM

I like both, think Liar was more instant for me.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 5th September 2019, 11:08 PM

Spotify new music Friday uk

Liar #5
Shameless #58

mellow.gif

Posted by: Cody Burnett 6th September 2019, 12:20 AM

I caught the Ace Of Base sample in Liar but was completely taken aback by the Lionel Richie one!

Both tracks are good, I think on first listen I prefer Shameless but we’ll see what ends up happening. Can’t both songs just be pushed?

Posted by: Jay ☆ 6th September 2019, 12:27 AM

On first listen I much prefer Liar to Shameless. I like the latter, I'm sure it'll grow on me more. Liar is so much more instant though, love at first listen! The samples... so catchy!

Posted by: Cornelia Street 6th September 2019, 01:14 AM

Liar is already growing on me so quick!! LOVE.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 6th September 2019, 01:59 AM

And Shameless is growing on me!

Both great songs *.*

Posted by: Bré 6th September 2019, 02:02 AM

Ooh I like 'Shameless' quite a bit xx (her vox on the chorus are a little overboard but I was already getting used to that by the end of the song lol ~ I am a fan of everything else in it, really loving the dark sounding production).

'Liar' is k too but not really one I am desperate to go back to. 'Shameless' to be ha hit pls

Posted by: Juan Carlos 6th September 2019, 05:08 AM

I prefer "Shameless" over "Liar". Her vocals are a little off on both songs, although I think they could eventually grow on me.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 6th September 2019, 08:05 AM

I prefer Liar over Shameless personally . Liar feels more like her where as on Shameless her voice grates quite a bit on me and it almost feels like she’s trying to sing like someone else

Posted by: Jack 6th September 2019, 01:27 PM

Why have I got a bad feeling this isn't going to do well? sad.gif

Maybe I just presume that because most big female releases do poorly these days.

Posted by: Spiceboy 6th September 2019, 02:38 PM

I prefer Liar love the bat more of a Latin infusion to it

Posted by: Wall 7th September 2019, 03:26 AM

The singles haven’t really performed as well on iTunes as what I thought they would and I believe the Spotify streaming figures will be underwhelming too.

Posted by: SGrey 7th September 2019, 08:27 AM

Liar on first listen is okay but I hate the accent she’s putting on and her diction needs improving.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 7th September 2019, 01:00 PM

Both tracks missed the UK Spotify top 50

And I oop

Posted by: Wall 7th September 2019, 01:03 PM

I think Liar will have missed the top 100 altogether

And I further oop

Posted by: JosephStyles 7th September 2019, 03:04 PM

QUOTE(Wall @ Sep 7 2019, 02:03 PM) *
I think Liar will have missed the top 100 altogether

And I further oop

> both songs are top 100, Liar #57 and Shameless #92

and I oop

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 7th September 2019, 03:05 PM

Omfg a double a side in 2019?

Posted by: Jordan Lee 7th September 2019, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Sep 7 2019, 04:04 PM) *
> both songs are top 100, Liar #57 and Shameless #92

and I oop


I presume Post has 17 tracks in the top 50 though 14 of which won’t be charting officially so it’s not quite as bad as it looks.

Posted by: George.keh 7th September 2019, 04:53 PM

I think with playlist support they both will pick up and gain some radio traction

Posted by: LewisGT 11th September 2019, 07:11 PM

Liar video is coming tonight so I guess they're definitely pushing that one now.



View this post on Instagram

Posted by: George.keh 11th September 2019, 07:15 PM

QUOTE(LewisGT @ Sep 11 2019, 08:11 PM) *
Liar video is coming tonight so I guess they're definitely pushing that one now.
View this post on Instagram

BUDGET

Posted by: Jordan Lee 11th September 2019, 10:05 PM

Yessss to them both getting videos wub.gif

Liar I feel will take off

Posted by: George.keh 12th September 2019, 12:16 PM

Kinda confused at the video but like I said BUDGET

Posted by: Jonjo 12th September 2019, 03:23 PM

The video is really good. So fun!

Posted by: Jordan Lee 13th September 2019, 11:30 AM

Camila is pretty solid at her solo artist videos!

She’s very captivating and a pretty good actress too.

I can totally see her getting film roles in the future she’s perfect for a chick flick / romantic comedy type role.


Liar is growing on me now so I’m happy for that to take off wub.gif

Posted by: Frenchie 13th September 2019, 11:36 AM

This video seems much more her than the 'Shameless' one. Deffo think 'Liar' will be the bigger hit in the end.

Posted by: LMLou 13th September 2019, 12:00 PM

After watching the video and listening to it more I’m pretty sure I prefer Liar now.
I can see it being a Crying In The Club sized hit

Posted by: Cqmerqn 13th September 2019, 08:47 PM

Liar debuts at #38
Shameless debuts at #50

Major oops

Posted by: JosephStyles 13th September 2019, 11:25 PM

That's fine - Liar is her highest debut as a lead. Senorita is the only song as a solo artist that's debuted higher (and quite frankly, it will easily remain the bigger hit anyway, plus the name power). She Loves Control is her only other top 40 debut weirdly!

Posted by: Mixxer 14th September 2019, 03:27 PM

Still confident Liar will pull through and be a hit.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 14th September 2019, 03:57 PM

Camilas done fine to get a top 40 debut.

I think she might’ve had a top 25 debut had there just been one release last week.

I definitely don’t think Liar will keep its #38 peak though I can see it taking off.

Posted by: dannjohn 14th September 2019, 04:16 PM

Interesting how they posted that kissing video the same day she drops the ‘liar’ video

Posted by: SGrey 15th September 2019, 06:25 AM

The Liar video is a mash up of Blank Space and Havana. It’s growing on me!

Posted by: Bré 15th September 2019, 11:07 PM

The video for 'Liar' is way better than the actual song.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 16th September 2019, 07:40 PM

Billboard Hot 100

#56 Liar
#60 Shameless

That’s TRAGIC

Posted by: JosephStyles 16th September 2019, 08:17 PM

It's not tragic and I think that's a massive overreaction - bear in mind that radio are splitting their attention between two songs instead of spamming the one. I think pushing two singles at radio is a bold move - not even Ed Sheeran did that in the US with Shape / Castle.

Posted by: LMLou 16th September 2019, 08:53 PM

Also worth noting Post Malone likely has about 10-12 album tacks above that so they would've both made top 50 without that. Liar also didn't have really any video streams count this week so it should hold up ok next week.
They actually debuted higher than I was expecting

Posted by: Jordan Lee 16th September 2019, 10:42 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Sep 16 2019, 08:40 PM) *
Billboard Hot 100

#56 Liar
#60 Shameless

That’s TRAGIC


Where did Havana debut at just for a compare?

I don’t think it’s too bad tbh it’s unlikely that’ll be the tracks peak (well in Liars case).

And the three track rule isn’t a thing there is it?

It’s disappointing but hopefully she’ll still get a big hit 😇

Posted by: George.keh 23rd September 2019, 09:20 PM

QUOTE(Jordan Lee @ Sep 16 2019, 11:42 PM) *
Where did Havana debut at just for a compare?

I don’t think it’s too bad tbh it’s unlikely that’ll be the tracks peak (well in Liars case).

And the three track rule isn’t a thing there is it?

It’s disappointing but hopefully she’ll still get a big hit 😇

Debuted at 99 in US with OMG outpeaking it originally at 81!!!!

Posted by: Wall 24th September 2019, 03:06 PM

I honestly can’t see either single troubling the top 20 in the UK.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 28th September 2019, 09:02 AM

Chart runs in the UK

Liar: 38-39-38

Shameless: 50-73-91

Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th September 2019, 10:09 AM

This really should be her last *throw out 2 songs at the same time* moment in her career. Just pick a song and fully commit!

I would have gone with Liar by itself first, and then saved Shameless to impact in January, perhaps.

Posted by: Mack. 30th September 2019, 03:45 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Sep 28 2019, 10:02 AM) *
Chart runs in the UK

Liar: 38-39-38

Shameless: 50-73-91

Not really the chart run that Camila would have wanted with these two.


Posted by: Cqmerqn 30th September 2019, 08:59 PM

Liar down to 55 in the US this week too

Posted by: Mack. 7th October 2019, 02:21 PM

Well it managed to climb up a little for 'Liar' up to #35 from #38 last week.


Posted by: Wall 9th October 2019, 10:00 PM

She’s on Graham Norton on Friday.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 11th October 2019, 12:16 AM

I seen that!

Guessing Liar will be performed which should hopefully get it top ten on iTUNES.

Posted by: Jonjo 13th October 2019, 09:34 PM

WHY TF DID THEY NOT GET HER TO PERFORM LIAR ON SNL!? WTF IS GOING ON WITH HER TEAM!?

Posted by: Jordan Lee 18th October 2019, 03:40 PM

Liar is #21 in the UK

It’s climbed a few places for four weeks in a row now when we get our G Norton performance of this it should hopefully push it top 20.

It’s climb this week seems to be helped that a lot of songs above it all fell to ACR on the same week there’s a lot of big drops this week of top 10/20 songs last week.

Posted by: Jack 18th October 2019, 05:55 PM

Help 'Shameless' and 'Liar' in Record Of The Year - http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=226744

Posted by: George.keh 27th October 2019, 07:19 PM

Performance on Graham Norton was superb

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