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30th May 2019, 06:44 PM
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With Barry Gardiner on for Labour, it looks like one of those rare occasions when the Tory isn't the dimmest member of the panel. Interesting that Jo Swinson is also on, so that's two people with their minds on a leadership election. Should be an interesting watch. Think I'll stay up. |
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30th May 2019, 06:50 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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Is Lyla Moran not fav for the Liberals? She seems very intelligent. Lovely too.
I like Gardiner for some reason! |
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30th May 2019, 06:51 PM
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30th May 2019, 07:19 PM
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Disappointing.
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30th May 2019, 07:44 PM
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WINTER IS COMING
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So in recent days Rory Stewart has been performing a pretty excellent social media campaign and tour of the UK placing himself as a somewhat eccentric but approachable character who’s willing to compromise, listen and fix. Now this is casting him as the Tory for people who don’t vote Tory, unsurprisingly, and he has very little support from MPs but I do think he’d be a pretty savvy pick. And at least one of the candidates isn’t terrible in how they are presenting themselves even if his vote record is typical Tory whip-mandated. Meanwhile Sajid Javid is busy being the most popular man in Scotland. Whoever his team are, they are doing a really good job imo. Before a week ago people had barely heard of him compared to a lot of the Leadership candidates. His issue will of course be he supports a soft Brexit which is MPs are not keen on. But he's doing a good job at de-Toryising himself, can't see him being elected but he's doing a better job than I thought he would. Think Boris is finished now. Serves him right. I'm surprised Gove gets away with it though... |
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30th May 2019, 07:50 PM
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I saw the video with him speaking about why a No Deal Brexit will be disastrous and why WTO is not something to aim for. Whilst a no deal is clearly bad, his argument is one of the most articulate and strongly put and helped provide some form of sanity to this whole thing.
Of course you do then have the video of him pretending to be holding the camera and I think his voting history isn’t too impressive, but then which Tory’s is? |
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30th May 2019, 08:13 PM
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Rory is definitely the least problematic of the candidates...but can we just have a general election lmao
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30th May 2019, 08:19 PM
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Rory is definitely the least problematic of the candidates...but can we just have a general election lmao It's interesting with his voting record though. He's clearly a eurosceptic, but maybe like Boris he's realised that sometimes you can do against your idelogies to get to the greater good. I am OK with a softer Brexit as I thought this would be the sensible decision rather than some wacko-WTO shizzle. Of course right now our democracy seems to be it's either all or nothing in terms of the electorate, so going for the middle option doesn't seem to be appealing. |
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30th May 2019, 08:20 PM
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Disappointing. She's still young, so she may well stand in a future election. Going back to the Tory contest, if Johnson doesn't make it, I can see him stepping down at the next election. That would be a pity as it would be far more entertaining to see him lose his seat. |
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30th May 2019, 09:03 PM
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Do we all agree that if Boris doesn't make it this time then this is his last shot at becoming leader/PM?
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30th May 2019, 09:04 PM
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She's still young, so she may well stand in a future election. Going back to the Tory contest, if Johnson doesn't make it, I can see him stepping down at the next election. That would be a pity as it would be far more entertaining to see him lose his seat. What will he do for an income though? You can't just leave a job unless you have another. |
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30th May 2019, 09:07 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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30th May 2019, 09:08 PM
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30th May 2019, 09:11 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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He makes considerable money from his books and Daily Telegraph column, if my last inquisitive look at the Register of Interests serves me correctly. It somewhat did - in the last two weeks alone, he earned £30k - £25,000 from giving a 2 1/2 speech to a private bank, and the rest are book royalties. |
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30th May 2019, 09:11 PM
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What will he do for an income though? You can't just leave a job unless you have another. He earns £275,000 a year for a weekly column in The Telegraph, a lot of money from talks and I’m sure he has investments etc and someone will easily snap him up for some top job. I don’t think he has anything to worry about. Most MPs have fingers in other pies, Boris has a lot of pies. |
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30th May 2019, 09:12 PM
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Shakin Stevens
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People thought that about Churchill in 1929!
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30th May 2019, 09:14 PM
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He earns £275,000 a year for a weekly column in The Telegraph, a lot of money from talks and I’m sure he has investments etc and someone will easily snap him up for some top job. I don’t think he has anything to worry about. Most MPs have fingers in other pies, Boris has a lot of pies. Well he is selling one house so cash in the bank for that but also has a divorce settlement to come. |
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30th May 2019, 09:26 PM
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He earns £275,000 a year for a weekly column in The Telegraph, a lot of money from talks and I’m sure he has investments etc and someone will easily snap him up for some top job. I don’t think he has anything to worry about. Most MPs have fingers in other pies, Boris has a lot of pies. I think you mean "He is paid £275,000..." |
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30th May 2019, 09:43 PM
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Lol people don't become MPs for the salary, it is about the prestige, power and opportunities that come with it. I'm sure Johnson has some money tied up in gold somewhere that will become a lot more profitable if the UK leave the EU with No Deal, same as the majority of the ERG.
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30th May 2019, 10:05 PM
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Lol people don't become MPs for the salary, it is about the prestige, power and opportunities that come with it. I'm sure Johnson has some money tied up in gold somewhere that will become a lot more profitable if the UK leave the EU with No Deal, same as the majority of the ERG. I will ask him next time I see him shopping in Oxford Street and report back to you. This post has been edited by Common Sense: 30th May 2019, 10:06 PM |
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