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crazy chris
post 2nd November 2019, 04:53 PM
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Strange how the only two Brexiteers who post in here get called trolls. Sad really as it means you've lost the argument when you stoop to name calling.
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post 2nd November 2019, 04:57 PM
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No, it means we have lost the will to keep telling you the same thing over and over again, while you respond to nothing that you cannot argue about
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post 2nd November 2019, 05:08 PM
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If you knowingly make a significant statement without justifying your reasons for that statement and refusing to do so, it highlights the likely reason behind the statement was to provoke people. Knowingly provoking people is trolling.

Time and time again, there is no justification behind significant statements and opinions.
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post 2nd November 2019, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(Klaus @ Nov 2 2019, 05:08 PM) *
If you knowingly make a significant statement without justifying your reasons for that statement and refusing to do so, it highlights the likely reason behind the statement was to provoke people. Knowingly provoking people is trolling.

Time and time again, there is no justification behind significant statements and opinions.



I am a supporter of Brexit and have given you the two main reasons why I voted out. If you choose to disagree with them that doesn't alter those being the reasons, one in particular from people I know, that caused a lot of people to vote leave. If You've forgotten it begins with an I.


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post 2nd November 2019, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 2 2019, 05:13 PM) *
I am a supporter of Brexit and have given you the two main reasons why I voted out. If you choose to disagree with them that doesn't alter those being the reasons, one in particular from people I know, that caused a lot of people to vote leave. If You've forgotten it begins with an I.





And if you've forgotten, I've already told you that it won't go down after Brexit.
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post 2nd November 2019, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Nov 2 2019, 05:27 PM) *
And if you've forgotten, I've already told you that it won't go down after Brexit.



Do you have a crystal ball like Mystic Meg?
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post 2nd November 2019, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 2 2019, 05:59 PM) *
Do you have a crystal ball like Mystic Meg?



How many bloody times!

A. There are way too many jobs(healthcare, supported living, agriculture etc) that British people simply do not in significant numbers. Somebody is going to have to do those jobs.

B. Any trade deal that the UK does with emerging powerhouses(China, India etc) WILL include relaxed immigration and visa rules for their citizens and we WILL say yes to it because we will be the ones that need the additional trade trade(e.g. negotiating from a point of weakness having just left a trading bloc of 27.

C. Most of them will work a damn site harder than you ever have in your life!

Just because you don´t like that, and chose to ignore it doesn´t mean it won´t happen!


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post 2nd November 2019, 06:56 PM
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Made a little last minute edit to my last post, thought it was a bit mean, even for me!
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post 2nd November 2019, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Nov 2 2019, 06:53 PM) *
C. Most of them will work a damn site harder than you ever have in your life, yet you waste life lazing around at home and judging hard working tax paying people!



Again, it's a sure sign of desperation when you have to bring my personal life in to the Brexit debate when it has nothing whatsoever to do with it. I'm not in the job market due to ill health.
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post 2nd November 2019, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Nov 2 2019, 06:56 PM) *
Made a little last minute edit to my last post, thought it was a bit mean, even for me!



LOL. It's water off a duck's back to me so feel free to say what you like.


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post 2nd November 2019, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 2 2019, 06:58 PM) *
Again, it's a sure sign of desperation when you have to bring my personal life in to the Brexit debate when it has nothing whatsoever to do with it. I'm not in the job market due to ill health.



I´ve got nothing to feel desperate about thanks.

Frustration? Absolutely. Frustration that you have had something demonstrated to you over and over again(i.e. Immigration will not go down) but you continually refer to it like a brainwashed hamster stuck on its wheel.

You even said the other day that you concede that Brexit may not even make your life any better, yet you still want it, and the economic turmoil it will cause for many.

So frustration? Absolutely.
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post 2nd November 2019, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(mald487 @ Nov 2 2019, 07:05 PM) *
You even said the other day that you concede that Brexit may not even make your life any better, yet you still want it, and the economic turmoil it will cause for many.


I think you're still confusing no deal Brexit with a managed deal Brexit. Yes I concede that the former may cause problems but not with a good deal like Boris's.


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post 2nd November 2019, 08:03 PM
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You’ve been telt 50 times it’s a f***ing shite deal. Open your damn eyes ffs and read the details and take the time to understand the impact. It’s a garbage deal designed purely to allow us to crash out with no deal at the end of the transition.

Stop being such a gullible old fool and start listening to what we’re saying again and again and again.
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post 2nd November 2019, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Nov 2 2019, 08:03 PM) *
You’ve been telt 50 times it’s a f***ing shite deal. Open your damn eyes ffs and read the details and take the time to understand the impact. It’s a garbage deal designed purely to allow us to crash out with no deal at the end of the transition.

Stop being such a gullible old fool and start listening to what we’re saying again and again and again.



So what deal would you like? Oh I know. None at all and we stay in. Well tough. The electorate voted by almost a 4% majority to leave and thankfully that's what Boris will do.
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post 2nd November 2019, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 2 2019, 08:10 PM) *
So what deal would you like? Oh I know. None at all and we stay in. Well tough. The electorate voted by almost a 4% majority to leave and thankfully that's what Boris will do.

That’s a real mature answer that. Well done.

Grow up, this is our future. If we have to leave I want the deal we were repeatedly promised during the campaign - EEA/EFTA membership remaining in both the Single Market and the Customs Union
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post 2nd November 2019, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 2 2019, 08:10 PM) *
So what deal would you like? Oh I know. None at all and we stay in. Well tough. The electorate voted by almost a 4% majority to leave and thankfully that's what Boris will do.



No. I´d like a deal that see´s us transition out of the EU, respecting the vote of 2016, but also recognizes that it was a wafer thin majority and maintains strong and diplomatic ties with our closest geographical neighbors in the interest of security and trade at least.

P.S. Boris doesn´t care about you for the 5,334,242th time.


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post 2nd November 2019, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Nov 2 2019, 08:15 PM) *
That’s a real mature answer that. Well done.

Grow up, this is our future. If we have to leave I want the deal we were repeatedly promised during the campaign - EEA/EFTA membership remaining in both the Single Market and the Customs Union



That's too much like just remaining in though. No point leaving. We need a clean break. Like when you drop a mug and it becomes two pieces only.
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post 2nd November 2019, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 2 2019, 08:23 PM) *
That's too much like just remaining in though. No point leaving. We need a clean break. Like when you drop a mug and it becomes two pieces only.

What is the benefit of NOT trading with 27 countries that are geographically the closest to our country?
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post 2nd November 2019, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(Freddie Kruger @ Nov 2 2019, 08:23 PM) *
That's too much like just remaining in though. No point leaving. We need a clean break. Like when you drop a mug and it becomes two pieces only.

Then you need a new mandate for that. That is explicitly the opposite from what was promised during the referendum. You can’t claim to have the will of the people on your side if you’re doing something that is what you told them would never happen

It’s also dumb as shit but that’s beside the point
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post 2nd November 2019, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Nov 2 2019, 08:29 PM) *
Then you need a new mandate for that. That is explicitly the opposite from what was promised during the referendum. You can’t claim to have the will of the people on your side if you’re doing something that is what you told them would never happen

It’s also dumb as shit but that’s beside the point



I don't think those who voted leave are too bothered how we leave though so long as we do. Certainly the few I know couldn't care less so long as we're out as soon as possible.


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