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post 12th July 2023, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Jul 12 2023, 11:10 PM) *
I’m shocked to see a large percentage of the country defending a rumoured pedophile.

You’re jumping to a lot of conclusions there. What evidence do you have that the parents are homophobic? Or that Huw hasn’t been in contact with him since he was 17?


You have made numerous statements, in this very thread, that are quite literally jumping to conclusions without any evidence.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Jul 13 2023, 12:10 AM) *
I’m shocked to see a large percentage of the country defending a rumoured pedophile.

You’re jumping to a lot of conclusions there. What evidence do you have that the parents are homophobic? Or that Huw hasn’t been in contact with him since he was 17?


The irony of us jumping to conclusions. You don't even know what a peadophile is. I don't think anybody in this thread has said the parents are homophobic. Do you actually read? You seem to live in your own make believe world.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:17 PM
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There’s his parents word for a start and a number of other young boys claiming to have been contacted by him to back it up.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(J00prstar @ Jul 13 2023, 12:06 AM) *
I asked a direct question in the hope that you didn't mean to imply that and/or would walk it back when someone pointed it out to you.

ANYWAY. Besides that there is zero evidence that any of what you are claiming happened actually happened, apart from what has been pulled up by a paper that we know is institutionally homphobic off the back of the say so of an estranged mother and stepfather who want to make a quick buck out of their adult child's career choices that they disagree with/disapprove of. I'm sure this whole thing wasn't a crock of shit cooked up by two homophobes...


It was in response to this
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post 12th July 2023, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jul 13 2023, 12:16 AM) *
The irony of us jumping to conclusions. You don't even know what a peadophile is. I don't think anybody in this thread has said the parents are homophobic. Do you actually read? You seem to live in your own make believe world.


Pedophile, ephebophile, they’re all the same to me


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post 12th July 2023, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jul 13 2023, 12:16 AM) *
The irony of us jumping to conclusions. You don't even know what a peadophile is. I don't think anybody in this thread has said the parents are homophobic. Do you actually read? You seem to live in your own make believe world.


To be fair Rooney I did theorise that. It just smacks of it to me. The fact that the articles, none of the articles, have said outright a reason for why the mother and the stepfather are estranged from their child, who is by the way a crazy queer sex worker drug addict who gets involved with older men, just suggests some kind of prejudice there to me because it deliberately conflates all those things as part and parcel of being gay and as something that the 'poor parents' did everything in their power to stop.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Jul 12 2023, 11:17 PM) *
There’s his parents word for a start and a number of other young boys claiming to have been contacted by him to back it up.


You know exactly what you’re doing with that framing.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(J00prstar @ Jul 13 2023, 12:24 AM) *
To be fair Rooney I did theorise that. It just smacks of it to me. The fact that the articles, none of the articles, have said outright a reason for why the mother and the stepfather are estranged from their child, who is by the way a crazy queer sex worker drug addict who gets involved with older men, just suggests some kind of prejudice there to me because it deliberately conflates all those things as part and parcel of being gay and as something that the 'poor parents' did everything in their power to stop.


I suspect that was more on the part of The Sun than the parents. But that’s pure speculation on my behalf. I definitely agree there’s an element (be it conscious or unconscious) of homophobia in the reporting.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Jul 13 2023, 12:27 AM) *
You know exactly what you’re doing with that framing.


I don’t know why you take issue with it when all of them are at present at most in their early 20s, and there’s evidence Huw first messaged one when he was 17.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(No Sleeep @ Jul 13 2023, 12:33 AM) *
I don’t know why you take issue with it when all of them are at present at most in their early 20s, and there’s evidence Huw first messaged one when he was 17.


You keep mentioning the evidence of this 17 year old yet there’s literally no criminal evidence, nor have any other journalists other than The Sun seen any alleged evidence to verify it, you know, like journalists are meant to do? You’ve created a narrative in your own head and have alleged some very strong inferences against numerous people in this thread.

Much as I find some of the alleged behaviour strange, I can’t believe I’m reading that people are shocked that an older adult may be attracted to a younger adult. What times we live in ey.
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post 12th July 2023, 11:48 PM
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An older man messaging a 17 year old and purchasing some (legal 18+) nude pictures on onlyfans from what I can tell? And paying quite a lot of money as well.

This isn't uncommon for older men with money (both straight and gay), but in this case it happens to be a very public figure; which also causes a big power imbalance.

Is what Huw did illegal? No. However, it is morally wrong.

The witch hunt triggered by the Sun was horrid and I hope they get sued heavily. The reporting felt very homophobic as well. Just coming off pride month to have the likes of the Sun churn up discourse and hatred, urgh.

Watch the government use this to distract from their immigration bills or something worse.

I don't feel sorry for Huw as he should've known something like this could've happened. Based on his situation he seems to be a closeted man which grew up with a very strict christian/catholic background, which is a very difficult thing to comes to terms with (likely contributes to why he suffers with depression). The fact he's married with children likely means he never felt like he could come out and live his authentic life. This has all accumulated to what has now happened.




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post 13th July 2023, 05:52 AM
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The age of consent in the UK is 16. so while it leaves you feeling icky, it’s not illegal in any way for someone to message a 17 year old. If photos were exchanged before they were 18 then the met could have found there to be a crime. They didn’t. The source of the allegation, the sun, has walked back their implications of inappropriate photos being shared by someone under 18 (BUT above the age of consent) likely because their legal department finally woke up.

All of this is based off the retelling of the story by a third party with an axe to grind who received unknown compensation for providing this „story“

Where was this energy over Jake Daniels? That wasn’t sensationalised front page news for a week was it? I wonder why??? Is it perhaps because the sun has a f***ing agenda and wants to damage the bbc? Is it because they sniffed out a bit of sensationalism with a closeted star and they just love to push people out of the closet before they’re ready? Is it because there’s neither a crime nor a story here perhaps?


And I can’t at the allegation that the photos were paid for on OF. That’s hilarious. If that was a crime half the men in the country would be up on charges.
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post 13th July 2023, 06:39 AM
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Well at least No Sleeep managed to defy their username and actually get some sleep!

QUOTE(blacksquare @ Jul 12 2023, 11:34 PM) *
I don't think anyone is supporting or condoning his behaviour. There is some nuance here because we don't know the full picture — however, we do know that no crime has been committed, which disproves the story in The Sun.


This is exactly the point, nuance. It's impossible to have any kind of nuanced debate here or on social media without the full picture/context, and people going from zero to NONCE in seconds is unhelpful to say the least.

The point also made earlier about how others like Rylan have had their reputation dragged through the mud is also depressing and shameful, I think The Sun knew perfectly what they were doing when they ran/exaggerated the story but declined to name the person accused of criminality. Sadly social media platforms have been built around monitising anger and fear, there is little genuine concern from these people about the welfare of the young people involved nor anybody else that this media storm will have affected negatively, all about the clicks and advertising revenue and then 'move on, nothing to see here'.
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post 13th July 2023, 08:31 AM
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The point about the 17 year old that I am questioning if anybody discussing it has any understanding about apps etc.

IF this person was on dating apps or doing sex work on OnlyFans, these things are age verified. So IF - which has in any case been denied by the person in question and since walked back by the Sun - the person in question WAS 17 they would be a 17 year old who had lied about their age and deliberately presented as at least 18 in order to get on the platform in the first place.

Anybody using a dating app or in an adult space has the presumption that everyone else using it is an adult because that is literally the legal barrier for entry and THUS it seems absolutely ridiculous to accuse somebody who only socialised with presumed adults in an adults only space as a paedophile - aka someone who deliberately pursues minors.
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post 13th July 2023, 01:48 PM
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He hasn't committed a crime, the people he was messaging were of consentual age and him cheating on his wife is between them. To like this to paedophilia is absolutely grotesque and I'm sorry, riddled in homophobia whether intentional or not.

Yes the ages may be a large gap and maybe it's a tad weird to some but paedophilia? Calling people a nonce for that? Please. Get a grip.
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post 13th July 2023, 03:28 PM
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The Sun being a bastion of sexual propriety is laughable considering the way they had naked 16 year old on.their pages for decades. Also their political editor, Harry Cole, has had many tweets unearthed perving about school girls and jailbait.

In other nasty people getting exposed news, there's delicious revelations going around about bullying, far right enabling, transphobic Dan Wooton. Who's been very quiet on twitter for a while himself... coffee.gif

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post 13th July 2023, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(Smint @ Jul 13 2023, 04:28 PM) *
The Sun being a bastion of sexual propriety is laughable considering the way they had naked 16 year old on.their pages for decades. Also their political editor, Harry Cole, has had many tweets unearthed perving about school girls and jailbait.

In other nasty people getting exposed news, there's delicious revelations going around about bullying, far right enabling, transphobic Dan Wooton. Who's been very quiet on twitter for a while himself... coffee.gif


!!! Hate Dan Wooton. What are the rumours?!
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post 13th July 2023, 03:41 PM
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Very long thread from an ex partner (ewwww) of Dan's here.

https://twitter.com/rubytrubes/status/1679240800310382593
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post 13th July 2023, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(Big Fat Padam @ Jul 13 2023, 04:35 PM) *
!!! Hate Dan Wooton. What are the rumours?!


One of his ex-boyfriends has came out and wrote one hell of a Twitter thread detailing how he coerced people into making sex tapes without consent so he could buy them, amongst other things.
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post 13th July 2023, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(Oliver @ Jul 13 2023, 04:42 PM) *
One of his ex-boyfriends has came out and wrote one hell of a Twitter thread detailing how he coerced people into making sex tapes without consent so he could buy them, amongst other things.


That's for another thread.
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