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Tenet | 26th August 2020, Christopher Nolan's new one.

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Tafty³³³ View member profile	1st January 2020, 11:15 PM Post #1
I found the love, I found the love in me Pronouns: He/Him Joined: 13 December 2007 Posts: 87,449 User: 5,042	LdOM0x0XDMo One of the early award contenders for 2021? (Similar to Inception-type buzz?)


Tafty³³³ View member profile	1st January 2020, 11:16 PM Post #2
I found the love, I found the love in me Pronouns: He/Him Joined: 13 December 2007 Posts: 87,449 User: 5,042	This looks insane (but this is Nolan after all). His obsession with time is humorous. Nolan is one of few I can trust, so fingers crossed for this one!


Jαsє View member profile	1st January 2020, 11:31 PM Post #3
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 13 June 2011 Posts: 19,808 User: 14,043	The trailer looks epic Confession time - I've never seen a Nolan film


Tafty³³³ View member profile	1st January 2020, 11:59 PM Post #4
I found the love, I found the love in me Pronouns: He/Him Joined: 13 December 2007 Posts: 87,449 User: 5,042	U wot? Have you not seen any of 'The Dark Knight' trilogy? He's one of the finest directors alive. 'Inception' is pretty much THE perfect Summer blockbuster. It's incredible.


Chez Wombat View member profile	2nd January 2020, 12:40 AM Post #5
The owls are not what they seem Pronouns: He/him Joined: 11 July 2009 Posts: 37,125 User: 9,232	Yes, you've been missing out big time! The Dark Knight trilogy, Inception, Memento, Dunkirk and The Prestige are some of the best films of recent times. Looking forward to this ofc.~


Jαsє View member profile	2nd January 2020, 04:55 PM Post #6
BuzzJack Platinum Member Joined: 13 June 2011 Posts: 19,808 User: 14,043	Nope, never seen anything from him. My friend who has seen literally every film he's been involved with has been going on at me to get his stuff watched so I think I'm gonna start with The Dark Knight trilogy!


Rooney View member profile	22nd August 2020, 02:28 PM Post #7
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,597 User: 88	The reviews for this are mainly positive! I'm really looking forward to seeing this. Is Christpopher Nolan going to be the man to save cinemas in the short term?


Addy! View member profile	22nd August 2020, 02:49 PM Post #8
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 21 January 2007 Posts: 23,774 User: 2,666	QUOTE(Chez WreathBow @ Jan 2 2020, 01:40 AM) Yes, you've been missing out big time! The Dark Knight trilogy, Inception, Memento, Dunkirk and The Prestige are some of the best films of recent times. Looking forward to this ofc.~ How could you not mentioned Interstellar that is my fave of his work...mindblowing!!!


Chez Wombat View member profile	22nd August 2020, 03:10 PM Post #9
The owls are not what they seem Pronouns: He/him Joined: 11 July 2009 Posts: 37,125 User: 9,232	I do really like Interstellar, it's absolutely beautiful and the scope is incredible, it's not amongst his best though as it's a tad over-ambitious and stretched out and not quite as successful as the others mentioned (has it really been eight months since I made that post? ) Anyway really looking forward to this, I'm sure it'll be good anyway, but it really could go down in history film that saves cinema for the COVID era if it goes down well.


Tafty³³³ View member profile	22nd August 2020, 09:56 PM Post #10
I found the love, I found the love in me Pronouns: He/Him Joined: 13 December 2007 Posts: 87,449 User: 5,042	I really, really hope this is a success. All eyes will be on this and it's release strategy for future big film releases. If it bombs in it's limited territories, we're gonna get further delays/cancels for cinema and possibly nothing new (big movie release wise) until next year. Fingers crossed. I can't think of many better non-franchise options than a Christopher Nolan movie to get the ball rolling though!


Popchartfreak View member profile	28th August 2020, 05:11 PM Post #11
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 18 July 2012 Posts: 22,826 User: 17,376	5/10 for me, Not bad, but not exceptional. Interstellar was great, Memento intriguing, Inception was interesting, The Dark Knight trllogy's good, but this left me feeling a bit underwhelmed. There's precious little characterisation/development most of them being plot function-related, not unusual in Nolan films, and it's long, also fairly usual for Nolan, huge expanses of exposition and offscreen plot referencing & jumping about in short segments. The cast were OK, though the lead was oddly uninvolving one way or the other, the three supporting roles were slightly more memorable. Nolan delights in being unpredictable and cerebral, but really this is Memento Plus. Plus being plotholes. The problem with being so involved plotwise is I usually revert to plothole nitpicking. I won't spoil anything else, just go along for the ride, try and guess the ending, and help keep cinema alive! 10/10 for releasing it though!


Rooney View member profile	29th August 2020, 07:46 PM Post #12
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,597 User: 88	QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Aug 28 2020, 06:11 PM) 5/10 for me, Not bad, but not exceptional. Interstellar was great, Memento intriguing, Inception was interesting, The Dark Knight trllogy's good, but this left me feeling a bit underwhelmed. There's precious little characterisation/development most of them being plot function-related, not unusual in Nolan films, and it's long, also fairly usual for Nolan, huge expanses of exposition and offscreen plot referencing & jumping about in short segments. The cast were OK, though the lead was oddly uninvolving one way or the other, the three supporting roles were slightly more memorable. Nolan delights in being unpredictable and cerebral, but really this is Memento Plus. Plus being plotholes. The problem with being so involved plotwise is I usually revert to plothole nitpicking. I won't spoil anything else, just go along for the ride, try and guess the ending, and help keep cinema alive! 10/10 for releasing it though! I don't think there were any plotholes, but unless you understand physics, it's absolutely mind crazy. I was following totally until about two thirds of the way through, but I lost myself in the final sequence, but I did guess the ending at least. So I was fairly happy with that. I'd give it a solid 8/10, it's not character driven at all and a lot of the characters are cliched, but it's plot heavy and certainly an interesting concept.


Nightcrawler View member profile	30th August 2020, 11:32 AM Post #13
All I need is the air I breathe and a place to rest my head. Joined: 13 August 2006 Posts: 4,324 User: 1,109	So I had no idea what was going on for the first hour (don't think I remembered anybody's names and I definitely didn't know who anybody was in terms of their relevance to the story) but ended up quite enjoying it by the end! Some good action sequences and I think I understood the plot... My main gripe was the fact that the sound editing wasn't great and I often couldn't work out what people were saying - particularly Kenneth Branagh who barely moved his mouth throughout the entire film!


Rooney View member profile	30th August 2020, 06:11 PM Post #14
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,597 User: 88	QUOTE(Nightcrawler @ Aug 30 2020, 12:32 PM) So I had no idea what was going on for the first hour (don't think I remembered anybody's names and I definitely didn't know who anybody was in terms of their relevance to the story) but ended up quite enjoying it by the end! Some good action sequences and I think I understood the plot... My main gripe was the fact that the sound editing wasn't great and I often couldn't work out what people were saying - particularly Kenneth Branagh who barely moved his mouth throughout the entire film! I do agree with the sound editing in parts, it was very "Bane" in The Dark Knight Rises. I wonder if Nolan just likes that editing tone as it mimics the reality of people speaking with heavy masks on? Who knows. Certainly in the opening scene it was very difficult to make out what was being said.


Esmerelda View member profile	2nd September 2020, 03:47 PM Post #15
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 21 March 2006 Posts: 570 User: 294	Had to walk out during this as I just couldn't understand a word anyone was saying. The other 5 people in there had already given up. It's a pretty old fashioned cinema so not sure if their sound system was to blame though I have never had any problems before


Tafty³³³ View member profile	3rd September 2020, 12:06 PM Post #16
I found the love, I found the love in me Pronouns: He/Him Joined: 13 December 2007 Posts: 87,449 User: 5,042	I saw this last night. Fantastic film making.. just when you think you've seen it all... incredible stuff. However, I don't get the sound/dialogue problems at all? Like, I found it easy to hear everything they were saying (but then I never had that issue with Bane's stuff in TDKR so idk?) the score was definitely over powering and louder than usual, but I heard everything that was being said? But I was in just a bog-standard screen and not IMAX or X Plus or anything. I need another watch though as I think I understood it, but there's just so much to unpack in your first viewing of it, but sometimes they're the best films as you'll get something new every time you watch etc..


Popchartfreak View member profile	3rd September 2020, 03:58 PM Post #17
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 18 July 2012 Posts: 22,826 User: 17,376	QUOTE(Rooney @ Aug 29 2020, 08:46 PM) I don't think there were any plotholes, but unless you understand physics, it's absolutely mind crazy. I was following totally until about two thirds of the way through, but I lost myself in the final sequence, but I did guess the ending at least. So I was fairly happy with that. I'd give it a solid 8/10, it's not character driven at all and a lot of the characters are cliched, but it's plot heavy and certainly an interesting concept. I think it was the way the thrust of the backwards-in-time segments changed the past (and therefore the future) with the promise that the lead was going to go back further in time to recruit future-Batman who sacrifices himself to save the world from Branagh. Unless I've missed something obvious, if he's gone back in time to set things up to save the world, then the easiest way of doing that is to shoot Branagh immediately 10 years back. Problem solved, no need for complex, secretive manipulations. Problem 2, if he's going back in time there's going to be 2 of him at any given moment, both going different ways, he could have told himself what to do and then no need fighting himself later if for some convenient reason he cant kill Branagh at any time during his lifetime. I can't stop myself going off at tangents in film, especially time travel films, it's a compulsion


Cremey View member profile	3rd September 2020, 04:18 PM Post #18
on a bench in coney island Joined: 9 August 2007 Posts: 17,594 User: 4,089	I was pretty disappointed with this. It was incredible to look at and experience, as any Christopher Nolan film is, but overall I thought it lacked something of his usual magic. I'm another one who struggled with the sound mixing. Parts of it were honestly deafening, and I found Branagh impossible to understand in some parts (the sound plus the accent, as well as him hardly moving his mouth didn't help, haha) The first hour I literally didn't understand a thing haha, and despite understanding everything (I think...) by the end, I went looking online afterwards to see if there was anything I had missed which might explain why I didn't think it was as great as I thought it'd be, but it ended up that I did understand it, I just didn't think it was that great? I think I just have such high expectations of Christopher Nolan films now, so anything less than great is such a letdown. If it was by another director I'm sure I'd have been a lot more impressed overall. Still, despite not loving it, WHAT a film to re-open the cinemas with.


Iz 🌟 View member profile	5th September 2020, 03:52 PM Post #19
I'm a paragon so don't perceive me Joined: 3 February 2011 Posts: 37,419 User: 12,929	For what it's worth, this does the basics of a time travel story right, though it doesn't do anything new with the old tropes. And what it tries to do new... doesn't work. I think my biggest tell about my ultimate opinion of this one was in the scene where they first did the exposition for objects going backwards in time. Specifically the line: "It's best if you don't think about it too much." - obviously aimed at the audience, and great, well done guys, because now I am definitely going to be thinking about how this shit makes no sense for the rest of the movie. It's an interesting concept, and I wanted to see it work, but rather than encourage turning your brain off, fully plot out how to make the use of this weapon sound like it makes a bit more sense. When the teams in the endgame sequence were using the backwards-moving buildings to plan out their next move, it became so obvious that this is not a weapon anyone would ever create or want to use - if your opponent can use it against you to predict what to do, it's pointless. They paid some lip-service by saying you wouldn't want to get hit by a backwards moving bullet, but not moreso than normal bullets? It just seems so... useless if you know your enemy is using it. (I did fall asleep for a little bit in the middle but plot summaries doesn't make it seem like I missed all that much.) And it's not because I didn't enjoy it, I did enjoy watching at least some parts of it, but time travel films encourage me to pick at their plot a lot, and this one had more than most - though I have to commend it for trying with a more complex plot. I just wish they'd tried harder to fully realise their concept, it felt half-conceived.


Brett-Butler View member profile	5th September 2020, 07:32 PM Post #20
Howdy, disco citizens Joined: 16 January 2010 Posts: 12,775 User: 10,455	I knew little about Tenet before I went to see it, and having come out of it, I know even less. Spent about an hour trying to talk through the logic of what happened in the film, but we still couldn't work out a lot of it. It felt like there was still a few dangling threads, but not sure if there's a sequel in the offing as Christopher Nolan doesn't normally do these, Batman aside.