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 28th August 2021, 11:34 AM
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 It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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xx Lewis Hamilton
xx Valtteri Bottas xx Max Verstappen xx Sergio Perez xx Lando Norris xx Daniel Ricciardo xx Sebastian Vettel xx Lance Stroll xx Fernando Alonso xx Esteban Ocon xx Charles Leclerc xx Carlos Sainz Jr xx Pierre Gasly xx Yuki Tsunoda xx Kimi Raikkonen xx Antonio Giovanazzi xx Mick Schumacher xx Nikita Mazepin xx George Russell xx Nicholas Latifi xx Robert Kubica Rate the class of 2021 from 10 to 0, you can one '11' and one '-1'. All commentary is welcome about the drivers please try and keep it family friendly. You have until 1st December to get your rates done. Here is the results from 2020: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=241076 |
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7th October 2021, 03:29 PM
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It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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Anyone interested at all in doing a F1 2021 Driver's Rate? |
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7th October 2021, 09:32 PM
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 BuzzJack Legend
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Yeah definitely but as was mentioned in last years thread I want to save it till end of the season (or as late as possible) to get a full proper assessment.
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7th October 2021, 10:33 PM
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Mansonette
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Yeah I'll definitely do it but I think Dobbo is right in that it's worth waiting a bit longer.
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7th October 2021, 10:41 PM
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It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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All right I'll leave it til the end of the season. Thanks,
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12th December 2021, 04:09 PM
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Mansonette
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08 Lewis Hamilton - Poor start to the season with some daft mistakes but his talent can't be ignored and he finished the season strongly with some great drives. Nice car
04 Valtteri Bottas - Wildly inconsistent if undoubtedly a strong qualifier in general. Can be impressive one week and awful the next. Understandably jettisoned by Mercedes 10 Max Verstappen - Hugely impressive and outperforming the car. Would be an 11 if it weren't for some of the more desparate moments. Worthy champion, if he keeps it. 06 Sergio Perez - Struggled with the car for some time and never likely to challenge Max. Poor qualifier but a great tyre preserver and defensive driver when needed. Solid number 2. 07 Lando Norris - Strong start to the season but inexperience showed at times and his form tailed off in the latter part of the year. 06 Daniel Ricciardo - Great driver who took perhaps too long to adapt to the 'weird' McLaren handling. Improved after the break but still not quite there. Popular win in Monza 05 Sebastian Vettel - Still on the decline and no longer much of a force on track. Great elder statesman influence and role model in the paddock 04 Lance Stroll - Lucky to still be there. The flashes of potential shown last year are not apparent this time around 08 Fernando Alonso - Took a while to adapt and re-learn the formula. A genius at the wheel and in the head. 07 Esteban Ocon - Fortuitous but earned win in Hungary. Solid but not elite 07 Charles Leclerc - Unable to dominate newcomer Sainz, which either means he's no a great as I thought he was or Sainz is better than I figured 07 Carlos Sainz Jr - Possibly better than I gave credit before or Leclerc is less capable than I thought 08 Pierre Gasly - The Alpha Tauri is a fine car but Pierre is doing wonders with it. Arguably best of the rest compared to machinery 05 Yuki Tsunoda - Erratic and sometimes a liability but improved as he learnt the sport. Give him another year and see how he is then before judging too much 06 Kimi Raikkonen - The best starter on the grid in terms of places gained at the start. Arguably down to poor qualifying. Reflexes are gone but the mind is still sharp 06 Antonio Giovanazzi - Unfairly dumped from the sport considering some of the other drivers. Good qualifier at times but inconsistent race performance. Unlucky too 06 Mick Schumacher - Has traditionally taken a year to settle in both F3 and F2. Next year will be telling, but impossible to judge in the worst car out there. 04 Nikita Mazepin - Improving slowly. Very slowly. Has made some good points about some drivers being treated more favourably than others 07 George Russell -Some great qualifying performances. Still has bad starts and questionable racecraft. 05 Nicholas Latifi - Not terrible but not great. Improving steadily but not up to standard 05 Robert Kubica - A solid stand in but best years well behind him. |
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14th December 2021, 10:41 AM
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BuzzJack Legend
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8 Lewis Hamilton
Good but not a 10 either. Sure he's an amazing driver, no doubt about it, but also makes mistakes and let's not forget he's in the best car by miles. 0 Valtteri Bottas Good qualifier but thats it. Awful at racing and incapable of passing others even with the best car in the competition. 8 Max Verstappen No doubt he's a great driver but still not cold-headed enough and making lots and lots of rookie mistakes. 6 Sergio Perez Some ups but lots of downs. He's been useful to the team for sure but a bit disappointed about his performance overall. 8 Lando Norris One of the surprises of the season, very quick and very brave. 4 Daniel Ricciardo Still not adapted to the McLaren even after 1 whole season. Very disappointing season overall 3 Sebastian Vettel Think his best days are past and should definitely consider retiring. Bad car for sure but some bad driving too. 2 Lance Stroll If papa Stroll wasn't sending checks he wouldn't have no place in F1, he doesn't have what it takes. 8 Fernando Alonso Great driving in most races, would really like to see him in a better car. 5 Esteban Ocon Besides a couple of extremely lucky races, disappointing driver overall and not top elite like I thought he was. 8 Charles Leclerc Hampered by the car at times but great driver overall, quick and with lots of class although he has also done some rookie mistakes at times 9 Carlos Sainz Jr Best this season, not perfect cos he has also done rookie mistakes, but imagine if he had a better car. 8 Pierre Gasly One of the most reliable, think he should have been brought back to Red Bull, deserves a better car 4 Yuki Tsunoda Still think he's not good enough and hasn't done enough to keep the seat 2 Kimi Raikkonen Time to go, an embarrassment with silly crashes for most of the races 5 Antonio Giovanazzi Much better than people think, pity to see him go 4 Mick Schumacher Don't think he's shown much this season, cannot recall a single occasion in which I thought there's potential, but of course he has the lousiest car 0 Nikita Mazepin The worst of the worst, causing accidents on a daily basis, shouldn't be on F1 4 George Russell A tad over-rated, sure he can be good at 1 lap in qualifying but he's made tons and tons of mistakes, again and again and again. He ended up the season completely deflated and even beaten by Latifi. 3 Nicholas Latifi Poor car but he hasn't shown any indication he's a good driver not even once |
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14th December 2021, 04:50 PM
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Mansonette
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Dec 14 2021, 10:41 AM)  2 Kimi Raikkonen Time to go, an embarrassment with silly crashes for most of the races 5 Antonio Giovanazzi Much better than people think, pity to see him go I feel that's rather harsh on Kimi. Bearing in mind that Kimi missed two races this year - He outscored Gio by 10 pts to 3 In races Raikkonen finished ahead of his teamate in 10/20. Gio in 9/20 Gio won qualifying 13-7. Kimi holds the season record for most places gained on the first lap (45, an average of almost 2.5 per race and nearly double the next driver) and only retired once through a collision this year Granted I think his time has come but Antonio is nowhere near that much better than him (if at all) Additionally, I don't think Verstappen made quite that many mistakes this year. A few perhaps but I wouldn't say they were rookie mistakes especially. I'm curious as to which moments your're referring to. |
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14th December 2021, 05:36 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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8.5 Lewis Hamilton
6.0 Valtteri Bottas 11.0 Max Verstappen 7.0 Sergio Perez 9.0 Lando Norris 7.0 Daniel Ricciardo 7.0 Sebastian Vettel 6.0 Lance Stroll 9.0 Fernando Alonso 8.5 Esteban Ocon 7.5 Charles Leclerc 7.5 Carlos Sainz Jr 9.5 Pierre Gasly 5.5 Yuki Tsunoda 7.0 Kimi Raikkonen 6.5 Antonio Giovanazzi 7.5 Mick Schumacher 5.5 Nikita Mazepin 8.5 George Russell 7.0 Nicholas Latifi 6.5 Robert Kubica |
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14th December 2021, 05:50 PM
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11 Lewis Hamilton
4.5 Valtteri Bottas 8 Max Verstappen 6.5 Sergio Perez 7 Lando Norris 7 Daniel Ricciardo 5 Sebastian Vettel 5.5 Lance Stroll 7.5 Fernando Alonso 8 Esteban Ocon 7.5 Charles Leclerc 6 Carlos Sainz Jr 5 Pierre Gasly 4 Yuki Tsunoda 6 Kimi Raikkonen 5.5 Antonio Giovanazzi 6 Mick Schumacher 5 Nikita Mazepin 4.5 George Russell 5 Nicholas Latifi 4.5 Robert Kubica |
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14th December 2021, 06:01 PM
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IncredibleSquirrel
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9 Lewis Hamilton (score increased in last few races)
6 Valtteri Bottas 9 Max Verstappen (knocked down from a 10 for Brazil onwards) 6.5 Sergio Perez (i'll bump up half a point for his Abu Dhabi defending) 8 Lando Norris 6 Daniel Ricciardo 6 Sebastian Vettel 5 Lance Stroll 7 Fernando Alonso 7 Esteban Ocon 8 Charles Leclerc 9.5 Carlos Sainz Jr (almost as impressive as it can get, but too many quali mistakes to be a perfect 10) 8 Pierre Gasly (10 for qualifying, 7 for racing) 6 Yuki Tsunoda 5 Kimi Raikkonen 5 Antonio Giovanazzi 4 Mick Schumacher 4 Nikita Mazepin 7 George Russell 5 Nicholas Latifi 4 Robert Kubica |
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15th December 2021, 05:18 AM
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Cowcow no Frieren
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8.5 Lewis Hamilton
7 Valtteri Bottas 11 Max Verstappen 8.5 Sergio Perez 8 Lando Norris 8.5 Daniel Ricciardo 7.5 Sebastian Vettel 6 Lance Stroll 9.5 Fernando Alonso 8 Esteban Ocon 7 Charles Leclerc 8.5 Carlos Sainz Jr 7 Pierre Gasly 6.5 Yuki Tsunoda 5.5 Kimi Raikkonen 6 Antonio Giovanazzi 3 Mick Schumacher 1 Nikita Mazepin 7 George Russell 6.5 Nicholas Latifi 3 Robert Kubica |
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17th December 2021, 05:36 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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10 Lewis Hamilton [still amazing if not his greatest ever season, sublime second half of the year]
07 Valtteri Bottas [solid #2 as per after a shaky start to the season, helped merc win constructors once again] 11 Max Verstappen [class of the field this year and to his credit the aggressive driving helped him win the title] 07 Sergio Perez [massive upgrade on previous RB #2s and was a reliable points scorer towards the end even if miles off max pace-wise] 09 Lando Norris [incredible first half of the season but fell off the boil post-sochi, huge breakthrough year nonetheless] 06 Daniel Ricciardo [race win helps disguise a really disappointing season but did pick it up a bit in later races] 06 Sebastian Vettel [nothing too spectacular but a decent enough first season at a new team] 05 Lance Stroll [very average season and he's actually regressed from last year] 08 Fernando Alonso [impressive return culminating in a deserved podium] 07 Esteban Ocon [more promising than last season and the race win caps off a successful year] 08 Charles Leclerc [unlucky not to score more points this season, a good year again but not by his lofty standards] 09 Carlos Sainz Jr [unsung hero of the season beating leclerc in his first season and quietly picking up lots of points] 09 Pierre Gasly [extremely impressive once again especially in quali dragging the at best 5th fastest car to top 6 on the grid most races] 04 Yuki Tsunoda [even as a rookie it's bit pretty disappointing with too many crashes and incidents, much more needed next season] 06 Kimi Raikkonen [reasonably decent final season without any standout moments] 05 Antonio Giovanazzi [good quali performances let down by average races, only 3 points is a super disappointing return] 06 Mick Schumacher [clearly the most promising rookie but still made a few too many errors, promising talent nontheless] 02 Nikita Mazepin [daddy's cash, daddy's cash, daddy's cash, a least he crashed the least out of the rookies] 08 George Russell [weirdly went off the boil in the final quarter but fantastic season earning him a big team move] 05 Nicholas Latifi [tempted to -1 for costing lewis the title but he deserves his seat even if nothing spectaular] 05 Robert Kubica [not too much to go on but did ok in his stand-ins] |
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18th December 2021, 04:19 PM
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Queen of Soon
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I think the reason Mazepin crashed the least is coz he was never going fast enough to crash
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12th January 2022, 03:50 PM
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It's still will be the return of the Mack 4eva
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10 Lewis Hamilton
02 Valtteri Bottas 11 Max Verstappen 09 Sergio Perez 08 Lando Norris 07 Daniel Ricciardo 05 Sebastian Vettel 04 Lance Stroll 09 Fernando Alonso 08 Esteban Ocon 07 Charles Leclerc 10 Carlos Sainz Jr 09 Pierre Gasly 03 Yuki Tsunoda 05 Kimi Raikkonen 01 Antonio Giovanazzi 04 Mick Schumacher -1 Nikita Mazepin 07 George Russell 03 Nicholas Latifi 05 Robert Kubica |
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