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Rooney View member profile	Sep 19 2019, 09:43 PM Post #841
WINTER IS COMING Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 45,594 User: 88	I am a remaniner but I also agree the referendum result has to be respected. The problem the whole time is those who are Eurosceptics in politics have never had any idea about how we would survive on our own two feet, as evidently showed in the past 3 years. It also gave birth to may extreme views held by a lot of people about immigration. Yet what they have no idea about is we need immigration (as do all countries) to keep business and jobs going. What people don't realise is instead of Poland, Romania and Spain it's likely to be India, China and South Korea. My problem with the current government is we pay these people to govern our country and look out for the countries best interests. I'll always respect the referendum result and I agree the country voted to leave. What I will never agree with is a no-deal scenario which yes backs "democracy" but it leaves our country at serve risk and could easily be avoided all for some ideological purpose which benefits few and leaves many of the country at risk. I mean I've said it before but the country went mad when KFC closed for 2 weeks, everytime there is a fuel shortage people go mad, can you imagine Barbara and Linda fighting over a loaf of bread in ASDA? It's just sheer madness and can easily be avoided with some calm heads at the table instead of a bunch of ideological knobheads who have so much influence.


Long Dong Silver View member profile	Sep 19 2019, 10:08 PM Post #842
Buffy/Charmed Joined: 18 April 2013 Posts: 44,007 User: 18,639	It really doesn't. Leave lied, didn't get a big enough majority, didn't get youth support, sisn't get 3 nations. Revoke.


Steve201 View member profile	Sep 19 2019, 11:25 PM Post #843
Shakin Stevens Joined: 29 December 2007 Posts: 46,113 User: 5,138	QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Sep 19 2019, 10:31 PM) In other words, those of us who thought he was an idiot before still think he's an idiot. Indeed I thought he would bellow out that it was an advisory non binding vote and Boris is an absolute clown 😉


Steve201 View member profile	Sep 19 2019, 11:27 PM Post #844
Shakin Stevens Joined: 29 December 2007 Posts: 46,113 User: 5,138	QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 19 2019, 11:08 PM) It really doesn't. Leave lied, didn't get a big enough majority, didn't get youth support, sisn't get 3 nations. Revoke. I like your persistence algernon


vidcapper View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 04:27 AM Post #845
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 19 2019, 06:04 PM) The hardest bit will be coding the random answer from vidcapper that's not related to the question. The text will be easy, but randomness codes are always hard! At least i'm a little random. With you, it's Marxism all the way - I hate to tell you this, but repetition doesn't magically make socialism a better system... QUOTE(Common Sense @ Sep 19 2019, 07:27 PM) Wow this is interesting. Look who posted in this thread. Poster Posts Algernon Monqueef 176 Common Sense 138 Suedehead2 76 Rooney 48 vidcapper 46 I'm only 5th? QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 19 2019, 07:55 PM) Also the prople spoke back in 1970. 70% pro EU. Sorry That correlated with the papers praising the EU, rather than attacking it oover and oover with lies and smears since 1. The referendum was in 1975 2. There was no EU in 1975 anyway - it was the EEC, known as the Common Market. There's no way it can be argued that the 1975 & 2016 referenda were equivalent - the EEC had far less power then the EU does.


Silas View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 06:23 AM Post #846
Queen of Soon Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 74,051 User: 3,474	A deal comes with a transition period where we are still effectively an EU member state. The deal on the table is a bag of shite but far far better than no deal. As long as I can emigrate to Germany in 10 weeks time without having to jump through a billion hoops because our government is a useless shower of f***s then as far as I’m concerned the UK can do what it wants. The brain drain is already well underway. The price for Brexit is measurable in more than just €€€ value and the cultural and educational loss is also catastrophic. I look forward to voting yes again for Scottish freedom and restoring my EU citizenship that way as it’ll be far quicker than waiting to become a German citizen to restore my rights


crazy chris View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:18 AM Post #847
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 22,001 User: 53	QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Sep 17 2019, 09:48 PM) So that begs the eternal question which we keep asking you: Why do you blindly support someone who wouldn't hesitate to strip you of your benefits and make your life even more miserable for you if he could? Just doesn't make sense. AFAIK he has never said he'll do that.


crazy chris View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:19 AM Post #848
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 7 March 2006 Posts: 22,001 User: 53	Anyone seen this last night on BBC News? The passion with which some Brexiteers want to leave the European Union reached new highs – or depths, depending on your point of view – with this chap interviewed by the BBC on the street of Birmingham. He’s got diabetes but he still wants to leave the EU, even if it means he can’t get his insulin anymore (presumably in the event of a no deal).


mald487 View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:25 AM Post #849
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 1 June 2013 Posts: 527 User: 19,091	QUOTE(Rooney @ Sep 19 2019, 09:43 PM) I am a remaniner but I also agree the referendum result has to be respected. The problem the whole time is those who are Eurosceptics in politics have never had any idea about how we would survive on our own two feet, as evidently showed in the past 3 years. It also gave birth to may extreme views held by a lot of people about immigration. Yet what they have no idea about is we need immigration (as do all countries) to keep business and jobs going. What people don't realise is instead of Poland, Romania and Spain it's likely to be India, China and South Korea. My problem with the current government is we pay these people to govern our country and look out for the countries best interests. I'll always respect the referendum result and I agree the country voted to leave. What I will never agree with is a no-deal scenario which yes backs "democracy" but it leaves our country at serve risk and could easily be avoided all for some ideological purpose which benefits few and leaves many of the country at risk. I mean I've said it before but the country went mad when KFC closed for 2 weeks, everytime there is a fuel shortage people go mad, can you imagine Barbara and Linda fighting over a loaf of bread in ASDA? It's just sheer madness and can easily be avoided with some calm heads at the table instead of a bunch of ideological knobheads who have so much influence. Spot on. You've put this far more eloquently than I ever could. Immigration will not go down. That is a given. There are an abundance of jobs(IMPORTANT jobs. I know, I worked in healthcare for three years) that British people just don't apply for in large numbers, and if it's not Europeans filling those jobs it's going to most like be Asians. This post has been edited by mald487: Sep 20 2019, 09:25 AM


vidcapper View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:34 AM Post #850
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(Common Sense @ Sep 20 2019, 10:19 AM) Anyone seen this last night on BBC News? The passion with which some Brexiteers want to leave the European Union reached new highs – or depths, depending on your point of view – with this chap interviewed by the BBC on the street of Birmingham. He’s got diabetes but he still wants to leave the EU, even if it means he can’t get his insulin anymore (presumably in the event of a no deal). Did he make that no-insulin claim, or was that just something that was tacked on as part of PF...


Silas View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:35 AM Post #851
Queen of Soon Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 74,051 User: 3,474	QUOTE(Common Sense @ Sep 20 2019, 10:19 AM) Anyone seen this last night on BBC News? The passion with which some Brexiteers want to leave the European Union reached new highs – or depths, depending on your point of view – with this chap interviewed by the BBC on the street of Birmingham. He’s got diabetes but he still wants to leave the EU, even if it means he can’t get his insulin anymore (presumably in the event of a no deal). Wonderful. So thick he’d actually prefer to die an agonising and painful death than stay in the EU. What an actual roaster Why on earth are these weapons allowed a vote? They clearly can’t be trusted


Brett-Butler View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:37 AM Post #852
Howdy, disco citizens Joined: 16 January 2010 Posts: 12,775 User: 10,455	QUOTE(Common Sense @ Sep 20 2019, 10:19 AM) Anyone seen this last night on BBC News? The passion with which some Brexiteers want to leave the European Union reached new highs – or depths, depending on your point of view – with this chap interviewed by the BBC on the street of Birmingham. He’s got diabetes but he still wants to leave the EU, even if it means he can’t get his insulin anymore (presumably in the event of a no deal). That's not inspiring. That's terrifying. Losing your limbs to own the libs.


Long Dong Silver View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:52 AM Post #853
Buffy/Charmed Joined: 18 April 2013 Posts: 44,007 User: 18,639	QUOTE(Common Sense @ Sep 20 2019, 10:19 AM) Anyone seen this last night on BBC News? The passion with which some Brexiteers want to leave the European Union reached new highs – or depths, depending on your point of view – with this chap interviewed by the BBC on the street of Birmingham. He’s got diabetes but he still wants to leave the EU, even if it means he can’t get his insulin anymore (presumably in the event of a no deal). My LORD at the level of brainwashing! Revoke. This is not sensible. This is beyond a harmful joke now. Just imagine the levels of propaganda that were needed to convince some weapon he would rather die than remain part of a free trade union... I bet he has no similar problems with the UK.


Long Dong Silver View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 09:53 AM Post #854
Buffy/Charmed Joined: 18 April 2013 Posts: 44,007 User: 18,639	QUOTE(vidcapper @ Sep 20 2019, 05:27 AM) At least i'm a little random. With you, it's Marxism all the way - I hate to tell you this, but repetition doesn't magically make socialism a better system... I'm only 5th? 1. The referendum was in 1975 2. There was no EU in 1975 anyway - it was the EEC, known as the Common Market. There's no way it can be argued that the 1975 & 2016 referenda were equivalent - the EEC had far less power then the EU does. 1. Far more info with the first ref, and not random soundbites and massive lies. It counts for more. Want to overturn it? 70%. 2. Socialism shits all ovee the vile evil late stage capitalism, which is just feudalism rebranded.


mald487 View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 12:32 PM Post #855
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 1 June 2013 Posts: 527 User: 19,091	QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Sep 20 2019, 09:37 AM) That's not inspiring. That's terrifying. Losing your limbs to own the libs. We're not deal with sane rational thinking people remember. Good luck to the fella. If he's that dense and unwilling to admit this is a shit show then he deserves what ever he has coming to him!


Suedehead2 View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 12:40 PM Post #856
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 April 2007 Posts: 36,647 User: 3,272	QUOTE(Common Sense @ Sep 20 2019, 10:19 AM) Anyone seen this last night on BBC News? The passion with which some Brexiteers want to leave the European Union reached new highs – or depths, depending on your point of view – with this chap interviewed by the BBC on the street of Birmingham. He’s got diabetes but he still wants to leave the EU, even if it means he can’t get his insulin anymore (presumably in the event of a no deal). Only this morning I was comparing the UK's threats to the EU to leave without a deal to someone threatening to pull the plug on their life support machine to spite the nurses whose job it was to keep them alive. Maybe it wasn't such an exaggeration after all.


vidcapper View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 01:55 PM Post #857
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(vidcapper @ Sep 20 2019, 10:34 AM) Did he make that no-insulin claim, or was that just something that was tacked on as part of PF... I noticed no-one has confirmed or denied whether the man himself said this... and I find it impossible to believe that we do not make insulin at all here.


Iz 🌟 View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 02:05 PM Post #858
I'm a paragon so don't perceive me Joined: 3 February 2011 Posts: 37,403 User: 12,929	We do make insulin in the UK, for about 0.5% of the people who need it. Not nearly enough. We need to import it. It's just another one of those things that 'businesses don't expect to be a problem' until it is because our politics would be throwing us into uncharted waters. So for people who rely on it for their health, they absolutely are at risk.


mald487 View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 02:26 PM Post #859
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 1 June 2013 Posts: 527 User: 19,091	QUOTE(Izzy @ Sep 20 2019, 02:05 PM) Not nearly enough. We need to import it. This is the recurring theme. The oversimplification by Brexiteers is so frustrating. "Oh we have that I´m sure"


Suedehead2 View member profile	Sep 20 2019, 02:27 PM Post #860
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 April 2007 Posts: 36,647 User: 3,272	I read something earlier this week by someone who is dependent on a particular medicine. He asked his pharmacist about the implications for his medication of a no-deal withdrawal and was reassured that it was made in the UK. Not fully satisfied, he asked where the ingredients came from. They come from elsewhere in the EU. The same, of course, will apply to many things made in the UK.