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vidcapper View member profile	21st May 2018, 09:00 AM Post #21
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ May 21 2018, 09:11 AM) Too cynical for even me... Non-lying politicians exist, gasp! I would describe it more sardonic than purely cynical.


Long Dong Silver View member profile	21st May 2018, 10:50 AM Post #22
Buffy/Charmed Joined: 18 April 2013 Posts: 44,089 User: 18,639	I wonder if the Tories WILL force a snap election they know they'll lose to shift the BRexit blame onto left-wing policies and play the long-game, shifting the Overton Window even further right later... Their press pals will be all too happy to help


Brett-Butler View member profile	21st May 2018, 11:20 AM Post #23
Howdy, disco citizens Joined: 16 January 2010 Posts: 12,775 User: 10,455	I very much doubt the Conservatves are playing the long game. Many of them would be not alive if Labour were to win a five year term.


Suedehead2 View member profile	21st May 2018, 12:15 PM Post #24
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 April 2007 Posts: 36,674 User: 3,272	If Tory MPs think there is a significant chance of an autumn election I can see them dumping the Maybot in the next month or so.


vidcapper View member profile	21st May 2018, 01:33 PM Post #25
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 21 2018, 01:15 PM) If Tory MPs think there is a significant chance of an autumn election I can see them dumping the Maybot in the next month or so. Because they don't want an election, or because they don't think she can win it?


Suedehead2 View member profile	21st May 2018, 01:42 PM Post #26
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 April 2007 Posts: 36,674 User: 3,272	QUOTE(vidcapper @ May 21 2018, 02:33 PM) Because they don't want an election, or because they don't think she can win it? After last year I can't see them being too enthusiastic about another election with her as leader.


sm1ffj View member profile	21st May 2018, 02:20 PM Post #27
BuzzJack Enthusiast Joined: 27 December 2010 Posts: 1,928 User: 12,629	QUOTE(danG @ May 20 2018, 02:08 PM) You're joking. Not another one. For god's sake. As an OAP said once recently...


Suedehead2 View member profile	22nd May 2018, 08:34 AM Post #28
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 13 April 2007 Posts: 36,674 User: 3,272	One of today’s papers reports that Boris Johnson has said that there will be no autumn election. Looks like we’d better prepare for one then.


Doctor Blind View member profile	17th July 2018, 05:29 PM Post #29
#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue' Joined: 27 October 2008 Posts: 16,171 User: 7,561	QUOTE Reports that Tory rebels are being threatened with a general election if they defeat the government of a new clause 18 Call their bluff please!


Silas View member profile	17th July 2018, 06:25 PM Post #30
Queen of Soon Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 74,084 User: 3,474	We seem to be continually one vote away from bringing down this farce of a government. It keeps teasing us with the promise of happening


Long Dong Silver View member profile	17th July 2018, 06:45 PM Post #31
Buffy/Charmed Joined: 18 April 2013 Posts: 44,089 User: 18,639	If Brexit had never happened, we would have a Labour government right now, and if not, this government would have collapsed. Absolute joke set of pretentious Eton goons.


Popchartfreak View member profile	17th July 2018, 07:25 PM Post #32
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 18 July 2012 Posts: 22,833 User: 17,376	QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Jul 17 2018, 07:25 PM) We seem to be continually one vote away from bringing down this farce of a government. It keeps teasing us with the promise of happening I think it's called "edging": you think you're nearly there and are about to get satisfaction when suddenly you get an image of Theresa May and the mood just evaporates.....


vidcapper View member profile	18th July 2018, 05:44 AM Post #33
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(Queef of Skreech @ Jul 17 2018, 07:45 PM) If Brexit had never happened, we would have a Labour government right now, and if not, this government would have collapsed. Absolute joke set of pretentious Eton goons. I'm not sure how you figure that - without a Brexit vote, there wouldn't have been a 2017 GE, and the Tories would still have a HoC majority, however small.


Silas View member profile	18th July 2018, 05:14 PM Post #34
Queen of Soon Joined: 24 May 2007 Posts: 74,084 User: 3,474	QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Jul 17 2018, 09:25 PM) I think it's called "edging": you think you're nearly there and are about to get satisfaction when suddenly you get an image of Theresa May and the mood just evaporates..... !!! QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jul 18 2018, 07:44 AM) I'm not sure how you figure that - without a Brexit vote, there wouldn't have been a 2017 GE, and the Tories would still have a HoC majority, however small. I’m not so sure. In a world where the referendum commitment was awol from the Tory manifesto in 2015 we’d probably have a Milliband-Sturgeon government and be in a much better place economically with a recovering NHS


vidcapper View member profile	19th July 2018, 05:45 AM Post #35
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Jul 18 2018, 06:14 PM) !!! I’m not so sure. In a world where the referendum commitment was awol from the Tory manifesto in 2015 we’d probably have a Milliband-Sturgeon government and be in a much better place economically with a recovering NHS I can't see the lack of a referendum commitment affecting a GE result that much.


vidcapper View member profile	19th July 2018, 06:58 AM Post #36
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	Would it surprise you if the Tories called a GE next Spring, just after Brexit day? 1. Because if they won, it would all settle down over the next 5 years, or, 2. If Labour won, and Brexit went pear-shaped, then Labour would take that fall for it?


Popchartfreak View member profile	19th July 2018, 06:58 AM Post #37
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 18 July 2012 Posts: 22,833 User: 17,376	QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jul 19 2018, 06:45 AM) I can't see the lack of a referendum commitment affecting a GE result that much. the collapse of UKIP following the vote would suggest otherwise....


vidcapper View member profile	19th July 2018, 07:02 AM Post #38
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Jul 19 2018, 07:58 AM) the collapse of UKIP following the vote would suggest otherwise.... But surely the UKIP vote would have risen, not collapsed?


Popchartfreak View member profile	19th July 2018, 07:07 AM Post #39
BuzzJack Legend Joined: 18 July 2012 Posts: 22,833 User: 17,376	QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jul 19 2018, 08:02 AM) But surely the UKIP vote would have risen, not collapsed? My point being that when the issue seemed to be settled they all fled to the Tories (and a few to Labour) so not having a referendum would mean the Tories would have lost votes to UKIP who would still exist, allowing a Labour controlled government in.


vidcapper View member profile	19th July 2018, 07:27 AM Post #40
Paul Hyett Joined: 4 April 2006 Posts: 25,346 User: 364	QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Jul 19 2018, 08:07 AM) My point being that when the issue seemed to be settled they all fled to the Tories (and a few to Labour) so not having a referendum would mean the Tories would have lost votes to UKIP who would still exist, allowing a Labour controlled government in. ISTM there are too many variables to be confident of any such conclusion. for example... How many Tories would really have deserted them for UKIP, given the knowledge that that might well let Labour in?