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Posted by: Sw▲ggy J 19th September 2018, 09:28 AM

United Kingdom 2019
Bigger Than Us
Michael Rice



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Posted by: Sw▲ggy J 19th September 2018, 09:29 AM

The BBC has today confirmed participation in Tel Aviv, as well as opening the submission process for songs

Posted by: ScottyEm 2nd October 2018, 04:27 PM

While it hasn't been confirmed, the host for YouDecide is very likely to be at MediaCity in Manchester. Given it's 6 miles away from me, I shall go the ball!

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 2nd October 2018, 05:25 PM

By then I will be living back in the Quays so will apply for tickets for sure!

Posted by: Hans 2nd October 2018, 07:07 PM

QUOTE(ScottyEm @ Oct 2 2018, 05:27 PM)

Posted by: Jase 🎃 2nd October 2018, 09:44 PM

QUOTE(Hans @ Oct 2 2018, 08:07 PM)

Omg yes!! I could go!

Posted by: jamiecymru 29th November 2018, 02:30 PM

Hi there anyone know if there is any update on this:

Ticket Prices?
Date?
Location ?


Need info so can book time off work etc

I have emailed / tweeted / Facebook Eurovision and no reply. I would of thought at least they would email back to say receive email and get in touch with me when has more info.

I am signed up to newsletter.

Posted by: Suedehead2 29th November 2018, 05:22 PM

The details for this year were announced in mid-November, so there should be an announcement pretty soon.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 30th November 2018, 10:06 AM

6 acts but only 3 songs will be performed at You Decide. Interesting!

Posted by: jamiecymru 30th November 2018, 10:43 AM

Unsure if like the new format.

Also no details as of yet the date , how many tickets , Ticket prices , when released

At least we know exact location and a month

But still no further down line with full info.

Posted by: S▲nta J 30th November 2018, 10:45 AM

Manchester has also been confirmed as the host city, with Mel and Måns returning as the hosts. No specific date announced yet but they’ve said it will be February.

I’m happy they’re trying to shake it up slightly and hopefully there’s more focus on the song by doing it this way.

Posted by: Iz~ 30th November 2018, 10:50 AM

Most likely 3 poorly written bland MoR songs that will force the public to make the significant choice of a single stubbled guy or a single waifish blonde girl singing it. No instruments on stage or anything vaguely interesting. Es ist verboten in Britannieneurovisionenzeugen.

I can’t think of a single ‘compete to sing the song’ NF that’s worked out well. It just makes it plainly obvious it’s not their song.

(Love to be wrong)

Posted by: gooddelta 30th November 2018, 10:57 AM

Germany 2010 had the same format. I remember some other girl singing Satellite too, and Lena had another track called Bee.

Posted by: S▲nta J 30th November 2018, 11:23 AM

Yes, the format does have some success, "It's My Time" was similar (but I think that was just the one song if I remember correctly) and brought our best result of the past ten years. But the format also gave us Germany's "Perfect Life" in 2017

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Nov 29 2018, 05:22 PM)

Posted by: Iz~ 30th November 2018, 11:33 AM

Right yes, Satellite. Let’s hold out hope for a performer as charismatic as Lena then. That seems likely.

Posted by: Ryan. 30th November 2018, 01:41 PM

Yeah it reminds me of Germany 2017 format rather than 2010 unfortunately

Posted by: LexC 30th November 2018, 07:24 PM

Yeah to me it reads more "only three of the submitted songs were actually any good and we've already booked a NF the length of a six song show"

Posted by: LexC 30th November 2018, 07:26 PM

Although the optimist in me wants to see this as a consequence of the best song being given to a relatively inexperienced performer two years in a row and they're trying to hedge their bets.

Posted by: Klaus 30th November 2018, 08:22 PM

QUOTE(LexC @ Nov 30 2018, 07:24 PM)

Posted by: jamiecymru 21st December 2018, 12:58 PM

I am starting to think there are no audience tickets now or very limited.

It is a few days before Christmas and in previous years ticket information and ticket prices etc info would of been released by now.

Anymore longer and I wont be able to go this year despite going previous years to Brighton Dome / London.

I have emailed Eurovision / BBC etc, and no replys, despite sending 3 emails between November and now.

It is really unacceptable that they have left it this late, with no exact date of the Event, no ticket information etc.

I know this is probably not the place to vent my anger, but despite everyone I have emailed have not got back to me, unsure what to do next.

It is very poor planning of BBC !

Posted by: jamiecymru 23rd December 2018, 07:46 PM

HQ1 holds 1000 tickets

Brighton dome holds 1,850 tickets

So will be half the amount of tickets as
Last year I suspect.

Posted by: CarrotNinja 26th December 2018, 05:12 PM

Hopefully they pick someone who can sing and perform well on a stage.

Posted by: jamiecymru 28th December 2018, 09:34 AM

And still no news. I have decided that I will not be going now to
Manchester or watching on tv. Eurovision UK You Decide can do one !

Posted by: LexC 1st January 2019, 05:31 PM

Story seems to have come and gone in the last few days of 2018 about Tulisa being involved in the UK NF - her people have quite swiftly poo-poo'd the idea of her being a contestant but it's not impossible that she's one of the songwriters was implied...I think?

Posted by: Conderella 1st January 2019, 07:55 PM

well UK is not new to sending below average artists that are struggling to get fame and recognition back on their side again so I guess why not

Posted by: AdamAloud 11th January 2019, 11:03 AM

National Final is set for Friday 8th February on BBC2.

Posted by: jamiecymru 11th January 2019, 07:29 PM

Ballot tickets apply now and you will know 7 days in advance if your successful as I preview to myself it would be free tickets . Bbc is going backwards not forwards. Last year thought the planning was superb plenty of notice and now not much time for people after finding out if successful with tickets can book
Hotels and train tickets etc what a disgrace !!

Posted by: J▲hq 11th January 2019, 07:38 PM

I mean you do realise that the vast majority of viewers will be watching from at home, and that it is primarily a TV show..? As long as the BBC can fill the studio so that it looks full on screen, I doubt they care too much about anyone else nor should they need to.

Posted by: jamiecymru 11th January 2019, 07:43 PM

My email complaint to BBC emailed as follows:
Hi there I Am writing in reference to this years BBC Eurovision 2019 You Decide competition show.

Last year me and my partner travelled from Wales to Brighton for the 2018 completion booked our hotel and train travel and ticket for the event in December 2017 ready for February 2018.

This year BBC have left it to less than a month away to reveal 1/ the date and 2/ that it will be free tickets this time and on a ballot basis and those successful will know 7 days in advance if the event which even if they find out sooner than this time will be getting charged full fare train fares and hotel prices as not been able to book in advance and no doubt will be relying on generous managers for time off with such short notice whilst those work for BBC the hosts the production team have no such problem those wanting to go have to go through this farce.

I am not happy with this and why when it’s been successful over the last 3 years has BBC took this decision to have less fans in the audience. I Wish the Eurovision team success but unfortunately I am sceptical and wonder if you may just have empty seats on the night.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Posted by: Conderella 11th January 2019, 09:03 PM

I'm sure there will be plenty of fans from London (?) who are able to go and fill up the room. It's not like they owe fans anything or promised to have a big national final in a huge stadium. Chill~

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 11th January 2019, 09:53 PM

Its in Manchester this year, the gayest city in the UK. They'll fill that room no bother. On that note, I have applied for a ticket Hopefully I'll be successful, if not ah well. I live super close to Dock10 tho so if it's done on post code I'm a shoe in.

It's a free event, there's no need to have a trump sized tantrum over it. Especially when there's a direct train from North and South Wales to Manchester with TfW.



Spreading events to outside of London is for the benefit for the rest of us in the regions. Not everything has to be filmed inside the M25 ffs.

Posted by: LexC 11th January 2019, 10:26 PM

QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Jan 11 2019, 09:53 PM)

Posted by: LexC 11th January 2019, 10:26 PM

God I miss Brighton!

Posted by: Brett-Butler 11th January 2019, 10:47 PM

I've applied for tickets, very much intend to make the flight over to Salford if I'm lucky enough in the ballot.

Posted by: ScottyEm 12th January 2019, 12:43 AM

I could get a cab back from MediaCity for under a tenner, so this is a massive kick in the teeth. They could easily pocket £30 a ticket but hey would rather fill the seating up with half-arsed fans. This is total bullshit.

Posted by: jamiecymru 12th January 2019, 12:10 PM

I agree Scottyem as long as it looks good on tv so what eh bbc haven’t a clue.

Posted by: LexC 12th January 2019, 01:07 PM

Twitter thread that is likely some combination of genuine leaks and fan fiction https://twitter.com/youdecideleak/status/1083859898562240517

I was initially like sure Jan but then there's that semi-believable clip of a demo at the end of the thread so who knows!

Posted by: Cqmerqn 12th January 2019, 04:04 PM

SuRie was invited back?!

Posted by: Klaus 12th January 2019, 06:03 PM

QUOTE(Cqmerqn @ Jan 12 2019, 04:04 PM)

SuRie was invited back?!

Posted by: Liаm 12th January 2019, 06:13 PM

Ooh Rai-Elle would be brilliant!!

Idk though I can't see them having nobodies/an XF reject then just randomly having Tulisa

Posted by: jamiecymru 12th January 2019, 06:32 PM

Let’s be honest who gives a shit about it anymore Eurovision bbc has took an all time low with the lack of planning of event.

Posted by: jamiecymru 12th January 2019, 06:38 PM

Last year you weee aloud to take your phone in to vote this year it appears According to lost in tv.com that you have to hand your phones in so those present in audience cannot vote . What another farce.

Posted by: LexC 12th January 2019, 06:48 PM

This is actually fairly standard procedure for filming a Studio-based TV show, anyone who's ever gone to go see Strictly being filmed will tell you the same. And all due respect Jamie, the BBC aren't obligated to do anything other than create a good TV show, they aren't obligated to cater to your every need and wish!

Posted by: AdamAloud 12th January 2019, 06:50 PM

So this is the JOWST song that was rejected.



The sudden realisation that maybe for all these years the BBC HAVE, been picking the best of what they get given after all.

Posted by: jamiecymru 12th January 2019, 07:02 PM

Last year was different enjoyed the experience at Brighton dome loved it this year it seems that it’s gone downhill. There’s a difference between Eurovision. And strictly come dancing .

Posted by: J▲hq 12th January 2019, 07:07 PM

I can’t believe that the BBC are getting stick for offering tickets for FREE! How very dare they.

QUOTE(Liаm @ Jan 12 2019, 06:13 PM)

Ooh Rai-Elle would be brilliant!!

Idk though I can't see them having nobodies/an XF reject then just randomly having Tulisa

Posted by: jamiecymru 12th January 2019, 07:10 PM

Free tickets with 2 - 3 months notice fair enough
Free tickets with 7 days notice and having to get time off work from your boss and organise hotel and transport is different.

Havent a Problem bbc offering free tickets it’s just the fact that 7 days notice if accepted is bad.

It’s okay if you don’t work I guess.

Posted by: Conderella 12th January 2019, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Jan 12 2019, 09:32 PM)

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 12th January 2019, 11:13 PM

Oh get a FUCKING grip of yourself child.

It's a TV show. The only thing that matters is that we get a good representative out of it. Who honestly gives a flying f*** about where it's filmed or how many are in the audience. They're clearly going for a show with higher production values that will look great for the end viewer and maybe drive more viewers towards it so that more people buy into the process and start giving a f*** about who we send - giving the team a bigger platform and allowing them to pull in artists with more cache and of a bigger calibre.

Use your two brain cells and think of the long game.

Posted by: LexC 12th January 2019, 11:41 PM

And the last two shows in theatres have had really dodgy sound mixes - I'd expect a much more consistent sound quality in an actual TV studio.

Posted by: Suedehead2 13th January 2019, 10:13 AM

I assume that the costs to the BBC of staging it at Media City are lower than the costs of using the Brighton Dome or Kentish Town Forum (or the Town and Country Club for us oldies). Therefore, they are better able to make it free. That said, the seven-day notice period does make it more difficult for people outside the immediate area.

The number of tickets issued for free events is normally more than the number of places available, just to be sure the place is full. Therefore, anyone staying overnight needs to be there early to avoid a wasted trip.

Posted by: jamiecymru 17th January 2019, 09:30 PM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Jan 11 2019, 07:43 PM)

Posted by: J▲hq 18th January 2019, 04:19 PM

The acts and songs will be revealed from 10am next Wednesday!

Posted by: Cqmerqn 18th January 2019, 04:37 PM

So excited this time around!

Posted by: RobBob 18th January 2019, 11:43 PM

I can't ever bring myself to have any excitement.

Posted by: ScottyEm 19th January 2019, 12:18 AM

when they sent Legends last year, it made me think that the BBC do give the slightest of shits at this old game. So, I will treat 2019 with the ever open mind I always do. I genuinely think the BBC is something we should nourish as best as we can especially on this political shitstorm but I’m reluctantly in agreement with some that perhaps Eurovision should be managed elsewhere...?

Posted by: mald487 22nd January 2019, 01:24 PM

You know I haven't actually had a problem with any of the acts we've sent since we introduced You Decide. All of them did great in their final performances. Joe & Jake did the best they could with a lacklustre song, Lucie gave one of the best performances of the night and SuRie considering what happened did amazingly to get through that.

The problem is the songs that the BBC are handing them. They are aiming for songs that they think will 'do well' as opposed to songs that will win and that is a recipe for the bottom 5.

Posted by: Liаm 22nd January 2019, 01:44 PM

QUOTE(mald487 @ Jan 22 2019, 01:24 PM)

Posted by: Queen Rosemary 22nd January 2019, 03:01 PM

Tbf though Legends fell completely flat on the night, a shame cos it sounded great on record.

Posted by: mald487 22nd January 2019, 06:21 PM

QUOTE(Queen Rosemary @ Jan 22 2019, 03:01 PM)

Posted by: LexC 22nd January 2019, 06:26 PM

I don't think it's fully about the stage show so much as I don't think Asanda had the levels of stage experience that SuRie obviously had. Legends wasn't doomed to be performed poorly but it was maybe, in hindsight, too high risk to give that song to the act with the least performing experience.

Although my attitude towards it has slightly mellowed in light of Lisbon and that stage invasion - given that guy was probably going to try and invade the stage anyway I'm glad that he didn't ruin the experience for someone as young as Asanda (not that it was good that SuRie got him instead but I think for her it turned out alright in the end).

Posted by: mald487 22nd January 2019, 06:44 PM

Good point, experience definately comes into play.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 22nd January 2019, 06:48 PM

Hyped for tomorrow!

Posted by: jamiecymru 22nd January 2019, 07:33 PM

Is there any opinion on the response I recieved from BBC which I posted earlier on the thread ?

Posted by: jamiecymru 22nd January 2019, 07:35 PM

Has anyone heard anything yet from Lostintv.com about applying for tickets I notice the website is still accepting applications.
Cue pandemonium on the day / evening.

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 22nd January 2019, 08:12 PM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Jan 22 2019, 08:33 PM)

Posted by: Cqmerqn 22nd January 2019, 08:59 PM

I applied for tickets earlier today

Posted by: jamiecymru 22nd January 2019, 09:04 PM

QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Jan 22 2019, 08:12 PM)

Posted by: Conderella 23rd January 2019, 08:25 AM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Jan 22 2019, 10:33 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 09:51 AM

10 minutes *.*

Posted by: AdamAloud 23rd January 2019, 09:52 AM

Hold tight everyone, this is our last chance for a top 10 finish this decade.

Posted by: Suedehead2 23rd January 2019, 10:00 AM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Jan 22 2019, 07:35 PM)

Posted by: Suedehead2 23rd January 2019, 10:02 AM

QUOTE(mald487 @ Jan 22 2019, 06:21 PM)

Posted by: J▲hq 23rd January 2019, 10:03 AM

“Bigger Than Us” is the first song, co-written by John Lundvik and Laurell Barker!

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:06 AM

Ooh Laurell did Legends, All The Feels and Stones last year *.* Less excited by John but at least he isn't singing it.

oh it's crap lmao, at least I'm not feeling that Michael Rice guy singing it. An All Together Now winner, is that better or worse than a Voice reject?

Posted by: J▲hq 23rd January 2019, 10:08 AM

The first version is sung by Michael Rice, winner of ‘All Together Now’. Sadly it isn’t a banger like any of those songs, it’s quite typical X Factor winners single.

Posted by: AdamAloud 23rd January 2019, 10:09 AM

It's definitely a John Lundvik Melfest reject.

Posted by: J▲hq 23rd January 2019, 10:11 AM

Holly Tandy from X Factor 2017 is doing the second version of it.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:11 AM

Jesus wept this legit sounds like something someone would release after Pop Idol in like 2003

Posted by: Suedehead2 23rd January 2019, 10:12 AM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Jan 23 2019, 10:08 AM)

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:12 AM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Jan 23 2019, 10:11 AM)

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 10:13 AM

The track is pretty good. Catchy, melodic and the production is at least contemporary. Huge key change and nice strings and chord changes at the end too, the final minute is great.

John Lundvik really is the king of the cliched X Factor style ballad though, I'm sure he's got an almighty one lined up for his pimp slot in Melodifestivalen. So if that were to win, and this were to win, I'm sure ours would end up being a pale imitation of that.

Posted by: Iz~ 23rd January 2019, 10:13 AM

Well from this reading it's not appearing to be a particularly auspicious start. As usual x

Posted by: J▲hq 23rd January 2019, 10:19 AM

Can anyone pick out who the others are?

Posted by: AdamAloud 23rd January 2019, 10:22 AM

The Holly version is more country, definitely prefer the Michael version of this one, no matter how clichéd it is.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:24 AM

I wouldn't say I was falling over myself for Holly's either, it's slightly better but definitely nothing to break us out of being near last. Not a great start

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 10:27 AM

There are hints of wanting to break into an Avicii style in Holly's version but it never gets off the ground. Sounds more like a filler track from Kylie's Golden.

I think Michael's version would do better at Eurovision, could see Holly getting completely lost, the production on her version doesn't take the song anywhere at all.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:29 AM

I *think* top right is Kerry-Anne Phillips, also from X Factor a couple of years ago? I think she got to Judges' Houses that time they did that weird live results thing (which off the top of my head was 2015)

Posted by: Good Old Days 23rd January 2019, 10:35 AM

Holly Tandy ( )

Her song have very good chances for # 1 in my Eurovision ranking, it will be the first British # 1 after Scooch in 2007.

Posted by: J▲hq 23rd January 2019, 10:35 AM

Next song is called “Freaks” with one version sung by Jordan Clarke and the other by MAID.

Posted by: AdamAloud 23rd January 2019, 10:38 AM

A big fat NO to this one.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:39 AM

Oh I knew I knew that twinky guy, him off Luminities

I think I prefer it as a song to Bigger Than Us, not 100% on his voice but it could be very good in the other version so we'll see!

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 10:39 AM

I love Freaks, it has a touch of Pachelbel's Canon and its many, many other inspired pop songs to the chorus melody, which is very instant.

Would definitely be my preferred option to both versions of Bigger Than Us and would be my favourite UK entry in some time.

Posted by: J▲hq 23rd January 2019, 10:41 AM

Final song is “Sweet Lies” written by a couple of Danes with previous Eurovision experience (“New Tomorrow” and “Only Teardrops”)

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:42 AM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Jan 23 2019, 10:41 AM)

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:47 AM

Girlband Maid is doing the other version of Freaks

I'm... really not sure. It seems a bit sparse and risky for Eurovision (like it wants to acapella and focus on the harmony, but has some weird production bits), maybe needs a few listens.

Posted by: AdamAloud 23rd January 2019, 10:50 AM

The girlband version is even WORSE. All they've done is tried to make it 'spooky' from Jordan's version using Audacity. Truly dire!

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:51 AM

Yeah nah at a few listens, I'm just hearing more of what's wrong with it

They better be saving a bop til last becasue jesus wept if this is all we have

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 10:52 AM

The odd production on Maid's version of Freaks completely drowns out the chorus melody and definitely wouldn't be remembered by anyone based on one listen.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 10:53 AM

I'm screaming at the weird click/bottle-pop noise

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 10:56 AM

It sounds like it's inspired by Little Mix's Get Weird era but really doesn't tick any of the boxes that make that album so good.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 23rd January 2019, 10:58 AM

Holly!

Posted by: mald487 23rd January 2019, 11:04 AM

Oh dear

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 11:05 AM

This last song better pull it off or this'll be Iceland 2018 or Lithuania most years levels of tragic

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 11:06 AM

Sweet Lies is uptempo THANK GOD

It's no Legends, but Sigala diet bop is MUCH better than Little Mix Get Weird Japanese B-Side Spotify filler and X Factor winner's single that peaks at #8 teas. I can see me really liking this with a revamp and a bit of oomph, or maybe even just more proper listens.

Posted by: AdamAloud 23rd January 2019, 11:07 AM

Sweet Lies is a bop!

Posted by: mald487 23rd January 2019, 11:09 AM

Ooh this is GOOD. Which means we won't choose it

See you next years guys

Posted by: Suedehead2 23rd January 2019, 11:11 AM

Not keen on the second version of Bigger Than Us, but it is at least an improvement on the first.

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 11:13 AM

Yeah Sweet Lies is good, like Liam says, it's very low budget Sigala, and sort of sounds like a late 80s/early 90s club classique but much better production than anything else and Kerrie-Anne sounds good on the track.

Wish it had a slightly bigger melody that spun off into other places at some point, but it's good.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 11:22 AM

Second version of Sweet Lies is a ballad Sung by Anisa. Sounds listenable from the clip but I'm getting Toni Braxton album track so it won't be challenging and is nothing to go mad over.

Definitely Kerrie-Anne for me but I feel like the public would vote Michael...

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 11:24 AM

Anisa's version is like a Monica ballad from 1998, pleasant and soulful but dated and I can't see it standing out.

Posted by: AdamAloud 23rd January 2019, 11:26 AM

The ballad version is OK, certainly seems very forgettable.

My choice would easily be Kerrie-Anne's 'Sweet Lies' but I can see the public going for Michael Rice's 'Bigger Than Us', which would be my back-up choice based on the studio versions.

Now let's wait for the Great British public to balls it up yet again!

Posted by: gooddelta 23rd January 2019, 11:28 AM

I'd rank them:

1. Kerrie-Anne - Sweet Lies (9/10)
2. Jordan Clarke - Freaks (9/10)
3. Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us (8/10) - mostly for the final minute
4. Anisa - Sweet Lies (7/10)
5. Holly Tandy - Bigger Than Us (7/10)
6. Maid - Freaks (5/10)

Not a bad selection overall, but as always our chances of top 10 are slim to none save for Michael winning and smashing with the juries in an Austria 2018 way.

Posted by: Liаm 23rd January 2019, 11:30 AM

01 Kerrie-Anne - Sweet Lies (8.5/10)
02 Jordan Clarke - Freaks (6.5/10) - the verses are weak af and bring it down
03 Anisa - Sweet Lies (6.5/10)
04 Holly Tandy - Bigger Than Us (6/10)
05 Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us (4/10)
06 Maid - Freaks (1/10)


A STELLAR line-up Michael would do best but i just really am not fussed on the song.

Posted by: Alex! 23rd January 2019, 11:43 AM

Honestly, you couldn't get a group of more basic offerings.

I think Keri-Anne is the best, Jordans is okay too. both very basic though.

Posted by: Klumzee 23rd January 2019, 11:48 AM

I'd be very happy if Kerrie-Anne or Michael went to represent us!

That Freaks song is just a no-go from the beginning for me - the lyrics are too cringe and these self-care songs are in abundance at the moment! MAIDS' version is very try-hard and just doesn't work at all. Jordan's version does suit it much better and the melody is actually decent - sounds quite Vamps to me but once again lyrics are ruining it for me.

I know Michael is a bit winner's song but it sounds more contemporary than most and the fact it's an original song that sounds like that is great! Plus it's much more instant than 'Never Give Up On You' was and that did pretty decent for us! Who doesn't love a key change?

All of these will depend on live vocals, if my two favourites pull them off then that's two top 10 contenders imo.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 23rd January 2019, 11:49 AM

Kerrie Anne’s Sweet Lies should be sent but it probably won’t be . Can’t we call up Asanda from last year and send Legends instead ?

Posted by: LexC 23rd January 2019, 12:54 PM

All things considered I think it’s gotta be Michael Rice (with the caveat that you have to be able to replicate that gospel sound with a maximum of 5 backing singers).

Anything that might win needs work but I think ‘Bigger Than Us’ has the best pre-established foundation. Plus my brief check of YouTube suggests he’s a strong performer.

Posted by: AcerBen 23rd January 2019, 01:07 PM

Michael Rice is my favourite but I think the Eurofans will finally get their way and we'll send a dance song this year.

If she can do it live I'll be happy, though always a worry with dance songs in ESC. But also we've been sending a lot of mid-tempos and ballads and bombing with those too, so I dunno! Hopefully the best one on the night wins through.

Posted by: AcerBen 23rd January 2019, 01:08 PM

QUOTE(gooddelta @ Jan 23 2019, 10:13 AM)

Posted by: jamiecymru 23rd January 2019, 02:17 PM

What a load of crap . Glad ain’t going this year.

Posted by: J▲hq 23rd January 2019, 02:31 PM

QUOTE(LexC @ Jan 23 2019, 12:54 PM)

Posted by: RobBob 23rd January 2019, 02:52 PM

01 Kerrie-Ann - Sweet Lies (8/10)
02 Holly Tandy - Bigger Than Us (7/10)
03 Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us (6.5/10)
04 Anisa - Sweet Lies (6/10)
05 Jordan Clarke - Freaks (5.5/10)
06 MAID - Freaks (2/10)

'Sweet Lies' is my favourite, though I'm always unsure how these type of songs would go down at Eurovision. But I do love the Sigala-kind of sound and it definitely sounds the most 'natural' of the 6 to me, as in it feels like the only one that wasn't written for Eurovision. I personally prefer Holly's version of Bigger Than Us purely because it doesn't sound like a Pop Idol winners track from 2003 as Liam previously referred to. Freaks is just a shit song.

Posted by: jamiecymru 23rd January 2019, 04:22 PM

Lost in Tv Email

Successful / unsuccessful ?

Anyone had any yet ?

Posted by: Alex! 23rd January 2019, 05:08 PM

Just got an email and I was unsuccessful.

fail.

Posted by: jamiecymru 23rd January 2019, 05:46 PM

I got an unsuccessful too

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 23rd January 2019, 05:56 PM

I was unsuccessful as well and I even live on the same street as dock 10

Posted by: jamiecymru 23rd January 2019, 06:50 PM

After being in work and now sitting down and listening to songs properly:

The only half decent one I think is Michael Rice version of bigger than us however I think it’s very much like Austria 2018 Cesar Sampson like.

Storm last year from SuRie was more Eurovision with the lyrics and tone whereas this year is very X factor ish.
I even thought Ryan from Ireland last year was great too.

On basis of today’s releases Michael Rice will have my vote but that’s as all the others I don’t like. It can be argued well Holly Tandy same lyrics and song but Michael has a much better voice very James Arthur like

Posted by: Mikee1981 23rd January 2019, 06:50 PM

Wasn't keen at first but after listening again Michael Rice I think could do us well but my favourite is Kerrie-Anne Sweet Lies but think thats cos I could see that in charts if you stick Sigala/Clean Bandit feat... Kerrie-Anne to it

Posted by: jamiecymru 23rd January 2019, 06:54 PM

To be fair thought even if we released a banger of a tune it wouldn’t be in top half due to political crap of voting.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 23rd January 2019, 07:22 PM

Kerri-Anne's version of "Sweet Lies" would be my first choice, with Holly Tandy's version of "Bigger Than Us" by 2nd choice. Don't think it'll be either of them, and the UK will still finish near the bottom of the pile this year.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 23rd January 2019, 07:22 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jan 23 2019, 12:11 PM)

Posted by: Cqmerqn 23rd January 2019, 08:40 PM

Initial thoughts. I’m sure this will change before You Decide!

01 Jordan Clarke - Freaks (9/10)
02 Holly Tandy - Bigger Than Us (8.5/10)
03 Kerrie-Ann - Sweet Lies (8.5/10)
04 Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us (8.5/10)
05 Anisa - Sweet Lies (4/10)
06 MAID - Freaks (2/10)

Posted by: JosephAvery 23rd January 2019, 08:47 PM

1. Jordan Clarke - Freaks - really loving this at the moment, actually one I keep revisiting!
2. Kerrie-Anne - Sweet Lies - definitely getting the Sigala vibes, not a bad thing
3. Holly Tandy - Bigger Than Us - a nice track, nothing overly exciting though
4. Anisa - Sweet Lies - it feels like a b-side by a c-list popstar from 2004 in this version, not bad but not standout
5. Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us - probably the winner lol, didn't do much for me though
6. Maid - Freaks - didn't do anything for me

I think the main problem here, though, is that the BBC are *over* thinking. They're trying desperately to engineer Eurovision hits in this show that none of it feels remotely sincere. They need to strip it back and simply write some good songs. Forget that Eurovision's the goal at all. Something like Fuego could have been an easy chart hit, none of these songs would be. Meanwhile, Toy was only so quintessentially Eurovision because it was so quirky and unique, not something that had been done before.

Posted by: SevenSeize 24th January 2019, 12:12 AM

thoughts~

Michael [BTU] - no amount of gospel choirs will make me care for this generic tune (i should just get used to it cos this is 100% winning)
Holly [BTU] - not feeling this version either
Jordan [Freaks] - i'm fairly convinced this is awful but it kinda cracks me up, especially the jaunty calling all freaks! chorus, and the mention of SOCCER in a British entry (seriously this is just wrong)
Maid [Freaks] - good lord lmaoo, everything about this sounds off
Kerrie-Anne [SL] - a basic house bop - in this field i'll happily take it!
Anisa [SL] - watery r&b version? no

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted by: Iz~ 24th January 2019, 06:02 AM

As a title connoisseur, we've done horribly this year. At least Storm/Legends had some poetic resonance despite being short, this is the worst set of titles I can remember seeing in a lineup. And it's not unimportant, a title is the first thing anyone will judge about the song.

Freaks is a song that one doesn't immediately forget, with Rich on the Pachelbel comparison, but that girlband have absolutely murdered it, they can't sing or harmonise in the slightest and it sounds like it was recorded on a tinny speaker in a suburban bedroom. Jordan is doing it a lot better, there sounds like there's a semblance of good production there and honestly I feel like this MIGHT be the best chance at doing okay and that's half based on me taking a still image of him and projecting a possible not complete dearth of stage charisma.

Bigger Than Us is horrible, in that the same song has been made eleventy-thousand times and it never gets more interesting or manages to make its 'heroic' sounding key change sound actually rousing. Michael would probably do better if they actually stumped up the budget for a choir but Holly salvages it into something mildly interesting by making it a straight pop song. Mildly only, and it's a case of whether me liking the entry slightly is worth losing out a 15th place to a 23rd.

Sweet Lies is middling in terms of songs, and the ballad version with Anisa is just really boring. Kerrie-Lee is something fun and you know, after three rather slow songs, trying something fun should really be considered. It's not that polished and I am very suspect that it'll come to nothing on stage, but it's the one track that will make those not paying attention do so.

Certainly nothing here that will get us a top 10, and nothing I'm particularly excited about, Kerrie-Lee has nothing on the excitement I was feeling about Legends last year, but if we choose her or Jordan it wouldn't be too bad. Either version of Bigger Than Us is the 'safe' choice and so we'll pick that and I'll pretend I'm not British in Eurovision contexts yet again.

Posted by: Good Old Days 24th January 2019, 06:25 AM

Honestly I could be proud if my country send Holly instead our most possible singer choice for 2019 (and other our acts from 10 previous years).

Posted by: Suedehead2 24th January 2019, 10:14 AM

Jordan Clarke’s version of Freaks is a distinct improvement on yesterday’s two.

Posted by: kye 25th January 2019, 05:29 PM

i got tickets to this! i thought i'd been unsuccessful when people started to get theirs but the email came through pretty late.

sweet lies or bigger than us to win!

Posted by: Cody Underwood 25th January 2019, 08:06 PM

Ranking:

1. 09.5 | Sweet Lies (Kerrie-Ann) - Yeah I like this type of sound normally so this is by far my favorite
2. 08.0 | Bigger Than Us (Michael Rice) - The first thing I thought about was “oh this is Cesar Sampson 2.0”, not entirely sure lightning will strike twice but it should be enough to amend the mistake of throwing that out and then getting poorly outclassed last year
3. 08.0 | Sweet Lies (Anise) - Reminds me of Jorja Smith. Pretty decent.
4. 06.5 | Bigger Than Us (Holly Tandy) - Idk it’s just there.
5. 05.5 | Freaks (MAID) - This just sounds unfinished. It’s like those songs that feature in Dance Moms that are obvious carbon copies but are only used because the original songs would have been copyrighted so hard.
6. 04.0 | Freaks (Jordan Clarke) - I’m sorry but this is BEYOND BASIC. It just screams X Factor winner’s single without the overpowering pathos. Hard pass.

Posted by: ScottyEm 26th January 2019, 02:42 PM

On balance, whilst varied, we’re ultimately left with another shoddy, uninspired lot. I think Michaels “Bigger Than Us’ will win and, whilst I’d gladly never hear it again, I think it could do ok in May.

Sweet Lies is a half-baked club-pop track. The melody needs to dip and rise and production needs beefing up, but I’m reluctantly opting for this is my favourite.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 27th January 2019, 04:36 PM

Not a huge fan of any, but my fave is Jordan's Freaks. He sounds a bit like Gerard Way

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th February 2019, 01:28 PM

Tonight at 7.30pm!

In terms of YouTube views, here are the ‘favourites’.

01. Kerrie-Anne - Sweet Lies: 164,000 views
02. Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us: 130,000 views
03. Jordan Clarke - Freaks: 96,000 views
04. Holly Tandy - Bigger Than Us: 69,000 views
05. MAID - Freaks: 47,000 views
06. Anisa - Sweet Lies: 44,000 views

Jordan Clarke is my favourite, but I can see Michael Rice winning.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 02:03 PM

I can't really see past Michael winning but there's that niggle that Jordan will do it... I'm under no illusion that any of them would really do anything but it'd be nice to like the song we come 24th with, so it has to be Kerrie-Anne for me.

Eurofans on my Twitter seem to be all over Michael's BTU for some reason.

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 8th February 2019, 02:36 PM

Finally getting around to listening to the songs...

08.5 Anisa - Sweet Lies > Looove the 90's RnB vibe to this. It's very Mariah/Ariana I think! <

07.0 Holly Tandy - Bigger Than Us > This is cute. I like the slight Country-vibe to it. It's got potential to grow further and is cute. <

05.5 Jordan Clarke - Freaks > The piano in the verses reminds me of a recent Panic! song. It's pretty basic and safe. <

08.5 Kerri-Anne - Sweet Lies > Love ths Sigala-esque feel to this. It suits the song! A bop. <

06.5 MAID - Freaks > There's something very Machine Gun Kelly - Bad Things about this. But the chorus is an actual mess and is all over the place, but I kinda like it?!??! <

08.0 Michael Rice - Bigger Than Us > I'm a sucker for a big all out pop song like this. I'm won't even be mad if it gets sent tbh. Liking this! <

Faves:
Kerri-Anne
Anisa
Michael Rice
Holly Tandy
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MAID
Jordan Clarke

Basically avoid 'Freaks' and I won't mind who is picked tbh.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th February 2019, 02:40 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 8 2019, 02:03 PM)

Posted by: LexC 8th February 2019, 07:00 PM

Ready for this shetshow, have got my supplies of alcohol in.

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 07:22 PM

The One Show showing clips from 1992 and reminiscing over Terry Wogan's 'commentary'.

No wonder the UK is in such a state at Eurovision.

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 07:38 PM

Okay Kerrie Anne to win even more now she's repping for Fuego.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 07:38 PM

Omg queen of taste

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th February 2019, 07:40 PM

Omg Fuego

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 07:40 PM

Vocally very reliable for such an uptempo aswell! Rooting for this for sure

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 07:42 PM

Kerrie-Anne's vocals were a bit off, which was a shame as it was my favourite song before. Hopefully she gets through the sing-off.

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 07:42 PM

Imagine Kerrie-Anne doing 'Legends' this year, ah well.

She did it very well, definitely should win the song-off without hearing Anisa.

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 07:47 PM

The second version of this is bloody awful, its just a snoozefest. I hope the judges choose the dance version.

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 07:49 PM

Can these three just pick the actual winner, I do not trust the British public.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 07:49 PM

Anisa was so nasally Kerrie-Anne was definitely MUCH better, the only option really.

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 07:50 PM

Not a fan of FREAKS, probably the worst track of the lot

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 07:52 PM

I have a terrible feeling.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 07:54 PM

Jordan annoys me. He is quite annoying. His version of "Freaks" has grown on me though.

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 07:54 PM

Sounds like a McFly reject track so cheesey

Posted by: King Rollo 8th February 2019, 07:57 PM

I'm hearing all these songs for the first time. They made the right choice for the first song. I enjoyed that 'Freaks' song,very catchy.

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 07:57 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Feb 8 2019, 07:54 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 07:57 PM

I think he sold that really well, not a massive fan of it but I'd certainly take it over Bigger Than Us and his performance was as good as Kerrie Anne's.

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:00 PM

I didn't think MAID could get worse. Jesus wept.

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 08:00 PM

Wow, this is somehow even worse live. The harmonies, SHEESH.

The song is just dire though. Jordan elevated it the best he could but I was still cringing because the song simply isn't good enough. Literally any of the other options pls.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:00 PM

Good christ this is EMBARRASSING This is literally giving me X Factor girlband at bootcamp who were thrown together backstage 5 minutes ago and weren't allowed to rehearse.

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 8th February 2019, 08:00 PM

I assume it was a creative decision for Maid to not sing in tune

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:00 PM

There's a disconnect between Maid's image and their version of the song, it just doesn't work.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:01 PM

SCREAMING at "people said you're nice but that was shit"

Posted by: King Rollo 8th February 2019, 08:02 PM

Jordan's version was much better.

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 08:04 PM

Well that was a sure thing.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:05 PM

What song is being used as the bed music for Nandy's intro? It sounds familiar.

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:06 PM

Oh NO to the cowboy backing dancers!

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th February 2019, 08:07 PM

MAID were incredibly poor!

Jordan to win tho pls

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:07 PM

VOTE FOR THE COWBOYS WE HAVE COWBOYS.

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:08 PM

These dancers Terrible!

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:08 PM

Best of the night and I wasn't a fan of her version before tonight.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:08 PM

THESE BLOODY DANCERS


This is all actually so embarrassing. I think she's given the best performance of the night in herself though.

Posted by: King Rollo 8th February 2019, 08:09 PM

Her vocals were very good on that one.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:09 PM

And now Holly's my favourite. I enjoyed that performance.

Did you know she's seventeen? I don't think it's been brought up yet.

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 08:11 PM

I can see them putting Holly through just to have some female representation in the final three.

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 08:12 PM

There is only one good track and that is Kerrie's version

I wouldn't be surprised the British public will vote this track to represent us.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:12 PM

A decent performance, I think Michael's going back to his waffle shop. Still, can't fault his business savvy.

Posted by: dandy* 8th February 2019, 08:13 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Feb 8 2019, 08:11 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:13 PM

Am I the only one who just does not like Michael's version of Bigger Than Us? My Twitter is going mad over it

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 8th February 2019, 08:13 PM

"Winner of All Together Now series 1"

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 08:14 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Feb 8 2019, 08:13 PM)

Aside from the first woman?

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 08:14 PM

I'm really torn on this one. Got to hand it to Michael, that was note perfect, he's a fantastic vocallist and the choir ending does feel like a bigger impact.

Posted by: dandy* 8th February 2019, 08:14 PM

We're slightly behind but this sounds like a Westlife song to me.

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 08:14 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 8 2019, 08:13 PM)

Am I the only one who just does not like Michael's version of Bigger Than Us? My Twitter is going mad over it

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:15 PM

That was awful too

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th February 2019, 08:15 PM

Oh wow, Holly was incredible! Definitely my favourite now.

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 08:15 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Feb 8 2019, 08:12 PM)

Posted by: King Rollo 8th February 2019, 08:16 PM

The third decision is tougher,but I would pick the Holly version.

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:16 PM

"the James Arthur's" MESS

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:16 PM

"Eurovision winning performance" AS IF LMAOOOOO good lord

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 08:17 PM

To be honest I saw that coming

Posted by: dandy* 8th February 2019, 08:18 PM

The public will choose the last one.

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 08:19 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Feb 8 2019, 08:18 PM)

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 08:19 PM

I mean, we're all being harsh and yes, I'm aware it was 10 years ago, but It's My Time was pretty much an X Factor winner sold to shit by a fantastic vocallist and I'd personally say the same for Michael. He's got to be rewarded by the juries for the vocals and plenty of ballad-by-numbers have done well in the past years so yeah... I'd go with that as much as I love Sweet Lies most.

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:20 PM

Kerrie-Anne please, although I wouldn't be mad at Michael. So Jordan will win.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:22 PM

We're gonna come like 22nd no matter which of the three wins (Michael maybe like 18th instead wow x), so I'd rather like the song we have

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:23 PM

well this is repetitive

Posted by: troylovesmusic 8th February 2019, 08:24 PM

For god sake Micheal is bland . Can we send Kerrie Anne please !

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:24 PM

I think Bigger Than Us is our best chance, in a Lucie Jones top 10 with the jury but nowhere on the televote way, but I'd rather bop to Sweet Lies all the way to Tel Aviv.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:24 PM

Kerri-Anne's 2nd performance was much better. Just as well she got a repeat performance.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:25 PM

I'm sure the voters will make the right decision. After all, the British public have impeccable taste when it comes to Europe-related decision making.

Posted by: dandy* 8th February 2019, 08:26 PM

GOD I LOVE MEL

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:27 PM

It pains me that we're so crap at Eurovision, if only because I need Mel Giedroyc to host the whole shebang.

Posted by: LexC 8th February 2019, 08:27 PM

They picked the right one in each duelsong-off. I think Kerrie-Anne and Michael are ultimately gonna get pretty much the same result so it's a matter of what you'd rather go down in flames doing. And I'd rather go down with that cheap poppers hit with "Sweet Lies".

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:27 PM

what is this catastrophe

Posted by: dandy* 8th February 2019, 08:28 PM

I feel sorry for this guy, he was given such a shit song. It sort of feels like it should be aiming to be a MCR track or something but it's ended up sounding like a kids tv theme.

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 08:29 PM

I wish the judges just voted for the winner to represent us, instead of going to a public vote.

Posted by: dandy* 8th February 2019, 08:30 PM

QUOTE(dandy* @ Feb 8 2019, 08:28 PM)

Posted by: troylovesmusic 8th February 2019, 08:31 PM

QUOTE(Mart!n @ Feb 8 2019, 08:29 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:31 PM

QUOTE(troylovesmusic @ Feb 8 2019, 08:31 PM)

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:31 PM

We do NOT need to hear this again!

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 08:34 PM

God this is painful, certainly bigger than me

Posted by: WhoOdyssey 8th February 2019, 08:35 PM

Was surprised to find out Jordan was one of the singers in this BGT group Luminites:

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:36 PM

Voted for Sweet Lies!

Posted by: troylovesmusic 8th February 2019, 08:37 PM

I really don’t think he’s that good ?

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:37 PM

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE WAFFLE SHOP IF MICHAEL RICE WINS - WHO WILL LOOK AFTER IT?

Posted by: dandy* 8th February 2019, 08:40 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Feb 8 2019, 08:37 PM)

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 08:40 PM

QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Feb 8 2019, 08:37 PM)

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th February 2019, 08:40 PM

Michael so has this

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 08:48 PM

Why does this version of Storm sound more competitive than the actual entry?

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 08:49 PM

QUOTE(RobBob @ Feb 8 2019, 08:48 PM)

Why does this version of Storm sound more competitive than the actual entry?

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:53 PM

Bless them trying to recreate a Melodifestivalen interval act.

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 08:54 PM

Katrina must be praying we never win again so they can keep resurrecting her every year.

Posted by: Jαsє 8th February 2019, 08:56 PM

f***ing gross

Posted by: Suedehead2 8th February 2019, 08:57 PM

I think it's more likely to get six points than a sixth victory.

Posted by: Brett-Butler 8th February 2019, 08:58 PM

Goodbye to the waffle shop. I hope he leaves it in safe hands.

Posted by: troylovesmusic 8th February 2019, 08:58 PM

Yawn coming for that near bottom placing yet again

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 08:59 PM

I don't hate it but I don't love it, a very indifferent feeling to the UK entry this year.

Posted by: Mart!n 8th February 2019, 09:00 PM

I really expected that to be honest, I don't think we get anywhere apart from the bottom 5.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 8th February 2019, 09:01 PM

Think it’ll be our best shot at top 20

Holly and Michael were clearly the best of the night, they sound better live! SuRie was incredible also.

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 09:01 PM

My least favourite entry of ours since 2012, I'd be very surprised if he finished much higher than about 20th. I can see a decent jury vote (but not outstanding), but a next to nothing televote.

Posted by: J▲hq 8th February 2019, 09:03 PM

QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Feb 8 2019, 01:48 PM)

Posted by: SevenSeize 8th February 2019, 09:05 PM

what an ultra safe and bland entry. if it does decently for the UK then fair enough, can't say i'll really be rooting for it though

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 09:05 PM

I expect a memorable, original, high quality ballad to win this year.

So Wiktoria then?

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 09:05 PM

I think we picked the right choice, it wasn't my favourite song but much like Lucie, there's a really good song there delivered by a superb vocal which will at least pick up jury votes. I feel like this site are always really tough on complimenting a male vocal compared to a female, but he was EASILY the best singer tonight.

Posted by: gooddelta 8th February 2019, 09:05 PM

Just caught the end of this. Expected result but the song is only ‘quite nice’, not that this was the most inspiring selection overall. The juries may help it into the lower top 20 I guess...

Posted by: Liаm 8th February 2019, 09:06 PM

QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Feb 8 2019, 09:05 PM)

I expect a memorable, original, high quality ballad to win this year.

So Wiktoria then?

Posted by: RobBob 8th February 2019, 09:06 PM

QUOTE(AdamAloud @ Feb 8 2019, 09:05 PM)

I expect a memorable, original, high quality ballad to win this year.

So Wiktoria then?

Posted by: Conderella 8th February 2019, 09:12 PM

wow this is boring af

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 09:15 PM

QUOTE(RobBob @ Feb 8 2019, 09:06 PM)

Posted by: Iz~ 8th February 2019, 09:26 PM

I feared this would happen. We've gone full 21st century Ireland.

I feel absolutely nothing from this song nor do I have any interest in supporting it. May it languish in mid-table anonymity and give UK Eurovision watchers a few more moments of excitement in the results than normal.

Posted by: Ryan. 8th February 2019, 09:34 PM

Correct choice so good work there although Holly was my favourite of the night. Credit to the BBC for a fantastically produced show, an extremely enjoyable 90 minutes! All that was missing was the songs but credit given where its due there - best UK final overall that I've witnessed.

Of course Australia will blow it out the water on their first ever go tomorrow...

Posted by: AdamAloud 8th February 2019, 09:37 PM

QUOTE(Ryan. @ Feb 8 2019, 09:34 PM)

Posted by: SweetButJonjo👻 9th February 2019, 01:47 AM

Yessss! Liking 'Bigger Than Us' a lot atm and Michael gave a solid vocal! SO much stronger and better than last years song.

Posted by: Alex! 9th February 2019, 01:16 PM

As a lot have said, it will go down well with the juries. But it's a no from me.

Posted by: ScottyEm 9th February 2019, 01:48 PM

Juries will respond to his strong vocals on the night but the song is ultimately useless. I was there at Media City last night and it was a done deal but even I was surprised how boring it was on TV. And boring is a sure fire way to get 26th in the televote.

Posted by: Queen Rosemary 9th February 2019, 01:59 PM

With all of our musical heritage this is the best we can come up with. It’s beyond embarrassing these days. ITV should take over.

Posted by: uhsting 9th February 2019, 03:38 PM

Finally the right choice made in the national finals! Best song by a mile imo as others are either repetitive (Kerrie-Anne) or musically weak. The staging is appropriate but might want to tone down the movement. I think it is best to keep it this way as a revamp from my instinct might destroy the song, so no Albania 2016 please.

Posted by: jamiecymru 9th February 2019, 07:57 PM

So BBC replied to me with pretty much can’t afford to do what done In previous years so let’s save on that and get :

Bucks Fizz, Katrina and the waves , Netta , SuRie , on the show.

So probably spent more money than before.

Judges vote in round 1 thought was wrong thing should of let audience vote / tv audience and I felt no reason why the singers had to sing again.

Michael Rice / Holly Tandy was the only real good ones there.

Crap tv glad didn’t sit through at media city now hours of waiting for it to come on then no phone to use and more importantly to vote. bbc should be ashamed of themselves

Anyone have problems last night queuing up and not getting in due to oversubscribed tickets ?

Posted by: Martyn 9th February 2019, 08:06 PM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Feb 9 2019, 07:58 PM)

Posted by: jamiecymru 9th February 2019, 08:10 PM

QUOTE(Martyn @ Feb 9 2019, 08:06 PM)

Posted by: jamiecymru 9th February 2019, 09:46 PM

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiruYzEz6_gAhWLz4UKHQeuAqIQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Ftvandshowbiz%2F8388021%2Feurovision-fans-slam-the-bbc-for-turning-away-audience-members-after-overbooking-you-decide-venue%2F&psig=AOvVaw08DzUS2ciX-vXwfwLbNSGI&ust=1549835028832983

Posted by: JosephAvery 9th February 2019, 09:48 PM

Every single TV show overbooks like that. It's so they don't have empty seats. This is nothing new...

Posted by: JosephAvery 9th February 2019, 09:53 PM

To elaborate, I looked on the BBC website, this is on ALL of their ticket applications so I assume it was on You Decide too:

Posted by: jamiecymru 9th February 2019, 10:06 PM

3 hours early don’t you think that’s enough time or should I hire a tent next time and camp outside ?

Posted by: JosephAvery 9th February 2019, 10:08 PM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Feb 9 2019, 10:06 PM)

Posted by: jamiecymru 9th February 2019, 10:11 PM

That’s why I said earlier in thread that bbc should of done what they done previous shows and charges for tickets

Posted by: JosephAvery 9th February 2019, 10:13 PM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Feb 9 2019, 10:11 PM)

Posted by: jamiecymru 9th February 2019, 10:18 PM

The bbc comment saying cutting back then not charging for tickets and paying for previous singers I’m confused .

Last year attended with partner to last years eurovison you decide Paid for tickets and was great

Posted by: J▲hq 9th February 2019, 11:07 PM

This implication that the BBC had to break the bank to get SuRie to perform....

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 9th February 2019, 11:42 PM

I’ve been turned away from loads at MediaCityUK before. It’s not some giant conspiracy, as Joseph says it’s literally how TV audiences work.

If you want in then make sure you’re first in line, or have a priority ticket. I got turned back from a Cats Countdown filming, got a priority flag on my next ticket and used it for me and a mate to have a fun weekend in London going to see Adam Hills. You roll with the flow.


This entitled woe is me shite tho has got to stop. Like hundreds of millions of people watch Eurovision annually, it’s not just you hun. The world don’t revolve around you and what’s convenient for you. Get a grip

Posted by: Conderella 10th February 2019, 02:34 PM

QUOTE(5 Silas Frøkner @ Feb 10 2019, 02:42 AM)

Posted by: Liаm 10th February 2019, 03:18 PM

With the quality of that NF, I'd be thanking them for turning me away tbh

Posted by: Suedehead2 10th February 2019, 05:53 PM

QUOTE(jamiecymru @ Feb 9 2019, 10:18 PM)

Posted by: Popchartfreak 10th February 2019, 06:00 PM

I preferred the cowboy version of the song that won, hey ho. Our chosen entry is not going to win Eurovision I think....

(Not a stretch prediction, I know )

My mate travelled to Manchester from London, got in, waited around a lot, stood through the prefilmed segments of the show, and stayed for the live sections, then hightailed back on saturday in time to meet our fanzine group at 3pm.

Posted by: ScottyEm 11th February 2019, 12:19 AM

I was in the studio for it too. BBC did good with their limitations, Mel and Mans work well together. I think we can find ourselves 15th-18th in Tel Aviv, thanks to juries identifying he at least has a knock out vocal and hopefully will connect on the night.

The song is bloody rubbish though. Uninspired, pyro by-numbers fodder.

Posted by: Whoody4Paramore 28th February 2019, 11:55 PM

Jordan Clarke has now released Freaks - such a great tune! I'm happy it's finally on Spotify to listen to now.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 1st March 2019, 12:23 PM

Kerrie-Anne’s version of Sweet Lies is out now!

Posted by: Moses 8th March 2019, 08:44 PM

Any chance our revamp will involve changing the artist and song please? This is coming dead last I reckon. Embarrassing when compared to many of our European counterparts. Cue British fury that it only happened because of Brexit, yawn.

Posted by: J▲hq 8th March 2019, 11:22 PM

QUOTE(Moses @ Mar 8 2019, 09:44 PM)

Posted by: Moses 8th March 2019, 11:46 PM

QUOTE(J▲hq @ Mar 8 2019, 11:22 PM)

Posted by: Campbell 9th March 2019, 11:07 AM

'Bigger Than Us' on Spotify now.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 9th March 2019, 11:55 AM

I can’t notice any changes!

Posted by: ScottyEm 9th March 2019, 03:25 PM

Bring on that 23rd place finish

Posted by: LexC 9th March 2019, 09:22 PM

Posted by: cantthinkofaname 10th March 2019, 02:31 PM

Is this the first time that one person has written two songs for two different countries in the same contest?

Posted by: Good Old Days 10th March 2019, 03:18 PM

QUOTE(cantthinkofaname @ Mar 10 2019, 02:31 PM)

Posted by: Conanderella 10th March 2019, 03:40 PM

QUOTE(LexC @ Mar 10 2019, 12:22 AM)

Posted by: cantthinkofaname 10th March 2019, 03:59 PM

QUOTE(Good Old Days @ Mar 10 2019, 03:18 PM)

Posted by: AdamAloud 10th March 2019, 04:18 PM

I think it's happened quite a few times. Thomas G:son has certainly done it more than once (2007: Norway & Spain, 2012: Spain & Sweden, 2015: Georgia & Spain, 2016: Cyprus & Georgia).

Laurell Barker who co-wrote 'Bigger Than Us' actually has 'Sister' and 'She Got Me' in the contest as well this year, so she's already outshone John Lundvik in that respect.

Posted by: cantthinkofaname 10th March 2019, 04:33 PM

Interesting. But is it the first time that someone is competing (as the singer) themselves and having another song that they wrote in the same contest? I just find this so fascinating, must be a strange feeling for John Lundvik to be in.

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th March 2019, 04:38 PM

#38 on iTunes (Wasn’t expecting that tbh even if only 10 sales are probably needed nowadays )

Posted by: nomadjeff 14th March 2019, 11:36 AM

It's nice but there are better candidates.

Posted by: Cameron 15th March 2019, 08:35 PM

I see they’ve not bothered to make a video for this and are now just doing the live performance as the official video... Awkward that one of the big 5 can’t be bothered

Posted by: J▲hq 15th March 2019, 09:58 PM

I’m pretty sure an official video is still on the way, Spain only released one a week ago and they selected before us. The final is still over two months away.

Posted by: Jason 22nd March 2019, 06:55 PM

I completely disagree with almost everyone on here (as always HA) and I think this is the best UK entry since Jade Ewen's It's My Time.

Posted by: Conanderella 23rd March 2019, 01:07 AM

QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 22 2019, 09:55 PM)

Jade Ewan(2005).

Posted by: Moses 23rd March 2019, 01:25 AM

Touch My Time (It’s My Fire) [Sertab Remix]

Posted by: Conanderella 23rd March 2019, 07:30 AM

jade flopped though omg what a massive flop and an embarrassment

Posted by: Jason 23rd March 2019, 06:01 PM

Yes, what a massive flop really...the last time the UK reached the top 5.

Posted by: Conanderella 23rd March 2019, 06:05 PM

yeah i know what you mean. anything other than a landslide 1st for such a modern (in 2009) song is an undeserved flop of biblical proportions

Posted by: Slick 23rd March 2019, 06:05 PM

I really liked this on You Decide - definitely the best choice. I've lost all faith that we'll ever do better than bottom 10, especially after Lucie Jones which I thought was an inspired choice with lovely staging.

Posted by: Moses 24th March 2019, 02:58 AM

Every time this shuffles on (the studio version), I actually enjoy it a fair bit y'know. I think it's watching him do the live performance, utterly cringe - the 'dance moves' and mannersisms. Perhaps it's a little better than "Storm"? I dunno. Still basic tbf.

Posted by: Jonjo 24th March 2019, 09:46 AM

Yeah. I'm really liking this a lot. I actually prefer it much more to Sweden (and I dont particularly dislike that one). I feel like Michael is a better vocalist too. There's something about it's simplicity with this imo. <3

Posted by: ___∆___ 9th April 2019, 01:40 PM

I wonder if we’re heading for a nil point with this - Europe are probably as sick of Brexit as we are

Posted by: danG 9th April 2019, 01:44 PM

Very unlikely considering the new system of breaking up the jury and public votes, though I suspect we'll still get a few points from the public anyhow provided he doesn't mess up big time on the night.

Posted by: keefyweefy 10th April 2019, 03:04 AM

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Apr 9 2019, 02:40 PM)

I wonder if we’re heading for a nil point with this - Europe are probably as sick of Brexit as we are

Posted by: J▲hq 20th April 2019, 08:46 AM

Here's the music video, looks like the BBC have gone to a bit more effort with it than the past few years!

Posted by: ScottyEm 20th April 2019, 10:48 AM

QUOTE(keefyweefy @ Apr 10 2019, 04:04 AM)

Posted by: Suedehead2 20th April 2019, 12:33 PM

These excuses for the UK doing badly really do get tiresome. Look at the chart performance of recent UK entries. There hasn't been a major hit for a long time. If even British audiences don't like the song, why should anyone else?

Posted by: ___∆___ 20th April 2019, 02:00 PM

Everyone getting hysterical over my comment It was a tongue in cheek comment to the continued mass boring coverage of Brexit and added to the fact we’ve basically told Europe to go f*ck themselves - I never think politics enters into the results too much especially as we have consistently sent weak entries but I do think Brexit will have an impact this year... ‘F*ck off Europe but we want your votes’

Posted by: Jonjo 20th April 2019, 11:37 PM

The video is really good! I'm honestly shocked that it actually looks like they've spent some time on it! Simple, yet effective. It sells the song a whole lot more too.

Posted by: RobBob 25th April 2019, 01:53 PM

https://vk.com/video-3320130_456244600

Probably the best performance of this to date! Much less cringy trained hand movements and running around as he was told to. Gives a taster of what they could do with staging that would be of interest.

Posted by: Monzo 25th April 2019, 04:52 PM

I doubt "Bigger Than Us" will become an UK Eurovision evergreen for me, but you never know, maybe this song ages well... I have to say, the only UK entrys I'm still listening to are Gina G and Jemini.

Posted by: jakewild 25th April 2019, 04:57 PM

lucie jones and gina g are the only UK entries i'd ever go out of my way to listen to

Posted by: Rossco 26th April 2019, 04:13 PM

I just can’t watch him. There was more notes off key than on in that performance. The verses were awful - he is trying to over sing it and just ruins it. He will be bottom 3 without a doubt.

Posted by: gooddelta 26th April 2019, 04:23 PM

Of our 00s entries I still love and regularly listen to Teenage Life, Flying The Flag (For You) (yes really x2), It's My Time, I Can and Children Of The Universe.

I also occasionally play Come Back, No Dream Impossible, Cry Baby, You're Not Alone and Never Give up On You. Can't say I would go out of my way to listen to the others.

But our 1996-1999 run of entries was amazing, would count all four songs among my all-time faves.

Posted by: keefyweefy 30th April 2019, 02:00 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Apr 20 2019, 01:33 PM)

QUOTE(___∆___ @ Apr 20 2019, 03:00 PM)

Everyone getting hysterical over my comment It was a tongue in cheek comment to the continued mass boring coverage of Brexit and added to the fact we’ve basically told Europe to go f*ck themselves - I never think politics enters into the results too much especially as we have consistently sent weak entries but I do think Brexit will have an impact this year... ‘F*ck off Europe but we want your votes’

Posted by: Jonjo 5th May 2019, 05:30 AM

Very good performance

Posted by: Serhat Mack 19th May 2019, 12:24 AM

Can the UK ever finish in the Top 10 in Eurovision?

What now for next year?

Posted by: Cqmerqn 19th May 2019, 12:38 AM

The BBC really need to do something, we can’t keep sending half-arsed songs and expect to do well. Perhaps select internally and focus on having a great song sung by a great vocalist.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 12:56 AM

The UK was far from the worst and really didnt think it deserved last or near it either.

Posted by: Addy K!ng 19th May 2019, 01:09 AM

it was the worst like seriously. nothing memorable.

Uk needs to chase and send some high profile figure, I mean most of the time the other countries send somewhat a popular artist!!!

Posted by: RobBob 19th May 2019, 01:25 AM

I disagree that it's about a popular artist. Do I think we deserved last? No. But after practically a DECADE of the most safe and uninteresting numbers (Electro Velvet aside and I mean, we've got to do better than THAT) - something has really got to f***ing change. Duncan Laurence is a prime example of what we need and CAN do. He didn't write this song for Eurovision, he'd have had this song in his arsenal regardless. You're not telling me there's nobody out there in the UK penning something of absolutely no interest.

I'm really not sure what the answer is anymore but the results we're getting aren't entirely unfair. The team have got to do something about it because there can't be another decade ahead of complete no hopers like we've had for way, way, way too long.

Posted by: Umi 19th May 2019, 01:50 AM

I think what the UK needs more than anything is an actual artist. The main difference I noticed between the UK and everyone else this year wasn't the quality of the song but the obvious lack of authenticity in it compared to the rest of the competition. Bops can just be bops, but when you send a ballad I really don't think you can afford it being inauthentic unless you've got Russia-tier staging. I'm sure a lot of the people in this contest were singing songs that were written for them but they were all at least able to sell the song as being theirs or as meaning something to them (and this is especially important with ballads). Michael's song was easily the most autopilot ballad of the contest lyrically and there was just no reason to find it credible. I know it sounds kind of pretentious but ballads are meant to touch people and I'm not sure if something as emotionally wooden as 'Bigger Than Us' actually can. You could feel the sadness in Duncan and the force of will in Tamara, but Michael just looked like ... a guy singing a song he was told to sing.

It does make me wonder if the UK's musical culture being tempered so heavily by the dominance of X Factor in recent decades has caused the UK to disconnect heavily from the rest of Europe in what it wants from musical contest performers. Authenticity and artistry seems extremely undervalued in the UK's Eurovision selection process compared to very mathematical song choices (key changes and money notes can make up for anything!) and someone being able to adlib effectively in a final chorus. When you look at the songs that do well in Eurovision, the priorities are jarringly different to those of the UK. Maybe it's that the contest's reputation is so toxic that actual artists are unreachable for the UK's delegation, but that's something that needs fixing if so.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 02:10 AM

The 3 points for the UK in the televote came from Ireland.

Posted by: Burns 19th May 2019, 02:43 AM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ May 19 2019, 01:56 AM)

Posted by: Iz~ 19th May 2019, 12:02 PM

QUOTE(Umi @ May 19 2019, 01:50 AM)

Posted by: ___∆___ 19th May 2019, 12:03 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ May 19 2019, 03:10 AM)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 12:04 PM

Ya that was harsh for Germany, even if they only got 1 point.

Posted by: Klaus 19th May 2019, 12:22 PM

We say the same thing every year and the BBC still send a completely bland song with uninspiring lyrics. Bigger Than Us is the ultimate version of that, the lyrics are so utterly basic, it’s not grabbing anyones attention no matter how good the singer is.

Like the Brexit deal, nothing will change.

Posted by: Burns 19th May 2019, 12:25 PM

We seem to love sending songs that mention hands, togetherness and storms.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 12:30 PM

I think both Ireland and the UK tackle the Eurovision the same way and are behind the times and the results for both in the last 20 years overall show that.

Posted by: Alex! 19th May 2019, 12:30 PM

Yeah, this was so basic.
People remember the good and the bad, no one remembers the forgettable. Hence why this flopped.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 12:35 PM

At least the UK public have a say in who goes forward and there is an event around it where in Ireland the song is just picked but after this years shockingly bad result I'm hoping that will change as coming last in a semi final is a very bad result as we were last by a fair bit.

Posted by: *Tim 19th May 2019, 12:37 PM

QUOTE(Feel_The_Fever @ May 19 2019, 12:35 PM)

Posted by: Klaus 19th May 2019, 12:40 PM

We have a say in picking the best bland song from a bunch of even more forgettable bland songs.

Have you not heard the songs we’re offered each year?!

Posted by: Iz~ 19th May 2019, 12:41 PM

I genuinely preferred the period earlier this decade when the British entry wasn't the end result of an amateur hour X-Factor (with all the awful tendencies that the British voting public tend to have) and was just an artist that the BBC kept under wraps until late in the process. Public choice has very little bearing in how we do continent-wide.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 12:44 PM

QUOTE(Klaus @ May 19 2019, 01:40 PM)

Posted by: Liаm 19th May 2019, 01:05 PM

QUOTE(RobBob @ May 19 2019, 02:25 AM)

Posted by: JosephAvery 19th May 2019, 01:10 PM

The problem is that the BBC are looking for a "Eurovision song" and not just any song. They're ticking boxes - inspirational lyrics, key change, big ballad - that fit Eurovision's vibe. Compare it to Arcade - that's a well-written, powerful, impactful song that Duncan would have released regardless. It's not forced and it's not insincere, and that's the massive difference. If we can stop trying too hard and send a pretty natural and relatively distinctive song, that's half the job done already.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 01:18 PM

QUOTE(JosephAvery @ May 19 2019, 02:10 PM)

Posted by: LexC 19th May 2019, 01:23 PM

Honestly, the first thing I would do for 2020 is scrap the National Final/Songwriting Camp set up because, save for the occaisional gem like 'Legends', all it will ever produce is bland "by committee" Eurovision songs performed by "plucky amateurs" and occaisionally you'll come across a Lucie Jones who can sell a sub-par song within an inch of its life but if that's the highest you're aiming for it's the highest you'll get.

Netherlands just clocking up their win makes me think we either have to do the Dutch 2013 onwards approach of just picking someone who's got a proven career in Music and just leave them alone to make a 3 minute song and submit that or alternatively go with the Portugal approach and just go for something weird/unique/hipster and build Eurovision up to get it credibility from the music industry and let the chips fall wherever they do. But key to both of those approaches is leaving the musicians to take care of the music and leave the television side (commentary, promo ect) to the BBC.

Sophie Ellis-Bextor had to pull out of being on the jury this year, I'd say she ought to be the first number in the BBC's phonebook!

Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 19th May 2019, 02:24 PM

So many excellent points here.

The BBC at it’s heart needs to forget what it thinks a Eurovision song sounds like and just send a genuinely good song that happens to be 3mins long. If Radio1 wouldn’t put it on the A list then why the f*** would the rest of Europe?

Posted by: Andrew. 19th May 2019, 02:29 PM

All of this.

The constant 'let's stop ploughing money' and 'we could send Adele etc' I've seen online today

Posted by: Suedehead2 19th May 2019, 03:34 PM

If we really did send Adele or Ed Sheeran, I suspect there would be many people in the rest of Europe accusing us of somehow cheating by sending a global superstar. That might even lead to people voting against us even if the song was the best thing wither of them had ever recorded. However, there is a lot of space between sending an unknown and sending a global superstar. We need to get rather closer to the latter end of that scale.

It is understandable that a lot of performers and writers fear that entering Eurovision could damage their career. However, it could equally well enhance Eurovision's credibility with the British public. There are plenty of veteran performers whose credibility has been enhanced massively as a result of a younger performer announcing that they were a fan.

Posted by: Harve 19th May 2019, 04:07 PM

QUOTE(Andrew. @ May 19 2019, 03:29 PM)

All of this.

The constant 'let's stop ploughing money' and 'we could send Adele etc' I've seen online today

Posted by: danG 19th May 2019, 04:25 PM

It wouldn't even surprise me* if Ed ending up (co)writing one of our future Eurovision entries one day (if he's willing to write for Westlife...) but there's no way will he perform it, and it'll be an album reject performed lifelessly with minimal effort into the staging which will once again flop.

*it would be a bit surprising given the recent BBC track record but you get the point

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 19th May 2019, 04:28 PM

Id love to know how many public votes were cast in the uk.

Posted by: Jacky boy 19th May 2019, 04:30 PM

QUOTE(Iz~ @ May 19 2019, 01:41 PM)

Posted by: zenon 19th May 2019, 04:41 PM

Get someone like Example or Katy B to represent us. Not marquee performers but still quite a lot of success behind them and not in the bland category.

Posted by: danG 19th May 2019, 04:47 PM

The problem there is people like Example and Katy B probably don't want to do Eurovision as it's seen as career damage. It's why we're stuck with talent show finalists.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 19th May 2019, 04:53 PM

QUOTE(danG @ May 19 2019, 05:47 PM)

Posted by: Jonjo 19th May 2019, 04:58 PM

What's the sitch with HURTS? They're huge names across Europe right? Didn't BBC shut them down when they came forward and asked to represent us? Or have I just made that up?

Posted by: Klumzee 19th May 2019, 04:59 PM

All it would take is one relatively current act to bite the bullet and go for it, the UK just need to see one 'credible' act doing well in Eurovision and I'd imagine a tide of artists would start showing interest. Most of our current British artists doing well in the singles or albums charts would be pretty successful in Eurovision with any of their recent singles. As someone was saying earlier, something authentic and not deliberately written for Eurovision would do just fine!

Posted by: LexC 19th May 2019, 05:07 PM

I don't believe that there wouldn't be at least SOMEONE. Okay, the likes of Adele and Ed Sheeran is being a bit too optimistic but someone on the teir or Ella Eyre, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Marina, The Shires ect would surely say yes.

Posted by: Jonjo 19th May 2019, 05:12 PM

Jessie J would be a good choice I think. She smashed a Chinese singing show and with the right song could absolutely be a success in Eurovision too!

Posted by: Juranamo 19th May 2019, 05:16 PM

Jessie J for Eurovision 2k20! Let’s start the campaign now. 😄

Just IMAGINE her putting out a ‘Domino’ or ‘Bang Bang’. *.*

Posted by: Klumzee 19th May 2019, 05:17 PM

Jessie J is also the type who wouldn't show her nose up to Eurovision. Considering she's already done some Chinese talent show, this would be a step up from that! The essential thing would be that these artists are allowed to go away and create the song rather than the BBC creating something 'for Eurovision'. It's why we end up with such a safe MOR song all the time. They'd never select something like the Australian, Icelandic or Slovene entries this year but they all did much better than us!

Labrinth would also be a strong artist to send to - and capable of writing a good song himself!

Posted by: Andrew. 19th May 2019, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Harve @ May 19 2019, 05:07 PM)

Posted by: Andrew. 19th May 2019, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Harve @ May 19 2019, 05:07 PM)

Posted by: Golden Maknae 20th May 2019, 03:10 AM

Ella Eyre doing a Walk On Water-esque song would be a NUT moment omg

Posted by: Iz~ 20th May 2019, 03:35 AM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 19 2019, 03:34 PM)

Posted by: Suedehead2 20th May 2019, 06:54 AM

Voting against a particular country is easy. You just vote for someone else.

Posted by: Iz~ 20th May 2019, 07:35 AM

Which is incredibly ineffective. So ineffective that you'd need a public boycott campaign which would just have the countereffect of drawing more support for the superstar to even have a chance of it working.

If the people who think they're voting negatively choose a random song, then their votes are spread out and the fans vote will carry the superstar, making precisely no difference. If they unite together behind one song solely to stop a song, if they ARE in great enough numbers, then they can push the offending song down... one place. In one set of votes.

If you use your vote to vote against someone else, it's 1/24th as effective as any positive vote for them. We send a big star on that level then no negative 'cheating' campaign is going to stop us getting on that left side, and that's not even factoring in the juries who'd probably fall over themselves to show it.

Posted by: Suedehead2 20th May 2019, 12:25 PM

No, all people need to do is disregard the UK song and vote for their favourite from the rest.

Somebody elsewhere said the the last few Italian performers were of a similar status in Italy to the likes of George Ezra and Dua Lipa here. They are probably more like the sort of act we should be looking at. I was talking to somebody this morning who suggested Jarvis Cocker. He could probably come up with something that slightly pokes fun at Eurovision but without taking it too far.

Posted by: Liаm 20th May 2019, 06:53 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ May 20 2019, 01:25 PM)

Posted by: Suedehead2 20th May 2019, 06:59 PM

I've said many times before that turning down Hurts was a terrible decision.

Posted by: Burns 20th May 2019, 08:01 PM

The Hurts ship has sailed. Still surprised we didn’t send The Flood by Katie Melua as rumoured at the time either.

I could see Måns Zelmerlöw doing it for us in the 2020s weirdly.

Posted by: Cqmerqn 20th May 2019, 08:37 PM

Can we just send Lily Allen please?