It is with great pleasure that I welcome you to our Spin-off forum!
This will be the new home for Spin-offs in BJSC! Please take the time to read through our snazzy new Central Resources Thread (http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=160533), which contains all you could possibly want to know about the spin-offs! If you think we've missed something, please let us know via this General Discussion thread!
We're excited for 2014 and the Launch of our new spin-off section and we look forward to making many more discoveries and great music in the coming year!
Your BJSC Moderators,
Cal, Jáhq, Oricon, Ryan & Silas!
And we're live!!!
Can we have another foreign language one next? I LIVE FOR THIS SHIT <3
Yes Pavel! I suggested that back in the other thread.
May as well start posting in here to boost activity. I'm in the process of updating the Spin-Off CRC so it should hopefully be up-to-date soon enough. The only major hurdle if the Stats part - any tips? Anything to do with numbers just freaks me out so bear with me on that one! Also, Tirren shall be hosting Reloaded 3 either this weekend or next week, and after that we'll be getting back into spin-offs again so what are you interested in? Dance Anthems? 80s? Asian? Nordic? If you're interested in hosting any of these or have any other ideas then PM me and we can sort something out!
One of the previously suggested spin-offs that excites me most is the demos/unreleased tracks spin-off but I don't know who else would be interested in that one. Apart from that one, I'd quite like the one that was suggested where we are all given a country and had to choose a song from that country.
I'd of course be happy to host a spin-off but only if there is no-one else that is yet to host a main contest that wants to or is able to host as it is only fair that someone new gets the opportunity to host a contest before I do!
demos/unreleased tracks sounds potentially good - I'll just have to find some fresh dance leak and hope it's not cheap
I would be up for hosting a spin-off as I want to host something contest related and there's no chance of me getting to do so the traditional way (by winning)
Unreleased tracks as in album tracks that weren't released as singles? If that's the case then it's hardly going to be any different from the main contest for me
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I have submitted a suggestion for a spin-off. I won't be revealing the THEME though, MYSTERIOUS.
i would love to do 21st century dance anthems (but only if one of me / thermo / ethan can host it~)
I'd like to repeat my earlier offer to host an instrumental spinoff just in case that's vanished off the schedule (if there even was a schedule) ~
There isn't a schedule but we do have a list of everyone who made suggestion for themes. Might try and form a schedule some point soon.
Surely we're somewhat overdue another spin-off contest?!
We had one planned for late last year and John was going to host it but then he won the main contest so it was postponed. We'll definitely have one soon though!
Hey guys!
Just so you are aware, the spin-off resource centre thread (also pinned at the top of this subforum) is just about fully up-to-date. All I need to do is re-format the Re:LOADED results which I will do tomorrow. Therefore this means that the spin-off statistics are now up-to-date, and you can find them within the resource centre thread. The TBO/Rejects/BJFestivalen results (and Will You Remember Me Tomorrow?) are in the process of being moved to the main forum due to them now being part of the main contest schedule (and WYRMT? was like an ultimate TBO so goes with them), so the results of them don't factor into the statistics but this is all explained in the resource centre anyhow!
My main reason for posting though is I'd like to gauge interest in the many suggested spin-offs we've had over the last year or two. The suggested spin-offs are as follows (and who it was suggested by as they get first priority to host of course):90s - Bré
Versus tracks / Mash-ups - Yu
Asian songs - Cal
Vetoed songs - Chris
UK #41's / Just missed top 40 (#41-50) - Dan
Less than one minute - Chris
Instrumentals - Bré
UK artists - Lee
Intros / Outros - Bal
Worst songs - Rich
Demos / Unreleased songs - Tim
Hallowe'en / Christmas - Popchartfreak
No veto points - Chris
Remixes - Leww
Songs from assigned countries - Adam
Schlager - Vülker
Anniversary entries - Jester
Someone else's entry - Leww
Battle of the genres - Frank
Missed opportunities (best tracks that weren't singles) - Ryan
Over the next couple of days I'm going to work out the pros and cons of each and draw up some sort of priority list, but part of these pros and cons will be participation numbers. So I'm just interested to know which of these spin-offs you guys are most interested in. This doesn't mean whichever gets most hype in here will be the next spin-off, but the hype will be taken into account when I work out the pros and cons of each! Of course, the eventual hope is that the majority of these will get done. If you don't understand what any of the spin-off titles mean, just post in here and I can requote the original suggestion in full from the original thread.
Also, just so you aware we will be having Re:LOADED IV and V next month and I have chosen the hosts from the volunteers in the thread a couple of weeks ago, I will contact you shortly to confirm you are able to host.
So fire away with your hype campaigns for your favourite spin-off suggestion and let's get some discussion going (well once everyone wakes up tomorrow!)!
I withdraw my suggestion of '90s' (forgot I even made that) as too vague and kind of already been done albeit in a dance-specific manner ~ That reduces the competition for spinoffs.
I'd still really like to try an instrumental spinoff but I understand if that is a low priority one given about 5 people would enter lmao.
UK #41's / Just missed top 40 (#41-50) - Dan
Instrumentals - Bré
Hallowe'en / Christmas - Popchartfreak
Songs from assigned countries - Adam
Someone else's entry - Leww
^ I like these ones the most personally, Adam's idea could certainly be interesting to see play out
Instrumental spinoff would be a huge priority for me, I need some good new ones in my life.
I like the different nationality one too, if it's handled right it could be very amazing (and fun to find a song for).
UK #41's / Just missed top 40 (#41-50) - Dan
Intros / Outros - Bal
Songs from assigned countries - Adam
Someone else's entry - Leww
Missed opportunities (best tracks that weren't singles) - Ryan
^ these are my faves, in no order! All would be quite interesting to play out.
How does one define Schlager?
90's Hip Hop anthems is definitely due a spin-off for sure tbh
great idea cody though hip hop isnt too loved as a genre on Buzzjack
i would broaden it by including rnb etc bascially anything that would fit in the urban forum ~ 90s and 00s contests for them like what we did for dance would be cool
They're basically in the same mainframe especially in that decade so why not?
Mariah Carey/Beastie Boys/Boyz II Men/2Pac/TLC coming to slay your faves
These Are My Faves
Vetoed songs - Chris
UK #41's / Just missed top 40 (#41-50) - Dan
Less than one minute - Chris
Intros / Outros - Bal
Worst songs - Rich
Songs from assigned countries - Adam
Someone else's entry - Leww
Missed opportunities (best tracks that weren't singles) - Ryan
Worst songs *.* Forgot I'd mentioned that - 12 points for the worst song, 10 for the second worst etc...
The person that comes last would have failed in their quest to find something awful. It's questionable whether people would want to spend time listening to 30+ horrible songs of course, but I think it it might be a fun diversion.
The other thing I think I suggested on Plug once was a spin off which acts in the same manner as a regular BJSC, where we can send anything we want as normal, but with a minus voting system in place too, whereby we can only distribute positive points to six songs and then distribute negative points to another six. Something like:
Favourite songs - +18, +12, +10, +7, +4, +1
Least favourite songs - -18, -12, -10, -7, -4, -1
Would be interesting to see how that panned out. The more offensive songs would obviously come at the bottom, but would people also try to downvote the hyped favourites that they dislike to stop them winning too? And what about the inoffensive songs that usually sit in the middle? Imagine how fun/potentially awkward the results reveal would be as somebody looks to cruise to victory before being pegged down by a run of -18 scores
This is all very helpful, and we can definitely take these extra suggestions into account!
One more question to throw at you all, would you like a spin-off and a Re:LOADED every month (more than likely starting in September) or would that cause burnout meaning you'd prefer a themed spin-off in September and then a Re:LOADED in October and they keep alternating each month?
Or maybe, we could start off with doing both each month and then when we start feeling signs of burnout, we can slow it down to alternate months?
I'd suggest alternate between them, as doing both BJSC and spinoff in the same month can be a bit much, let alone do a spin off every month.
EDIT: Speaking from ym point of view, both in one month would cause me to have to choose between RELOADED and the regular spin off.
ii would suggest one spinnoff and one reloaded in one month especially as reloaded is only half as popular as the spin offs so keep interest going
If both in one month did happen, I wouldn't have them running side by side - so the themed spin-off would possibly happen for the first two weeks of the month and Re:LOADED for the last two weeks of the month. Just in case that influences your preferences at all!
Well in that case I am all for doing both in one month!
Yeah that'd be ideal actually seeing as there is always a week gap between contests and another week for confirmations, so that would fit perfectly!
The next couple of Reloadeds aren't going to need 2 weeks really, that'll only be necessary from VII when the semi-finals come in. Could we possibly run both Reloaded IV and V before the next themed spinoff? Both should only take a week.
Yeah that's always been my plan, the next two Re:LOADEDs will happen as soon as we move into August anyway. This is just planning ahead after that, if we follow this plan then we'll go ahead with the next themed spin-off in the cross-over between BJSC 77 and 78 (if YBO Rejects is finished by then) and Re:LOADED VI during BJSC 78. So it'll be a jam-packed next few weeks but once we settle into a routine it should run like clockwork!
Can I suggest an idea for a spin off? I meant to ages ago but forgot. Oops.
Yeh doing both in one month sounds good as there's a lot of potential for different spin-offs!
These would be my favourites:
UK #41's / Just missed top 40 (#41-50) - Dan
Songs from assigned countries - Adam
Someone else's entry - Leww
Battle of the genres - Frank
Missed opportunities (best tracks that weren't singles) - Ryan
These would be my favoured ones:
UK #41's / Just missed top 40 (#41-50) - Dan
Less than one minute - Chris (Have no idea how this would work, but sounds fun *.*)
Instrumentals - Bré (PLEASE for this one, they are one of my favourite kinds of music and it's sad so few are entered into the main one)
Worst songs - Rich
Hallowe'en / Christmas - Popchartfreak
Songs from assigned countries - Adam
Anniversary entries - Jester
Someone else's entry - Leww (This could be really great)
I'd quite like to make a suggestion for Songs from the Movies is possible/there's enough interest. I definitely wouldn't be able to host it until likely quite a while from now so just one for the drawing board really!
OMG Movie Songs *.*
(Scrap my suggestion tho, I'll come up with a new one to host, it's shit)
my suggestion would be a eurovision spin off only incorporating songs from the finals that missed the top 20? I think that would be great
Another Eurovision spin-off is definitely a possibility, but I'm not sure about that restriction as you are basically limiting everyone to a list of what I think would be less than 100 and it could be a struggle for everyone to find a song they actually like within that list in that I can see the same 5 or 10 songs being double and triple confirmed by everybody.
With a bit of work on that restriction though, a Eurovision spin-off is definitely a possibility at some point! And Movies seems like a viable suggestion to use at some point too.
Later this evening I'll bring together people's favourite suggestions from in here with what I think the other pros and cons may be and then hopefully by tomorrow I'll have some sort of priority list that we can change around if people disagree. So if you haven't yet done so, post any last minute suggestions or favourites from the list on the previous page (or since)!
I want a Britpop one please!
I'm ok with trialling a Re:LOADED and a proper spin-off happening each month from August up to the end of the year.
I'm very cautious about overdoing it as 'constant' BJSC was what nearly killed the contest in the late 20's to such an extent that there was a 3 month break between XXVIII and XXIX where we pressed reset on the contest and changed a fair amount of things at once to try and save it. It's worked but I've been militant about keeping a calendar since XXIX to make sure everything is spaced out.
Not to dampen the enthusiasm, but we just need to be careful that we don't get too carried away at the expense of BJSC as a whole.
Yeah I think the end of the year makes the most sense to take a step back and decide what's working and what the general feelings are towards spin-offs after a few months of regular ones which we'll have never experienced before.
how about a long songs spin off as well? (maybe the month after the songs under a minute one just for the contrast )
Regarding Eurovision I'd like to see a Spin-off with National Final songs. So many gems there begging to be re/discovered.
Then I like the assigned countries and other people's entries ideas too. And Foreign Language 3 needs to happen!!
And if I may add one, I'd suggest a remix spin-off. Maybe with remixes of BJSC entries? Or a live performances only spin-off.
I wasn't about actually no, but would love to take part in a second instalment.
You can put me down as a potential host for either the BJSC remixes or live performances spin-offs (or any of the others really) if we ever come to them then. I promise there won't be a repeat of Copenhagen-gate.
Sure! And yeah it took place in the Eurovision forum but it was dragged out over quite a while if I remember correctly so wasn't quite as successful as it could've been, so it may be worth doing another installment at some point once we've gone through some of the new ideas!
Just so we are all in the loop, as you can see we are having Re:LOADED IV this week and hopefully Re:LOADED V will happen next week. And then the week after that will be our next themed spin-off which should coincide perfectly with BJSC 77 finishing. Then once we've reached that point, we'll be into our routine until the end of the year where we'll have a themed spin-off during the main contest's break and confirmations and then a Re:LOADED during the main contest's semi finals and final.
We are still discussing internally which themed spin-offs to use over the next few months, but provisionally we are looking to use the UK #41s (or #41-#50) theme first as it received the most popularity during our discussion last week and is a nice simple one to get started with. If this was to be our choice, Dan will you be up for hosting this as you suggested it (I'll PM you soon in case you don't see this) and if we go for the wider #41-#50 boundary (I think this would personally work better but I'm interested in what you guys think), does anyone have any catchy names for the contest?
UK Chart Near Misses - BJSC Edition.
I'd like to host that yes provided that it doesn't start whilst I'm still on holiday (i get back 24 August i think)
The resource centre is all up to date again now following Worldvision so feel free to check out all the statistics. Please do let me know if you notice anything wrong in your "chart runs" or points totals or anything at all as when I created the statistics the other week I did 7 contests in one go, so it's very likely some mistakes will have creeped in. So if you do spot any then please point them out!
If anyone ever gets bored and fancies being creative, feel free to make some small graphics for the spin-offs that don't have graphics yet. Or if you enjoy () using Excel, feel free to make some scoreboard spreadsheets for those contests that don't have them yet. I will aim to get these done over time anyway, but any contributions are very welcome!
I'd really like to have a go at hosting a spin-off before the year is out I know I've suggested something in the past but I've come up with another idea that's a fair bit simpler Basically, have a Battle of The Bands contest where you'd send a song by a band, the genre, country etc doesn't matter at all. I guess the rules would be pretty much the same as the Near Misses ones, except it just being a song that's not charted within the top 40 of the band's home nation rather that it being between 41-50, the 12 point voting system would be used as well.
on another note, I think a BJSC flag rate would be a pretty cool thing to have as well, that's maybe something to save for December though and just include all the nations that were active in 2015
Thanks for the suggestion Lindsey! It seems like a good idea, although we do have such a backlog of suggestions that we already have rough ideas of which couple of spin-offs themes to use before the end of this year. That said, we will definitely discuss it and add it to the list of suggestions!
The BJSC flag rate seems like a great idea though and that could happily take place in the spin-off forum like the winners rate did a few months ago. We will have a gap in our spin-off schedule for November so this could take place then, and because there will probably be a good 80-90 flags from active countries this year, you could perhaps run it over 3 weeks, with 30 new flags each week and then countdown the average scores at the end? I'm not sure exactly but just an idea! I know Bré has a lovely stash of flags so I'm sure he'd be happy to help provide the flags too!
A friend of mine also told me about a spin-off that took place on another forum (he won it, yay) where each contestant puts down one artist, and everyone gets randomly assigned one of the artists from the whole bunch and must send a song by whatever artist they get. It sounds like quite a cool idea to me and everyone from BJSC who I've talked to about it has liked it too. I'd prefer not to host though tbh Thought it was worth suggesting it here anyway if someone else would like to take over?
Sounds like another great idea! We are already in the final stages of planning the next themed spin-off and after that there will only be one more this year which will hopefully be a Christmas special to finish the year off, so these new suggestions won't be able to happen immediately. But it'll definitely be added to the list and strongly considered as we move into next year!
Also I shall move the last few suggestions into the spin-off discussion thread soon so we can keep the spin-off suggestions within its own forum from now on as I think that makes the most sense!
I'd suggest banning artists who would usually be vetoed in the main contest.
Some ideas for Spin-offs me, Lotti, Mattias, and Lindsey came up with:
Groups - Contestants are split off into groups of 3-5 (either through random.org or by choice) and given a genre/artist/theme and they collectively decide on a song in that category to send
Genres - Similar to Worldvision in a sense, each person picks a number and is assigned an subgenre (e.g. Jazz Fusion, Glitch hop, Neo Prog) and must enter something from that genre
Out of Genre Experience - send a song in a style the artist wouldn't normally do (e.g. Lady Gaga's jazz albums)
Instrumentals - Self-explanatory.
One on One - each person is assigned another person, and you give each other a song/artist that you think they'd like to enter in the contest
Epics - where you send one of the three longest songs a group has put out
Covers
Disney - send songs by Disney Channel artists (Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, Britney Spears, etc.), from Disney movies, or from Broadway adaptations of Disney movies
Soundtrack/Score - send songs in from film scores or soundtracks
PLEASE can we do a groups one at some point
The one on one would probably work best if you had chats with that person about your music tastes, just to get a better idea of the kinds of things they're into if you don't already know (I mean you can kinda tell from what they've sent before but anyway ), and there would be more chance of them actually liking the song/artist you gave them. Would be fun to also just get to know that person better. I would hate for someone to be assigned something they don't like though
I do also like the genres idea a lot.
I already bagsied instrumentals!!1
A covers spinoff would potentially be fun.
not sure if I've suggested this before or not but how about a series of contests where we pit all of one country's entries against each other? (starting with the really iconic countries i.e. FSR Rontvia, Ashton, Kylienips, FKA π and working down based on number of entries and if the country is active [eventually getting to countries like Danaelanda!])
The person behind the focus country will also be able to vote for their own songs for once!
If the Disney one hoes ahead then I think Im'ma sit it out
I'm still waiting on the Video Game Songs spin-off tbh
Disney please
I don't actually particularly like this idea for this contest but I just wanna mention it as it's kinda hilarious
My friend told me about a spinoff they had on another forum where you send a song that you think is bad So essentially you're trying to win by sending the worst song. They gave points to the songs they liked the least, so your max points would go to the song you dislike the most. I can't see it happening here which is completely fine by me but I just find it amusing so I thought I would just share for laughs
I don't think you're the first to mention that idea!!!
Idina banned from Spin offs.
I want a TV themed one tbh
Or just make a multiple choice poll(s) where you tick all the entries that you like. That wouldn't be a bad idea.
All these suggestions are fab and will definitely be considered, do post about which you are most interested in as it will definitely help to gauge how much interest there is for each!
I love the idea of looking back at different countries' song histories and the poll idea seems good, although I'm not sure we'd be able to let everyone make a poll and then have 50 polls going on at once. But we can use the Danaelanda one going on now as an example and see if they would be popular!
(I've now moved these posts over into here to keep spin-off suggestions separate )
yep I thought I'd try the poll idea myself maybe one country per week if it's a popular idea?
Yeah that would work well I think!
I've got an idea for one, we could have a spin off where every country that signs up chooses an existing buzzjack artist forum to represent, and they have to pick a song from that artist.
Thanks for the suggestion, it's an interesting one! I'm not quite sure it would work as I think we only have about 20 artist forums, so places would be very limited and we already have a few suggestions still to use that offer unlimited places. Thanks for putting it forward though, maybe we can come back to it in the future.
By the way, apologies for the delay in updating the resource centre following the Hallowe'en spin-off - I will ensure it is done in the coming week!
You could try to come up with some more artists that would usually be vetoed as a 'significant following' in the main contest
can we do 'worst song' spin-off so soon please i';m craving it
Can we get a Summer Song, think songs like Long Hot Summer erc, spin off in summer?
Tbh can we have a cat-themed spinoff? x (Or maybe a cat and/or dog themed one to widen it a bit and have a little cat vs. dog rivalry ;o)
Jadakittynia and Purrsephonia coming to slay *.*
(omg tho <3)
NO WAIT. I'll be on dogs so y'all can't just keep the Cor Lupus name. Less work for a country pun
lol I don't know how many entries relating to cats and dogs there are in the world but I'll likely sit this one out if it does go ahead as I'll have no clue other than if I search for "cat/dog song" in Youtube
Trispanielbonia tho <3
I was tempted to send a freakishly funny cat jingle to the Christmas spin-off
can this cat spin off actually happen so I have an excuse to send this?
Hushkawoofnia is ready
Also, When thinking of Spin Off's this year, I really loved the one last year when we were all given a country to find an entry from. I would be up for doing it again this year!
Any spin off would be good tbh, I just want to enter a competition
We should be starting up a themed spin-off not next week but the week after, so not too long to wait!
Would there be any appetite for a 7 minute plus songs edition?
Or something else of that ilk...?
I would have so many options for that (that I'm scared to send to the main contest) so YES.
YES I'm up for that actually! I found a remix of a classical piece which is so beautiful which I could send
Excellent. I thought it might encourage people to send something they'd never normally dare to send...
Plus I already have mental images of buzzjack members starving to death during the ridiculously lengthy dubtrack session.
Blake needs to enter that.
PLEASE can we have a TV theme tune spin off
Yes, this absolutely MUST happen!
!!! Why has no one thought of that before? Has to happen *.*
I guess Buzzjack was just waiting for me to come and save you all
OH MY GOD YES YES YES YES YES YES
Can I just enter as 50 different countries for that one then, because I have enough entries to do an entire contest of 12455/10 moments
Sorry for already using up the Arthur theme for that :'(
(sounds like a good idea I guess)
dibs ground force
Can we do an anime one first? Literally half of the TV themes I can think of are anime themes.
OOH
SONGS FOUND IN COMMERCIALS. Think about it.
Songs you sing in the shower tbh
jk
I want a Schlager spin-off.
I would quite like an experimental spin-off, where people are assigned a genre different from their own to experiment with? It could be anything from Country to Screamo
Ohhh I like that idea a lot Cameron
People already experiment tho, no one really sticks to just one specific genre. I do like the idea, but it would be debatable what a "different genre" is from your own for some people I think. Possibly.
Break out the Cradle Of Filth album tracks, guys *.*
I think Cameron was more meaning like, going against what you're most known for sending, for example I have a tendency to send pop-rock entries so i'd be assigned something like trance or d&b. Of course the majority of people do experiment and don't stay in the same genre for every contest, but I think everyone does have that genre that's their safe place or their origin, so it would be more opposing to that. I'd be up for that idea, see how far we can really broaden my musical horizons
I'd love the TV themes one too but I wouldn't make it exclusively anime shows, yes there's a fair amount of anime fans on here but that's not everyone, at least with a generalise TV theme, anime fans can send an anime track if they so wish and everyone else can choose what they like
new idea;; bjsc covers, remixes and samples edition i.e. songs that are kinda inspired but would get vetoed in the main contest because it contains a well known sample.
Ooh I quite like the idea of a samples spin-off, I think that one could work very well actually! Will definitely add that to the list we have.
While I'm here, the next spin-off will be starting next week which will be hosted by Cameron and a Green Room should appear any day now. I'm hoping you will all La La Love it!
Hype
BRB sending queen Sofia Carson
After playing some pop punk covers on plug tonight this idea came up (I think it was Lotti initially).... a genre swap spin off where people send pop songs being performed in another genre or even broaden that with a covers spin off, the veto rules would probably need to be near non existent for that though, probably just something like you can send popular/well known songs just not being performed by a popular/well known artist?
If this idea were to happen, it wouldn't happen til February, but I thought I'd suggest it now before I forget. You know the way we've had Christmas spin-offs and a Halloween spin-off, I was wondering about a sort of Valentine's Day spin-off? Wouldn't have to just be cheesy love songs (I wouldn't want it to be) and I'm sure it wouldn't just be that, people would experiment for sure, but obviously every song should have a theme that relates somehow to love or relationships, maybe even a break-up, to give it a bit of a twist? *sends 'You Oughta Know'*
A Duet spin off would be incredible
Is cats vs. dogs off the table now Lotti has been drafted into a different spinoff :'(
I'll just host instrumentals then, when that finally happens in like 2019.
(Duets sounds like a pretty good idea, surprised that wasn't suggested before actually! Unless it was.)
cats vs dogs to happen anytime soon?
also the idea just occurred to me: The Go Green Contest, where you have to self-recycle an artist you've sent before. I've got so many good songs by artists I've previously sent to main contests so this would suit me well
Country spin off please
don't only like 10-15 people in the contest actually like country music though? just seems a bit too niche but that may be my anti-country bias talking.
Tbh I don't really see the problem with having the occasional slightly more niche spinoff. I say this because I'm still pushing for an instrumental spinoff which wouldn't be a lot more popular than a country one
Well this is an idea that just has come to my head so bear with me, but seeing as we would have a new spin-off in September and then a month-gap and then another in November. How about something along the lines of this:
September - Instrumentals
October - Country (or another niche that is completely opposite to the fans of instrumentals)
December - Christmas 3.0 (or something else if we've exhausted all the Christmas songs)
So instead of having a month gap, we would have two consecutive spin-offs but, as they are niches, people would probably only have a desire to enter one of them anyway (but can obviously enter both if they wish). Yet, with them happening so close together, people won't feel left out like they would if we followed the normal schedule and had a niche one in September (therefore if they didn't participate in September's niche, there would have been a big gap from July to November for non-instrumental fans).
Does that make sense? Maybe, maybe not
Halloween 2.0 tho
having 2 opposite niche contests next to each other seems like the best idea really if fans of both are to be appeased.
I may even enter the country contest for the bants (and cos my mum likes a few country songs that I think are unknown enough).
I'd rather not have another Halloween or Christmas one this year, those could wait another year or two.
Yeah that sounds good, brilliant in fact for country *.* I agree it's a good thing to have those two niches, because then people can't moan that they have to miss out because of country or instrumentals, I'm sure some will though But personally while I'd find it hard to participate or vote in an instrumental spin-off, I would LOVE the country spin-off. And I don't mind, actually I'd probably welcome, a month off for the instrumental one. I think I'd get really bored and sit one out anyway if I did ALL the spin-offs and the main contest as well. So yeah, definitely a good idea to have opposing taste spin-offs.
An instrumentals spin-off sounds really exciting. I'll probably also try to enter the country one, I'm a bit more picky when it comes to that genre (as I am with several genres I guess) but I'm sure I can find something
For ages I really wished for another Halloween spin-off this year because I had a potential for that (and now probably have several others if I dig deep into my potentials playlist) and I loved the last one but I'm not as passionate about the idea now so wouldn't mind if it didn't happen this year (although I'm still kinda yearning to send that potential, I just don't really want to send it to the regular contest )
Country sounds perfect.
I would be SO here for an instrumental spinoff! Considering half of the stuff I send to the contest these days are instrumentals!
Country wouldn't really be my thing, but I am always up for a challenge so if the demand is there then I will give it a go. Would probably have to trawl through a LOT but I might be able to find something. Maybe.
(cats vs dogs tho)
Well this sounds like a good plan, that is September and October sorted! If you want to host then do declare your interest - I think my original list of wannabe first-time hosts has now been exhausted. I'm still giving preference to people who have not hosted a main contest or a spin-off before but if that rules everyone interested out then we'll go back and give the option to whoever suggested these spin-offs. But if we don't need to do that, then the people who suggested the spin-off can be on the veto panel as we did with Dan last contest if they so wish (so whoever suggested instrumentals many years ago please own up).
I would LOVE to do the country one as I am I think one of the biggest country fans on the site and I've not hosted a spin-off and if any spin-off is perfect for me then it's country!
If you want a disasterous host I'm available.
Practically the site's only other country buff so I'm here for that also
I am down with a Country spin off (very likely going to send one my top songs of all time to it as well so get hyped *.*)
I'm here for instrumental and Go Green spinoff
(I haven't hosted a spinoff yet )
You've hosted plenty of main contests tho
ny2 so had Cameron
(well he'd hosted one and also a previous spinoff. xx)
My list of first-time hosts was already exhausted at that point tho!!!! (Lindsey volunteered after that point)
I would love to host eventually, still think I would like to wait a bit longer to see a few more contests and how it works, but definitely up for hosting a spin off eventually, in a few months time.
The commander in chief is still waiting to host a Scandipop spin off.
Tbh just keep me on the list permanently for hosting spin offs as I'm not going to be hosting a main contest any time soon ik I've literally just hosted with Lotti though but Liam would be the perfect country host, Grant and Sam too as ik they are sluts for a good bit of country music
If we do the instrumentals one, can we PLEASE put a 5/6 minute limit on the song length (I'm looking at you Ethan)?
Oh also, just a little suggestion but what if the niche contests were 2 in 1 so you could send either country or an instrumental to the one contest? I liked how you could send either a cover or sample to Reinvention. Maybe have the country contest paired with rock as that would probs work better and have instrumentals paired with another 'not as popular' genre like rap or something, or maybe even the go green idea? it would attract more participants and make things a little more interesting
Does the definition of "country" include country rock?
Idk what that is
Surely there's instrumentals that are a standard length though otherwise that listen through is gonna be intense
can we do a 90s and 00s dance v2 plssss
there's plenty of Spinnin' instrumentals that aren't longer than 4 minutes in radio edit form too. besides instrumental doesn't necessarily equal EDM, other genres can be entered too.
can we redo a contest and see how different the scores are this time round now that songs have grown etc
or has that been done before
^ we have done a few of those. Called Re:LOADED.
I'd be against putting a time limit on songs.
Is a dogs vs cats thing actually happening?
Ryan won't allow it :'(
If Lotti's pulling out of co-hosting the cats vs dogs thing, me and my Wolfpack will be happy to co-host with you
#endtheendlesscatsvdogswar
#bothslayinthereownwaystbh
#butokdogsslayabitmore
cats
omg can we have a kpop spin off PLEASE
Girlband spinoff tbh
KPOP!!!!! YES I AGREE
EXO IS MINE
YOU CAN HAVE EXO CODY
Has there ever been a spinoff of songs that would be vetoed/auto-vetoed? They don't necessarily have to be songs that were actually submitted and then vetoed, but I think it would be cute to see what everyone would do with none/almost none of the veto rules applied!
Tbh I actually have an entry for a country spinoff. Bring it on. x
(instrumentals first tho)
Country first please, bjsc is far too generous to Dance as a genre. Give us something different.
Yeah can we not have country first, we've had like 80 dance spin-offs I swear and I expect most of instrumental will be dance
Plus I still want Duets to happen and tv themes
I've been playing Guitar Hero again recently and I thought about a classic rock spin-off? Like famous rock songs from the 60's/70's/80's?
We don't need another dance spin-off yet in my opinion, next spin-off will happen in the second half of this month and will more than likely be instrumentals as planned!
We don't need another dance spin-off ever
Tbh country can go first actually if enough people want that. Instrumentals has already been delayed by like 2 years so another month won't hurt ~
There are many instrumentals that aren't dance at all if you look around, just sayin~
(I'm not fussed which goes first though ;o)
instrumentals is SUCH a good idea - mine wouldn't be dance either, classical music is a-calling!!
yaaaas i can send an instrumental from goodbye lenin
tbh country first would be fab, I have no idea yet what I would send to instrumentals and kinda dreading looking around for the perfect discovery for it (if not going with something I already know), whereas I'm pretty much 100% sure what I would send to country *.*
TV Themes to happen soon. Thanks.
I know exactly what I want to send to instrumentals (it was actually my other potential for Worldvision II! so yay for more Finnish impakt) but will have to get searching for country!
I actually have an idea for Instrumentals, so now I don't mind
Okay I actually have a potential for country after a bit of searching It's a million miles from something I'd send to the main contest (that's what makes spinoffs interesting though tbh) but this song is quite chilled and lovely + would mean I could add Iceland to my nationalities *.* So I'm now okay with either of them going first
I actually have no clue what to send to a country spinoff, way too spoiled for choice I'm pretty sure my taste doesn't match everyone else's so I'll probably flop anyway, but the amount of great discoveries will make up for it!
Would it be too cheap to send Lindsey Stirling
If it is, I've got something of that ilk, only more Japanese electronic artcore
Yes at instrumental spin off
I HAVE
An immense chillstep instrumental so said spinoff to happen please, and SOON as I'm loving it rn
(idk if chillstep is even a genre but that's how I'm describing it )
Can we have a Math hosted spin-off where every entry has a number in the song title plz?
2017 spin-off's please:
1. TV themes
2. Piano Ballads
3. Worldvision III
4. Covers
Covers was reinvention tho surely
(Yas @ tv shows pls)
Conor Maynard covers spinoff, I think he's pretty much done every song out there
Srsly tho I am so here for another Worldvision at some point, they are so much fun *.* Secretly dying to get Turkey so I can unleash Turkish disco folk at last
I dare someone to send the theme song to Taxi
Reinvention should be a yearly thing like Worldvision tbh.
And yes to TV themes. Get ready for S Danaelanda to BANG!
And the bang will be BIG!
omg I know exactly what I'd send to TV themes let it happen
Surely we couldn't have veto rules for TV themes? Everything is so well known!
Maybe veto them based on how much discussion the show has on BJ?? That would veto our iconic ones like Eastenders and PLL
Burbe I think the eastenders theme woild be too cheap :/
I am so excited for Worldvision
yes at worldvision
Should be monthly contest tbh!
I wonder if the succeeding WorldVision editions will have subthemes like the previous one. Maybe next year will be Asian countries?
(I already have ideas for India, China, Japan, South Korea, and the Philippines)
Can we veto TV themes just to stop Dan's monstrosity
(jk that's a good idea although I still have no idea what to send to it)
Reinvention was a neat idea and all but not desperate for a rerun of it. Definitely want Worldvision to continue being annual tho! And I hope some non-European countries make a return in Worldvision III
burbes discussing potentials ban him
Another idea, I would be intrigued with a 'shuffle' spin off where countries are given a certain time to confirm participation and then the countries are all shuffled and we are given one at random to recycle a past artist from. This way it means everyone who enters will get to see an artist of theirs recycled
Oh that sounds like a pretty cool idea! Would be very interested to see how that plays out.
Yasssss that sounds fun
I also want the Cats/Dogs spin off, I am 10000% a dog person but I have a cat potential. Someone pointed out how the intro of one of my fave songs sounds like a bunch of sped up meows, now I cant unhear it.
YES that the shuffle spinfOff
Please let me get a good country
Dan can have Pupok or BuzzJack Mountain
me potentially recycling Buzzjack Mountain though *__*
Stanning Cameron's idea
Cameron's idea sounds really good, similar to the one I suggested a while ago that took place on another forum where everyone nominates one artist and everyone gets one of the artists that was nominated. Maybe people would prefer this recycling twist on it, it sounds fun.
What about something where everyone is assigned a particular year and they have to find a song from that year?
I'm still waiting for my Scandi spin off. Me, Adam & Rich as panel and everything without a keychange is banned. In true MF style there will be a pimp slot for the song with the most key changes. *.*
What would you even send for a Cats v Dogs spin off? That's a 100% non starter I'm afraid. Way too narrow a theme.
I do have concerns about a tv theme tho as you'll end up with 5min things competing against 30secs of music.
I like the idea for sure. There's some things that'd need to be worked out, especially with how you take into account the old guard and recent debutants. And then there's pre-veto artists to consider as well.
It's worth adding to the list but will need some thought to really make it work well.
Oh yeah, in terms of people who have sent artists who have become massive in the past years, those would have to be vetoed. Like a rule "artist cannot have had a top 40 UK hit or album" or something like that, and then obviously with countries such as Buzzjack Mountain if they enter, you cannot really send an artist by them... so maybe countries with the experience (ie Kylienips, Espen, etc) can be shared more than once for those countries with entries under 5 artists
Or you could use one of the inactive countries
Ya exactly. That's why I say it'd need a bit of thought to ensure that we got all that right to ensure it's a great event. Coz it does sound like it would be a fun spin off.
I agree with Phil, that's definitely my favourite suggestion of the past few pages - and there were quite a few good ones!
Meanwhile in the resource centre, the spin-off stats are now fully up-to-date and revamped to match the revamped stats thread in the main forum that happened a few months ago. That does mean I've introduced some stats the spin-offs didn't have before, but I haven't worked out who the record holders are so bear with me for that but all of the existing stats are up-to-date.
If anyone wants to volunteer to work out who the record holders are for one or all of the stats which have nothing next to them then feel free!
Is there a Halloween spinoff??
If not I'll host it!!!
Are there going to be any more spin-offs this year?
Personally I think it is best to leave it until January, if we were to have another we'd have to start it in like three weeks time to get it done before the Christmas week and because we've had two back-to-back it feels like we need a little more of a break than that. If there is LOTS of demand then maybe we can consider it, but remember TBO and TBO Rejects will both be going on at the same time so three things at once may be pushing it!
Campaigning for a political spin off in the future
songs called ghost
demand for recycle
yeah.... no.
(besides, Silas would probably do anything in his power to stop those 3 from making BJSC countries lol)
Silas threatening to abuse power what else is new
No need to abuse power when I can just rewrite the rules to suit our best interests
What about a BJSC Eurovision spin off (not worldvision)
YES
DIBS ON EUPHORIA
I have an idea for a spin-off
BROADWAY
KPOP/EASTERN MUSIC HAS TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR
KPOP/EASTERN MUSIC HAS TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR
Any plans for 2017's first spin-off?
Re:LOADED IX
Host has been appointed. Calendar for the year is mapped out already (though already looking like it's running a month behind so one from the plan will be dropped at some point)
Re:LOADED is due to start this weekend and should finish around 8-10th February, the first themed spin-off will take place over the rest of February and we'll be back up to speed don't worry!
Worldvision III to happen this year pls
Halloween and Christmas spin-offs please!
Can you leak the rough schedule now?
I really hope the country swap recycle one happens tbh
I was hoping that country swap thing would happen around the holidays
That way we can call it "Secret Santa"
Pffft I can't wait that long
Our calendar hasn't specified chosen themes yet, just what is going to be happening in each month - a Re:LOADED or a Theme or a BJFestivalen or whatever. January's spin-off is Re:LOADED and is being hosted by Sam sometime this week hopefully once she has recovered from her flu, get well soon!
Ah I see
Hip hop would be a good genre theme. I'm sure it's probably happened before, but let's do it again!
Okay we're looking at the "recycled act from another country" thing from page 13 as the spin-off for this month. If it is to happen I need a host (preferably someone who hasn't hosted before/for a while), a catchy spin-off name and a format people all agree on!
If you can throw out lots of ideas as quickly as possible and decide as much as you possibly can for us that would be fab, I'd like this to be kicking off by Monday! As the idea came from you guys you probably have a clearer vision of how it should all work than I do.
YAS HYPE!
I think it should be done the same way world vision is (post a number and get assigned a country) but maybe the mods should assign the countries?
BJSC Swip Swap, BJSC Channeling Cheap
Wait I've got it, BJSC Masquerade and we can keep country names anonymous as it's like we're posing as another country by taking on their taste/past entries?
Also yes at doing it the same way Cameron suggested! I know I'm helping Sam out with bjsc, me and Lotti did Reinvention so there will be more fitting hosts but the offer is there if nobody else wants to do it, Cameron can cohost
BJSC Shuffle would make a fine name for it I think ;o happy to see we're going for this spinoff as it was one of the more creative ideas! second only to Cats vs. Dogs
EDIT: I think I like BJSC Masquerade better
I think it'd be logistically easier to have the pool of possible countries set in advance rather than based on the people who enter the contest (could just use a list of all the currently active countries, grouping together countries that have a small number of entries). Idk tho. ~
Tbh I think it should be just those that enter unless we get a new-ish country with a limited list of past entries, in which case swap in someone else as half the fun is seeing who got your country and what they chose to go with
Yeah, if I end up with Buzzjack Mountain I am leaving.
I think the idea of pooling together newer countries is good, said countries might see it as a bit unfair but I think it's a bit shit for a participant to have to choose from like 3 entries compared to others who get to choose like 70-80 from others With most countries who are that prolific, there's bound to be at least one that everyone likes.
Yea make a rule about it having to be a country with 10+ entries? Is it purely main contest or is it including spin off entries too? I'd go with the prior tbh
I'd rather main contest
There are also a few countries from way back that have 10+ entries but would all get vetoed under the current framework, so maybe put a time cap on which countries would be available? It's Bette than grouping 20 at a time out of 150 or so countries that have entered.
I don't think it's necessarily "current framework", obv it's still within reason but the mods will be a bit more relaxed I'm sure.
I thought the idea was that people are recycling an artist, not the exact same song? (Perhaps it should be limited to say the last 30 or so contests though so there are less cheap artists and also so that someone who got FSR Rontvia isn't at a massive advantage with way more options than most other people ~)
Is it the artist or the actual song??
I'm up for co hosting BJ Masquerade tbh!
Also I'm dreading/'excited so I can complain' about people having all of the joys of my entry list available to them and inevitably picking someone like Alyssa Reid. So that'll be fun.
I was certainly under the impression that we would be recycling a past artist, not an entire past entry - I think that would work better too. In addition, I think that we should only be using active countries.
Taking into things that have been said, I'd currently favour an initial sign-up. Then those that have signed up would be assigned another participating country from the list randomly. If their assigned country has entered less than 10 times then they can choose to take a country from a back-up list which would contain several countries that have more than 10 entries to their name and withdrew only recently (I'm hoping Bré or someone would have the stats required for such a list).
So say Séyetana signed up. They picked country #41 which turns out to be Ramrynia (lucky things!), they could recycle any of my artists but not the direct song. So Iz could send Sirusho's "Where Were You" for example, but not "PreGomesh". I don't see a problem with people drawing an Ashton or a Rontvia as their assigned country, just means they get 90 artists to choose from! Can limit it to BJSC 51/61 onwards though if you wish, I'm not really fussed. Worldvision had an element of luck involved as to whether you get a Germany or a Malta so this can do as well if it wanted to.
I guess you could do it in a secretive way as Lindsey suggests, may be an interesting twist. People could then have a little guessing game as to who is recycling their artist. For example if I got Séyetana and entered Katie Sky or Cady Groves (ignoring the fact they are both Ramrynia artists anyway), Iz would probably be able to have a good guess that I was assigned his country. Adds another element perhaps, depends if another element is needed.
Sounds like a great idea for a contest, and if whoever gets Quintessa moans, let it be known that one of our recycles just WON the main contest. So you'll probably piss it.
imagine the madness if we the players were able to choose the country we want to recycle from
hehe good luck fighting for New Politics
I like exactly what Ryan said. That sounds really cool.
(but no limiting it, even if this does increase the likelihood of the person who gets me going for an old pop flame of mine)
Also... like, can I put myself forward as host? This sounds like a really interesting spinoff, it feels like ages since I've done any BJSC hosting and (backup hosting aside) I've actually never run anything higher tier than a Reloaded before.
Beaverdonia can host the next one then
Beaverdonia can host the next one then
Are we going to get the assigned countries through PM to add to the surprise?
80s spinoff plz
Pretty sure I've suggested that in the past but it seems I've never got round to posting it in here but YES I'd back that <3
Yess. 'Jimmy Dean' is getting me in a bit of an 80s mood. x
I would also love an 80s spin off, also put myself forward as a host as I've yet to do it.
Leonardo hosted 80s spinoff? I'm in *.*
Please can we do another Movie spin-off, there's so much stuff I want to send 😭
Also, a TV soundtrack spin-off too plz
TV soundtracks PLEASE
ooh I've been meaning to send either Josie & the pussycats or we are number one
I'd definitely be here for Reinvention 2 please.
(Also a TV related one)
W O R L D V I S I O N I I I pls
i have a feeling WorldVision III is definitely happening, just don't know the underlying theme yet
Worldvision *.* TV Themes would be incred too
the bjsc calendar would feel incomplete without Worldvision now <3 make it happen
can I just send a 10 minute loop of the my leg gag from spongebob
The green room for the next spin-off will be going up tonight, I'll leave the theme and the host as a surprise until then!
taraella theme pls
HYPE
#mysteryhost #mysterytheme
TV soundtrack theme hopefully, then I can get my third BJSC win with 'The Big Bang Theory Theme' (that's if Bre isn't hosting in which case he'll fix it to get negative a billion points)
Hype *.* really hope that it'll be the 80s spinoff. I have something in mind for TV themes too though so I wouldn't begrudge that if it's the one~
Hype and mystery ;o (expecting this will be the TV themes one since that's been in high demand for a while, still not sure what I'd send to that hmm ~)
I've got a few in mind for TV, so really hope it's that!
I've had my TV theme entry ready for over a year. (Watch us be disappointed and get another dance spin off.)
I have NO IDEA for TV soundtracks Hoping it's movies or a retro spinoff myself
I don't thin I'd bother with TV, overrated spin off idea tbh I think 80s would be cool.
Aaaaaaanytime you're ready.
You'll be waiting another three hours or so yet!
Hope it's not tv!
How can you do a contest on tv themes? aren't most just really short?
I honestly have no idea like 0 idea what I'd send for tv
Some have the full thing released (ie Friends)
Also, I would hope soundtracks would be included and we've already seen two songs entered into a main contest and the spin-off this year that are in that style!
Can we have a spin off where we are randomly assigned a disney films soundtrack? *.*
The next spin-off will be Japan vs. South Korea! This was suggested by Cal around four years ago now and we are finally putting it into action. I am requiring a host at short notice that can follow a calendar along the lines of this:
Green Room - 7th April
Confirmations - 8th to 14th April
Final Voting - 15th to 28th April
Results - 29th April
Firstly, Cal if you want to host then its yours as it was your idea! If not then,
top priority will be given to people who haven't hosted before followed by people who have shown an interest in this theme via their entries in the main contest, but if you are at all interested even if you don't fit those two target areas then please post away! We may use some of the people who do show interest but don't get to host as part of the veto panel.
ok fine i can't take it i'll hold off a possible spin-off retirement for this OMG OMG OMG
And we all know Japan is better.
Seriously though, this will be the BEST EVER.
The best ever will be SpinAsh next month.
Ooh I have been sitting on a Japanese DnB potential for almost a year so I already have something for this! Woo x
OMG...2ne1, Blackpink :crazy:
I know what to send for Korea, I'll be spoiled for choice for Japan
Either way it'll be a rediscovery and it will flop but it's a rediscovery
YASSSS
Odds on Yu using this as an opportunity to send Girls' Generation, 2NE1, f(x) or some combination of their members yet again: 1/2
I have an old potential or two I can revive for this if I find nothing new. Why only Japan and SK though? Wasn't Cal's suggestion for Asian songs in general? (not that this would stop at least 90% of the entries being Japanese/Korean anyway)
I already have like 10 Japanese potentials I can't choose between without even stretching too hard. I'm gonna have a hard time picking just one.(mainly because I was already looking for an in to send them to the main contest when they wouldn't immediately DNQ)
It was Bré but for the reasons you've stated we opted to go with these two on their own!
Loving the interest but it won't happen without a host!!!
Travis? x
A lot of my ideas for this are quite obvious but I'd quite like to go a bit more leftfield than just trying to send Koda Kumi, Ayu or Namie for Japan or like 2NE1/4Minute for Korea
Definitely can't host anything at the moment, sorry! Thanks for the offer though!
No problem!
Okay ANY host please, PM people you think would be good to volunteer - really needs starting tomorrow by the latest!
Oliver to host tbh
I could host at short notice but go for someone who hasn't hosted before if anyone wants to do it.
opting for a joint Seyetana/Daehun effort plz
I was just waiting to see if anyone who hasn't hosted a contest yet wanted to give it a shot! Thought there'd be more interested parties.
Well Cadelicia haven't hosted a spinoff yet (well, aside from Re:LOADED), that's close enough x
If there's any objections say it now!
Could we do a general 90s and then a 00s spin off like the great 80s one?
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN LGBT SPIN OFF
yes!!!!
it would be incredible! *.*
oh what a great idea I WONDER WHO CAME UP WITH IT
yes x
Volunteer hosts are also much appreciated!!!!
BJSC will once more be returning to Ashton next month. Our original spot clashed with Teams so was delayed. We've been waiting literally for years to host this one
I've done a spin off before with Lotti but I'd be up to host again tbh
Is it going to be Sandipop?!
Also, Worldvision to return this year please
I second the hype for Worldvision III happening in 2017.
FARM SPIN OFF
Farm spinoff
Australian spinoff?
Yes! A 'Straya' spin-off needs to happen!!
Yes! I know some great Aussie indie bands I'd love to send
So no Worldvision this year then....?
YES we need an Aussie spin-off !!!
I think people were hoping Worldvision would be a yearly thing like Eurovision :/
People also wanted BJBB and Teams, and we saw how that went
No but seriously if regular Worldvision is what people want then we will build it into the calendar as an annual event from 2018.
Are we still planning to have a spinoff starting this month? Just nudging cos there seems to be no news about it even after the main contest has started ~
(I actually thought Worldvision already was an annual event, it definitely should be IMO x)
Re:LOADED 10 is planned for this month, it may be pushed back to next month now as Phil wants to make it a bigger deal than usual due to the anniversary!
Now we have a new spinoff mod... Worldvision III when?
I'll bully her into it dw
The final spin-off of 2017 will be Re:LOADED X in the finals week of BJSC XCIX. The start of the 10th anniversary!
So the other spinoffs that were meant to be happening this year are cancelled then? I thought that reviving the spinoffs was supposed to be the main job of the new mod? Fair enough though...
As you can tell we are all hyped for Re-Loaded...
seriously though, can we have Worldvision III in January and Worldvision IV in October to make up for it skipping a year?
It never "skipped a year". It was never advertised as an annual event, nor promised as one. If a third is well participated in and enjoyed then we may make it annual which would probably put WV-IV at the same time in 2019.
The 2018 calendar hasn't yet been drafted so I'm making no promises I can't keep. If a suitable time period is available then it could be considered for it, however it is unlikely to see it twice in a calendar year, although there may be less than 12 month between them
I'll blackmail Lindsey
You can try, fail and enjoy WV-III in 2027
We all know that 2018 in Silas time translates to somewhere around then anyway
Yo I did bring up concerns about when/if Worldvision would happen again and like Phil has already said, it will come in 2018 There's already plans for what's happening when and anniversary stuff is taking up quite a large chunk of it so it would make pretty much zero sense to try and squeeze another spinoff in just for the sake of it. I'd much rather wait a few more months and have it run properly than to rush it when there's other things going on.
You're not gonna be missing Worldvision when we're in the midst of the anniversary stuff anyway, that's for sure
Yea I joined the team to liven up the spin off forum but most of that focus will be on what's coming in 2018.
Seeing as some people didn’t receive the message loud and clear, I hope this helps
Worldvision III will be run in 2018 in the BJSC spin-off forum. Dates TBC but we will take into consideration that it is in high demand when scheduling it
Any Halloween spin off??
I'll run it if y'all like
I have a bop I was only just unable to send in last years contest too
No Halloween one this year because of BJSC 100, we've got more than just the main contest planned, dw there will be plenty to get involved in from that alone without spin offs rn
I'll let you guys know asap if we have spin offs planned but let's just get 100 over with first, we'll probs have a reloaded before the end of the year. I promise you'll be sick of spin offs in the new year rather than feeling like you need to ask about if this or that is happening
So no Xmas one either??
Still wanna send me Christmas bop, which Mattias stopped me from doin by sending an EXISTENTIALIST song!!!!
The North Remembers.
There will probably be something in December but I doubt it will be a Chrismas theme. It seems like we still have months left of the year but it's only like what, 10 weeks?? So it's not as long as you think, especially when we're trying to fit things between the BJSC100 stuff and reloaded, it doesn't give us much time to play with. Tbh even if time was on our side, I'd be reluctant to even have an Xmas theme as it's probably the most tired contest you could have, we've done it before and it's always just going to be the same stuff cropping up. Halloween is a different story though so hopefully that will work out for next year.
Yah but that is what Christmas is all aboot
Vut ye are reet aboot Halloween tbh - I have TWO huge Halloween anthems - wait, I found a 3rd the other day!!
There has already been 2 maybe 3 Xmas spin-offs, I don't think that's something we need yearly or more often than like twice, as it's limiting af, most spin offs aren't regular for a reason
It's just another Xmas celebration - people don't have to take part and it can run alongside anythin else. Maybe not this year with 100 etc but next year and on I could run it with no pressure for anyone to play, just optional seasonal celebrations if people fancy.
there've only been two but there was a six year wait in-between those so it wouldn't hurt to not have one this or next year.
can we have an existential song spin-off. I had a really good potential for that but I ended up wasting it for the Xmas spin-off
We've also got end of year stuff too of course which I wouldn't want to run into. If anything was to overlap I'd say a spin off and reloaded but then there's always the fear that the turn-out for one suffers because people don't want to enter two things at once. It's fine requesting a spin off but like say it went ahead at the same time as something and nobody enters after all the fuss, like??? :///
I'll have a look and see if there's a way around it and have a chat with the other mods if the demand is really there but I can't really say much more than we'll see
Halloween is right bang in the middle of 100 tho so that's a pretty solid no I think, and we've already talked about Xmas.
We haven’t had a spin off since June , it’s needed please
Can we have another BJSC quiz tbh? The last one ended up being fun. x
Yea I'm sure we can fit it in somewhere just not now when we've got so much going on.
Just mentioned on plug that maybe we could have our own version of BBC Introducing where we send artists who are local to where we are from (town/city, county, district etc)?
Love that idea *.*
Aye champion, you up for hosting duties on it?
I gathered a fairly long list of potentials for BJSC during the years that I didn't end up sending for whatever reason (too safe/too risky/too weird(not necessarily in a good way)/'not really me'/forgot about its existence/I already sent something similar, etc.) and I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't enter them in the future, either. I guess everyone has 1 or 2 (or 20) forgotten potentials like this.
I think it might be interesting to have a 'Forgotten Potentials' spinoff, as these songs can still be great discoveries for others + they would get the spotlight they deserve.
If the crowd likes the idea then I'm happy to host the contest in the future.
(I love the 'BBC Introducing' idea that Lewis had too, btw)
I for one would be cool with that, I probably have quite a few 'ones that got away' or 'ones I was tempted to send but never did and probably never would'. I think I also skipped the last Frank contest so it would be kinda nice in that way too.
adding in: I've also had an idea for a spin-off for actually years now lol, I'm not exactly sure of the details of how it would work but it sounds doable to me. I don't want to steal Frank's thunder tho so I'll maybe bring it up properly later.
I just want another masquerade spin off
Xmas please x My entry, well artist, was STOLEN last time, missed out by MINUTES to an EXISTENTIAL, NON CHRISTMASSY SONG, and I still haven't been able to avenge it!!!!!!
Iconique.
Oh, feel free to present your idea (steal my thunder ), I'll host the next UP too, so I'm not in a rush with this (+ I guess there are no more spinoffs this year, only Rejects + EOY).
No Christmas spinoff for me ('Christmas Unicorn' was stolen from me and all the other Christmas songs can die) but YASS for Masquerade Vol. 3!!
I’m happy with that if you’re ok to host it! When you reckon you’ve got time to run it just drop us a PM with some dates you’re thinking of and what, if any, restrictions you’d have on entires (ie standard veto rules or something specific)
I’d like to see us pick these back up in 2020 but that depends a lot on y’all being willing to host as well as pitch in theme ideas. Gonna finish the year off with an updated TBO but come the new year I’m really looking forward to us having some more things going on here.
We can’t have it fall back on a mod to host everything, the vision for this subforum was always to give you guys more control over what happened here but that comes with the responsibility of taking on the hosting.
I'll host Xmas if no one else wants to and DEFINITELY need to be on the veto pannel for it after last time's fiasco!!!
Yes please,Michael. I wasn't here for the last Christmas spin-off and I've had a wonderful Christmas song ready since 2017 that I don't think anyone will know.
Okay well, my idea sounds quite excessive at first but I've always imagined it to be potentially fun. I mean the idea is actually simple - it would be a contest where everyone has two entries. So it might be interesting to look and see like, how a country might have two hits or two 'flops' or one hit and one flop etc. All in the same contest. Sounds a bit like Masquerade except in this one you would choose both your entries.
If the volume of entries is too large, I'd imagine there'd need to be semis where both entries from each country are in the same semi (otherwise everyone would have to listen to both semis).
If it doesn't work, I really wouldn't mind, I'd kinda prefer for it to be one big final anyway so everyone has two chances in the final and not have it be unbalanced. But that might just be impossible with the doubling of entries.
So how are the dates?? I have also decided on who i'd like for the veto panel.
Just waiting ro hear back from Brer and Silas aboot the veto panel and dates and then the Xmas edition will begin! I might open up confirmations tomorrow and just finalise the other dates behind the scenes to speed it up.
So, who is hosting Worldvision this year?
I'd quite like to see a spin-off happen at some point this year given I and probably a lot of us have a lot more time on our hands. I don't actually have a new idea, but there was one that I really liked the idea of a while back that never came into fruition that I'd like to try out. Turns out it's in the other thread lol~
I’m honestly just waiting for the next Masquerade/Reinvention spin-off
YES! That sounds like a great idea tbh!
I would be happy to host another spin off too if we're bringing these back (if there aren't (m)any volunteers who haven't hosted in a long time/at all), I'd also really like to see another Worldvision, Masquerade and Reinvention.
I am presuming there are no current plans for an end-of-decade contest so if there is interest I could run one that puts all the winners of the 2010s up against each other. I did one of these five years ago with every winner since the beginning (almost to the day) but of course there've been many more since then. (http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=177119 if anyone wants to know)
oh yeah rate to be more specific, what I hosted back then was a rate. (there's actually 98 winners in the 2010s due to there being only 8 contests in 2010)
Yes Tom I'm happy for you to host it! If you want me to help (themes, graphix, etc.) I'm more than happy to!
I would not mind hosting worldvision or anything language related if there is a need for hosts
Worldvision hosted sorted, let's bring it with the spin offs!
CORONAVIRUS THEMED CONTEST
A #BlackArtMatters contest celebrating and uplifting solely black/African musicians? Seems very fitting for the times and would be awesome to see more support for the community.
Could just be a very minor way for BJ to show it’s black members that we are there for them and that they are valid regardless of how the world can be.
Would not be opposed to that idea!
We were discussing spinoffs on plug.dj the other day and I think we're going for a Worldvision next (Dan has offered to host it) which I'll aim to organise in the v near future.
Can we finally get the TV theme spin-off soon, please?
Any chance of there being a Christmas contest this year? I've discovered an absolute *thumper*
Anyone fancy another Halloween spooky spinoff? This witch could probably work some magic to host if y'all were interested
I’d quite like another reinvention
Halloween spinoff would be good. Then maybe reinvention in November.
I actually have an entry for a Halloween contest
As for Reinvention, I’m on board but I am offended on Infernal’s behalf that it wasn’t named Redefinition
Would be on board with a Halloween spin-off naturally *.*
(also I'm very sorry I totally failed at my initial idea I posted a few months ago, I just couldn't get the timing right. I will keep it bookmarked and wait until I have enough free time for it).
Well, mods PM me if interested xox
I'd be here for another Halloween spinoff but Halloween is less than 2 weeks away so we'd need to start very soon to get a decent voting window while it's still seasonal! I'll message you Jupiter
(apologies for spinoffs going quiet again the last few months, I meant to try and organise another spinoff not long after Worldvision but in true Bré 2020 fashion I just never got around to it)
Can definitely try and sort out a Reinvention as well before the end of the year and we can maybe revisit the Lottery idea again for reals in the new year? We had a Christmas spinoff last year and I think that's a theme that needs a year or two to breathe between repeats so I'd lean towards saying not yet for that.
One holiday themed contest in a year is enough Id say, so halloween is a go and we can bench that again next year. (This pair are so close to each other in the time of year so itd be good to not have two so close together
still waiting for another Masquerade spin-off
It’s alright folk waiting for spin offs but without people to volunteer to host them, they will not happen
Got permission to post this in here seeing as the movies forum has been a ghost town since Covid hit and delayed everything!! Boooooooo!
But for those who are missing the spin-off's, there is a Movie Forum Song Contest taking place in the movies forum, just http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=244196 to take part!
Would be so grateful to hit at least 15 members (currently on 8 with 2 days left </3 )
Thank youuuuu
(P.s. the theme is SCORES!)
One last push (and hopefully a push for Bre in the hopes that he sees this! *eyes*)
I miss the spin-off's
Tbh I feel like we're still having "spin-offs" and they're just happening in the other forums' song contests. And that's fine, it just limits how much can be done here because we can only handle so many song contests at a time. It's nice to have our country names involved every once in a while so I miss that too.
(And if I'm being selfish I now have an entry for a TV theme spin-off and would love that to happen )
Can we do another masquerade, I'll host xxx
I was thinking about a competition where we only send from our DNQ back catalogue from the whole time we've entered? I know we do a yearly one with all the DNQ'S already but I thought it would be interesting to give each of our favourite DNQ'S one chance in one competition?
Did Cameron not do something like that yonks ago? Idk
Yeah. We have done it before. Id be happy to see it again in the future though!
Oh I don't even remember, maybe I wasn't here at that point. There are a few songs I'd like to give another chance to though, I think!
are we doing a Christmas spinoff this year?
If someone wants to host it, I don’t see why we shouldn’t have one
I'm up for hosting a Christmas spin-off if no one else wants to do it
I feel pretty festive, so yeah!!
yasss another Jafet-hosted contest!
If a mod can give the green light I can totally set up a xmas spin-off!
I think this post can be taken as a mod giving the green light:
Ohh sorry, that makes sense. I'll set it up this weekend!
Wrong thread oops
Any interest in a Worldvision and/or Schlagerfest (scandipop) spin off? If yes and with permission from the mod team of course, I could host one or both in the next couple of months
I'd be up for another Worldvision! Always enjoy digging through random countries' music to find something enjoyable.
Worldvision hopefully as I have a couple of entries for a lot of countries now
I have been quite missing having regular spinoffs (and yet ducking my own power to do anything to make them come back, my bad x) so let's make it another New Year's resolution for me to be more engaged in here and help make sure they are a thing again in 2022. Definitely down for another Worldvision soonish (and hooray for us having a host volunteer). Although yes, probably best to at least wait until we've wrapped up TBO so maybe February indeed.
Am willing to host an Asian pop spinoff! idk what the schedule looks like, but I want to do it!
How about a spin-off where I personally assign an artist to every participant? I just want to do this so that I can assign some pop hoe to Bré
or maybe something where people have to submit something totally out of their comfort zone. i.e. Pop mafia have to submit rock, indie darlings have to submit commercial house, dance bloc have to submit country, long song bloc have to submit short pop songs etc.
I had the idea that I shared with someone recently where the rules are you’re only allowed to submit songs from artists who aren’t alive anymore. Posthumous releases are recommended but you could send anything as long as it’s not widely recognised by the public. I think it has some potential to work as a theme.
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