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post Feb 7 2019, 03:52 PM
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and coincidentally she has a new album, new single premiere etc
seems a bit like a paid-by-the-label award

makes no sense at all
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post Feb 7 2019, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Feb 7 2019, 03:38 PM) *
Good point actually, let's give it to Sophie Ellis-Bextor.


Ed sheeran surely tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2019, 06:35 PM
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Ed Sheeran hasn't been around for long enough to warrant getting such an award. There's no doubt he will get it eventually but it shouldn't be until he's done at least 20 years in the business (like P!nk has).

I also think it should be reserved for British artists anyway seeing as it is the BRIT awards but it's not like the BRITs have a load of credibility to lose anyway, so as Pink would say, so what.
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post Feb 7 2019, 06:47 PM
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I donít see why it has to go to a British artist at all. U2 have already won this for a start but why should only the British receive it anyway? The Brit awards are about successful music in Britain, not exclusively British artists. Theyíve already cut down the number of international awards way too short. Some of the reactions in here are very Ďmale Britain great againí which is the last thing we need.

So typical that Pink, a hardworking artist that puts so much into her music and touring and family, who shies away from the celebrity culture more offen then not, yes, sheís the one that gets criticism on this forum. She deserves everything she gets and itís about time she actually got some recognition.
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post Feb 7 2019, 07:13 PM
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It should go to Brits as I'm sure other countries have awards that reward people from their country.

I like Pink but it is cynical she gets it as she is about to release an album.
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post Feb 7 2019, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(sammy01 @ Feb 7 2019, 07:13 PM) *
It should go to Brits as I'm sure other countries have awards that reward people from their country.

I like Pink but it is cynical she gets it as she is about to release an album.


And the majority of awards at the Brits are for British people only. They already have that so I donít see a problem.

And maybe it is because sheís got an album coming out but who cares? She still deserves it, itís not like she hasnít had the career to back it up. This is long awaited recognition of her talent.

But donít let any of that stop you from your constant and nauseating negativity about everything.
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post Feb 7 2019, 07:26 PM
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but can the brits actually lose more credibility? really don't think they can get any lower
after Anne Marie being nominated for album of the year, they're a joke
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post Feb 7 2019, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(Bjork @ Feb 7 2019, 07:26 PM) *
but can the brits actually lose more credibility? really don't think they can get any lower
after Anne Marie being nominated for album of the year, they're a joke

Shocker: your opinion is not shared by everybody
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post Feb 7 2019, 07:50 PM
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As long as they have had a long impact on the uk charts i font think their nationality should matter, also as long as most of the awards are for brits then again it shouldnt matter that one isnt given to a brit,

If anything she is more deserving than a laura marling who has had a lot of brit award success but only minimal actual chart success,

Think madonna was skipped over in case she fell over again tongue.gif
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post Feb 7 2019, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 7 2019, 07:25 PM) *
And the majority of awards at the Brits are for British people only. They already have that so I donít see a problem.

And maybe it is because sheís got an album coming out but who cares? She still deserves it, itís not like she hasnít had the career to back it up. This is long awaited recognition of her talent.

But donít let any of that stop you from your constant and nauseating negativity about everything.



While I don't think the award has to be exclusive to British acts (although I've always liked the fact it honoured Brits only in that award), P!nk being chosen over the likes of Madonna, Michael Jackson, Kylie Minogue, Cher etc to be the first non-Brit to win one is quite frankly ridiculous. Not saying she doesn't deserve one but the former are far more deserving with their longer (and bigger) success on the British charts...
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QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Feb 7 2019, 10:32 PM) *
While I don't think the award has to be exclusive to British acts (although I've always liked the fact it honoured Brits only in that award), P!nk being chosen over the likes of Madonna, Michael Jackson, Kylie Minogue, Cher etc to be the first non-Brit to win one is quite frankly ridiculous. Not saying she doesn't deserve one but the former are far more deserving with their longer (and bigger) success on the British charts...


Whatís pretty ridiculous is how people seem intent on downplaying Pinkís achievements. Whether those other artists deserve it or not, she does. Itís not her fault the Brits havenít chosen to recognise the others.

And can people stop making out like sheís the first international artist to win this award? If any of you had bothered to do your research, youíd know that U2 won it 18 years ago and theyíre not British.

This is an award Spice Girls won less than four years after they debuted. They won it before Paul mcCartney, Tom Jones, Sting, Petshop Boys and Oasis but most people deem that acceptable. Pink has been going for 19 years and has been possibly the most consistent artist of the past 2 decades with only Coldplay and Eminem really at that same level of consistency. Let her have her moment, she doesnít get many.
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post Feb 7 2019, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 7 2019, 07:25 PM) *
And the majority of awards at the Brits are for British people only. They already have that so I donít see a problem.

And maybe it is because sheís got an album coming out but who cares? She still deserves it, itís not like she hasnít had the career to back it up. This is long awaited recognition of her talent.

But donít let any of that stop you from your constant and nauseating negativity about everything.


I actually bigged up and defended Pink on the previous page, feel free to have a read.

I stand by my views, just because she deserves it doesn't mean she should win it. She wouldn't be winning a Juno award she shouldn't be winning this.

As for your comment about negativity I've noticed that is just this forums way of saying 'You Hater!!!!111'.
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post Feb 7 2019, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 7 2019, 10:48 PM) *
What’s pretty ridiculous is how people seem intent on downplaying Pink’s achievements. Whether those other artists deserve it or not, she does. It’s not her fault the Brits haven’t chosen to recognise the others.

And can people stop making out like she’s the first international artist to win this award? If any of you had bothered to do your research, you’d know that U2 won it 18 years ago and they’re not British.

This is an award Spice Girls won less than four years after they debuted. They won it before Paul mcCartney, Tom Jones, Sting, Petshop Boys and Oasis but most people deem that acceptable. Pink has been going for 19 years and has been possibly the most consistent artist of the past 2 decades with only Coldplay and Eminem really at that same level of consistency. Let her have her moment, she doesn’t get many.



U2 are Irish yes but not all members were born in Ireland. Dick Evans and Adam Clayton were both born in England so your point there is actually wrong as there are English members of the band.

Nobody is downplaying Pink's achievements at all you are just being overly defensive over the fact people think she shouldn't be getting this award either because it should be for British acts only as it has always been, (hence the name of the awards ceremony), or because her being the first international act over the likes of Madonna, Cher, Michael Jackson, Kylie etc who have achieved far more than her is quite frankly ridiculous.

The Spice Girls achieved more in their 4 years as a group than Pink has in her whole career tbh, again that's no disrespect to Pink who has an incredible career (far longer than the girls) but they were a phenomenon that she has never been, that's why they were recognised (after Paul turned it down btw it was offered to him before them) - then there's the fact that they were British and it's a show celebrating their own home grown talent.


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post Feb 8 2019, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Feb 7 2019, 11:26 PM) *
U2 are Irish yes but not all members were born in Ireland. Dick Evans and Adam Clayton were both born in England so your point there is actually wrong as there are English members of the band.

Nobody is downplaying Pink's achievements at all you are just being overly defensive over the fact people think she shouldn't be getting this award either because it should be for British acts only as it has always been, (hence the name of the awards ceremony), or because her being the first international act over the likes of Madonna, Cher, Michael Jackson, Kylie etc who have achieved far more than her is quite frankly ridiculous.

The Spice Girls achieved more in their 4 years as a group than Pink has in her whole career tbh, again that's no disrespect to Pink who has an incredible career (far longer than the girls) but they were a phenomenon that she has never been, that's why they were recognised (after Paul turned it down btw it was offered to him before them) - then there's the fact that they were British and it's a show celebrating their own home grown talent.


Oh please thats ridiculous pink has had 7 platinum albums (8 if you include GHSF) spice girls have only had 3, they clearly got out whilst they were still on top, they were probably scared of failing, if they carried on the probably would have had a couple more years on top at best, they probably would be dreaming of pinks longetivity,

They done more in 4 years sure fine ed, and adele have done more than that should just give it to one of them.

Just because a member of the band isnt from the country the rest of the members are doesnt make them not a irish band
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post Feb 8 2019, 11:45 AM
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Didnít she have a similar situation at the MTV VMAís

She won an icon award but coincidentally it was around her album release for Beuatiful Trauma. All these awards shows are propaganda
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Nice to see Like A Pill in her top 10 biggest sellers. My favourite of hers by a mile.

As for the BRIT award argument. Yeah I can see why maybe perhaps Madonna should have been given the award, but Pink is deserving on the award as much as she is imho. She's been very inspirational to many for her music, her voice and is a brilliant role model. Michael Jackson won an Artist of a Generation award which basically sounds like the same thing.

I don't think it should be just a British thing either, like the BRITs doesn't really celebrate any international success and I think if it opened up its categories more it would probably be more respected internationally. There should be at least international single and album.
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The 'Official' reason why Pink has been given the Award is because The BRITS have opened the 'Outstanding Contribution' Award to International Acts.
However, I think that the fact that she has a New Album due, ('Hurts 2B Human'), and Single, ('Walk Me Home'), is why she has been chosen to be
the 1st 'International' Female to get it.

The BRITS wanted someone big, who would turn up to perform and that is why Pink has been given the Award. Madonna's New material is
not ready, and Kylie's New material was last Year.

ABBA have spent longer at No.1 in the UK than any Act since The Beatles split, (Post-1970), and they have never even had a BRIT Award.
They were nominated for Best International Album at the very 1st Awards in 1977. They were called The Britannia Awards then. As they
were the 1st, they were given for all of UK Chart History. ABBA's 'Arrival' lost to 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' by Simon & Garfunkel in the
Best International Album category. The other 2 Nominees were 'Tapestry' by Carole King and 'Songs In The Key Of Life' by Stevie Wonder.
That is the 1st - and last - time that ABBA ever got a BRITS Nomination.

Other Acts were given the 'Outstanding Contribution' Award more than once. The Beatles got it in both 1977 and 1983. Robbie Williams, David Bowie
and Elton John have been given 'Special' BRITS Awards more than once, to celebrate their Careers. As a contrast, I don't think that Take That have had
the Outstanding Contribution To Music Award even once. (Sometimes the Award has been called the 'Lifetime Achievement' Award and it has been called
the 'Icon' Award, at other times).

Although 2 of U2 were born in the UK, they are regarded as an Irish Group. So, they were the 1st, (and last), Non-UK Group to get the Outstanding
Contribution To Music Award, in 2001.

Bob Geldof got the Award in 2005, and he too is Irish. Let's face it, he didn't get the Award for his 2 UK No.1's with the Boomtown Rats. He got
it for his Charity work with Band Aid and Live Aid...

Now that the 'Outstanding Contribution To Music' Award has been given to Pink, we can expect to see it given to other 'International' Acts, in the
future. Such as Madonna, Kyle Minogue, Beyonce, Bruce Springsteen, Stevie Wonder etc., etc. (I can't see it being given to ABBA, as they will not
all turn up tp accept the Award. They certainly will not perform. So, ABBA are probably out of the question, for the Award...).


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Iím not saying there werenít other artists that couldnít have it but, call me defensive, but to say Pink getting it is Ďridiculousí is an absolute insult. The Brits ignoring international artists would be a bad idea, weíre already considered xenophobic snobs a lot of the time anyway.

The double standards in this thread are amazing. In one breath lamenting that Pink doesnít get enough recognition and in the next, complaining that she doesnít deserve the recognition sheís actually getting.

She deserves it and I donít really care if other disagree.
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You have to accept the award . They have wanted to give it to Madonna in the past . However she says she is not finished to accept an award like this .
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Like Radio One, The BRITS are a bit obsessed with the idea of an Act being 'Relevant'. Therefore, it would not surprise me if
Ariana Grande, was the next International Female to get the 'Lifetime Achievement' Award. As regards the next International
Male Artist to get it, we may see Justin Bieber or Justin Timberlake get it. Perhaps Drake...

The BRITS 'Committee' may just go for Artists who are having Hits in the present day, rather than rewarding Artists who have
achieved a lot over several Decades, but are seen as 'Old' or 'Irrelevant' in this Decade...

Which would leave out Madonna, Kylie, Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, Beyonce, Diana Ross, ABBA, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan,
Stevie Wonder, and many other 'Old' International Acts...


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