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Posted by: Jack 30th July 2011, 11:34 PM

Rihanna has almost finished working on her sixth studio album, producer Verse Simmonds has claimed.

Simmonds produced Rihanna's latest single 'Man Down' alongside Jugganauts partner Sham 'Sak Pase' Joseph, and has revealed that the pair have also been helping out with the new record.

"From what I understand, she is closing the album up now," Simmonds told MTV News. "We did two records for her that she really, really loved and I'm really excited about them as well."

"They are records that we wrote and produced as the Jugganauts," Simmonds added, before teasing that the two may also produce a third Rihanna track.

He also said that he is "99.999%" sure that the Jugganauts' contributions will make it onto the final record.

Earlier this month, Rihanna was named 'Woman of the Year' by Vogue Italia for her extensive charity work and success as a solo artist.

Rihanna recently confirmed that 'Cheers' will be the sixth single to be taken from her platinum-selling album Loud.


EXCITING!

Posted by: Liаm 31st July 2011, 12:07 AM

That was quite quick! ohmy.gif I saw this on DS earlier and was quite shocked she's finished so soon! But then again she has had an album out each year since 2005, so it makes sense she keeps following the pattern, and it's less of a wait for new music - which is always good of course!

Posted by: Silver Rocket 31st July 2011, 12:21 AM

She's literally like a machine/product! Thankfully she churns out good pop songs every era.

I'd really love another Rated R type album where it's obvious more time was spent on it and that she had more personal involvement in the process, Loud was nowhere near as good but still 'decent pop'.

Posted by: liamk97 31st July 2011, 12:23 AM

When is the new album going to be released? As I thought there was a Loud re-release planned for this year?

Posted by: Jack 31st July 2011, 12:47 AM

QUOTE(Silver Rocket @ Jul 31 2011, 01:21 AM) *
She's literally like a machine/product! Thankfully she churns out good pop songs every era.

I'd really love another Rated R type album where it's obvious more time was spent on it and that she had more personal involvement in the process, Loud was nowhere near as good but still 'decent pop'.

I completely agree, 'Rated R' is still my favourite album from her wub.gif I do really like 'Loud', but like you said it kind of felt impersonal.

Posted by: Jonjo 31st July 2011, 02:01 AM

I'm loving her more and more with every era. Each era is like an improvement on the last. It works so well for her and what's more impressive, is the fact she doesn't spend too long between each era recording new material for an album. Some artists would kill to make albums as good as hers in just a short space of time.

I'm really, REALLY looking forward to it. But surely there's a limit? Surely she can't go on for much more longer producing one of the best Pop'n'B records...

Posted by: Acoustic 31st July 2011, 10:06 AM

ohmy.gif Very exciting!
I would love another album similar to 'Rated R' but that album did reflect her personal life.

A mixture of GGGB and Loud would be great - songs like Rehab, GGGB, TAB mixed with WMN? and OG(INW). wub.gif

Posted by: danielMFAO 31st July 2011, 11:27 AM

OMG YES!!! cheer.gif yahoo.gif I can't wait for new Rihanna tunes. Loud was such an excellent era (excluding CKB) so another album later this year would be AMAZING wub.gif I'm just hoping her lead single isn't a disapointment (like Russian Roulette)

Am really looking forward to seeing Rihanna back at number one in my personal charts kink.gif I'm sure whatever she releases will be great, I'm worried she may have peaked but I'm confident she'll be great

Posted by: Liаm 31st July 2011, 01:08 PM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Jul 31 2011, 03:01 AM) *
But surely there's a limit? Surely she can't go on for much more longer producing one of the best Pop'n'B records...

Tbf Music Of The Sun and A Girl Like Me were pretty patchy, it's only since GGGB she's been among the best. I still think she'll be top of her game. The only single of hers I properly dislike is We Ride actually ohmy.gif I sound like such a loon drama.gif

Posted by: Chris_2k11 31st July 2011, 01:59 PM

I expected her to release a greatest hits next but i'm glad she isn't. A new album is much more exciting.

Posted by: Medicated Soap 31st July 2011, 07:50 PM

She gets better on every album. Can't wait.

Posted by: Mikal 31st July 2011, 08:15 PM

A GH must be due soon? that would be epic!

Posted by: Jonjo 31st July 2011, 10:20 PM

What would she call her greatest hits? 'Good Girl Gone Bad RiRi-Loaded'? tongue.gif

I'd love a greatest hits collection along with a DVD with ALL her videos on there. (Like Britney's 'Greatest Hits: My Prerogative' - but include ALL songs and videos tongue.gif)

Posted by: Jack 31st July 2011, 10:40 PM

It still feels a little too early in her career for a GH I reckon. I'd prefer if she did a J.Lo and wait a while.

Posted by: WillR0713 31st July 2011, 11:03 PM

I'd rather she re-released 'LOUD' sad.gif I feel that 11 tracks wasn't enough tongue.gif she's going really fast with her albums.

Regarding the greatest hits, she will have one hell of a catalogue ohmy.gif the amount of hits that she's had, either way, it'll be an amazing greatest hits.

Posted by: dannjohn3 1st August 2011, 06:49 AM

I wish she would revisit songs in vein of "Fire Bomb" & "Disturbia".

Posted by: Mikal 1st August 2011, 08:47 AM

I recon this could be an EP type album, from the clues given it seems likely!

She said on Twitter, not a new album, not a re-release but YES to new music! So sounds like an EP to me!

Posted by: SceneofSIXCrimes 1st August 2011, 09:25 AM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Jul 31 2011, 11:20 PM) *
What would she call her greatest hits? 'Good Girl Gone Bad RiRi-Loaded'? tongue.gif


- Don't Stop The Music (or Won't Stop The Music) tongue.gif
- Shut Up and Listen tongue.gif

It doesn't work like 'The Sound of Girls Aloud' unfortunately. sad.gif

Maybe Ultimate Rihanna would be the title whenever it's released.

Posted by: Mikal 1st August 2011, 09:34 AM

She could call it #1s as most of her songs are #1s somewhere...

Posted by: liamk97 1st August 2011, 03:05 PM

QUOTE(SceneofSIXCrimes @ Aug 1 2011, 10:25 AM) *
Maybe Ultimate Rihanna would be the title whenever it's released.


She ain't no Kylie! tongue.gif wink.gif

Posted by: Cremey 1st August 2011, 03:09 PM

Perhaps a bit of a long title but I think it should be called 'That Rihanna Reign Just Won't Let Up'! Perfect title.

Anyway, looking forward to new music from her, she always brings the goods.

Posted by: SceneofSIXCrimes 1st August 2011, 05:59 PM

I hope her new album will be more Caribbean-influenced and show more of her roots (no red hair jokes tongue.gif).

QUOTE(liamk97 @ Aug 1 2011, 04:05 PM) *
She ain't no Kylie! tongue.gif wink.gif


She's better! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz 1st August 2011, 09:13 PM

According to her Facebook page there is a MAJOR announcement coming this Wednesday. Woop!

Posted by: Acoustic 1st August 2011, 09:24 PM

QUOTE(Lukuzz @ Aug 1 2011, 10:13 PM) *
According to her Facebook page there is a MAJOR announcement coming this Wednesday. Woop!


Funny how every other comment is someone questioning if she's pregnant. laugh.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz 1st August 2011, 09:32 PM

QUOTE(Acoustic @ Aug 1 2011, 10:24 PM) *
Funny how every other comment is someone questioning if she's pregnant. laugh.gif

I know! laugh.gif why do they all think that?

Posted by: Mikal 2nd August 2011, 09:03 AM

And who announces a pregnancy announcement? LOL.

People are f***ing stupid.

Posted by: Chris_2k11 2nd August 2011, 12:05 PM

QUOTE(SceneofSIXCrimes @ Aug 1 2011, 06:59 PM) *
She's better! biggrin.gif

Watch it wink.gif

Posted by: slowdown73 2nd August 2011, 09:22 PM

I cant believe she already has another album in the pipeline. She is just constantly releasing something...

Posted by: -Irish-Ladd- 2nd August 2011, 09:47 PM

One more PROPER album (with 15/16 tracks, not 11) and then maybe a greatest hits tongue.gif

I'd love if she came back with a more hip-hop sound like GGGB, mixed with a bit of dance, a few chilled pop songs and a ballad or two biggrin.gif
Oh, and a new hair style - and wardrobe :L

Posted by: Jack 2nd August 2011, 09:56 PM

I love how she has a new hairstyle each era, it really helps to define it!

Posted by: WillR0713 2nd August 2011, 10:12 PM

What colour hair do you think she should try out next ? laugh.gif

I wonder if she'll keep the brown she has right now. I'd love to see her try out a dark purple hairstyle tongue.gif

Posted by: Jonjo 2nd August 2011, 10:31 PM

BLUE! Katy Perry 'California Gurls' cover, style blue kink.gif

Posted by: Acoustic 3rd August 2011, 10:38 AM

Although the red hair was nice, GGGB haircut is still my favourite - particularly Umbrella & Don't Stop the Music videos. wub.gif

Posted by: SceneofSIXCrimes 3rd August 2011, 04:45 PM

Black - done
Red - done
Blonde - done/conflicts with Beyonce
Pink - conflicts with Nicki Minaj
Blue - conflicts with Katy Perry
Purple - conflicts with Jessie J
Brown - natural and done

Maybe Platinum Blonde or Green. kink.gif

Posted by: Love Me Crazy 3rd August 2011, 05:01 PM

rainbow coloured hair tongue.gif

Posted by: Aidan 3rd August 2011, 07:15 PM

QUOTE(SceneofSIXCrimes @ Aug 3 2011, 05:45 PM) *
Black - done
Red - done
Blonde - done/conflicts with Beyonce
Pink - conflicts with Nicki Minaj
Blue - conflicts with Katy Perry
Purple - conflicts with Jessie J
Brown - natural and done

Maybe Platinum Blonde or Green. kink.gif

Conflicts with Lady Gaga, well, if it's a dark green it's fine. tongue.gif

Posted by: liamk97 3rd August 2011, 07:20 PM

QUOTE(Acoustic @ Aug 3 2011, 11:38 AM) *
Although the red hair was nice, GGGB haircut is still my favourite - particularly Umbrella & Don't Stop the Music videos. wub.gif


I agree!! Her hair in those videos were fantastic!! wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif I don't why she cut it all off for the re-release when it looked so great!

Posted by: Steve D 3rd August 2011, 07:31 PM

It looked so much better when she cut it all off

Posted by: dannjohn3 3rd August 2011, 10:51 PM

There's rumours that the album will follow a more island theme, a la "Man Down'. Hope she revisits this little treat kink.gif


Posted by: Liаm 20th August 2011, 02:10 PM

On some I read that apparently the single will be released in Novemeber, but they had no tweets or source, they said Radio 1 had mentioned it? Well, w00t.gif if it is true - an XF slot!

Posted by: Slick 20th August 2011, 02:38 PM

QUOTE(Mikal @ Aug 1 2011, 09:47 AM) *
I recon this could be an EP type album, from the clues given it seems likely!

She said on Twitter, not a new album, not a re-release but YES to new music! So sounds like an EP to me!

New material but not a new album or re-release = Greatest Hits/Singles Collection? I know all of the reports suggest otherwise but that's what her tweets seem to be indicating to me.

I am excited. I LOVE Rihanna and she really does get better with each era.

Posted by: MANIAC 20th August 2011, 09:45 PM

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2011/06/17/rihanna-to-re-release-loud-.html

Unfortunately, it looks like a re-release.

Posted by: Jack 20th August 2011, 10:20 PM

Good thing imo, will help album sales alot and jumping onto another album so soon would be a wrong move imo. Still excited to hear new stuff from her, I've overplayed 'Loud' far too much and need new RiRi in my life!

Posted by: Lukuzz 20th August 2011, 11:13 PM

I wish they would announce something officially, Is there a Cheers video coming out aswel?

Posted by: WillR0713 21st August 2011, 12:27 AM

'Cheers' music video should be on the way happy.gif

She tweeted this on August 17;

QUOTE
rihannaRihanna
#CHEERS Longest video shoot EVERRRRR!!!!......

Posted by: Acoustic 21st August 2011, 12:30 AM

I WANT A RIHANNA USB STICK.

Hopefully we'll get confirmation soon. My money is on a re-release.

Posted by: Lukuzz 21st August 2011, 09:01 AM

I'd be quite happy with a re-release, normally I'd say move onto the next album, but she is very quick to move on. Plus Loud only had 11 tracks, so a few more would be good. If she does do it though I hope we get at least 5/6 new songs. Not 3 like GGGB Reloaded.

Posted by: slowdown73 21st August 2011, 10:18 AM

I think a re-release is a good idea. Its a bit too early for a new album yet. Good girl gone bad spawned about 8 or 9 singles, so I'm sure loud can be stretched further yet.

Posted by: Neil 21st August 2011, 11:38 AM

I don't get the "Cheers longest shoot ever"... wasn't it a recording of her performing it on the tour? Unless she was being sarcastic, lol.

Anyway, a re-release is fine with me as long as it comes with a companion album.

Posted by: slimane12 26th August 2011, 01:43 PM


I take it her team have finished this and she's just going to lay down her vocals a couple of weeks before release like Loud. Interesting that she worked with Britney not long ago and she's turning into her as far as career involvement goes. Shame she has all these big hits and she makes so little from them! Another mercades for Esther Dean! Get those endorsements Ri you need to make money somehow.

Posted by: Jack 26th August 2011, 01:55 PM

I'm pretty sure she's doing fine financially somehow LOL.

Posted by: Steve D 26th August 2011, 02:34 PM

QUOTE(slimane12 @ Aug 26 2011, 02:43 PM) *
I take it her team have finished this and she's just going to lay down her vocals a couple of weeks before release like Loud. Interesting that she worked with Britney not long ago and she's turning into her as far as career involvement goes. Shame she has all these big hits and she makes so little from them! Another mercades for Esther Dean! Get those endorsements Ri you need to make money somehow.


Lol the artist tends to get a lot of money even if they dont right the songs.

Posted by: cookie_monster 28th August 2011, 11:29 PM

Excited for a re-release! Hopefully Rihanna can get a #1 this year! (I can't remember if WMN got #1 in December or January) and yeah this era has been so successful, it would be a shame for it to be over in just one year.

Posted by: Joao.Kills 29th August 2011, 10:49 PM

QUOTE(Steve D @ Aug 26 2011, 03:34 PM) *
Lol the artist tends to get a lot of money even if they dont right the songs.

Artists only get 8% of CD sales

Posted by: 152chris 30th August 2011, 12:00 PM

QUOTE(Joao.Kills @ Aug 29 2011, 11:49 PM) *
Artists only get 8% of CD sales

Yes but they do get royalties/endorsements/HUGE amounts for tours and live performances so I'm sure she's doing fine. Plus artists like her hardly pay for ANYTHING as they get so much for free!

Posted by: Slowpoke 30th August 2011, 02:37 PM

QUOTE(Joao.Kills @ Aug 29 2011, 11:49 PM) *
Artists only get 8% of CD sales


I think you've been on here long enough to know that artists receive money from a lot of different things... CD and download sales are just the very tip of the iceberg... blink.gif

Posted by: Jonjo 30th August 2011, 03:42 PM

Don't artists mostly get their money through touring and promotion?

Posted by: THEO. 30th August 2011, 04:57 PM

Yep, that's why they don't like people selling "fake" merchandise outside of concerts.

Posted by: Joao.Kills 31st August 2011, 03:00 PM

QUOTE(152chris @ Aug 30 2011, 01:00 PM) *
Yes but they do get royalties/endorsements/HUGE amounts for tours and live performances so I'm sure she's doing fine. Plus artists like her hardly pay for ANYTHING as they get so much for free!


QUOTE(Slowpoke @ Aug 30 2011, 03:37 PM) *
I think you've been on here long enough to know that artists receive money from a lot of different things... CD and download sales are just the very tip of the iceberg... blink.gif


The post that I quoted said "Lol the artist tends to get a lot of money even if they dont write the songs." We're talking about CD sales here. You think I think that artists only make money off the back of CDs? Slightly ridiculous no? I wouldn't be taking a degree in Commercial Music if I didn't know what I was talking about.

Posted by: Love Me Crazy 31st August 2011, 04:18 PM

They may not make a lot of money off CDs but a successful album leads to a successful tour

Posted by: dannjohn3 3rd September 2011, 03:25 PM

QUOTE(Neil @ Aug 21 2011, 12:38 PM) *
I don't get the "Cheers longest shoot ever"... wasn't it a recording of her performing it on the tour? Unless she was being sarcastic, lol.

Anyway, a re-release is fine with me as long as it comes with a companion album.


It's probably a joke because it's tour footage, so she's kindah saying the video took as long as the tour did to make.

Posted by: WillR0713 4th September 2011, 02:00 PM

A tweet from Rihanna;

QUOTE
rihannaRihanna
@RiRisBubblePop I tht abt a RihRelease, but LOUD is its own body of work! Plus u guys work so F?CKIN hard that u deserve to act brand new!!!


LOL that tweet still doesn't make sense to me laugh.gif sounds like she's readying a new album though sad.gif I really wanted a Loud re-release.

Posted by: Liаm 16th September 2011, 04:05 PM

From DS:

QUOTE
Rihanna has confirmed that her new album will be released in the very near future.

After confirming to fans yesterday that new material will be released soon, the star was bombarded with tweets asking for a time frame.

Responding to her online fans, also known as Rihanna's Navy, the singer replied: "THIS FALL!!!!!"

The confirmation means that the new album will follow her multi-million-selling Loud LP almost a year after it debuted.

When asked by a fan if she plans to take some time off, the Bajan performer responded: "Yes, when I'm tired!!!"

Producer Verse Simmonds recently revealed that he has worked on two songs for the new set after collaborating with the star on her previous single 'Man Down'.

Rihanna will kick start the UK leg of her 'Loud' world tour on September 29, before playing a record-breaking ten-night residency at London's O2 arena.



So it should November sometime? We should be hearing the new single VERY soon methinks! EXCITED!

Posted by: Acoustic 16th September 2011, 04:52 PM

I love how dedicated she is. I'm so excited for a new album!

'Fire Bomb' Part II PLEASE.

Posted by: slowdown73 17th September 2011, 12:02 AM

I take it we aint getting a re-release then of loud?

Posted by: Jonjo 17th September 2011, 01:51 AM

Nope. Brand new album! wub.gif

Seeing as it's released in November too, am I right in thinking about ANOTHER XF performance?? biggrin.gif

Posted by: JakeWild 17th September 2011, 05:24 AM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Sep 17 2011, 02:51 AM) *
Nope. Brand new album! wub.gif

Seeing as it's released in November too, am I right in thinking about ANOTHER XF performance?? biggrin.gif


HELL. YEAH.

Hope the red hair is back for album 6. Easily my favourite look of hers so far.

Posted by: Eyes 17th September 2011, 01:44 PM

We're getting a 6th album already? Now that is very good. Can't wait to hear it.

I suppose I hadn't got used to the lightning pace Rihanna goes through her albums. LIKING it though.

Posted by: cookie_monster 18th September 2011, 11:31 PM

I hope this era gets managed as well as 'Loud' is/was. A lead single that got promoted before it was released, an X Factor performance which pushed the second single to #1 despite selling well on its own - A third single that gets everyone talking... A fan favourite and rock-inspired ballad and a chilled single to end off the era with a look to really define the whole thing. Also other places got the stand out track for me... Man Down.

Compare that to Rated R... Lead single randomly released midweek that charted, peaked too soon then dropped... Confusion over the second single where radios were playlisting one song and music channels were playing the other... A promo track that got a video that was also getting played on music channels. And then it took the record company ages to choose a third single which ended in the song underperforming and the era ultimately being over... Then they try and release a fourth single but it didn't even out-peak its original peak from the second single confusion. Not mentioning an abysmal album peak for a superstar!

Compare the eras and the Loud era has been fantastically managed, compared to the Rated R release strategy (or lack of it...) So I have faith in her and her team to really push and advance for this era. Can't wait!! w00t.gif

Posted by: Cremey 22nd September 2011, 01:13 PM

Apparently the release date has been confirmed (in a recent press release) as 21ST NOVEMBER.
Pretty much exactly a year after 'Loud' and two years after 'Rated R'! Love how she always releases albums within a week of my birthday! Ha.

Posted by: HeartRateRapid 22nd September 2011, 01:55 PM

On the basis of 'We Found Love' COLOUR ME THOROUGHLY EXCITED for this record.


Posted by: THEO. 3rd October 2011, 04:04 PM

The album title is hidden in the logo:



It'll be revealed after there are enough guesses on Twitter using #unlocked

Posted by: ROBOT 3rd October 2011, 04:36 PM

I'm thinking it could be called 'Talk', but that would be a pretty crap name imo.

Posted by: THEO. 3rd October 2011, 04:38 PM

'Talk That Talk' has appeared several times on Twitter; pretty crap name, but then again, most of her album titles have been shit.

Posted by: Acoustic 3rd October 2011, 04:53 PM

I don't think Talk That Talk is that bad a title.

Rated R is still her best title!

Posted by: Slowpoke 3rd October 2011, 05:16 PM

f*** that

Posted by: Slowpoke 3rd October 2011, 05:16 PM

f*** that

Posted by: WillR0713 3rd October 2011, 05:39 PM

Music Of The Sun
A Girl Like Me
Good Girl Gone Bad
Rated R
Loud
Talk That Talk

Hmmm... intriguing title, I quite like it happy.gif But in order of my favourite titles it'll have to be;

Rated R >>>>>>> Good Girl Gone Bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Loud >>>>>>>>>>>> Talk That Talk >>>>>> A Girl Like Me >>>>> Music Of The Sun

Posted by: Marina Hurts 3rd October 2011, 06:18 PM

It must be a combination of the words: Talk (x2), Found, Girls, Answer, When.

Posted by: WillR0713 4th October 2011, 04:46 PM

Rihanna
Mission #5: UNLOCKED! Rihanna's new album, TALK THAT TALK, out November 21st! #TalkThatTalk http://on.fb.me/qytYE2

Posted by: Liаm 4th October 2011, 05:28 PM

Talk That Talk is quite a good title I think, better than Loud tongue.gif However the actual album will have to go quite some way to top Loud!

Posted by: Lukuzz 4th October 2011, 09:16 PM

I think its a pretty good title, not amazing. But album title doesn't really mean anything anyways.

Posted by: Conderella 5th October 2011, 08:05 PM

Wow, she does seem to be releasing albums around the same time (2nd-3rd weeks of November) lately ohmy.gif

Posted by: Marina Hurts 6th October 2011, 02:52 PM

Uhmmm, there's a poll on her facebook page that asks: 'What do you want Rihanna to reveal next in UNLOCKED?'

16k people answered "Sex"
6.4k people smiled ":)"
5.3k people answered "Her boobs"

ROFL

Posted by: Mikal 7th October 2011, 11:49 AM

Adjusted the title a little smile.gif

Posted by: Jonjo 7th October 2011, 02:52 PM

'Talk That That'? tongue.gif

Posted by: Mikal 7th October 2011, 02:54 PM

LOL woops, fail mod/rihanna fan.

Posted by: AV102 7th October 2011, 11:25 PM

Does anyone have any info on what producers she is working with ?

Posted by: Nick F1 9th October 2011, 02:43 PM

apparently this is official cover


Posted by: WillR0713 9th October 2011, 02:47 PM

Hmm.. I'm actually contented with that if it is the album cover. But i'm still hoping that's fanmade and the official one will be so much better tongue.gif

The outfits a bit meh, but as usual Rihanna makes it look good laugh.gif

Posted by: JakeWild 9th October 2011, 03:00 PM

Please no

Posted by: Aidan 11th October 2011, 03:30 PM

Rihanna just tweeted that there will be a deluxe package with its own cover.

Posted by: WillR0713 11th October 2011, 04:36 PM

The official album cover;


Posted by: Cremey 11th October 2011, 04:37 PM

OOOOOOOOOFF.

Posted by: WillR0713 11th October 2011, 04:46 PM

Deluxe edition cover;


Posted by: Umi 11th October 2011, 04:52 PM

Not a fan of the standard. She looks very Beyoncé and it's just not very... Rihanna even if it has "ATTITUDE" and "SWAG" and everything else RiRi is generally associated with. I much prefer the deluxe.

Posted by: THEO. 11th October 2011, 04:54 PM

I prefer the standard! She looks great in it, plus the deluxe one looks very cheap... Glad it's finally been unveiled though biggrin.gif

Posted by: RC741 11th October 2011, 04:57 PM

They're both... interesting tongue.gif Anyway, at least it's been unveiled biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jáhq 11th October 2011, 05:01 PM

I think I slightly prefer the standard because it's more colourful, but then it could be better getting the deluxe because of extra tracks. WHAT TO DO.

Wouldn't say I LOVE either though, 'Loud' had a much better cover.

Posted by: Neil 11th October 2011, 05:17 PM

Not really a huge fan of either.

My only request for this album is that when I buy it, it better not be censored like my Deluxe copy of Loud was. That was so annoying.

Posted by: 152chris 11th October 2011, 05:22 PM

The standard cover is AMAZING

Posted by: Liаm 11th October 2011, 05:37 PM

The deluxe cover is much better, following Pixie Lott in having the deluxe cover better than the standard. Except the standard is still good here, not a constipated picture like Pixie's tongue.gif

Posted by: Umi 11th October 2011, 05:43 PM

QUOTE(Neil @ Oct 11 2011, 06:17 PM) *
Not really a huge fan of either.

My only request for this album is that when I buy it, it better not be censored like my Deluxe copy of Loud was. That was so annoying.


There are both explicit and censored versions! You can order the explicit but I don't know if it will be in shops.

Posted by: JakeWild 11th October 2011, 05:49 PM

QUOTE(Jáhq @ Oct 11 2011, 06:01 PM) *
I think I slightly prefer the standard because it's more colourful, but then it could be better getting the deluxe because of extra tracks. WHAT TO DO.

Wouldn't say I LOVE either though, 'Loud' had a much better cover.


I don't think she'll ever beat the Loud cover for me.

The deluxe edition of this looks so tacky and fan made but the standard edition is much better. Not keen on the album cover being on her arm like that though. I kinda wish the We Found Love cover was for the album.

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 11th October 2011, 06:58 PM

QUOTE(WillR0713 @ Oct 11 2011, 05:36 PM) *
The official album cover;



My god.

Amazing.

Posted by: Conderella 11th October 2011, 07:11 PM

Loving the covers. I prefer the deluxe one though.

Posted by: Acoustic 11th October 2011, 08:18 PM

I prefer the standard.

Hope there's an album booklet to rival Rated R which is brilliant.

Posted by: Rich 11th October 2011, 08:52 PM

Standard is better. Rihanna is FINE

Posted by: Joao.Kills 11th October 2011, 09:49 PM

I prefer the deluxe so much more. It fits in so much better with the logo and just more effective. There is a 'tracklist' floating around which lists We Found Love as a bonus track and a track with Cheryl Cole ( laugh.gif ) so most likely to be fake.

Posted by: 152chris 11th October 2011, 11:26 PM

The deluxe one is far too reminiscent of her Music of the Sun/Good Girl Gone Bad phases which is a bit of a step back as far as I'm concerned. The standard is easily her best so far though!

Posted by: Jonjo 12th October 2011, 01:35 AM

I actually really, really love both! The standard in particular!

Posted by: Marina Hurts 12th October 2011, 05:32 AM

Deluxe cover is fantastic!

Posted by: Lukuzz 12th October 2011, 07:34 AM

I deffo prefer the deluxe. So does this mean that there will be a version with more tracks? Hopefully more than 11 songs this time!

Posted by: C H A R L I E ? 12th October 2011, 10:37 PM

Does the deluxe remind anyone else of the deluxe of Born This Way? Obviously the standard is far better than the GaGa equivalent...

Posted by: Liаm 13th October 2011, 06:06 PM

Tracklist:

01. "We Found Love"
02. "Manhunt"
03. "Talk That Talk"
04. "Trust No One"
05. "X’s + O’s"
06. "All Guns Blazin’"
07. "Monkey See"
08. "Blunts Rolled"
09. "Suicide"
10. "Battle Of Nerves"
11. "Crossfire"

Deluxe Edition
12. "Head"
13. "707"
14. "Revolution Of The Heart"

Posted by: Cremey 13th October 2011, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(C H A R L I E ? @ Oct 12 2011, 11:37 PM) *
Does the deluxe remind anyone else of the deluxe of Born This Way? Obviously the standard is far better than the GaGa equivalent...

Yes! I was thinking the same thing.

QUOTE(Liаm @ Oct 13 2011, 07:06 PM) *
Tracklist:

01. "We Found Love"
02. "Manhunt"
03. "Talk That Talk"
04. "Trust No One"
05. "X’s + O’s"
06. "All Guns Blazin’"
07. "Monkey See"
08. "Blunts Rolled"
09. "Suicide"
10. "Battle Of Nerves"
11. "Crossfire"

Deluxe Edition
12. "Head"
13. "707"
14. "Revolution Of The Heart"

Glad we're getting quite a few tracks. And LOVING some of the titles, namely 'All Guns Blazin'' and 'Blunts Rolled' - gansta Ri please.
EWW at the unnecessary apostrophes in 'X's + O's' though...hopefully it'll be be written correctly on the album sleeve etc.

Posted by: Jonjo 13th October 2011, 06:15 PM

They sound very 'Rated R' type titles. laugh.gif

Can't wait to hear 'Monkey See' and 'Battle of Nerves'. They sound like the best tracks to me, just judging by titles obviously! tongue.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz 13th October 2011, 06:19 PM

OMG all of them titles are amazing. Does sound VERY Rated R from the titles. I do hope it is a little more rocky/gangsta like RR. but still quite dancey at the same time. Excited for this now!

Posted by: shane2502 13th October 2011, 06:39 PM

That's fake, no? The "official picture" thing of it doesn't list any of the features on the tracks, not even the one we know about (Calvin).

EDIT: Yeah the picture is fake, they just cropped http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/stylewatch/blog/090817/kat-mcphee-500x375.jpg one

Posted by: Davidson 13th October 2011, 07:51 PM

Very 'Rated R' esque, I agree from those titles. I hope the album goes against the clubby 'We Found Love' style and goes more to the 'Rated R' style again, as that album is still my favourites of hers so far. I love dark Rihanna wub.gif

Posted by: Cremey 14th October 2011, 03:10 AM

QUOTE(shane2502 @ Oct 13 2011, 07:39 PM) *
That's fake, no? The "official picture" thing of it doesn't list any of the features on the tracks, not even the one we know about (Calvin).

EDIT: Yeah the picture is fake, they just cropped http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/stylewatch/blog/090817/kat-mcphee-500x375.jpg one

Yeah I've seen that posted on a couple of other sites now. SAD TIMES. sad.gif
Those titles sounded so good except the unnecessary apostrophes of course! Really hope we get some gangsta RiRi from this album. I NEED A HARD PT. 2!!

Posted by: Conderella 14th October 2011, 08:24 AM

DAMN. I was looking forward to hearing 'Suicide' sad.gif

Posted by: Karma 19th October 2011, 03:08 PM

Not as fond on the title/album cover as much as Loud & the cover for Loud. wub.gif wub.gif But i do like. She looks like Beyonce a bit on the cover ohmy.gif

Posted by: AV102 19th October 2011, 10:48 PM

Found this online but its probably a fake

1. We Found Love (Feat. Calvin Harris)
2. Beneath My Feet
3. Tornado
4. Take My Hand
5. Men (Feat. Kanye West)
6. Jet Black
7. Venom Heart
8. The Night Is Young (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
9. Focus
10. The Life
11. Stay Away
12. Talk That Talk



Posted by: AltheGreat 20th October 2011, 09:52 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Talk-That-Deluxe-Hardback-Book/dp/B005TZFZJC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319147497&sr=8-1

'Hardback Book Edition' sounds exciting!

Posted by: cookie_monster 22nd October 2011, 11:13 AM

I bought GGGB reloaded the other day at Morrisons biggrin.gif and I really cannot wait for this album now. I've finally warmed to the first single (mainly thanks to the video) and I can't wait to hear the next single. Hope they are as good as Only Girl and What's My Name. biggrin.gif

Also, I think the caption under the banner in her forum might need a little updating... "We've all stood under her umbrella, and now megastar Rihanna is set to release her 4th studio album later this year! Talk about her upcoming new single and everything Rihanna in here!" tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz 22nd October 2011, 02:35 PM

I need to hear more singles from this album. I do really like We Found Love but I need more.

Posted by: Liаm 30th October 2011, 06:18 PM

Rumours...

- There is a collaboration with Katy Perry on the album.
- The album has a more 'urban' sound on the whole.
- The second single will be the title track and it will be released on 14th November.

Posted by: RC741 30th October 2011, 06:27 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Oct 30 2011, 06:18 PM) *
Rumours...

- There is a collaboration with Katy Perry on the album.
- The album has a more 'urban' sound on the whole.
- The second single will be the title track and it will be released on 14th November.


Yes please to all of them!! As long as it isn't to urban smile.gif

Posted by: 152chris 30th October 2011, 06:54 PM

Ugh no to all of the above (unless by 'more urban' they mean lots of Man Down)

Posted by: AV102 3rd November 2011, 03:55 PM

The 2nd Single Is rumoured to be called Black Butterflies

Posted by: RC741 3rd November 2011, 06:00 PM

QUOTE(AV102 @ Nov 3 2011, 03:55 PM) *
The 2nd Single Is rumoured to be called Black Butterflies


Sounds good to me!

Posted by: Umi 3rd November 2011, 09:31 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Oct 30 2011, 06:18 PM) *
Rumours...

- There is a collaboration with Katy Perry on the album.
- The album has a more 'urban' sound on the whole.
- The second single will be the title track and it will be released on 14th November.


That Katy collab thing has been going around for ages and I really want some sort of confirmation about it. It could be so good and such a massive hit! The big stars of the time should do more collabs like this. Telephone was amaze. I hope this is as good as that.

Posted by: Cremey 4th November 2011, 03:14 AM

I just want this album like right now. RELEASE IT ALREADY GODDAMMIT.

Posted by: Conderella 4th November 2011, 07:08 AM

QUOTE(AV102 @ Nov 3 2011, 07:55 PM) *
The 2nd Single Is rumoured to be called Black Butterflies



Hardly doubt that they will use a demo that's been out for a year.

Posted by: Liаm 4th November 2011, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(Conderella @ Nov 4 2011, 07:08 AM) *


Hardly doubt that they will use a demo that's been out for a year.

I KNEW the name rang a bell laugh.gif And that's why. Hopefully they just release the Katy collab ASAP but I imagine (if it is true and on the album) they'll leave it until 3rd/4th because it can still be massive even post album.

Posted by: Neil 4th November 2011, 09:24 PM

I can't believe the album will be out in 13 days in Australia and we still don't have a tracklist!

Posted by: Nick F1 4th November 2011, 11:28 PM

TALK THAT TALK TRACKLIST

1. You Da One
2. Where Have You Been
3. We Found Love
4. Talk That Talk
5. Cockiness (Love It)
6. Birthday Cake
7. We All Want Love
8. Drunk On Love
9. Roc Me Out
10. Watch n' Learn
11. Farewell

DELUXE:
12. Red Lipstick
13. Do Ya Thing
14. Fool In Love

Posted by: WillR0713 4th November 2011, 11:33 PM

Love seems to be so common there laugh.gif

Titles are mehh but its all about the music smoke.gif bring on November 21!

Posted by: shane2502 5th November 2011, 01:35 AM

QUOTE(Nick F1 @ Nov 4 2011, 11:28 PM) *
5. Cockiness (Love It)


God, how awful...

You Da One was rumoured to be the second single. It's produced by Dr. Luke & Cirkut, and written by Ester Dean, if it's to be believed.

Posted by: Conderella 5th November 2011, 12:15 PM

Ya Da One? Do Ya Thing? Roc Me Out? Drunk On Love?

I'mma be sic.

Posted by: Lukuzz 5th November 2011, 12:50 PM

Not really feeling the titles, but hoping the songs themselves are better. I have a feeling there will be lots of references to alcohol on this album, even moreso than the last laugh.gif

Posted by: Liаm 5th November 2011, 01:04 PM

I read this on a blog earlier:
Some information has been said about the songs like Where Have You Been is a progressive dance track which has been compared to Don't Stop the Music (one of my favorite Rihanna tracks) and Fool In Love is described as a ballad which contains Rihanna's best vocal performance yet, and Red Lipstick... well a demo (which sounds a lot like Rihanna) was premiered back in August (which you can check out below) but it's not sure that this is the track we are talking about. But remember this all could be complete BOGUS because nothing has been confirmed yet. I will update the post if anything comes up. smile.gif

This was the demo to 'check out below':

Posted by: RC741 5th November 2011, 01:28 PM

I'm thinking she should push Talk That Talk back to possibly 5th December - as it doesn't seem possible it will be out in 2 weeks (even though I'm ridiculous excited for it! )

Posted by: shane2502 5th November 2011, 05:13 PM

Why push it back? The album's done, they confirmed that.

By the way:



From her Facebook! Saxon is from Rated R, and the "demo" can be heard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lKswpb6e8, which is strange!

Posted by: Eric_Blob 5th November 2011, 05:45 PM

Do we know about the producers of the songs? Chase & Status said on Radio 1 a few months ago that there was a track they gave to Rihanna for Rated R which didn't make the album, and that she might put it on her next album.

I hope for a lot of Stargate songs too. And Ester Dean.

Posted by: Umi 5th November 2011, 05:49 PM

I hope that tracklist isn't real. I hate slang in song titles. Hopefully RiRi sees sense and changes the titles!

Posted by: shane2502 5th November 2011, 05:52 PM

She says it's real, but Answer is gone, and it'll be a different order.

QUOTE(Eric_Blob @ Nov 5 2011, 05:45 PM) *
Do we know about the producers of the songs? Chase & Status said on Radio 1 a few months ago that there was a track they gave to Rihanna for Rated R which didn't make the album, and that she might put it on her next album.


That's actually Saxon! Although she's just tweeted that it'll have entirely new lyrics, and be call Red Lipstick instead.

Posted by: Eric_Blob 5th November 2011, 05:59 PM

QUOTE(shane2502 @ Nov 5 2011, 05:52 PM) *
She says it's real, but Answer is gone, and it'll be a different order.
That's actually Saxon! Although she's just tweeted that it'll have entirely new lyrics, and be call Red Lipstick instead.


Oh! ohmy.gif It's good to see she used another track from them. I loved their songs on Rated R, and I think their sound would be bigger in the US in 2012 than it was in 2009. Maybe Nicki might do a verse if she recorded the demo.

Rihanna seems to like British producers. Alex da Kid, Calvin Harris, Chase & Status, etc. biggrin.gif I'd love it if Alex da Kid did a song for this album, because I think Love the Way You Lie, Part II was amazing.

Posted by: RC741 5th November 2011, 06:18 PM

Oh, that's good - I didn't realise it was all finished (I'm sure that she was in the studio a few days ago)! Defo looking forward to this biggrin.gif

But I hope that Cockiness isn't the new Peacock tongue.gif

Posted by: Klumzee 5th November 2011, 06:23 PM

Not too keen on the song titles tbh sad.gif I'm sure it will be amazing, but it still feels a bit rushed and I would've been fine with 'We Found Love' being released next Summer with the album following in Autumn.

Posted by: -Irish-Ladd- 5th November 2011, 07:03 PM

I seriously hope she's had some writing credits on this. She didn't have any on Loud (from what I remember) and that really annoys me. Would love if she performed on the X Factor final again this year, but maybe that's a bit too much to ask for tongue.gif

Posted by: RC741 5th November 2011, 07:11 PM

She's tweeted that there's one collab and she's got the best! (Katy Perry???)

Posted by: shane2502 5th November 2011, 08:48 PM

QUOTE(-Irish-Ladd- @ Nov 5 2011, 07:03 PM) *
I seriously hope she's had some writing credits on this. She didn't have any on Loud (from what I remember) and that really annoys me. Would love if she performed on the X Factor final again this year, but maybe that's a bit too much to ask for tongue.gif


She's said she's written on the album, but I can't remember where.

Posted by: Jáhq 6th November 2011, 10:35 PM

QUOTE(RC741 @ Nov 5 2011, 07:11 PM) *
She's tweeted that there's one collab and she's got the best! (Katy Perry???)


I saw that but if Calvin Harris has a featured credit, isn't he just the one collab that she means?

He isn't really 'the best' but the song is a huge smash so..

Posted by: Liаm 7th November 2011, 07:11 PM

It's just Jay-Z according to Stargate sad.gif I'm sure the track will be amazing anyway!

Posted by: Cremey 8th November 2011, 12:50 PM

Yesss, can't wait for the Jay-Z collab.

Posted by: Conderella 8th November 2011, 03:57 PM

'JUST' Jay-Z???

-Who is calling?
-You know JUST Jay-Z. NO BIG DEAL.

Posted by: Liаm 8th November 2011, 04:58 PM

I didn't mean 'just' in that way, I meant it in the way she has collaborated with him before (Umbrella and Run This Town) so it isn't as exciting to me.

Posted by: danielXF 8th November 2011, 07:08 PM

I can't wait for Umbrella Part II (kink.gif) - am so excited to hear more from Rihanna this year heart.gif Jay-Z never disappoints too (well I do hope his rap is better than the one he did on Umbrella)

Posted by: Eric_Blob 8th November 2011, 10:10 PM

Yes, I'm happy about Jay-Z! biggrin.gif

So far, in terms of producers, there's two Stargate songs (one written by Ester Dean), one Calvin Harris song, and one Chase & Status song.

The title track will be Stargate produced, so as far as I'm aware, this will be the first time ever that Jay-Z will rap on a Stargate beat!! ohmy.gif

It's strange to think that Stargate work for Def Jam/Roc Nation, and produced many of the biggest hits from the record label, but they still haven't done a song with Jay-Z himself yet. laugh.gif

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 8th November 2011, 10:52 PM

Every Rihanna album should be blessed with a Drake collaboration. THAT IS ALL.

Posted by: Slick 9th November 2011, 09:22 AM

I want a Rihanna and Katy Perry collab!! If it's not on Katy's next album I will cut someone.

Posted by: Eric_Blob 10th November 2011, 01:20 AM

QUOTE
Actually, scratch that. Rihanna‘s new record, Talk That Talk, is the dirtiest “pop” record we have ever heard. We listened to the entirety of the 11-song album, which will hit stores on Monday, November 21, earlier this afternoon here at our Times Square headquarters and can confirm that everyone in attendance left the room with flushed cheeks after experiencing extensive periods of blushing.
Now, this is not to say that Rihanna has gone out and recorded the female As Nasty As They Wanna Be; it’s not simply a sexually-explicit affair (although, at one point during The-Dream produced track “Birthday Cake,” she does proclaim “I wanna f*** you right now”). Rather, Talk That Talk continues the conversation that Rihanna began with her single “S&M” (off Loud) and, if you’ll pardon the Spinal Tap reference, turns it up to 11. Rihanna and her chief partner-in-crime, songwriter Esther Dean (who either wrote or co-wrote at least five songs on the LP), have put together a record that not only oozes sex, but also revolves almost exclusively around it.
Take the album’s fifth track, “Cockiness,” for example. The Bangladesh-produced banger, which sounds like a vintage-era Neptunes jam, begins with Rihanna telling her lover that “I want you to be my sex slave” and contains the refrain “I love it when you eat it.” It doesn’t stop there; in perhaps the album’s most memorable line, Rihanna demands her subject to “Suck my cockiness / Lick my persuasion.” This line, which got all of the attendees in the room we were in to nervously chuckle, is the kind of line that would’ve got Rihanna called in front of Congress if Tipper Gore were still running the PMRC, and the kind of song that would make even Prince‘s famed protagonist “Darling Nikki” squeal.
It’s not just that track, either. On the Stargate-produced “Roc Me Out,” RiRi complains that “You’re taking too long to get my head on the ground / And my feet in the clouds,” before cooing, “I’ve been a bad girl, daddy.” And during “Watch And Learn,” produced by up-and-comer Hit-Boy, she goes to great lengths to detail how she wants it on the bed, the floor, and the couch, before turning the tables and not-so-subtly instructing that “It’s your turn now / Watch and learn now / Watch and learn how.” Trust us, the things she’s teaching in this song certainly aren’t taught in schools (at least not without a permission slip signed by your parents).
All that being said, this album sounds positively MAMMOTH and will no doubt continue Rihanna’s dominance on the pop charts for at least the next year and change. “Where Have You Been,” which was written by Top 40 formula crackers Dr. Luke and Esther Dean and produced by the hit maker du jour Calvin Harris, will almost certainly be Rihanna’s biggest club smash since “Don’t Stop The Music.” The chorus features a sweeping, trance-ish transition that will bowl over dancefloor denizens in clubs all over the world, and the bass in the song is so monstrous (in a good way!) that it will make you want to trade in your factory-installed car speakers for a top-of-the-line sound system. And we’ve gotten six paragraphs deep into this preview without even mentioning Jay-Z’s guest vocals on the album’s fourth song and title track, “Talk That Talk,” which isn’t quite on the level of “Umbrella,” but is a lock for the Billboard Top Ten whenever Def Jam decides to release it as a single.
And “Drunk On Love”? Oh boy, this one is going to please Williamsburg hipsters to their core. It’s built on a foundation of The XX‘s “Intro,” which gives it instant indie cred, but Stargate smartly takes Jamie XX‘s melody line and transforms the beat into something so massive that your iPod earbuds are almost guaranteed to explode.
While Rihanna’s Talk That Talk isn’t a record that you’re going to want to listen to with the kiddies in the room (at least not sans EARMUFFS!), it’s far and away the most cohesive album that she’s recorded to date. It’s not a concept record, per se, but the thematic consistency of this album’s lyrical content—shout out to Esther Dean, a true freak if we’ve ever heard one!— and the epic soundscapes that Stargate, Calvin Harris and crew have created make this, from start to finish, the most aurally satisfying record of the six full-length albums she has released. It’s got at least five or six singles that have a shot at making a huge impact on the charts (“We Found Love” has already hit #1), and when it’s all said and done, should put Rihanna neck-and-neck in the running with Beyoncé for the most successful female solo artist of her era (not to mention, earning her a plaque next to Madonna in the Hall of Fame for All-Time Most Sexually Provocative Female Solo artists).
TALK THAT TALK TRACKLIST (and partial list of credits)
1. “U The One” (produced by Dr. Luke)
2. “Where Have You Been?” (produced by Calvin Harris, written by Dr. Luke & Esther Dean, )
3. “We Found Love” (produced by Calvin Harris)
4. “Talk That Talk (featuring Jay-Z)” (produced by Stargate, written by Esther Dean)
5. “Cockiness” (produced by Bangladesh)
6. “Birthday Cake” (produced by The-Dream)
7. “We All Want Love” (written by Esther Dean)
8. “Drunk On Love” (produced by Stargate, written by Esther Dean)
9. “Roc Me Out” (produced by Stargate, written by Esther Dean)
10. “Watch And Learn” (produced by Hit-Boy, written by Priscilla Renea)
11. “Farewell” (produced by Big Juice, written by Esther Dean)
[Photo: Getty Images]Tags: Album Previews, Dr. Luke, Esther Dean, Priscilla Renae, Raunch, Suck My Cockiness And Lick My Persuasion, Jay-Z, Rihanna, The-Dream, Calvin Harris, Stargate


The review seems very OTT. Not really sure how seriously to take it. laugh.gif But looking at the actual information in there, really happy to see Rihanna has worked a lot with Ester Dean. She's got another song with Calvin Harris aswell! ohmy.gif And the fact that there's a song that sounds like The Neptunes makes me very happy. Also, funny that she's been on two The xx samples in the space of a week! laugh.gif

Dr. Luke is VERY hit and miss. He's produced some of the best, and the worst songs in the past couple of years imo. I hope Rihanna has got good songs from him. The last thing I want on her album is another California Gurls/Tik Tok/Dynamite/Hold It Against Me/We R Who We R/Take It Off/Teenage Dream/Last Friday Night clone. But, on the other hand, some of what Dr. Luke has produced in the past couple of years is AMAZING, so lets hope these songs are too.

Apparently, You Da One, written by Ester Dean, produced by Dr. Luke, is being released on iTunes on Sunday, and it has dubstep and island influences.

Posted by: Cremey 10th November 2011, 02:44 AM

f*** that's got me so excited for this!
Definitely my most anticipated release of the year and it's out in less than two weeks!!!

Posted by: Nick F1 10th November 2011, 10:08 AM

album clips:

http://www.tunetribe.com/product/rihanna-talk-that-talk-explicit-version?id=5465656&ref=_irf_arp

Posted by: JakeWild 10th November 2011, 01:54 PM

The build up and marketing online for this album has been incredible.

Roc Me Out from the snippets wub.gif
Cannot wait for this to leak.

Posted by: Jonjo 10th November 2011, 02:01 PM

'Birthday Cake' is very Nicki Minaj 'Massive Attack'! AMAZING.

Posted by: Jack 10th November 2011, 02:03 PM

'Farewell' is actually my favourite from them, I love a good Rihanna ballad!

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 10th November 2011, 03:30 PM

I love it when you eat it.

Posted by: Cremey 10th November 2011, 03:37 PM

Dirty bitch.

I'm so addicted to the clips. 'Where Have You Been' is ANTHEMIC.
'Drunk On Love' and 'Roc Me Out' sound like stand-outs at the moment too.

Posted by: Conderella 10th November 2011, 03:41 PM

I have a feeling this will be the first Rihanna album I will properly LOVE. Hopefully Roc Me Out and Watch N' Learn will improve as they are so far the only two I didn't like.

Overall, AMAZING.

Posted by: Conderella 10th November 2011, 03:44 PM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 10 2011, 07:37 PM) *
Dirty bitch.

I'm so addicted to the clips. 'Where Have You Been' is ANTHEMIC.

I see huge similarities to We Found Love. It even feels like the events in that song take place before We Found Love, like it's a two-part saga or something.

Posted by: CHЯIS 10th November 2011, 04:43 PM

'Where Have You Been?' is my favourite from the clips. Can't say any of the others sound particularly great, though I'm sure I'll love them once I've heard them in full.

Posted by: THEO. 10th November 2011, 04:45 PM

The one which sounded like 'We Found Love' was my favourite from the clips, although that could've actually been 'We Found Love'; I wasn't really paying that much attention, but there wasn't much great from what I heard.

Posted by: Acoustic 10th November 2011, 05:14 PM

ohmy.gif Where are these clips?

Posted by: J*hnkilometre 10th November 2011, 05:22 PM

Farewell and We All Want Love sound GREAT, the rest not so much.

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 10th November 2011, 05:35 PM

It sounds mighty generic. I'll pass.

Posted by: Liаm 10th November 2011, 05:58 PM

Cockiness, Birthday Cake, Drunk On Love and Farewell sound the best to me, seriously excited for this album wub.gif

Posted by: CHЯIS 10th November 2011, 06:04 PM

I can't say I'm even half excited for this as I was for 'Loud'.

Posted by: Doug 10th November 2011, 06:15 PM

it doesn't sound like it's going to be as good as 'loud', going by the clips. most of them don't sound like my cup of tea that much, 'cockiness' in particular sounds awful.
I do like the sound of 'where have you been', 'drunk on love', 'farewell' and 'you da one' though. happy.gif

Posted by: J∆RK 10th November 2011, 07:22 PM

Cockiness is a proper STINKER, I can already tell. I have never liked a single song produced by Bangladesh. Birthday Cake sounds awful too but it's just an interlude.

Where Have You Been?, We All Want Love, Drunk On Love and Farewell sound like the best songs since the clips demonstrate some proper melody there but clips are notoriously misleading so we'll see. Roc Me Out is typical Rihanna/Stargate.


Posted by: Cremey 11th November 2011, 01:47 PM

From DigitalSpy:

1. You Da One (Produced by Dr Luke, Ester Dean)
Already billed as her next single (to be officially unveiled tomorrow), 'You Da One' is a bouncy, midtempo number oozing with Caribbean flavour. "You da one that I'm feeling/ You da one that I'm loving," she boasts before the chorus of playground chanting ensues, followed by a sludgy dubstep moment in the middle.

2. Where Have You Been (Produced by Dr Luke, Ester Dean)
This immediate standout kicks off to a cantering acoustic beat as RiRi wonders how she's been coping without the current beau in her life. As the trancey, Benny Benassi-esque beats slowly seep in, she asks, "Where have you been all my li-i-i-ife?" In short, it's the album's 'Don't Stop The Music'.

3. We Found Love (Produced by Calvin Harris)
You should all know about this one by now; and in the context of the rest of the album it's easily its most club-friendly moment.

4. Talk That Talk (Produced by Stargate, Ester Dean)
The only collaboration on the album, because, as her manager puts it: "We didn't believe in collaborations. It's important to stand on your own." Over a seductive, booty-bouncing riff that samples Notorious BIG's 'I Got A Story To Tell', Hova does his usual braggathon ("We're heading to the top/ If you're coming come on"), while Rihanna flirts: "I love the way you talk that talk to me."

5. Cockiness (Love It) (Produced by Bangladesh)
"I want you to be my sex life," she reveals on this head-spinning cut that infuses dancehall, hip-hop and jungle beats to glorious effect. "Suck my cockiness/ Lick my persuasion/ Eat my words and then/ Swallow all your pride down," she unashamedly asks, before admitting, "I love it when you eat it" on the earworm hook.

6. Birthday Cake (Produced by Da Internz, Dream)
The LP is divided by this brief interlude, which clocks it at 1m 18s. "I'm-a make you my bitch/ It's not even my birthday/ I wanna f**k you right now," she teases over squelchy and distorted electro beats. On first listen, however, it seemed to disrupt the flow rather than help it along.

7. We All Want Love (Produced by NO I D, Ester Dean)
The first of two slower moments on the record (three including the bonus tracks), Ri admits that behind all the whips, chains and filthy puns, she's a big ol' softy at heart. "I can pretend that I'm not lonely/ but I'd be lying to myself," she admits over stadium-shaking drums and a lullaby guitar riff, before declaring: "We all want the same thing/ We all want love."

8. Drunk on Love (Produced by Stargate, Ester Dean)
We correctly guessed the producer of this track due to its trancey, 'Te Amo'-esque intro that samples The xx's own 'Intro'. Rihanna declares herself "a hopeless romantic... I just wanna be in love", over a storm of drums and clattering synths. It also includes the LP's most thoughtful lyric: "I wear my heart on my sleeve/ Always let love take the lead."

9. Roc Me Out (Produced by Stargate, Rob Swire)
A jet-black, crotch-popping number oozing with 'tude and a killer chorus that makes for another standout moment. "Roc me out back and forth/ Roc me out on the floor... I've been a bad girl daddy," she teases. In short, it's the love child of her previous smashes 'Hard' and 'Rude Boy'.

10. Watch n' Learn (Produced by Hip Boy, Pricilia Renee)
Ri gets her Nicki Minaj on over a playful and flirtatious hip-pop melody and suitably grinding synths. In her speedy speech she tells her man everywhere she wants to get it on - including the bed, the floor and the couch.

11. Farewell (Produced by Alex Da Kid, Ester Dean)
The title may make it seem the obvious closing track, but this emotive ballad still manages to hold the pace. "So farewell/ Somebody's gonna miss that you were here," she calls out over a suitably rousing melody as she wishes the ex who dumped her all the best for the future...sob!


BONUS TRACKS:
12. Red Lipstick (Produced by Chase & Status, The Dream, Rihanna)
Despite some dodgy claims that it pinches Metallica's 'Wherever I May Roam', Chase & Status have nonetheless put their stamp on this dark 'n' twisted dubstep number.

13. Do Ya Thang (Produced by The Dream, Rihanna)
A light and fluffy R&B number with a subtle hook and a simple message. RiRi states: "At the end of the day you are who you are and I love you that way." Can't say fairer than that now, can you?

14. Fool In Love (Produced by Dr Luke, Ester Dean)
Rihanna channels Madge in this midtempo closer about being in love with a bad boy. "Papa he's quite a man, he adores me/ he's my biggest fan," she insists over acoustic guitars that quickly build into '80s-rawk ones, before claiming: "We're too far down the hole/ He's got a hold on my soul."


Posted by: MANIAC 11th November 2011, 02:33 PM

You Da One has premiered:

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2011/11/11/rihanna-you-da-one-first-listen/

Very questionable dubstep section but the rest is pretty catchy I'd say.

Posted by: Bré 11th November 2011, 09:39 PM

Interested in hearing 'Drunk On Love' (The xx sample), 'Roc Me Out' (Rob Swire production) and 'Red Lipstick' (Chase & Status production). Not awfully excited about the rest to be honest. 'Cockiness (Love It)' sounds ODD.

Posted by: J∆RK 11th November 2011, 10:15 PM

Isn't Roc Me Out Stargate produced?

Posted by: Cremey 12th November 2011, 12:11 AM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 11 2011, 01:47 PM) *
9. Roc Me Out (Produced by Stargate, Rob Swire)


QUOTE(J∆RK @ Nov 11 2011, 10:15 PM) *
Isn't Roc Me Out Stargate produced?


If we're to trust digital spy?

Posted by: J∆RK 12th November 2011, 12:13 AM

Digital Spy has the credits listed wrong. Rob Swire is the co-writer, Stargate co-writer and producer.

CHECK MY SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE.

Posted by: Silver Rocket 12th November 2011, 12:14 AM

I'm losing faith in her, 'You Da One' is possibly the worst song she's recorded and 'We Found Love' (although it's vaguely grown on me) is hardly anything to write home about. Loud had a handful of very good songs, but nothing that was truly up there with her best for me. I'm hoping the album has better on offer. sad.gif

Posted by: Cremey 12th November 2011, 12:15 AM

QUOTE(J∆RK @ Nov 12 2011, 12:13 AM) *
Digital Spy has the credits listed wrong. Rob Swire is the co-writer, Stargate co-writer and producer.

CHECK MY SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE.

Oh I seeee. Fair point.
As for the caps lock bit, I'll choose to ignore that. Cockiness (I don't love it).

Posted by: RC741 12th November 2011, 12:18 AM

Deluxe version of TTT already #11 on Uk iTunes just from pre orders!!

Posted by: JakeWild 12th November 2011, 12:18 AM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 11 2011, 01:47 PM) *
9. Roc Me Out (Produced by Stargate, Rob Swire)
A jet-black, crotch-popping number oozing with 'tude and a killer chorus that makes for another standout moment. "Roc me out back and forth/ Roc me out on the floor... I've been a bad girl daddy," she teases. In short, it's the love child of her previous smashes 'Hard' and 'Rude Boy'.


YESYESYES


Posted by: J∆RK 12th November 2011, 12:27 AM

I thought the Roc Me Out clip was a bit STANDARD. Stargate on autopilot. We'll see though.

Posted by: Neil 12th November 2011, 10:15 AM

9 songs have leaked xD

Posted by: Jáhq 12th November 2011, 10:24 AM

All songs from the standard edition apart from 'Cockiness' it seems.

Heard 'Where Have You Been' so far and it's a lot better than 'You Da One'. The Jay-Z collab is OK but nothing special.

I love how she manages to produce such great albums without taking breaks and manages to change slightly each time. So far it doesn't seem to be in the same vein as Loud or Rated R.

Watch n' Learn is my least favourite upon first listen through. The two slower songs are both good but 'Farewell' has the edge right now. WHYB remains the biggest highlight.

Posted by: Conderella 12th November 2011, 11:27 AM


Posted by: J*hnkilometre 12th November 2011, 11:36 AM

Farewell is wondrous. Drunk On Love and We All Want Love are also very good. The rest I can take or leave at this point.

Posted by: Conderella 12th November 2011, 11:47 AM

Watch N' Learn and Roc Me Out as expected are POO.

We All Want Love and Where Have You Been however are incredible.

Posted by: J∆RK 12th November 2011, 11:53 AM

Good lord. Where Have You Been is BEYOND STUNNING. It's like Rihanna takes on Marry The Night with an added twist of CRAZY.

Posted by: WillR0713 12th November 2011, 11:58 AM

FULL STAN MODE *_*

first listen review...

09 You Da One
11 Where Have You Been
10 We Found Love
08 Talk That Talk (ft. Jay-Z)
-- Cockiness (Love It) [NOT LEAKED YET]
09 Birthday Cake
10 We All Want Love
10 Drunk On Love
11 Roc Me Out
09 Watch N' Learn
10 Farewell

AMAZING *_*

Posted by: Eric_Blob 12th November 2011, 11:58 AM

I love what I'm hearing of the album so far. I love Farewell. But honestly, Alex Da Kid is one of my favourite producers (even if a lot of his songs sound the same laugh.gif), so I'm really happy they worked together again. They should make it tradition that she does one of his ballads at the end of each album. laugh.gif

I'm listening to Talk That Talk atm. I really like it. It's very urban sounding. Although Stargate do re-use parts of their beats in songs a lot. Like this sounds like a mash-up of Black and Yellow, Rude Boy and Till I'm Gone. Not that I'm complaining, it's a great song imo.

I can honsetly see Talk That Talk being cherry-picked the most when the album is released (unless You Da One isn't released before then), since it's the title track, and features Jay-Z.

Roc Me Out is also very standard Stargate, although I do like it.

Posted by: Atonement 12th November 2011, 12:06 PM

Only listened to Drunk on Love so far (apart from the hideous first single), and I really like that one.

Posted by: Eric_Blob 12th November 2011, 12:14 PM

Apparently Cockiness has now leaked too (although I don't know where, but surely someone will upload it to Youtube in a few minutes, if you just search for the song, go on "most recently uploaded", and refresh every few minutes, if you're really desperate laugh.gif).

Posted by: Conderella 12th November 2011, 12:23 PM

SUCK MY COCKINESS, LICK MY PERSUASION.

BEST. RIHANNA. SONG. EVER.

Background guy making weird sounds. *.*

The very ending of the song is WORTH DYING FOR.

Posted by: J∆RK 12th November 2011, 12:25 PM

07 You Da One - unbelievably crap second single choice, total filler moment
08.5 We Found Love - solid but not great in the context of her singles cat
10 Where Have You Been - BEYOND fab
08 Talk That Talk - great production, not much of a hook though
06 Cockiness - not as bad as I expected, still filler
01 Birthday Cake - DIRE
08.5 We All Want Love - so lovely and fresh, old-school Rih
07.5 Drunk On Love
07 Roc Me Out - standard Stargate, bit of a retread
08 Watch n' Learn - super catchy, growing on me even during the first play
09 Farewell - lovely lovely lovely, great melody

Overall I think the album is on a similar level with LOUD albeit with less outright highlights.

Posted by: WillR0713 12th November 2011, 12:33 PM

Cockiness (Love It) is alright-ish probably a 7 sad.gif but it'll probably grow on me. Loving the DIRTYYYYYY lyrics

Posted by: J∆RK 12th November 2011, 12:35 PM

Not everything has to be a 10. Although according to your review IT DOES.

Posted by: J*hnkilometre 12th November 2011, 12:39 PM

06 You Da One - it's alright, not something I'll ever chose to listen to though.
03 We Found Love - decent melody, awful production.
02 Where Have You Been - it was going so well until that Godawful breakdown.
07 Talk That Talk - would be better without the rap.
00 Cockiness - the kind of shit I HATE.
-- Birthday Cake
08 We All Want Love - nice melody, nice production, YAY.
09 Drunk On Love
08 Roc Me Out - surprisingly good.
05 Watch n' Learn - it's proper filler.
10 Farewell - AMAZING.

This post was brought to you courtesy of Vidcapper.

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 12th November 2011, 12:39 PM

Bangladesh should produce an entire Rihanna album with Drake and Kanye featuring on every other song. YES.

This is typical generic filler crap ETC ETC ETC.

Posted by: J∆RK 12th November 2011, 12:42 PM

But BANGLADESH IS CRAP. I can just about stomach Cockiness but I can't imagine how anybody could want an album full of his tuneless hood crap.

Posted by: Jáhq 12th November 2011, 01:15 PM

Cockiness is a skipper, so with Birthday Cake & Watch n' Learn it makes three that I don't care for.

Where Have You Been is still brill. If she doesn't release it as a single or at least make a video ._.

Posted by: WillR0713 12th November 2011, 01:21 PM

QUOTE(J∆RK @ Nov 12 2011, 12:35 PM) *
Not everything has to be a 10. Although according to your review IT DOES.

Sorry, but I was on full stan mode so my review obviously doesn't matter since its biased. sad.gif

Once i've spinned the album enough times, then i'll provide a review will 'less 10's'

Posted by: Cremey 12th November 2011, 01:26 PM

Oh my lord Birthday Cake!!
Love it so damn much, really hope we get a full version at some point.

'Where Have You Been', 'Cockiness' (apart from that hideous Soulja Boy-esque 'yoooooooooooou') and 'Talk That Talk' are other highlights for me atm.

Posted by: Conderella 12th November 2011, 01:41 PM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 12 2011, 05:26 PM) *
Oh my lord Birthday Cake!!
Love it so damn much, really hope we get a full version at some point.

'Where Have You Been', 'Cockiness' (apart from that hideous Soulja Boy-esque 'yoooooooooooou') and 'Talk That Talk' are other highlights for me atm.

I LOVE IT WHEN YOU EAT IT.

http://iamkele.com/blog/2011/11/11-11-11/

Posted by: Cremey 12th November 2011, 01:43 PM

QUOTE(J∆RK @ Nov 12 2011, 12:13 AM) *
Digital Spy has the credits listed wrong. Rob Swire is the co-writer, Stargate co-writer and producer.

CHECK MY SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE.


rob_swire Rob Swire
New Rihanna track produced by myself / G / Stargate, for those interested in such things smile.gif youtube.com/watch?v=1Olkgr…
1 hour ago

CHECK MY EVEN MORE SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE

Posted by: JakeWild 12th November 2011, 01:44 PM

QUOTE(Conderella @ Nov 12 2011, 12:23 PM) *
SUCK MY COCKINESS, LICK MY PERSUASION.

BEST. RIHANNA. SONG. EVER.

Background guy making weird sounds. *.*

The very ending of the song is WORTH DYING FOR.


THAT LINE. SO GOOD.

Still here mainly for Roc Me Out wub.gif

Posted by: -Irish-Ladd- 12th November 2011, 02:05 PM

RATE:
We Found Love - 11
You Da One - 3
Farewell - 8
Drunk On Love - 7
Everything else - Meh.

Posted by: Cremey 12th November 2011, 02:06 PM

QUOTE(Conderella @ Nov 12 2011, 01:41 PM) *
I LOVE IT WHEN YOU EAT IT.

http://iamkele.com/blog/2011/11/11-11-11/

ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

EEEEEEEEEEEE.

Posted by: CHЯIS 12th November 2011, 02:54 PM

08 You Da One
07 We Found Love
10 Where Have You Been
08 Talk That Talk
07 Cockiness
06 Birthday Cake
06 We All Want Love
07 Drunk On Love
10 Roc Me Out
06 Watch n' Learn
07 Farewell

'Where Have You Been' and 'Roc Me Out' EASILY the best two. Quite like 'Cockiness' for the time being, but I'm sure the novelty will soon wear off. Overall, OK.

Posted by: Jack 12th November 2011, 03:01 PM

'Where Have You Been' is completely STUNNING. In love with it so much, if that's not a single I will cut a bitch!

Posted by: THEO. 12th November 2011, 03:03 PM

What quality is the leak? I want to hear the album, but I'd more than happily wait if the quality is poor.

Posted by: Liаm 12th November 2011, 03:20 PM

It's HQ (the one I have is anyway!).

Posted by: Jonjo 12th November 2011, 03:22 PM

07.0 'You Da One'
06.0 'Where Have You Been'
10.0 'We Found Love' (feat. Calvin Harris)
08.0 'Talk That Talk' (feat. Jay-Z)
06.0 'Cockiness (Love It)'
06.5 'Birthday Cake'
08.5 'We All Want Love'
08.0 'Drunk On Love'
07.5 'Roc Me Out'
06.5 'Watch N' Learn'
09.0 'Farewell'


'Farewell' is the answer back to 'Fire Bomb'! Absolutely beautiful! wub.gif Overall though. It's the weakest of her 4 albums since she properly "made it" (i.e. GGGB). But that's only one listen through and it's a good album. I just don't "love" it yet. Not getting the love for 'Where Have You Been' yet, either. But hopefully it'll grow.

What am I saying. Of course it'll grow, it's RiRi! wub.gif

Posted by: Conderella 12th November 2011, 03:25 PM

HQ? I don't think there's HQ anywhere. Bitrate of the leak is 128.

Posted by: Liаm 12th November 2011, 03:29 PM

QUOTE(Conderella @ Nov 12 2011, 03:25 PM) *
HQ? I don't think there's HQ anywhere. Bitrate of the leak is 128.

Well it's not CDQ, it's high enough quality though.

Posted by: Eyes 12th November 2011, 03:40 PM

It's leaked?

Oh God, *looks at date* Can I hold out until the CD arrives? Can I (read: can't be bothered to go looking for a link, even though I really want this)?

Will have to consider this. 9 days to go...

Posted by: Conderella 12th November 2011, 03:48 PM

QUOTE(Eyes @ Nov 12 2011, 07:40 PM) *
It's leaked?

Oh God, *looks at date* Can I hold out until the CD arrives? Can I (read: can't be bothered to go looking for a link, even though I really want this)?

Will have to consider this. 9 days to go...


Posted by: Liаm 12th November 2011, 04:56 PM

First listen rate:

10.0 You Da One
10.0 Where Have You Been?
09.0 We Found Love (ft. Calvin Harris)
09.0 Talk That Talk (ft. Jay-Z)
08.5 Cockiness (Love It)
07.0 Birthday Cake (would be higher if it was longer!)
07.5 We All Want Love
08.0 Drunk On Love
09.5 Roc Me Out
05.5 Watch N Learn
10.0 Farewell

Overall I love it! Watch N Learn is definitely filler though, and I'd rank it below Loud and Rated R, though I'd not be shocked to see it overtake the latter ohmy.gif I'd rank the album thus:

01 Where Have You Been?
02 Farewell
03 You Da One
04 Roc Me Out
05 We Found Love
06 Cockiness (Love It)
07 Talk That Talk
08 Drunk On Love
09 We All Want Love
10 Birthday Cake
11 Watch N Learn

Posted by: Conderella 12th November 2011, 05:15 PM

R8 TIME

08.0 You Da One
10.0 Where Have You Been
09.0 We Found Love (ft. Calvin Harris)
08.5 Talk That Talk (ft. Jay-Z)
10.0 Cockiness (Love It)
08.5 Birthday Cake
10.0 We All Want Love
09.0 Drunk On Love
06.0 Roc Me Out
05.0 Watch N Learn
06.5 Farewell

Posted by: Verity Reverié 12th November 2011, 05:16 PM

What the FUCK is this *_* shit people are using these days?! It's *.* and that's the NATURAL ORDER OF THINGS.

Anyway, that aside I need to let this album settle but it's NO Loud/Rated R sad.gif

Posted by: RC741 12th November 2011, 05:59 PM

Where Have You Been is EPIC! This album is really good from the song I've heard so far biggrin.gif

Posted by: rebel flower 13th November 2011, 12:27 AM

I love the title track. wub.gif

Posted by: Casey__ 13th November 2011, 01:05 AM

Duuurty.


Not as many stand out tracks compared to 'Loud'. Loving it though. 'Birthday Cake' is a major WTF moment though.

Posted by: Eyes 13th November 2011, 02:04 AM

QUOTE(Conderella @ Nov 12 2011, 03:48 PM) *


This is but a taster of the terror that will be unleashed when Alexis' second album is released.

Must... resist...

Posted by: Cremey 13th November 2011, 06:00 PM

I've come to the conclusion that this is overall a FAR better album than 'Loud'. Not quite 'Rated R' standard but I'm seriously loving it at the moment and it's definitely my second favourite album of hers. Currently on repeat alongside Drake's 'Take Care'.

'Talk That Talk' is quickly becoming one of my favourites on the album. Jay-Z & Rihanna work so damn well together.

Posted by: Conderella 13th November 2011, 06:08 PM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 13 2011, 10:00 PM) *
I've come to the conclusion that this is overall a FAR better album than 'Loud'. Not quite 'Rated R' standard but I'm seriously loving it at the moment and it's definitely my second favourite album of hers. Currently on repeat alongside Drake's 'Take Care'.

'Talk That Talk' is quickly becoming one of my favourites on the album. Jay-Z & Rihanna work so damn well together.

I don't even need to post now since you basically say everything I want to say. biggrin.gif

Posted by: J∆RK 13th November 2011, 06:22 PM

The album is growing at quite a pace but it's held back by the fact that there are only about two or three huge standouts. LOUD had more despite being patchy and so did Rated R.


Posted by: gooddelta 13th November 2011, 06:42 PM

The album is actually growing on me quite quickly too now, I found Loud far more instant though but then that had the two singles and LTWYL part II to ease me in whereas I only knew one song on here beforehand. It also lacks anything as excellent as What's My Name but is overall quite high quality and consistent. Rate after a couple of listens;

08.5 'You Da One'
09.0 'Where Have You Been'
09.5 'We Found Love' (feat. Calvin Harris)
08.5 'Talk That Talk' (feat. Jay-Z)
08.0 'Cockiness (Love It)'
07.5 'Birthday Cake'
08.5 'We All Want Love'
08.5 'Drunk On Love'
08.0 'Roc Me Out'
07.0 'Watch N' Learn'
09.5 'Farewell'

Looking forward to the bonus tracks! Can't see it overtaking the previous three albums in my affections but then I'd count all of those in my all time top 100, might overtake Good Girl Gone Bad.

Posted by: Riri Rocks! 13th November 2011, 07:14 PM

Cant wait for release!

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 13th November 2011, 08:08 PM

05 'You Da One'
07 'Where Have You Been'
09 'We Found Love'
06 'Talk That Talk'
05 'Cockiness (Love It)'
03 'Birthday Cake'
01 'We All Want Love'
06 'Drunk on Love'
03 'Roc Me Out'
04 'Watch N' Learn'
03 'Farewell'


The album is the pretty much the definition of average. 'Roc Me Out' has been done to death now, 'Cockiness' is cringeworthy and I usually like Bangladesh productions, 'Drunk on Love' somehow makes The xx generic and uninteresting. I felt like 'You Da One' was beneath her but after listing to the album... Maybe not. This really could be anyone, non? 'Loud' was obviously more patchy but this is consistent purely because everything is rather dull.

Posted by: Conderella 13th November 2011, 08:17 PM

NEGATIVE TRIANGULAR NANCY.

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 13th November 2011, 08:20 PM

QUOTE(Conderella @ Nov 13 2011, 08:17 PM) *
NEGATIVE TRIANGULAR NANCY.


I FELT LIKE I WAS TOO POSITIVE TBH.

Posted by: JakeWild 13th November 2011, 08:21 PM

QUOTE(▲▲▲ @ Nov 13 2011, 08:08 PM) *
03 'Roc Me Out'




Posted by: ▲▲▲ 13th November 2011, 08:24 PM

QUOTE(JakeWild @ Nov 13 2011, 08:21 PM) *



Posted by: Conderella 13th November 2011, 08:32 PM


Posted by: Davidson 13th November 2011, 11:37 PM

You Da One - 8.0
Where Have You Been - 9.0
We Found Love - 9.5
Talk That Talk (ft Jay Z) - 7.5
Cockiness (Love It) - 3.0
Birthday Cake - 4.5
We All Want Love - 7.5
Drunk On Love - 8.0
Roc Me Out - 10.0
Watch N' Learn - 5.5
Farewell - 9.0

Overall, I am liking the album, but not loving it like I did with 'Rated R' and 'Loud'. 'Roc Me Out' has to be a single, its like a mix between Rude Boy & Hard (a.k.a Rihanna at her best) and I think 'Where Have You Been' and 'Farewell' could make good singles too, and I suppose 'Talk That Talk' would do well due to Jay being involved and its great instrumental, but I can't help think the chorus is a let down.

Posted by: Phaedrus Ráðúlfr 13th November 2011, 11:56 PM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 13 2011, 06:00 PM) *
I've come to the conclusion that this is overall a FAR better album than 'Loud'. Not quite 'Rated R' standard but I'm seriously loving it at the moment and it's definitely my second favourite album of hers. Currently on repeat alongside Drake's 'Take Care'.

'Talk That Talk' is quickly becoming one of my favourites on the album. Jay-Z & Rihanna work so damn well together.

That Stargate beat is to die for ohmy.gif

Favourites thus far include: 'You Da One', 'We Found Love', 'Talk That Talk', 'Birthday Cake' and 'Roc Me Out'.

SKANKIN FORWARD TO THE DOOR >>>

Posted by: J∆RK 14th November 2011, 12:16 AM

Roc Me Out is RATHER DULL. The sound of Rihanna on autopilot which isn't something you hear often.

Posted by: Phaedrus Ráðúlfr 14th November 2011, 12:35 AM

QUOTE(J∆RK @ Nov 14 2011, 12:16 AM) *
Roc Me Out is RATHER DULL. The sound of Rihanna on autopilot which isn't something you hear often.

It's okay boo, I'm filtering anything said by yourself today and putting it in the "h8rz slidin' on lefttttt" category

Monday afternoon/evening is a new day and a new listen

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 14th November 2011, 12:45 AM

QUOTE(J∆RK @ Nov 14 2011, 12:16 AM) *
Roc Me Out is RATHER DULL. The sound of Rihanna on autopilot which isn't something you hear often.


The whole album is Rihanna on autopilot.

Posted by: J∆RK 14th November 2011, 01:42 AM

I can't agree... she's never jumped so headfirst into dance/trance as on Where Have You Been for example. Cockiness is a much more alive, improved take on the urban thing she was going for with Raining Men. Nothing here reinvents the wheel but sonically there's still some new territory for her.


Posted by: AV102 14th November 2011, 04:19 AM

The album is amazing. Much better that Loud.

Posted by: JakeWild 15th November 2011, 04:31 AM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 13 2011, 06:00 PM) *
'Talk That Talk' is quickly becoming one of my favourites on the album. Jay-Z & Rihanna work so damn well together.


YES.

This, Roc Me Out & Where Have You Been stuck on repeat.

Posted by: Slowpoke 15th November 2011, 09:47 AM

'Where Have You Been' has to be a single. 'Roc Me Out' sounds like 'Rude Boy' and 'Hard' mashed, which isn't a bad thing? I love 'You Da One'

Posted by: danielXF 15th November 2011, 05:04 PM

I haven't heard the whole album (videos are hard to find on youtube) but from what I've heard it's all excellent wub.gif wub.gif Can't wait!

Posted by: Liаm 15th November 2011, 06:02 PM

I'd imagine they're saving Where You Have Been until 4th or something, it'll still be absolutely MASSIVE even then.

Posted by: J∆RK 15th November 2011, 06:51 PM

In a perfect world Where Have You Been would be the third and final single and then she would record another album for next November and give the public a bit of breathing space. Nothing else after that is crying out to be a single.

Clips of the bonuses are on iTunes now by the way. Red Lipstick is boring as hell. Do Ya Thing is pretty lightweight, bit of a chore possibly. Fool In Love could potentially be good.


Posted by: Silver Rocket 15th November 2011, 06:54 PM

I have to say, 'Where Have You Been' is quite epic. I've not heard all of the album yet, but that's the only thing that has excited me about this whole era so far.

*edit - well, except the video for 'We Found Love'.

Posted by: Klumzee 15th November 2011, 07:35 PM

Can anyone send a link my way please? Loving 'You Da One' right now wub.gif

Posted by: AV102 16th November 2011, 04:18 AM

Where Have You Been, Roc Me Out and Drunk on Love are the Standouts

Posted by: Crowan 16th November 2011, 10:36 AM

Is Birthday Cake really only 1 min 18 seconds long or has a clip only leaked so far? huh.gif

Posted by: Medicated Soap 16th November 2011, 07:55 PM

Only a clip has leaked so far.

I'm holding out for a FULL release but this is how I feel:

10 Watch N Learn
10 You Da One
10 We Found Love
09 Drunk on Love
08 Roc Me Out
08 Talk That Talk
08 Where Have You Been
07 Birthday Cake
07 Cockiness
04 We All Want Love
04 Farewell

"GOOD"

Posted by: Cremey 16th November 2011, 11:59 PM

'Birthday Cake' is only an interlude, I think that's all we're getting. Booooooo.

Posted by: Medicated Soap 17th November 2011, 04:25 AM

ohmy.gif some1 lied to me

Posted by: Conderella 17th November 2011, 05:43 AM

I think they are now making it to a full song. I've seen twitter proof somewhere.

Posted by: Lukuzz 17th November 2011, 03:30 PM

Seriously good album. Love most of the songs, although I'm not too fussed on Cockiness or Birthday Cake.

The deluxe tracks have leaked too now. Fool in Love is amazing!

Posted by: Conderella 17th November 2011, 04:14 PM

Red Lipstick is GOOD. The other two are fucking boring.

Posted by: Davidson 17th November 2011, 04:28 PM

QUOTE(Davidson @ Nov 13 2011, 11:37 PM) *
You Da One - 8.0
Where Have You Been - 9.0
We Found Love - 9.5
Talk That Talk (ft Jay Z) - 7.5
Cockiness (Love It) - 3.0
Birthday Cake - 4.5
We All Want Love - 7.5
Drunk On Love - 8.0
Roc Me Out - 10.0
Watch N' Learn - 5.5
Farewell - 9.0

Overall, I am liking the album, but not loving it like I did with 'Rated R' and 'Loud'. 'Roc Me Out' has to be a single, its like a mix between Rude Boy & Hard (a.k.a Rihanna at her best) and I think 'Where Have You Been' and 'Farewell' could make good singles too, and I suppose 'Talk That Talk' would do well due to Jay being involved and its great instrumental, but I can't help think the chorus is a let down.


Going to an updated rate, now I am more familar with the tracks and now I have heard the deluxe tracks:

You Da One - 8.5
Where Have You Been - 9.0
We Found Love - 9.5
Talk That Talk (ft Jay Z) - 8.5
Cockiness (Love It) - 5.5
Birthday Cake - 5.0
We All Want Love - 8.0
Drunk On Love - 9.0
Roc Me Out - 10.0
Watch N' Learn - 6.0
Farewell - 9.0
Red Lipstick - 8.0
Do Ya Thing - 7.5
Fool In Love - 8.5

Posted by: Medicated Soap 17th November 2011, 06:26 PM

high quality out wub.gif

Posted by: Mikal 17th November 2011, 07:38 PM

I so LOVE 'Watch N Learn' makes me wanna POP my PUSSY ha.

Posted by: Neil 17th November 2011, 10:09 PM

iTunes+ file leaked which means I've finally downloaded AND I'M LOVING IT.

Also. Amazon previously listed the deluxe cd with a hardback book... that's the one I've pre-ordered, it still says that in my order history... but it no longer shows up on the search and when I click on it, it just says Deluxe CD. Does the book exist?

Posted by: slowdown73 18th November 2011, 05:00 PM

I really don't like the new album. I won't be buying it.

Posted by: Ashley 19th November 2011, 01:35 AM

First impressions of this album is that it's more consistent than Loud. That isn't really a good thing though. Loud had 5 songs that were between 7/10 and 10/10, and the rest were terrible. All the TTT songs are just kind of middling at the moment... Cockiness and Drunk On Love are the only songs that have stuck out. I think this album will spawn hits because of Rihanna's status but I think none of them will be remembered long, falling into that same bucket as Hate That I Love You and Shut Up & Drive.

I need some new Rihanna that will make me go mental in a club like What's My Name does. Nothing on this album is doing it.

Take Care is better than anything on this album.

Posted by: AV102 19th November 2011, 07:52 AM

I think i can hear Ester Dean in The Chorus in We All Want Love

Posted by: slowdown73 19th November 2011, 12:42 PM

I only really like about 5 songs on this album, which include we found love, where have you been, we all want love, farewell and drunk on love.

Posted by: Jack 19th November 2011, 01:35 PM

Can't get enough of 'Where Have You Been' right now wub.gif

Posted by: J∆RK 19th November 2011, 03:45 PM

It's by FAR the greatest thing on the album. The somewhere in the CROWD moment is absolutely epic.

Posted by: Cremey 19th November 2011, 11:12 PM

Seriously can't get enough of this album!

11 Talk That Talk (ft Jay Z)
10 Where Have You Been
10 We Found Love
10 Birthday Cake
09 Roc Me Out
09 You Da One
08 Watch N' Learn
08 Cockiness (Love It)
08 Farewell
07 Drunk On Love
06 We All Want Love

sad.gif

...and they're all continuing to grow. MADNESS.
Might actually overtake 'Rated R' sometime in the not too distant future...

Posted by: AltheGreat 20th November 2011, 01:03 AM

QUOTE(Neil @ Nov 17 2011, 10:09 PM) *
iTunes+ file leaked which means I've finally downloaded AND I'M LOVING IT.

Also. Amazon previously listed the deluxe cd with a hardback book... that's the one I've pre-ordered, it still says that in my order history... but it no longer shows up on the search and when I click on it, it just says Deluxe CD. Does the book exist?


I've been wondering about that too...

I found this after a Google search:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A-0E3Yspys&feature=channel_video_title

What a helpful fan he is.

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 20th November 2011, 02:25 AM

QUOTE(Cremey @ Nov 19 2011, 11:12 PM) *
Seriously can't get enough of this album!

11 Talk That Talk (ft Jay Z)
10 Where Have You Been
10 We Found Love
10 Birthday Cake
09 Roc Me Out
09 You Da One
08 Watch N' Learn
08 Cockiness (Love It)
08 Farewell
07 Drunk On Love
06 We All Want Love

sad.gif

...and they're all continuing to grow. MADNESS.
Might actually overtake 'Rated R' sometime in the not too distant future...


Don't make me hurl.

I just want the instrumental of Cockiness and then I'll be happy.

Posted by: Phaedrus Ráðúlfr 20th November 2011, 04:40 AM

This is a SHINING album. Up there with 'Born This Way' for best (and in a way only good) pop releases of the year.

'Birthday Cake' is the future of pop and I want the obviously existing full version to come into FRUITION IMMEDIATELY.

Posted by: MANIAC 20th November 2011, 06:45 AM

Cannot wait for a full version of Birthday Cake!

Also, cockiness is stuck in my head. kink.gif

Posted by: J∆RK 20th November 2011, 07:07 PM

If Birthday Cake is the 'future of pop' then TAKE ME TO A BRIDGE and I will JUMP.

Posted by: Phaedrus Ráðúlfr 20th November 2011, 07:45 PM

QUOTE(J∆RK @ Nov 20 2011, 07:07 PM) *
If Birthday Cake is the 'future of pop' then TAKE ME TO A BRIDGE and I will JUMP.

RiRi's ARCADIA moment *.*

Posted by: Pablo 21st November 2011, 08:21 PM

I think this is her most consistent album yet ohmy.gif
Loving Cockiness and Drunk On Love, and You Da One is growing on me as a new single. Birthday Cake should be about 5 minutes longer though sad.gif.
For some reason Cockiness reminds me of Sweet Escape era Gwen?

Posted by: Eyes 22nd November 2011, 08:18 PM

OMG! Just got this thing finally!

Will be back in 49 minutes and 2 seconds. I have something to do. wub.gif

Posted by: THEO. 22nd November 2011, 08:22 PM

After playing the album for a second time, it's a much better album; it just needed to sink in. I'm really liking 'Where Have You Been?', 'Talk That Talk', 'Farewell' and 'Roc Me Out' now, and I'm sure a few others will begin to grow on me! Definitely not as filler-heavy as I initially thought, although with the tracklist being longer than that of Loud's, I should have expected a similar amount of standouts (6:5)

Posted by: Eyes 22nd November 2011, 09:31 PM

Liked that a lot on one listen through. Definite highlights are the opening 5 tracks (Cockiness is great on first listen especially)

And Farewell is great as the RiRi ballad this era (which is what I'm guessing it is, will get accustomed to it)

So enjoying it. I will start to become obsessed as I listen to it more.

Posted by: RC741 22nd November 2011, 10:21 PM

I'm waiting for my copy to arrive from Amazon - hopefully tomorrow!

Posted by: Crowan 22nd November 2011, 11:34 PM

so Birthday Cake IS just 1 min 18 secs long??? huh.gif

Posted by: Conderella 23rd November 2011, 05:33 AM

Where Have You Been really grew on me. Sounds insane in headphones.

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 23rd November 2011, 07:20 AM

Rihanna
Talk That Talk
Def Jam; 2011
6.0

"We found love in a hopeless place." Over a frantic, Calvin Harris-produced, Guetta-meets-"Sandstorm" beat on her sixth record's lead-off single, Rihanna repeats these words almost 20 times. "We Found Love" ranks among Ri's best singles because it recognizes that there's not much more that needs to be said: in three and a half minutes, the line moves from being a great pop lyric to a triumphant mantra to something suggestive of a whole spectrum of unspoken emotion. The best pop music transports you to somewhere beyond words, and Rihanna's strongest singles are all seem to be in on this secret. Need I remind you of some of her most powerful hooks: Ella-ella-ella-ay. Oh-na-na. Ay-ayy-ay-ayy-ay-ayy.

But as anyone with a Twitter handle will tell you, these are chatty times, and in 2011, the pop landscape's fittingly caught between two maximalist extremes: the winking theatricality of Nicki Minaj, Lady Gaga, and Katy Perry, and the dribbling confessional-pop of Drake, Kanye West, and (yes, they're more alike than they'd like to believe) Taylor Swift. Barbados-born, millions-selling, armfuls-of-awards-winning Rihanna has found staggering success (23 years old; eleven #1 singles and rising) borrowing a little bit from each of these tendencies. Her recent music videos have dabbled in trendy pop artifice (check out her neon-hued, irresistibly smiley turn in Guetta’s "Who’s That Chick?" or the David LaChapelle-aping-- literally-- "S&M"), while her brooding and personal 2009 album Rated R commented-- however obliquely-- on her public struggles. Rihanna seems more comfortable flitting between these two extremes than settling on either, but her past two albums have at least had some thematic cohesion. The same can't be said of Talk That Talk: Heavy on filler though it's only 11 tracks long, it feels not only slight but muddled, an assortment of half-baked ideas that never bloom. A stitched-together collection of club bangers, sleaze-pop missteps, and mid-tempo inspirational ballads, Talk That Talk feels at times like three different records, only one of which might have been any good.

Of course, what we're supposed to be talking is about how this is Rihanna's "dirtiest" album yet. Early blog chatter reported to lots of critics blushing in preview listening sessions and making questionably bold declarations ("The dirtiest pop album since Madonna's Erotica!") that suggested that they listen to very little pop radio, or that they have never been to an R. Kelly concert. Talk That Talk's raunchier moments should surprise no one: Rihanna's always been singing about sex-- she's just never shown such an unfortunate proclivity for cheesy lyrics and dessert metaphors. "Suck my cockiness/ Lick my persuasion," Ri commands on the embarrassingly literal "Cockiness (I Love It)", hoping the boldness of the delivery will distract you from thinking about what a clunky line it is (it won't, though Bangladesh's beats might). The Esther Dean-penned "Drunk on Love" features a weak chorus lyric and vocal whose bombast feels out of place in the track's laid back, xx-sampling atmosphere. Clocking in at a puzzling-yet-merciful one minute and 18 seconds, The-Dream co-produced "Birthday Cake" is even more heavy-handed (lots of icing puns). There are flickers of empowerment here, but mostly it proves little more than the fact that a female artist can be responsible for Jeremih-grade cheese, too. A Rihanna album has never been without the occasional lyrical misfire ("Sex in the air/ I don't care/ I love the smell of it" comes to mind), but at least on a track like "S&M" she sounds like she's having fun. For a record so preoccupied with passion and pleasure, most of Talk That Talk feels unsuitably robotic.

At least things start out strong. Talk That Talk's saving grace is its first stretch of tracks: the blithe and tropical "You Da One", "We Found Love", and the album's other Harris track "Where Have You Been", which doesn't stray much from the single's winning formula, a simple lyric of romantic longing that explodes into a club-ready beat. And though it's no "Umbrella", the Jay-Z reunion "Talk That Talk" is one of the more playful moments here, though I'll say that the patented H.O.V.-giggle doesn't feel entirely earned following a line like: "Had it by a bladder/ She like 'oh I gotta pee'."

I've read some comment-section conspiracy theorists who believe Rihanna is in single-minded pursuit of Hot 100 domination, and the rate at which she's pumping out albums (roughly one a year since 2005) is an attempt to populate the singles chart until the end of time. There might be some truth to this (her singles collection is going to be killer), and with "Death of the Album" prophecies ever looming it's worth wondering whether or not that's such a crime. But 2011 found plenty of pop artists still breathing new life into the format: Beyonce's 4 and Lady Gaga's Born This Way were probably the most solid examples-- two bombastic records that also explore the nuance of their respective artists' personas. Talk That Talk tries too hard to send a more one-dimensional message and ends up falling flat: Rihanna's obviously going for sexy here, but her music's at its most alluring when she's blissed out in her own reverie, not taking the time to spell it all out for us. - Pitchfork

Posted by: ▲▲▲ 23rd November 2011, 07:21 AM

Generous score tbh and 'You da One' remains awful. Strange how they have complimented 'Born This Way' multiple times but never reviewed it.

Posted by: JakeWild 23rd November 2011, 07:47 AM

QUOTE(▲▲▲ @ Nov 23 2011, 07:21 AM) *
Generous score tbh and 'You da One' remains awful. Strange how they have complimented 'Born This Way' multiple times but never reviewed it.


It really does.


"(her singles collection is going to be killer)"

YES IT WILL

Posted by: Sabrina. 23rd November 2011, 02:18 PM

Hasn't really clicked with me yet. Talk that Talk is the only song I love..Need to give it a few more listens

Probably not a good idea to listen to this after Drake's

Posted by: Lew 23rd November 2011, 08:55 PM

Didn't know where to post this so i'll just post it here, it's just silly trivia really! tongue.gif, when I was looking through the TTT tracklist I noticed there was a lot of title's including the word 'Love'. So I looked at previous albums and it turns out every Rihanna album has had a song with 'Love' in the title! ohmy.gif

Music Of The Sun
If It's Lovin' That You Want
You Don't Love Me (No, No, No)

A Girl Like Me
Crazy Little Thing Called Love
If It's Lovin' That You Want (Part II)

Good Girl Gone Bad
Hate That I Love You

Rated R
Stupid In Love
Cold Case Love

Loud
Love The Way You Lie (Part II)

Talk That Talk
We Found Love
Cockiness (Love It)
We All Want Love
Drunk On Love
Fool In Love

13 songs, she could make a whole albums worth of this. kink.gif

Posted by: AltheGreat 23rd November 2011, 09:49 PM

Rihanna - The Love Album

Posted by: Conderella 24th November 2011, 05:00 AM

There's no 'love' word in If It's Lovin' That You Want.

Posted by: jark x ∞ 24th November 2011, 05:14 PM

QUOTE(Crowan @ Nov 22 2011, 11:34 PM) *
so Birthday Cake IS just 1 min 18 secs long??? huh.gif

It's longer but she didn't even have time to finish it. Shows you how rushed this whole thing has been.

Posted by: jark x ∞ 24th November 2011, 05:29 PM

I can't take anything seriously which tries to claim 4 is a great album.

Posted by: Crowan 24th November 2011, 11:40 PM

QUOTE(jark x ∞ @ Nov 24 2011, 05:14 PM) *

It's longer but she didn't even have time to finish it. Shows you how rushed this whole thing has been.


Are you serious? That is ridiculous! The track just ends randomly...its not even an interlude! Why even include it? wacko.gif

Posted by: AV102 25th November 2011, 03:02 AM

Talk that talk ft Jay Z is #17 on UK i Tunes

Posted by: jark X ∞ 25th November 2011, 04:01 PM

If people are quick they can nab a copy of the standard edition for £4 on Amazon Black Friday at the minute.

Edit: sold out in about a minute haha. I got mine though!

Posted by: -Jay- 25th November 2011, 05:07 PM

I got one too. happy.gif

Posted by: -Jay- 26th November 2011, 12:06 PM



£65: Deluxe Album, Rihanna Navy officer's hat, Watermine Jewellery case complete with a pin and three unique collectible charms, Rihanna Navy patch. Only 500 Navy Box Sets have been created.



£130: Signed Rihanna Navy Officers Chest. A box set worthy of Rihanna’s most loyal Navy officers and a must have for all of her fans; this exclusive chest includes: Anchor key chain and key, Rihanna Navy officer’s hat, Flight pin, Luggage tag, Rihanna Navy patch, R USB with 1GB Storage, Pin with three unique collectible charms, Tabloid newspaper with rare never before seen photos, Talk That Talk Deluxe CD Edition, Autographed Navy membership card handsigned by Rihanna. All encased within the original officer chest packaging. Show you’re a part of the Navy when you bring home this collector’s piece. Only 500 Navy Officer’s Chest were created, each box is individually numbered.

Both Available: 9th January 2012

http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/rihanna/box-sets/icat/rihannaboxsets/

Posted by: jark∞ 26th November 2011, 02:10 PM

NO TA!

Posted by: -Jay- 26th November 2011, 02:50 PM

Universal does have a tendency of coming up with bizarre packages and sticking a hefty price tag on them. I probably wouldn't want to spend £30 on that, let alone £130.

I don't think this is quite as bad as Lady GaGa's vinyl box set for Born This Way though (one track on each side of 9 picture disc vinyls = £120!) huh.gif

Posted by: THEO. 27th November 2011, 03:12 PM

The album's already been certified Platinum in the UK! ohmy.gif

Posted by: 152chris 30th November 2011, 05:05 PM

Why is Birthday Cake even there? It makes no sense to shove an OBVIOUSLY half finished song in the middle of an album, the fade at the end even makes it feel like an iTunes preview to a full song.

The album as a whole is growing loads thoughh

Posted by: AV102 1st December 2011, 12:58 AM

I have a feeling there will be Birthday Cake Part 2

Posted by: Ryan 5th December 2011, 03:37 AM

You Da One - 8
Where Have You Been - 7
We Found Love - 10
Talk That Talk (ft Jay Z) - 6
Cockiness (Love It) - 6
Birthday Cake - 5
We All Want Love - 7
Drunk On Love - 5
Roc Me Out - 6
Watch N' Learn - 3
Farewell - 6
Red Lipstick - 8
Do Ya Thing - 5
Fool In Love - 5

A bit PAP!

Posted by: MarthaJonesFan 8th December 2011, 05:38 PM

08.5 You Da One
09.0 Where Have You Been
08.0 We Found Love
06.5 Talk That Talk
03.0 Cockiness (Love It)
04.0 Birthday Cake
09.5 We All Want Love
09.0 Drunk On Love
08.5 Roc Me Out
08.0 Watch n’ Learn
10.0 Farewell

A bit of a mixed bag. Some great songs, such as We All Want Love and Farewell, some decent songs like You Da One and We Found Love, some OK songs like Talk That Talk, and some dreadful songs like Cockiness (Love It) and Birthday Cake...

Posted by: Sabrina. 9th December 2011, 01:07 PM

05.0 Birthday Cake
07.0 Cockiness (Love It)
09.5 Drunk On Love
07.5 Farewell
09.0 Roc Me Out
08.5 Talk That Talk feat. Jay Z
08.0 Watch N' Learn
08.0 We All Want Love
10.0 We Found Love feat. Calvin Harris
08.5 Where Have You Been
08.5 You Da One

Posted by: lee wallace 12th December 2011, 07:45 PM

Reduced to £6.99 from Play.Com for One Day.

Posted by: JakeWild 13th December 2011, 04:15 AM

It pains me that there isn't a complete version of Birthday Cake.

Posted by: Tyler 13th December 2011, 08:20 AM

Birthday Cake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of the entire album.

Posted by: jark∞ 13th December 2011, 02:08 PM

QUOTE(Tyler @ Dec 13 2011, 08:20 AM) *
Birthday Cake <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< The rest of the entire album.

I quite agree.

Posted by: Conderella 13th December 2011, 04:29 PM

I concur. And need the full version NOW.

Posted by: charlottejbrett 18th December 2011, 11:40 AM

Ugh all of her old albums seem better than this (maybe miss out Music Of The Sun and A Girl Like Me), this album seems very manufactred, maybe like the second half of Good Girl Gone Bad (1st Edition). The sounds are different on this album but i'm not to into it, especially We Found Love!
What do you think?

Posted by: Cremey 18th December 2011, 02:38 PM

QUOTE(Tyler @ Dec 13 2011, 08:20 AM) *
Birthday Cake >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The rest of the entire album.

So so true.

Posted by: Paramore 22nd December 2011, 09:05 PM

Its tough to see Rihanna getting any great singles off this album after 'We Found Love'. She needs a break. Get in the studio and come back in 2013 ready to destroy the competition

Posted by: Marina Hurts 22nd December 2011, 09:54 PM

QUOTE(Paramore @ Dec 22 2011, 11:05 PM) *
Its tough to see Rihanna getting any great singles off this album after 'We Found Love'. She needs a break. Get in the studio and come back in 2013 ready to destroy the competition


Why should she give up on TTT? It has a few potential hits on there. Where Have You Been, Talk That Talk, We All Want Love, not to mention You Da One that will hopefully take off when the vid comes out.

Posted by: Paramore 23rd December 2011, 11:39 AM

QUOTE(Marina Hurts @ Dec 22 2011, 09:54 PM) *
Why should she give up on TTT? It has a few potential hits on there. Where Have You Been, Talk That Talk, We All Want Love, not to mention You Da One that will hopefully take off when the vid comes out.


Well, mostly because she's puking on stage but the album isn't well reviewed either. If she gets some decent remixed out she will be in a better position.

Posted by: Acoustic 25th December 2011, 02:02 PM

Got this for Christmas. smile.gif

So far my favourites are 'Where Have You Been', 'Do Ya Thang' and 'Drunk On Love'.

Posted by: Phaedrus Ráðúlfr 29th December 2011, 12:38 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/rihanna/status/152244233145827328

@rihanna
Rihanna
I promised! 1st on the agenda '12 #CAKE RT @RihannaDaily: @rihanna RiRi, when are we getting the full version of "Birthday Cake"?

WAHEYYY

Posted by: WillR0713 29th December 2011, 04:17 PM

QUOTE
Rihanna rihanna
I need answers!!!! #NEXTSINGLE #TTT
'Roc Me Out' is #1 trending and 'Talk That Talk' is #10 trending ohmy.gif

QUOTE
Rihanna rihanna
Ok DONE!!!! I like what I see...and decisions are MADE!!! #NEXTSINGLE


Looks like 'RMO' will be the next single, I don't mind it but I'd rather 'WHYB' then 'RMO' then 'TTT' sad.gif LOL

Posted by: Liаm 29th December 2011, 04:22 PM

As long as it's not Talk That Talk, if it is I will CUT SOMEONE. It's just as horrifically overrated as WFL except not as good sad.gif

Posted by: WillR0713 29th December 2011, 05:09 PM

Ok, Rih just confirmed 'Roc Me Out' isn't the next single.

QUOTE
BOOM!! @EpicRihanna
Cause non-fans are doing it so the good singles aren't released. u_u RT @aldotg: DEAD, Roc Me Out is a TT. Welp
QUOTE
Rihanna @rihanna
@EpicRihanna @aldotg lol! That won't be the next single


So it looks like its definitely 'Talk That Talk' sorry Liam tongue.gif

Posted by: Liаm 29th December 2011, 05:13 PM

manson.gif

Posted by: dannjohn3 29th December 2011, 05:56 PM

Well I'm not too sure they'll go with "Talk That Talk", the current urban single "You Da One" isn't doing amazing.

Posted by: Jack 29th December 2011, 07:07 PM

Thank GOD. 'Roc Me Out' is a poor man's 'Rude Boy'. At least 'Talk That Talk' brings something new to the table .... still any decision bar 'Where Have You Been' being a single is a completely stupid one!

Posted by: Doug 29th December 2011, 11:42 PM

please. no. not that. sad.gif it's probably my least favourite on the album now, I can't get past jay-z's horrific rap on it. the chorus is good, but the rest is pretty meh.
my unreleased favourites on the album probably wouldn't make good choices for singles though. 'roc me out', while epic, is pretty much 'rude boy' mk.2, 'drunk on love' wouldn't really work and 'farewell' would probably be better on later in the year. so I'd go with the obvious 'where have you been' for the next single which is growing me at an incredibly fast rate. wub.gif

Posted by: -Irish-Ladd- 30th December 2011, 01:13 AM

I've heard WHYB four times on the radio in the past week. I NEED a video!!

Posted by: rodannr 30th December 2011, 01:28 AM

she´s currently producing a video "Your da one"

Posted by: rodannr 30th December 2011, 01:28 AM

so.. i guess there´s a single/video combination?

Posted by: cookie_monster 3rd January 2012, 01:58 AM

Right, I haven't got around to buying this album yet so I'm going to listen to it on Youtube and then rate the tracks.

You Da One - 6/10. It's a nice sweet happy little song, but, my god, it's SO annoying. Ruined further by her grabbing her crotch every 5 seconds in the video. This song had potential but it just wasn't marketed that well. It could have done well around Valentines time. It also looks like it might become her lowest peaking second single ever as well.
Where Have You Been - 10/10. One of the best things on this album and the energy the track has is amazing. I think this really needs to be a single...
We Found Love - 10/10. IMO, one of the best things she's ever recorded. Yes, there is a lot of "We found love in a hopeless place" but I don't really notice it too much and so it doesn't annoy me. Being so big, it's kinda acting like a bit of a curse though and overshadowing the next single.
Talk That Talk - 9/10. Another great track. It's difficult to describe but the song just works, well...
Cockiness (Love It) - 1/10. One of the worst songs by Rihanna, or anyone for that matter, I've ever heard. Completely unlistenable.
Birthday Cake - 0/10. Just why would you include a half finished song on Rihanna's sixth album. They shouldn't be able to get away with it. It just sort of fades out when she's singing. What a mess. I know there's now a full version out there but people have paid to listen to a half finished song.
We All Want Love - 6/10. A little dull but not unpleasant. It kind of reminds me of an inferior version of Say Hello To Goodbye by Shontelle.
Drunk On Love - 8/10. I also really like this one, for the sample and Te Amo feeling and she actually sings like she means it!
Roc Me Out - 8/10. This one's quite good and fun without being annoying.
Watch n’ Learn - 6/10. It's alright but a bit dull and forgettable.
Farewell - 8/10. Much better than We All Want Love from the slow songs album.

Seems a bit of an extreme album. I'm usually quite open minded when it comes to albums but I'm surprised how strongly I feel about some tracks.

If I end up getting the album, I'll probably go for the Deluxe one, in the hope there'll be a few more tracks that stand out to me. This album isn't weak by any means. Despite We Found Love, I really hope her management don't mess it up for her this era.

Posted by: Jonjo 3rd January 2012, 02:28 AM

QUOTE(dannjohn3 @ Dec 29 2011, 05:56 PM) *
Well I'm not too sure they'll go with "Talk That Talk", the current urban single "You Da One" isn't doing amazing.
Doesn't mean 'Talk That Talk' won't do better. (Especially as it was more cherry picked than YDO at times, at the time of the albums release, after YDO was announced as the next single!)

I'm gutted 'Roc Me Out' isn't the next single! sad.gif Really don't get the hate for that song. Been growing on me since the albums release. 'Talk That Talk' would be the next best single choice (along with 'Where Have You Been') so if it's that I will be more than happy.

Posted by: JaRk 3rd January 2012, 01:45 PM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Jan 3 2012, 02:28 AM) *
I'm gutted 'Roc Me Out' isn't the next single! sad.gif Really don't get the hate for that song. Been growing on me since the albums release. 'Talk That Talk' would be the next best single choice (along with 'Where Have You Been') so if it's that I will be more than happy.

Roc Me Out would be a step back, I hope she doesn't inflict it on the world. Such a depressingly boring 'banger'. Talk That Talk doesn't have a strong enough chorus to be a big hit either, although it's a better song than Roc Me Out... she really just needs to go with Where Have You Been and then end the campaign right there and take a break.


Posted by: Davidson 3rd January 2012, 03:12 PM

QUOTE(Jonjo @ Jan 3 2012, 02:28 AM) *
I'm gutted 'Roc Me Out' isn't the next single! sad.gif Really don't get the hate for that song. Been growing on me since the albums release. 'Talk That Talk' would be the next best single choice (along with 'Where Have You Been') so if it's that I will be more than happy.


I agree, don't understand the hate for it. 'Roc Me Out' is my favourite out of the whole album - its like 'Rude Boy' meets 'Hard' which to me equals Rihanna at her best.

Posted by: JaRk 3rd January 2012, 03:17 PM

Except it's completely tepid and tame compared with Hard and has none of the feel-good charm of Rude Boy. Flat, recycled beats + boring vocals = non-event of a song.


Posted by: MANIAC 4th January 2012, 02:26 AM

Do Ya Thing would be marvelous I'd say.

Posted by: Tyler 4th January 2012, 05:01 AM

WE ALL WANT THAT... CAKE, CAKE, CAKE, CAKE, CAKE, CAKE, CAKE, ETC.

Complete it and make it the fourth single, just in time for Spring.

Posted by: Paramore 4th January 2012, 04:24 PM

Where Have You Been? is the best choice for the next single but it needs a remix. It has potential but its a bit sonically weak.

Posted by: Doug 13th January 2012, 09:17 PM

every song on the album apart from TTT is growing on me a whole lot now. I'm hooked on 'watch 'n' learn' in particular, which was my inital least favourite! ohmy.gif

Posted by: dannjohn3 14th January 2012, 12:57 PM

She's finishing "Birthday Cake".

Posted by: Acoustic 28th January 2012, 02:11 PM

'Farewell' as a single next, please. I think it could have similar success to 'California King Bed'.

Posted by: Jonjo 28th January 2012, 02:22 PM

What? You mean a middling hit here in the UK and a massive flop over in the US? heehee.gif But I think 'Farewell' would do what 'Fire Bomb' shoulda and coulda done! I'm still bitter at that not getting released drama.gif

Posted by: Acoustic 28th January 2012, 02:43 PM

US aside, I think it did ok for a fourth single which is probably what 'Farewell' would be.

Posted by: Silver Rocket 29th January 2012, 04:47 PM

'We Found Love', the title track and 'Where Have You Been' are the only three singles on this album really. They should've just had those in mind and forget the rest ever happened.

Posted by: Liаm 29th January 2012, 05:03 PM

I agree, TTT is far from my fave but along with WHYB it's really the only option. I really like Cockiness, Farewell, Watch N Learn and Drunk On Love too but they wouldn't work. Maybe Roc Me Out as a final single after WHYB if all goes well but she's a bit limited, which points to an inevitable re-release drama.gif

Posted by: Liаm 2nd February 2012, 08:20 PM




I'm thinking it will surface on her birthday biggrin.gif

Posted by: Acoustic 2nd February 2012, 11:06 PM

Although I'm glad she's finishing it and we'll get to hear Birthday Cake in full, I'm still quite annoyed it wasn't finished for the album in the first place.

Posted by: Kelly 4th February 2012, 04:49 PM

Without caring enough to find the appropriate topic I wanted to state that Talk That Talk (single) is epic. That's all really.

Posted by: Acoustic 4th February 2012, 05:07 PM

Heard 'Cockiness (Love It)' out last night. Sounds amazing in a club.



Posted by: Jack 4th February 2012, 06:27 PM

If they do have to push for a 5th single after Talk That Talk and Where Have You Been, I do think 'Cockiness (Love It)' would actually be the best choice.

Posted by: Paramore 7th February 2012, 05:37 PM

QUOTE(Liаm @ Feb 2 2012, 08:20 PM) *



I'm thinking it will surface on her birthday biggrin.gif


If any of us handed in a work assignment this late we'd be fired. Not cool RiRi.

Posted by: aprilj 11th February 2012, 10:19 AM

I think Birthday Cake will become fourth/fifth single. She has suggested it on Twitter and has asked about who we would like to feature on it. I've seen a few articles saying Christina Aguilera.

Whether Birthday Cake is fourth or fifth the other will be Where Have You Been.

After that I hope she takes at least a year's break because people will get bored of her if she is constantly releasing music and videos.

Posted by: Acoustic 11th February 2012, 07:22 PM

I think she also said on Twitter that she wanted a male artist to be on 'Birthday Cake'. I think Drake would be most likely.

Posted by: -Irish-Ladd- 11th February 2012, 08:10 PM

Not Drake, please. I've had enough of them two. Anytime I hear of them doing a collab, I thnk of all the dirty things they'd get up to in the studio tongue.gif
Perhaps Tinie Tempah?

Posted by: cookie_monster 12th February 2012, 12:45 AM

I actually don't think this album's that weak. There aren't a lot of stand out singles, bar 'We Found Love' and 'Where Have You Been' but Talk That Talk and Roc Me Out could work as singles if they have good music videos (Roc Me Out reminds me of her work from early eras but that's not a bad thing.) Drunk On Love may work at a push but all these tracks plus farewell are good, and I haven't got the album, nor have I listened to it a lot.

We'll see if she can recover after YDO with TTT. I think it might do moderately better and it is single material, but it's not a smash so I really can't call it!

Posted by: Silver Rocket 12th February 2012, 02:18 PM

I think 'Talk That Talk' does sound like a smash, but 'You Da One' may have crippled this era for her now.

Seriously, just why did they release that? I can't get my head around it.

Posted by: Jack 12th February 2012, 11:43 PM

I still think 'Talk That Talk' and 'Where Have You Been' will be hits, radio will still play her alot, she just needs to get them both out there asap.

Posted by: Tyler 17th February 2012, 04:12 AM

I think it's a great album...

Posted by: slowdown73 17th February 2012, 01:57 PM

I can't see "talk that talk" doing much better than "you da one". I don't really like either of them and its strange they have gone with two urban songs in a row. I thought we might get a more upbeat track as the third single. I'm still preying for where have you been to be released. Maybe this will be the 4th single. I dont think this album is selling as quickly as the last one did in the same time frame.

Posted by: Karma 21st February 2012, 11:18 AM

Where Have You Been will be huge when released, 100%! A massive hit waiting to happen. dance.gif

Posted by: Silver Rocket 21st February 2012, 12:29 PM

QUOTE(Karma @ Feb 21 2012, 11:18 AM) *
Where Have You Been will be huge when released, 100%! A massive hit waiting to happen. dance.gif


I'm starting to think it might not be, they've stupidly avoided it so far and show no indication of going with it anytime soon. sad.gif Hopefully it won't become this album's 'Fire Bomb'...

Posted by: MadonnaFan2012 27th February 2012, 12:07 PM

Love this more than Rated R

Posted by: cookie_monster 11th March 2012, 11:21 PM

I'm so confused with what's going on this era now! I thought Talk That Talk was the 3rd single as it has been playlisted by radio stations, but Where Have You Been is apparently now the 3rd international single but the remix of Birthday Cake has also been released in some places. So what single are we getting? laugh.gif This reminds me of how badly the singles from Rated R were managed, and this era started so well with We Found Love. sad.gif

I think she had two best routes for this album in relation to how the album sounds

We Found Love
Talk That Talk
Where Have You Been
You Da One (I think this because it would have been summer and wouldn't sound so bad being compared to WFL all the time)

or something like

We Found Love
Roc Me Out
Drunk On Love
Where Have You Been

Posted by: AV102 11th March 2012, 11:39 PM

Talk That Talk was scrapped and where have you been is the 3rd single internationally

Posted by: cookie_monster 12th March 2012, 12:17 AM

Do we know why it's been scrapped bearing in mind it's getting good radio support over here? blink.gif wacko.gif sad.gif

Posted by: Doug 12th March 2012, 12:19 AM

QUOTE(AV102 @ Mar 11 2012, 11:39 PM) *
Talk That Talk was scrapped and where have you been is the 3rd single internationally

please tell me that this is true! dance.gif

Posted by: AV102 12th March 2012, 02:41 AM

It is true. She didnt even shoot a Talk That Talk Music video. She is moving on to Where Have You Been. Its a smart move. I am hearing Where Have you been in all the clubs at the Moment. Its going to be massive biggrin.gif

Posted by: Aidan 12th March 2012, 04:25 PM

It doesn't make much sense though considering her Twitter page is promoting Talk That Talk and she performed Talk That Talk on Jonathan Ross. I'd rather they don't scrap Talk That Talk, I think it could be a moderate hit after a video release, and then 'Where Have You Been' would smash in summer.

Posted by: AV102 12th March 2012, 11:18 PM

Even if She had of Made a Video for Talk That Talk i couldnt see it being massive. She just needs to get The Where Have You Been Video out as soon as Possible and hopefully it starts getting airplay soon.

Posted by: AdamAloud 12th March 2012, 11:21 PM

It's a shame they're dropping 'Talk That Talk', really wanted a video for that. sad.gif Though 'Where Have You Been' is the obvious smash left on the album, so I can understand why they're moving on.

Posted by: Badboy104 24th April 2012, 06:57 AM

She in real nice rihanna

Posted by: Aidan 25th April 2012, 04:49 PM


Posted by: AV102 14th July 2012, 07:41 PM

i really want roc me out to be next single. it will go top 10 for sure

Posted by: Karma 21st July 2012, 11:57 AM

If anyone hasnt bought it yet, it is only £3.99 on iTunes in the UK right now! ohmy.gif (The deluxe edition too) If anyone wants it cheap while they can get it tongue.gif

Posted by: Conderella 9th January 2019, 08:40 PM

now this is just silly. WFL and WHYB are among her best songs of the entire career

Posted by: Jordan Lee 29th January 2020, 07:30 PM


Tbh this entire era for me is my least favourite of hers aside for her first two.

She released two really solid, really different campaigns with Rated R and Loud.

But this just didn’t have the same kind of appeal for me and it was a bit like a step backwards.

There’s stuff on the album I love (like Drunk on Love is one of my fave non singles she’s ever done and Farewell is pretty solid too) but on the whole she’s done way better.

Posted by: Jordan Lee 20th June 2020, 01:17 AM

Drunk On Love from this album just come on shuffle and holy s***

I think I’ll give this full album a spin tomorrow now! It’s the era of hers I revisit the least tbh other than her first album so I think I’ll be almost hearing with fresh ears!

Posted by: Andrew. 20th June 2020, 01:20 AM

It’s actually such a good album. You Da One (possibly her worst single choice EVER? following up WFL with...that I mean it’s fine but meh) and Farewell let it down for me but otherwise it’s much better than I used to give it credit for. Roc Me Out is my fave album track wub.gif

Posted by: Jordan Lee 20th June 2020, 11:08 AM

I was legit just gonna day after I’ve listened to this all the way through today. You Da One as a single is like WHY!!

I can see why Where Have You Been wasn’t the direct follow up given it was another Calvin produced track but You Da One is amongst the worst things she’s ever done for me singles wise. I think the title track could’ve been a bigger hit has it been on ANTI it’s sound is quite streaming friendly as opposed to the paid for sales climate when it was released. I’d say Cockiness fits into that description too.

Drunk on Love deserved single treatment though a huge missed opportunity! I also love We All Want Love bit feel some on here might think it’s MOR I hope I’m wrong at that though it’s a lovely track and she sounds great on it vocally.

I kinda think generally speaking though this is the era of hers what most feels like a rushed campaign. Unapologetic gets those critiques more but that’s a lot better as a body of work and has more of a flow and introspective feel than this. I’ll post my ranking of this later but possibly thinking of making this into a survivor once the Rated R one has concluded.

Posted by: jlj 18th November 2020, 03:37 PM


Posted by: -Jay- 22nd September 2021, 05:31 PM

We Found Love was released 10 years ago today ohmy.gif

I'm feeling very 👴🏻 about this! What a song.

Posted by: -Jay- 27th September 2021, 05:33 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58662388 I forgot about this We Found Love video shoot controversy!

This song/video really doesn't feel like 10 years ago cry.gif

Posted by: Sour Candy 27th September 2021, 08:25 AM

Not really feeling WFL these days. It's still great but the anthemic side was sooooo attached to my life back then and that's just not there any more.

Drunk in Love is one of her best album tracks wub.gif

Posted by: Jord 13th February 2022, 05:51 PM



Just come across this. Her whole discography is still doing very well on streaming sites wub.gif

Posted by: uhsting 17th January 2024, 06:32 PM

Where Have You Been going viral on TikTok as people are trying to recreate the Just Dance moves cheer.gif

Or maybe it's just me kink.gif

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