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Posted by: Common Sense 2nd June 2019, 11:16 PM
President Donald John Trump, the most powerful man in the world, lands at Stansted airport tomorrow morning, accompanied by all his children, their spouses and children. He wants to make it a truly family event. All those old enough will attend the State dinner hosted by The Queen tomorrow night at Buckingham Palace.
Sky News will be with him every step of the way. 
Posted by: Codyclipse 🌙 2nd June 2019, 11:28 PM
what an awful way to start pride month
Posted by: Common Sense 2nd June 2019, 11:36 PM
A massive security operation is already in force at Stansted airport where Air Force One will land sat 9am. with flights delayed or cancelled and public entry severely restricted. Also in Central London with all Met. police leave cancelled and hundreds of heavily armed Secret Service agents already here. He'll transfer to a Marine One helicopter and land on the Palace lawns as a carriage ride up The Mall with The Queen is considered too risky by the US Secret Service.
Posted by: Common Sense 3rd June 2019, 12:02 AM
There are reports that Prince Philip will not attend the state banquet but the Queen, Charles, Camilla, William and Kate will.
Posted by: Jαsє 3rd June 2019, 12:06 AM
Hope he has an awful time!
Posted by: Common Sense 3rd June 2019, 12:13 AM
How nasty.
What has he ever done wrong to you?
Posted by: Iz~ 3rd June 2019, 01:53 AM
The man is a criminal (sorry, 'we cannot say that the President did not commit a crime'), leading a regime built on strongman politics, horrific migrant treatments, radical and adversary conservatism, all centred around this man who comes off as more a combination of a petulant child and a lecherous oaf than a statesman.
Trump baby balloons aren't enough. We should not support him. Cordiality and famed British passive-aggressiveness at best, given it's happening.
Posted by: Common Sense 3rd June 2019, 08:19 AM
He's been busy Tweeting as he entered UK airspace, calling Sadi Khan a "stone-cold loser"
Think he just likes to stir up a bit of controversy.
Posted by: Common Sense 3rd June 2019, 08:24 AM
I think it's absolutely disgusting that the Shadow Foreign Secretary, Emily Thornberry MP, will be going out on to the streets of London to join protests tomorrow. Hasn't she better things to do? Should Labour win the next election and Trump be re-elected, she could be Foreign Secretary.
Posted by: TheSnake 3rd June 2019, 08:52 AM
I am curious now as to what commonsense said that needed this edit!
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 3rd June 2019, 09:21 AM
I hope everyone who's been stockpiling their bottles of piss can now unleash them.
Posted by: Common Sense 3rd June 2019, 09:26 AM
I'll PM you it. I said nothing offensive whatsoever.
The original thread title was "Welcome to the UK Mr. President" Nothing wrong with that at all.
Posted by: mald487 3rd June 2019, 10:42 AM
Hope he gets something thrown at him.
Posted by: Suedehead2 3rd June 2019, 12:27 PM
The last Foreign Secretary said that he didn’t want to go to New York because of the risk of meeting Trump. You seem to think that same person would be a good PM.
Posted by: linds 3rd June 2019, 12:43 PM
The original thread title was "Welcome to the UK Mr. President" Nothing wrong with that at all.
just be thankful I sent it here and not straight to the trashcan
Posted by: Popchartfreak 3rd June 2019, 01:31 PM
Think he just likes to stir up a bit of controversy.
No he likes to insult people, support racists and murderers, lie about his financial affairs, links to Russia, put his family into key government posts so they can makes shitloads of millions using their position for personal gain. Oh and half his staff have been found guilty of corruption, lying, and many other things. Crooks are generally hired by crooks. Crooks that hide their tax affairs, pardon fellow crooks who have supported him, and slag off everyone who doesn't toady up or state his very many negative qualities as a human being..
Oh and he's as thick as two short planks. He lies all the time. Have I mentioned the lying? He lies about things that are on film and 100% obvious to everyone, and still he lies. How do you know when Trump is lying? His mouth is open.
All of the above is fact, sorry Chris oops!
Posted by: Common Sense 3rd June 2019, 01:39 PM
A milkshake?
Posted by: vidcapper 3rd June 2019, 02:13 PM
What has he ever done wrong to you?Or indeed anyone on this group?
OK, he is an odious character, but he is still POTUS, and should be treated as such.
Posted by: mald487 3rd June 2019, 02:33 PM
OK, he is an odious character, but he is still POTUS, and should be treated as such.
No and no.
His administration has sought to roll back the rights of people like me. We don't choose our sexuality, and by having less rights than others the implication is that we are not equal.
So excuse me if the standard eye roll emojis and "He is POTUS" lines don't cut it for me.
I don't care who he is.
Posted by: Iz~ 3rd June 2019, 03:09 PM
Titles don't make anyone immune to criticism and I'm shocked that that idea is being bandied about here, that's totalitarian nonsense.
His crimes, his stupidity and incompetence are regularly on display, his regime's intolerance regressiveness is quite readily apparent. The fact that he persuaded half of America to fall for his populist cult makes no difference.
Posted by: vidcapper 3rd June 2019, 03:28 PM
His administration has sought to roll back the rights of people like me. We don't choose our sexuality, and by having less rights than others the implication is that we are not equal.
So excuse me if the standard eye roll emojis and "He is POTUS" lines don't cut it for me.
I don't care who he is.
I assume you are an American then?
If not, then he is in no position to affect your rights.
Posted by: Iz~ 3rd June 2019, 04:11 PM
And why does that matter? Do we have to be personally affected, can we not have compassion for others who but for the accident of birth could be us?
And, as an aside, why are you going out of your way to implicitly defend such an "odious character"?
Posted by: blacksquare 3rd June 2019, 04:23 PM
If not, then he is in no position to affect your rights.
Imagine having empathy for the people who ARE affected by his policies, hatred, and bigotry.
He holds one of the most important and influential positions in the west — you don't need to be American to have an opinion or be critical.
Posted by: Jαsє 3rd June 2019, 04:24 PM
What has he ever done wrong to you?Yeah I ain't communicating with a Trump supporter, bye
Posted by: blacksquare 3rd June 2019, 04:26 PM
What has he ever done wrong to you?Beyond ridiculous. You have written far nastier in this very forum.
The hypocrisy is just laughable.
Posted by: Kath 3rd June 2019, 04:32 PM
I agree!
Posted by: Kath 3rd June 2019, 04:35 PM
Think he just likes to stir up a bit of controversy.
A bit like what you try to do Chris eh?
Posted by: T Boy 3rd June 2019, 04:42 PM
There is absolutely no need whatsoever for us to treat this creep with any respect just because he’s President of the United States. It doesn’t make him any better than the rest of us and given the awful views he carries, he’s actually scum and should be treated worse than others. I want him to piss off.
Posted by: ScottyEm 3rd June 2019, 07:08 PM
Unless your protest is to overturn a political stance (Clause 28, equal pay, Brexit etc), I think they are otherwise futile. I don’t believe a protest will ultimately change anything.
That said, Trump is a massive piece of shit. I’d deconstruct why, but I’ll let ol faithful Jonathan Pie do that...
Brexit gets a shout out. I’m of the belief that if you support Brexit by any means necessary, there is no hope for you.
Posted by: vidcapper 4th June 2019, 05:07 AM
And, as an aside, why are you going out of your way to implicitly defend such an "odious character"?
My use of 'odious' was specifically meant to imply the exact opposite of defence - I'm afraid the misinterpretation is yours.
Posted by: Iz~ 4th June 2019, 06:19 AM
Great, then you can join us in celebrating how awful he is and how our criticism and lack of respect towards him is completely valid.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 06:46 AM
At least if Trump was in charge of our Brexit negotiations we'd have left with no deal by now. He'd have got Farage in to lead the negotiations he said too and get really tough with the EU. He wouldn't pay them another penny unless they agreed to all our demands. For a guy who's never been a diplomat he has the right idea. May and her others have just messed about with EU bosses and been too soft with them. We need a really tough no-nonsense leader like Trump.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 07:00 AM
Harry's another waste of space like Corbyn, Cable and Bercow. He apparently didn't turn up to the State Banquet after Trump's remarks about his wife. He was expected according to The Mirror and just went home to Meghan and his son instead.
Posted by: Suedehead2 4th June 2019, 07:04 AM
Now perhaps you would care to explain how we would get the EU even to start talking about a trade deal if we still owed them a hefty sum of money. What do you think walking away from our obligations would do to our credit rating? How would you persuade other countries that we can be trusted to stick to any deals we might agree?
Are you saying that, after three years, you still think that we hold all the cards and that the EU need us more than we need them? If so, perhaps you could provide some evidence to support that.
Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 4th June 2019, 08:03 AM
Yes Harry!!!! Good lad
Posted by: mald487 4th June 2019, 08:04 AM
I.....never mind. I forgot for a second you don't respond to reason.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 08:18 AM
Are you saying that, after three years, you still think that we hold all the cards and that the EU need us more than we need them? If so, perhaps you could provide some evidence to support that.
Then we'd leave with NO DEAL as we should have done in March.
Posted by: mald487 4th June 2019, 08:26 AM
You replied to his post but didn't answer any of his questions.
That is not a response to what he was saying. It was just a statement.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 4th June 2019, 08:28 AM
Yes well, after what that sack of useless orange flesh said about his late mother I can hardly blame him quite frankly.
Good on him, I say!
Posted by: Iz~ 4th June 2019, 08:32 AM
Kind of basic concept of diplomacy, don’t insult your hosts. And especially don’t use your public platform to defame them like he did to Sadiq Khan. Harry’s well justified in wanting no part of this.
I can guarantee you that the EU would have laughed someone with Trump’s attitude out of negotiations very quickly.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 08:50 AM
As Royal commentator Ingrid Seward writes in today's Sun he acted very immaturely. He was the third most Senior royal in the room at lunch-time and should have made sure he spoke to Trump. In fact he should have been formally introduced to him. Let's see if he ignored him then. He's gone right down in my estimation. If he doesn't want to do his duties and fully support The Queen then let him get a job and stop taking money from his father or rather the Duchy Of Cornwall. I know he's not on the Civil List.
Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 4th June 2019, 08:54 AM
https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-sex-princess-diana-hiv-test-howard-stern-interview/
"In a 1997 radio interview with Howard Stern just months after Princess Diana‘s death, Donald Trump insisted that he “could have” had sex with the late British royal — but only would have done so if she passed an HIV test first."
The man is scum, Harry absolutely did the right thing.
Posted by: blacksquare 4th June 2019, 09:04 AM
"In a 1997 radio interview with Howard Stern just months after Princess Diana‘s death, Donald Trump insisted that he “could have” had sex with the late British royal — but only would have done so if she passed an HIV test first."
The man is scum, Harry absolutely did the right thing.
I wonder if his reaction, as well as those on the right who love Express and the Daily Mail, would be the same if Harry was seen ignoring Jeremy Corbyn or Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Suedehead2 4th June 2019, 09:25 AM
Read what I said again. It was all based on the sheer lunacy of leaving without a deal.
Posted by: TheJüpreme 4th June 2019, 10:13 AM
You do know that immediately after 'leaving with no deal' the first thing you as a country would need to do is sign deals, right? While in the meantime having zero trade in or out including flights, travel, food and medicine purchases.
That would directly impact your life personally. Bye bye cheap cans at the supermarket. Bye bye cheap anything until deals get signed and agreed.
Posted by: mald487 4th June 2019, 10:48 AM
God forbid a man prioritises spending time with his wife and his newly born son over time with a man who has insulted his wife and suggests that his mother might have HIV.
You're ridiculous.
Posted by: Jαsє 4th June 2019, 11:29 AM
https://twitter.com/lirpalomina/status/1135686793318215682
Oops @ The Queen shading Trump!
Posted by: Jαsє 4th June 2019, 11:30 AM
"In a 1997 radio interview with Howard Stern just months after Princess Diana‘s death, Donald Trump insisted that he “could have” had sex with the late British royal — but only would have done so if she passed an HIV test first."
The man is scum, Harry absolutely did the right thing.
God he really is a rancid c**t
Shame on anybody who supports it.
Posted by: ScottyEm 4th June 2019, 11:52 AM
A lot of people voted leave in 2016 due to the promises made by campaigners who suggested we’d strike amazing deals including with the EU. This hasn’t materialised. Now Brexiters are saying we should still respect the result and it’s all they have left to cling on to because they have nothing left. It’s truly diabolical and the basic wanky rhetoric of Brexiters is toxic.
Posted by: blacksquare 4th June 2019, 11:54 AM
Oops @ The Queen shading Trump!
Posted by: Rooney 4th June 2019, 11:57 AM
Chris sometimes you’re like a broken record on repeat.
We can leave with No Deal and I’m sure Trump would have tried to do that. But what the No Dealers don’t tell you is we have to make a deal at some point. You’re from a shite negotiating standpoint when you’ve got 20% trade tariffs. Absolute miffs that people want to leave with EU with No Deal.
Posted by: Suedehead2 4th June 2019, 12:41 PM
Among the people at the banquet last night were most senior Cabinet members plus Michael Gove and disgraced former Defence Secretary Liam Fox. Just one senior Cabinet member was not invited - Sajid Javid. Anyone still want to claim that Trump isn't even a little bit racist?
Posted by: Jαsє 4th June 2019, 01:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1135851688105918464
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 01:53 PM
Ha ha. So it's all coming out. Trump said Corbyn asked for a meeting but he refused to see him and Corbyn's office has confirmed this. Good on you Mr. President. He's a disgrace and you don't need to meet him.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 02:03 PM
Which Government members are invited is up to No.10. Nothing to do with Trump. They make a list, as does the US Embassy and the Palace. Sky explained all this last night.
Posted by: Suedehead2 4th June 2019, 02:16 PM
Number 10 submits the list, but it will always be compiled with the main guest's preferences in mind.
Posted by: Suedehead2 4th June 2019, 02:17 PM
Hang on. Yesterday Corbyn was a disgrace for not observing normal diplomatic protocol. Now Trump is wonderful for doing exactly the same thing. I wish you'd make up your mind.
Posted by: TheJüpreme 4th June 2019, 03:33 PM
What planet do you have to live on to call Corbyn a disgrace and praise Trump, a rich psychopath who abused his wife and other women, cheated on his wife with a pornstar and then made her have an abortion, wasted away millions and millions of dollars on shite business ventures and is an all round scummy and classless creep. Before you get into working with Russians to undermine America and the racism.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 03:54 PM
Nigel Farage spotted being driven to Winfield House to meet Trump and possibly attend his dinner tonight too.
Charles and Camilla are guests of honour instead of The Queen but up to Trump and the Americans who else is invited.
Posted by: Common Sense 4th June 2019, 03:55 PM
Corbyn's the Leader Of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition and as such should have got spruced up and attended the State Banquet last night. No excuses. Nothing can excuse his absence. Hardly very loyal to the Monarch was he?
Posted by: mald487 4th June 2019, 04:23 PM
It's like trying to have a conversation with a brainwashed parrot.
I can only assume you endorse all of Trumps atrocities, since your head is so far up his rear.
Any opinions on Trumps wishes to have the NHS on the table in any negotiations that we do on trade deals with the US? That OK with you?
Who I am kidding, you'll just ignore it and won't respond.
Posted by: Kath 4th June 2019, 04:51 PM
Keep going Chris - you've only a little distance upward before you clear Trump's alimentary canal and on your way up through the oesophagus - in no time you'll be out through his mouth. I hope you didn't find navigating his rectum too difficult on your travels!
Posted by: Doctor Blind 4th June 2019, 04:58 PM
I have treated this state visit with the attention and concentration it deserved... by completely ignoring it.
Posted by: Riser 4th June 2019, 05:02 PM
Agreed. I can't imagine caring this much about the whereabouts of anyone, let alone that guy.
Posted by: Chez Wombat 4th June 2019, 05:34 PM
I feel the weather in London today has been very apt for reflecting our feelings towards his visit.
Posted by: mald487 4th June 2019, 05:37 PM
What? How dare you!!!!!! Mr Trump is the President of the United States of America and we are all obligated to give him respect he deserves.
P.s. no quips or crappy remarks, even if he insults your wife, wants to take your health care away and thinks your mother has HIV!
Don't be mean to Donald!!!
......... ;-)
Posted by: mald487 4th June 2019, 05:38 PM
Poor Donald
Posted by: 5 Silas Frøkner 4th June 2019, 08:14 PM
Here in the real world, the exact opposite is true. Harry has shown himself to have great maturity and courage.
He can only continue to rise in my estimations. What he has done for members of the armed forces injured in the line of duty is outstanding. The invictus games is an absolute triumph.
You’re one to talk about taking money from to public purse and not working. Job shy w***
Posted by: Suedehead2 6th June 2019, 05:53 PM
The FLOT (Fat Lying Orange Thing) has been in Ireland. While he was there, he compared the Irish border issue with his own Mexico / US border issue as if they were identical problems. Taoiseach Leo Varadkar had to point out (very politely) that the issues could hardly be more different. That didn't stop the FLOT carrying on as if the two issues were comparable.
If I was one of the people employed to prepare briefing notes for Trump, I think I'd be questioning whether there might be a more constructive use of my time.
Posted by: TheJüpreme 6th June 2019, 06:31 PM
I'm counting down the days until the old bast*rd croaks it.
Posted by: Suedehead2 6th June 2019, 09:10 PM
And so today he had talks with Emanuel Macron and babbled on about the EU negotiations with the UK. The dimwit seems to think the negotiations were still ongoing. Macron looked like he was struggling not to burst out laughing at the FLOT's ignorance. Why are there so many Americans who don't get that their president is a national embarrassment?
Posted by: Jαsє 6th June 2019, 09:24 PM
Posted by: Common Sense 6th June 2019, 10:01 PM
If I was one of the people employed to prepare briefing notes for Trump, I think I'd be questioning whether there might be a more constructive use of my time.
Have seen the video.
He just kept saying everything will be alright. Over and over again.
Posted by: Common Sense 6th June 2019, 10:03 PM
Hope it's not until he's completed his full second term.
Posted by: Suedehead2 6th June 2019, 10:06 PM
Even though you've just accepted in the post above that he is an utter moron.
Posted by: Common Sense 7th June 2019, 08:43 AM
I haven't at all. He said everything will be okay with Brexit and I agree with that.
Posted by: Suedehead2 7th June 2019, 09:44 AM
Even if everything is OK (and that's a very big if), that's still a long way short of the sunlit uplands promised by the Leave campaign. As for Trump simply sitting there repeating platitudes, that is the sign of an utter moron, not a statesman.
Posted by: Suedehead2 8th June 2019, 11:01 AM
So Trump has claimed in a tweet that the moon is part of Mars. Anyone still think he isn't a moron?
Posted by: Popchartfreak 8th June 2019, 11:27 AM
I hate to stand up for trump but he gets confused with science stuff. So yes a moron. But I think he means it's part of the programme to get to mars - which it is - but it's not the aim in and of itself. He's been listening to fox news again shagging off going back to the moon "cos we don't need to as did that 50 years ago" in much the same way as we didn't need to go back to the USA 50 years after first visiting as 16th century fox news would have scrawled on parchment at the time....
Posted by: Suedehead2 8th June 2019, 11:32 AM
This, of course, contradicts his previous pledge to return to the moon. His capacity for slagging off his own pronouncements knows no bounds.
Posted by: Popchartfreak 8th June 2019, 11:39 AM
Absolute total moron of course cos he can't recall half of what he says. Half his lies are prob just brain cells expiring at a rapid rate so its all new to him. He genuinely should be tested....
Posted by: Common Sense 9th June 2019, 05:50 PM
Look I'm sure if he at least didn't have basic intelligence and common-sense then he wouldn't have survived two and a half years as President. He attends meetings almost daily, with VP Pence, Cabinet, Defence Chiefs etc etc. Someone would have noticed that he wasn't up to the job, apart from vindictive journalists and people who dislike him on the Net.
Posted by: Suedehead2 9th June 2019, 06:11 PM
You mean like the former members of his administration who have said things along those lines? Someone who contradicts himself as often as Trump does is not demonstrating a powerful intellect. Of course, if by "basic intelligence" you mean he is capable of remembering his name, he probably passes the test.
Posted by: Popchartfreak 9th June 2019, 06:29 PM
No they have noticed (those who arent in prison already, but have left) and they have commented that he's an idiot. Rich idiots can do whatever they want cos they have money to fall back on. He still hasnt filled so many positions, doesnt pay attention when he bothers to have update sessions, and generally ignores the US constitution and gives his kids cushy jobs to help them get richer. All illegal
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