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 Jun 23 2019, 02:34 PM
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Some of the things being said about the alleged incident involving Johnson are positively frightening, for two main reasons. First, there is the suggestion that the neighbour should simply have ignored it, rather than reporting it and making a recording which could potentially have been used as evidence.
Second, the abuse hurled at the neighbour is scar in what is supposed to be a democracy. The Telegraph is leading the way with a front-page article accusing him of the unspeakable crime of being left-wing. Yes, the Telegraph's official line is that left-leaning people should not be allowed to report suspicions of domestic violence and should definitely not be allowed to do anything that might damage the career of a Telegraph employee. If this is a sign of things to come in the event of a Johnson victory, the UK is about to go through a very dark period in its history. |
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Jun 23 2019, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jun 23 2019, 03:34 PM)  Some of the things being said about the alleged incident involving Johnson are positively frightening, for two main reasons. First, there is the suggestion that the neighbour should simply have ignored it, rather than reporting it and making a recording which could potentially have been used as evidence. Second, the abuse hurled at the neighbour is scar in what is supposed to be a democracy. The Telegraph is leading the way with a front-page article accusing him of the unspeakable crime of being left-wing. Yes, the Telegraph's official line is that left-leaning people should not be allowed to report suspicions of domestic violence and should definitely not be allowed to do anything that might damage the career of a Telegraph employee. If this is a sign of things to come in the event of a Johnson victory, the UK is about to go through a very dark period in its history. 1. He is likely to be PM so it's in the public interest to know what the the Steve Bannon-collaborating hypocrite is up to in his dealings with his own "family" 2. Telegraph is hugely hypocritical, happy to publish any anti-left BS pushed by people such as their paid lapdog Johnson, for example Diana Abbot having a quick drink on the Tube - which is also in the public interest cos she's an MP. The main difference is they didn't have an investigation into the members of the public who person tattle-tailed on Abbot, or Corbyn, or anyone they don't like. Nothing they did was illegal. It's just a way of trying to make the story seem unfair on poor ol Boris and his inability to keep women on his side as he sloshes wine all over the furniture and the old bag moans and whinges loudly, how very dare she say anything about the future saviour of the Telegr... I mean Brexit! And also to warn anyone else off doing that, or they'll also get the heavy mob treatment, because that is what UK politics is now: threats to shut up and mind yer place or else. |
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Jun 23 2019, 06:40 PM
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Speaking of the Telegraph, Allison Pearson (a journalist from that rag) who had been fiercely criticising Boris Johnson's neighbours tweeted this in 2011: A contemptible, duplicitous hypocrite. A prime example of why people perceive journalists as being scum. |
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Jun 23 2019, 07:43 PM
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[quote name='Suedehead2' date='Jun 22 2019, 09:42 AM' post='6262718']
So you don’t think this shows a lack of judgment? /quote] Not really. It shows he's a true man of the people and just like the ordinary working man, warts and all. According to The Met, nobody was harmed and no charges will follow it seems. A load of fuss over nothing. Seems that If Boris farts tomorrow it'll be world news.  No wonder he's refusing to discuss this. Nothing to see here folks and time to move on.
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Jun 23 2019, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 23 2019, 08:43 PM) So you don’t think this shows a lack of judgment? /quote] Not really. It shows he's a true man of the people and just like the ordinary working man, warts and all. According to The Met, nobody was harmed and no charges will follow it seems. A load of fuss over nothing. Seems that If Boris farts tomorrow it'll be world news. No wonder he's refusing to discuss this. Nothing to see here folks and time to move on.Chris, Boris Johnson is about about a far away from "man of the people" as you can get. He is refusing to discuss because he is being advised not to and he has been this way for some time. The Guardian have not released the tape which means 1) there is nothing juicy on it 2) there is some injuction imposed on them or 3) they will use it later down the line. I reckon it's probably number 3. |
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Jun 24 2019, 08:38 AM
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to add to Rooney's spot-on assessment
Facts from Wikipedia: "Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson (born 19 June 1964. Born in New York to wealthy upper-middle class English parents, Johnson was educated at the European School of Brussels, Ashdown House, and Eton College. He read Classics at Balliol College, Oxford, where he was elected President of the Oxford Union in 1986. He began his career in journalism at The Times but was sacked for falsifying a quotation. He later became The Daily Telegraph's Brussels correspondent, with his articles exerting a strong influence on growing Eurosceptic sentiment among the British right wing. He was assistant editor of the Telegraph from 1994 to 1999 and edited The Spectator from 1999 to 2005. He was elected MP for Henley in 2001, and served in the Shadow Cabinet under Conservative leaders Michael Howard and David Cameron. " Don;t know about anyone else on Buzzjack, but I went to a Comprehensive, worked in factories, went to a teacher-training college, and have had low-paid jobs in Local Government most of my life. Johnson has NOTHING to do with being a Man Of The People, he serves the rich and powerful cronies he hangs around with. Now if he popped down my local for the pub quiz (like our current LibDem Leader of the Council did 2 weeks ago) I might agree there is some truth in it. He knows nothing about ordinary people, and has defended the elite as progressing human society and being necessary. Note, not the geeks and nerds who come up with life-changing inventions, the smart people, the innovators, but the "elite" (which to me means those who inherited wealth and power, just like him). |
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Jun 24 2019, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 23 2019, 08:43 PM) Not really. It shows he's a true man of the people and just like the ordinary working man, warts and all. According to The Met, nobody was harmed and no charges will follow it seems. A load of fuss over nothing. Seems that If Boris farts tomorrow it'll be world news. No wonder he's refusing to discuss this. Nothing to see here folks and time to move on.Urgh, good grief. Why are you like this? |
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Jun 24 2019, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 24 2019, 10:12 AM) Urgh, good grief. Why are you like this? Like what exactly? Am just a massive Boris fan and have been for years. He's the best man out of the two for the job by far. |
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Jun 24 2019, 09:35 AM
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In politics, being a 'fan' of anyone is dangerous (this is not sports) and at its worst leads to 'cults of personality' like the one that's currently surrounding the American President. If you are not critical of your leaders when they do something morally abhorrent, then everyone else must assume that you support such morally abhorrent acts.
Like, say, for example, domestic violence from a man on the cusp of becoming PM of this country. |
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Jun 24 2019, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 23 2019, 08:43 PM) Not really. It shows he's a true man of the people and just like the ordinary working man, warts and all. According to The Met, nobody was harmed and no charges will follow it seems. A load of fuss over nothing. Seems that If Boris farts tomorrow it'll be world news. No wonder he's refusing to discuss this. Nothing to see here folks and time to move on.This oaf described the £275,000 per year he receives from the Telegraph as “chicken feed”. How does that make him a man of the people? |
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Jun 24 2019, 01:34 PM
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Indeed... he is pretty shameless about it too - at the first Hustings he said ‘from the Crash of 2008 onward... can you think of anybody who stuck up for the bankers as much as I did?’
Chris, you are being exploited... Disgusting the way that some of the media have treated that member of the public over this, and hypocritical given the whole Leveson enquiry and the underhand tactics that they used routinely to extort information that wasn't in the national interest. Anyway, seems odd that Boris has had nothing to say on this matter as couples arguing is perfectly normal and it almost leads me to think that there is something to hide here. ‘get off my fucking laptop’ ‘Fuck business’ The man is a clear liability. |
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Jun 24 2019, 02:05 PM
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The hypocrisy continues |
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Jun 24 2019, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(Iz~ @ Jun 24 2019, 09:35 AM) In politics, being a 'fan' of anyone is dangerous (this is not sports) and at its worst leads to 'cults of personality' like the one that's currently surrounding the American President. If you are not critical of your leaders when they do something morally abhorrent, then everyone else must assume that you support such morally abhorrent acts. Like, say, for example, domestic violence from a man on the cusp of becoming PM of this country. Absolutely. This isn't Celebrity Big Brother. Once you become a 'fan' of somebody you lose all objectivity. |
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Jun 24 2019, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(blacksquare @ Jun 24 2019, 03:05 PM) The hypocrisy continues Probably hired to save face and show everythings fine |
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Jun 24 2019, 06:03 PM
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Johnson has continued his policy of avoiding any potentially awkward questions by declining an invitation to a Sky News debate. I assume Chris will now withdraw his support as Johnson has snubbed his favourite channel.
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Jun 24 2019, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jun 24 2019, 07:03 PM) Johnson has continued his policy of avoiding any potentially awkward questions by declining an invitation to a Sky News debate. I assume Chris will now withdraw his support as Johnson has snubbed his favourite channel. He has nothing to really gain by doing a debate and everything to lose. He's already miles ahead with the Tory membership and one slip and the press and Twitter will jump on him like a pack of rabid dogs. |
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Jun 24 2019, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 24 2019, 08:08 PM) He has nothing to really gain by doing a debate and everything to lose. He's already miles ahead with the Tory membership and one slip and the press and Twitter will jump on him like a pack of rabid dogs. If he’s afraid of a cock up, how does that make him fit to be PM? |
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Jun 25 2019, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 24 2019, 08:08 PM) He has nothing to really gain by doing a debate and everything to lose. He's already miles ahead with the Tory membership and one slip and the press and Twitter will jump on him like a pack of rabid dogs. The press are making his lovey-dovey set-up photo-op the front page. How's that thing about the "Press" rabidly attacking him going? You mean the press that PAY HIM TO WRITE FOR THEM? Just imagine Corbyn had had an argument with his latest girlfriend, and that was recorded. Now THAT is when you'd see rabid dogs..... It's the hypocrisy I can't stand. Twitter jumps on everyone like a pack of dogs BTW. You could be Jesus reborn preaching love and tolerance and twitter would still slag you off mercilessly because people with problems and hate and bitterness love to slag off other people who don't. Culprit number 1: see Mr Trump still slagging off a dead war hero from his own party, when he, a draft dodger, didn't get invited to the funeral cos he'd been slagging him off while he was battling cancer - so he had a baby strop about it and can't let it go even when he died. |
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Jun 25 2019, 07:53 AM
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Best thing about that photo is that it’s already been demonstrated that it’s not even a f***ing recent photo
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Jun 25 2019, 04:19 PM
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