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Brer
post 20th June 2019, 07:05 PM
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It's a good thing Boris is going to win tbh. Everyone might be a bit confused if both the Prime Minister and the leader of the opposition were named Jeremy C.

(not my joke)
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Steve201
post 21st June 2019, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 20 2019, 09:16 AM) *
I feel like this needs to be reiterated:
Words from the actual former Brexit Secretary in 2012.

Democracy isn't a static thing, otherwise we wouldn't have general elections and changes in governing parties.


It's one of my three favourite quotes - the other two are:

Churchill 'Democracy is the worst type of government, apart from all the rest'
Nye Bevan 'If You Stand in the Middle of the Road you will get knocked over'
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post 21st June 2019, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(Steve201 @ Jun 21 2019, 01:46 AM) *
Nye Bevan 'If You Stand in the Middle of the Road you will get knocked over'


"Not if you're on a bridge".

- Brett-Butler.
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post 21st June 2019, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Jun 21 2019, 08:59 AM) *
"Not if you're on a bridge".

- Brett-Butler.


Bridges down this part of the country are often single-track. You still get run over, you just have no idea from which direction you're going to get knocked down laugh.gif
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post 21st June 2019, 11:22 AM
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What a time to be alive
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post 21st June 2019, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Jun 21 2019, 08:59 AM) *
"Not if you're on a bridge".

- Brett-Butler.


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post 21st June 2019, 08:00 PM
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Police called to loud altercation at Boris Johnson's home:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/j...IVLzxqh0j-FlfNQ

How the fuck can we trust him to manage the economy if his own partner says he's no good with money?
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Jessie Where
post 21st June 2019, 08:02 PM
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Actually, I should have just left that at "How the fuck can we trust him?"
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post 21st June 2019, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 21 2019, 09:00 PM) *
Police called to loud altercation at Boris Johnson's home:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/j...IVLzxqh0j-FlfNQ

How the fuck can we trust him to manage the economy if his own partner says he's no good with money?

He's probably chasing Mark Field's vote.
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post 22nd June 2019, 08:00 AM
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QUOTE(Tawdry Hepburn @ Jun 21 2019, 09:00 PM) *
Police called to loud altercation at Boris Johnson's home:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/j...IVLzxqh0j-FlfNQ

How the fuck can we trust him to manage the economy if his own partner says he's no good with money?


It must come as a complete shock to her that the man she's involved with is untrustworthy and flaky, given his habit of cheating on his wives, habitually lying to the entire world, and not doing his homework when he's given a job. Who knew!? It'll take more than a haircut to change him.

But hey, Tories have no option cos they are going to wiped out and he's their last great hope to avoid it. Yes, really. That's how desperate they are.....
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post 22nd June 2019, 08:33 AM
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Most couples argue at some time or another and occasionally the police get called. A passer-by called the police once when my wife and daughter were having a loud argument. Shows Boris is only human and one of us.

Let's hope this doesn't affect his leadership bid. smile.gif


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post 22nd June 2019, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(Common Sense @ Jun 22 2019, 09:33 AM) *
Most couples argue at some time or another and occasionally the police get called. A passer-by called the police once when my wife and daughter were having a loud argument. Shows Boris is only human and one of us.

Let's hope this doesn't affect his leadership bid. smile.gif

So you don’t think this shows a lack of judgment? Yes, we all have rows, but a sane person would avoid doing so in a semi-public place when on the verge of becoming PM.
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post 23rd June 2019, 12:18 AM
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Papers are going hard on Boris at the moment, can only assume Murdoch has decided he wants Hunt as PM. Still Boris is too popular with the members and he will win the race, but I can't see him lasting too long in office.
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post 23rd June 2019, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jun 23 2019, 01:18 AM) *
Papers are going hard on Boris at the moment, can only assume Murdoch has decided he wants Hunt as PM. Still Boris is too popular with the members and he will win the race, but I can't see him lasting too long in office.


You think him being leader will trigger an early GE then?
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post 23rd June 2019, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jun 23 2019, 05:52 AM) *
You think him being leader will trigger an early GE then?


You mean the man who was sacked by The Times in his first job for falsifying a quotation, a man running to be a Prime Minister living in his girlfriends flat cos he cheated on his wife (again) and who still can't avoid annoying her with his behaviour, a man who lost his previous seat in Parliament, a man who doesn;t do his jobs properly when her gets them, cos he's too flaky and lazy (this is what people who know him say - nobody says he's a hard worker with a grasp on issues), a man who has claimed without the "elite" we'd still be living in caves? The man who has just won the party nomination pretty much and still cocks it up? A man with a history of failure and lying? A man who claims he has a solution to Brexit that May never thought of, but he can't explain what it is?

What could possibly go wrong!

Still, no-one will want to live at number 11 if his girlfriend moves in with him - they'd never get any sleep.
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post 23rd June 2019, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(Rooney @ Jun 23 2019, 01:18 AM) *
Papers are going hard on Boris at the moment, can only assume Murdoch has decided he wants Hunt as PM. Still Boris is too popular with the members and he will win the race, but I can't see him lasting too long in office.

Hunt’s first Cabinet job was Minister for Murdoch. Murdich, therefore, knows how co-operative he can be.
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post 23rd June 2019, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(Popchartfreak @ Jun 23 2019, 08:19 AM) *
You mean the man who was sacked by The Times in his first job for falsifying a quotation, a man running to be a Prime Minister living in his girlfriends flat cos he cheated on his wife (again) and who still can't avoid annoying her with his behaviour, a man who lost his previous seat in Parliament, a man who doesn;t do his jobs properly when her gets them, cos he's too flaky and lazy (this is what people who know him say - nobody says he's a hard worker with a grasp on issues), a man who has claimed without the "elite" we'd still be living in caves? The man who has just won the party nomination pretty much and still cocks it up? A man with a history of failure and lying? A man who claims he has a solution to Brexit that May never thought of, but he can't explain what it is?

What could possibly go wrong!

Still, no-one will want to live at number 11 if his girlfriend moves in with him - they'd never get any sleep.

In the interest of accuracy, I should point out that Johnson didn’t lose his previous seat. He resigned from it when he became London mayor. He then got himself selected for another seat while still mayor after promising he wouldn’t.
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post 23rd June 2019, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(vidcapper @ Jun 23 2019, 05:52 AM) *
You think him being leader will trigger an early GE then?


The Tories don't want a General Election. The memberbase probably see Boris as the populist option, which may have been the case 3-4 years ago, but no more. He's lost a lot of his stock with the general public who think he's either a moron or flips his mantro depending on who he is talking to. They are going to lose a lot of their marginal seats to Lib Dems and the Brexit Party also likely to target them as well if we don't leave on 31st October. The only wat a General Election might work for them is if Labour lose a lot of their seats to Lib Dem/Brexit too.

Plus Boris has so many enemies both in his own party and elsewhere. There's bound to be tons of dirt on him people are willing to use.
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post 23rd June 2019, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Jun 23 2019, 10:04 AM) *
In the interest of accuracy, I should point out that Johnson didn’t lose his previous seat. He resigned from it when he became London mayor. He then got himself selected for another seat while still mayor after promising he wouldn’t.


Thanks Simon, oops, the memory fades laugh.gif

Worth mentioning all the Mayoral promises he didn't deliver on:

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/fac...as-london-mayor
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post 23rd June 2019, 11:54 AM
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Think Sturg’s very matter of fact answer sums up most of our feelings quite well
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