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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Reality TV _ The X Factor ● Series 14 ● THE FINAL
Posted by: jase. Nov 28 2017, 09:18 PM
The X Factor final airs this Saturday night on ITV at 19:05pm from The ExCel centre. It concludes on Sunday night from 19:15pm.
The finalists -
Rat-Su
Grace Davies
Kevin Davy White
Duets TBC.
Guest performers: P!nk, Little Mix/CNCO, Louis Tomlinson, Sam Smith, PrettyMuch
Tellymix WHO DO YOU WANT TO WIN poll -
1 - Rat-Su 37.59% (627 votes)
2 - Grace Davies 32.61% (544 votes)
3 - Kevin Davy White 29.8% (497 votes)
The poll results are actually a lot closer than I imagined 
Our Saara topped last years Tellymix poll and we all know what happened there 
Posted by: danVember Nov 28 2017, 09:37 PM
I expect Rak-Su will win and hope this is the case as they are obviously the most popular act this year and stand the biggest chance of being Simon's next money grabber.
Posted by: Liаm Nov 28 2017, 09:38 PM
Rak-Su will almost certainly do a Fleur East and have one milked out hit, I can see it 
They are certainly going to win though.
Posted by: Ryan. Nov 28 2017, 09:51 PM
This is potentially one of the best final 3s ever, not a fan of Rak-Su but it’s the most relevant and talented as a whole probably since the 2010 series (Matt/Rebecca/1D/Cher).
I can’t really predict the winner either, not sure Rak-Su quite have it in the bag. I think Grace could win if she makes the Sunday as Roots if she does it is the strongest original song of the series. But if the rumoured duet for Kevin happens then I think he’ll push Grace out on the Saturday leaving Rak-Su the ultimate advantage of an original winners single whereas Kevin will probably have a cover.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Nov 28 2017, 10:31 PM
Saara Alto did really well to get 2nd, but she should have won over Matt Terry really. He had no personality around him and only an ok voice.
Posted by: PeteFromLeeds Nov 29 2017, 07:05 PM
Rak-Su to win so I can get my hands on a debut single now (and they've got the best chance of an official #1) (provided they're not forced to perform a ballad as the winner's single 
)
All three deserve to be there though, I'd be here for a shock Kevin win.
Posted by: jase. Nov 29 2017, 11:10 PM
https://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/the-x-factor/341940-x-factor-2017-someone-just-bet-5000-rak-su-winning.html
Whoa. That person is gonna have some serious anxiety when Dermot is all "and the winner IS........"
Posted by: jase. Nov 30 2017, 12:29 AM
Tellymix poll to win -
Rat-Su 38.5% (822 votes)
Grace Davies 32.51% (694 votes)
Kevin Davy White 28.99% (619 votes)
EDIT (30/11) -
Rat-Su 39.62% (929 votes)
Grace Davies 31.47% (738 votes)
Kevin Davy White 28.91% (678 votes)
Posted by: Ryan. Nov 30 2017, 10:05 PM
I can’t really predict the winner either, not sure Rak-Su quite have it in the bag. I think Grace could win if she makes the Sunday as Roots if she does it is the strongest original song of the series. But if the rumoured duet for Kevin happens then I think he’ll push Grace out on the Saturday leaving Rak-Su the ultimate advantage of an original winners single whereas Kevin will probably have a cover.
This is actually probably exactly what they will want to happen. They've probably encouraged Grace to perform Roots as her Sunday winner's single, but will aim to have her out on the Saturday. They will achieve this by getting Kevin to duet with Nicole who will ensure progression through to Sunday, presumably at the expense of Grace who will have saved her ultimate weapon for the Sunday. Therefore Rak-Su won't be up against Roots and will secure the win unless Kevin can pick up lots of casual votes in this one-on-one vote.
If that fails and Grace does win with Roots then they will know they've got a successful single on their hands even if it wasn't their Plan A.
I really think the outcome of this final significantly hinges on whether Kevin performs with Nicole or not.
Posted by: Jonjo Nov 30 2017, 10:15 PM
Roots is really bland though... I genuinely don't get the mass hysteria behind it. Pretty much every other one of her originals have been superior.
Posted by: D0bz Nov 30 2017, 10:54 PM
Yeah I agree! That was her worst original (well, maybe after her judges houses one), audition was such a bore. The ones she did on the first week of the Lives & the one just gone were her best imo.
Posted by: Cameron Nov 30 2017, 10:58 PM
This year they should have taken the Popstars approach and released originals from all 3 finalists and let the chart battle decide
Posted by: jase. Nov 30 2017, 11:07 PM
God I want Kevin to win SO much.
Rat-Su and Grace are gonna be signed either way.
Posted by: BiLLYx Dec 1 2017, 12:53 AM
I'm not sure why people think Nicole duetting with Kevin will get him through - her past duets have also been shoe ins for the finale anyway.
Posted by: Ryan. Dec 1 2017, 07:51 AM
Matt went into the final on the back of a sing-off, I think without the Nicole duet he’d have been out on the Saturday. Kevin and Nicole would just suit each other perfectly anyway!
Posted by: jase. Dec 1 2017, 10:35 AM
Saturday's performances -
Grace is performing "Roots" + "Live and Let Die"
Kevin is performing "Whole Lotta Love" and "Fastlove, Pt 1"
Rat-Su are performing "Mamacita" + "Dimelo"
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 1 2017, 12:07 PM
Kevin won’t be going then... bye Grace
Posted by: jase. Dec 1 2017, 12:15 PM
Live and Let Die is a very random song choice 
Posted by: jase. Dec 1 2017, 12:18 PM
Simon on This Morning admitting that he's struggled to sign any big names
Posted by: jase. Dec 1 2017, 12:31 PM
Apparently Roots, Fastlove and Mamacita are reserved for the final and they will only do a new song and a duet tomorrow.
It's really all down to the duets this year.
I have a feeling Kevin could win if he gets to Sunday and performs Fastlove.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 1 2017, 12:48 PM
I’m going to put £5 on Kevin. He’s 9/1. There’s no way he’d not win if he gets through and performs Fast Love.
Posted by: jase. Dec 1 2017, 01:05 PM
From another forum -
Posted by: RobBob Dec 1 2017, 02:53 PM
Becky Hill is opening the show on Saturday apparently, interesting that someone from The Voice has got herself some kind of slot.
Posted by: Jack Dec 1 2017, 03:19 PM
Good on Becky Hill! I love her voice, she deserves appreciation.
Even if this show is complete trash now and full of talentless nobodies.
Posted by: dancember Dec 1 2017, 03:31 PM
Becky will be with Pete Tong and the Heritage Orchestra to promote their album presumably? Good for them.
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 1 2017, 03:42 PM
Also:
Steve Brookstein - (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher & Higher
Leon Jackson - Better the Devil You Know
Joe McElderry - Don't Stop Believin'
Matt Cardle - Firework
James Arthur - Feeling Good
Sam Bailey - The Edge of Glory
Ben Haenow - Man In the Mirror
Although some of those might be mid tempo, they're certainly not the dull, dreary sort of ballads that that poster is probably comparing them to. Lol.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 1 2017, 03:52 PM
Also, pretty much all those instances had the obvious winners anyway so uptempo or ballad it wasn't gonna make a difference. At the time I did fear R&B could snatch it, Saara I thought could win (but I don't thonk it was really singing uptempo that damaged her, it was probably the more casual voters coming in for the final and preferring the bland traditonally X Factor attractive male with a nice voice) and I had blind hope for Fleur I suppose but for the others it was obvious that who won would win, as much as Saara, Fleur and Olly should have won.
I really can't see past Rak-Su storming this but I would love to be wrong, they'll get their wrung out one hit wonder anyway.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 1 2017, 03:53 PM
Steve Brookstein - (Your Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher & Higher
Leon Jackson - Better the Devil You Know
Joe McElderry - Don't Stop Believin'
Matt Cardle - Firework
James Arthur - Feeling Good
Those all sound terrible, especially Matt Cardle!
Posted by: RobBob Dec 1 2017, 04:15 PM
Yup, performing Sing It Back!
Posted by: jase. Dec 1 2017, 08:28 PM
People are also saying Rat-Su may not do well in a flash vote. Here's hoping!
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 1 2017, 11:03 PM
I'm guessing the winners track hasn't been announced yet, all 3 must have recorded it. I'm assuming we all have to wait till Sunday for the reveal.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 1 2017, 11:08 PM
So a cover ://
Flash votes didn't stop them winning before...
Posted by: jase. Dec 1 2017, 11:20 PM
I thought they were referencing flash votes but no.
From the same forum -
That’s what I think too, if hey win Saturday night I’m certain they’ll fall back like Saara did.
Yup, they have only won flash votes they haven't won long votes
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 02:49 AM
Yah and people on Buzzjack thought it would be an all girl finale when they were nearly the first category to be wiped out!!
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 02:20 PM
Tokio Myers is doing one of the duets - I assume that'll be with Kevin?
Posted by: D0bz Dec 2 2017, 02:21 PM
Well that could be quite spectacular if so!
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 02:36 PM
He tweeted it and then deleted it So yeah, definitely happening.
Posted by: dancember Dec 2 2017, 02:40 PM
If it's Tokio Myers then I presume the song will be 'Bloodstream', which would suit Kevin more than anything, and I presume Nicole will be on stage with him too seeing as Tokio does not sing.
Posted by: Sabrina. Dec 2 2017, 03:39 PM
Fingers crossed for Rak-Su, but I do think it'll all be down to performance on the night.
Any idea on who the guest performers are tonight? Looking forward to Little Mix & CNCO
Posted by: Mistletheo Dec 2 2017, 04:15 PM
Please can guests and song choices go in the spoiler thread? It's not that difficult...
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 05:04 PM
Christ almighty 
EDIT: I'm thinking Tokio can get Kevin to Sunday at least! Which is where he'll perform Fastlove..
I think he could do this!
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 05:05 PM
Tonight's show starts at 7:05pm, in case some people decide to switch the TV around 8pm
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 05:24 PM
Kevin has THE best performance of the series, so better for him to win than teenage girl-driven Rak Su
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 05:32 PM
Omfg listening to Roots again and WOW!!! 
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 05:38 PM
It's a shame we'll only get to hear Roots if Grace gets through tonight's show
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 05:39 PM
And with the teenage girl vote and Kevin's duets and cheap Nicole feature, I doubt it
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 05:40 PM
Little Mix are performing tomorrow! I think P!nk and Sam are too.
I assume it'll just be PRETTYMUCH tonight.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 05:51 PM
PrettyMuch and Becky Hill
Wow
Posted by: George.keh Dec 2 2017, 06:03 PM
Wow
And Louis Tomlinson
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 06:34 PM
Now rumours that Tokio is performing with a non-contestant, so maybe Becky or Louis?
Somebody isn't happy about their X-Factor duet, which means either Grace or Kevin because the producers really want the others to win -
https://twitter.com/TheJamesIngham/status/937021731180605442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thisisbigbrother.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D331574
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 06:50 PM
https://www.ok.co.uk/tv/the-x-factor/1245430/the-x-factor-kevin-davy-white-hints-nicole-scherzinger-duet-sing-final-who-won-winner-grace-rak-su
Kev hinting he has Nicole!
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 07:00 PM
Oop, must have given Grace someone bad - wonder if they dress her as a Sesame Street char again!
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 07:03 PM
"duetting with some of the biggest names in pop"
lmao this voiceover woman is too much
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 07:06 PM
I'm watchin Strictly
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 07:07 PM
Can the app be downloaded on a conputer?? Me phone has ne space
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:14 PM
Watch Grace get Becky Hill
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:16 PM
Voting open already? Wtf
Posted by: George.keh Dec 2 2017, 07:18 PM
Grace w Paloma Faith
Rak-Su w Wyclef Jean (!)
Kevin w Tokio
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 07:19 PM
Pete Tong and his Orchestra should win tonight. 
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 07:20 PM
Voting has always been open from the start in the finals hasn't it? They get more money this way.
No surprise at Rak-Su being last. I assume to benefit from the voting being open longer for those conspiracy theorists among us... 
Grace sounding really good on 'You've Git the Love' tbh.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:21 PM
Rak-Su w Wyclef Jean (!)
Kevin w Tokio
Kevin w Tokio = Big performance
Grace w Paloma = wtf?
Rak-Su w Wyclef = predictable ‘bop’, good slot = obvious wine r
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 07:21 PM
Rak-Su w Wyclef Jean (!)
Kevin w Tokio
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 07:21 PM
So now I'm reading the duets are the winners singles. RakSu and Wyclef Jean, Grace and Paloma Faith, Kevin and Tokio Myers
Posted by: Esmerelda Dec 2 2017, 07:22 PM
I'm guessing that Nicole won't be imploring the UK to "vote for their own" this year like she did at last year's final...
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:28 PM
Kevin 05.0
His worst performance yet I think!
Posted by: Davidson Dec 2 2017, 07:28 PM
5 app votes to Kevin already.
He's phenomenal, leagues ahead of everyone else.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 07:29 PM
God Kevin is f***ing amazing. 9/10
SO excited to see his collab with Tokio. It could be something really special.
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 07:29 PM
I liked Kevin's performance but he should sing current songs. 
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 07:30 PM
01. Kevin - Whole Lotta Love
He has a great voice etc.. but I dunno, it kinda felt a bit weak? Like, it wasn't bad or mediocre, it was just very... ehhh. He's done farrrr better/more polished and fulfilling performances.
06.5 out of 10
Maybe its juts me atm feeling really tired and feeling like I can't be bothered about this final haha.
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 07:33 PM
I'm on the same level as Jonjo, I was split 50/50 over it. Had better performances
Posted by: Davidson Dec 2 2017, 07:44 PM
That was painful. I feel like Grace is coming 3rd unless her duet saves her; she definitely should do after that anyway.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 07:46 PM
That didn't work at ALL :/
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:46 PM
They’re sabotaging her
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 07:47 PM
I didn't like this odd song choice, I hope she's not in the final night.
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 07:49 PM
I just felt Grace's performance was a bit underwhelming, that track has been covered so many times on the X Factor, totally wrong song choice for her.
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 07:51 PM
These intros are just too long 
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 07:51 PM
I felt exactly the same about that performance as I did with Kevin's.
So yeah. I'm tuning out now lol. Mehhhhhhh.
I shall watch tomorrow. For Little Mix and P!nk obvz 😂😂
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:53 PM
Rak-Su for shock third place plz
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 07:53 PM
This Mamacita song makes me depressed. Simply awful.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 07:54 PM
Ew I don't like any of those tomorrow!!
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 07:55 PM
I was expecting something different from them tonight, their tracks all sound too samey, listening to that week on week it can be quite annoying, again another underwhelming performance.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:56 PM
Do something different ffs
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 07:57 PM
For me:
Kevin 7.0
Grace 4.0
Rak-Su 3.0
Forgettable show so far.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 07:59 PM
I hear Havana in Mamacita
Grace 08.0
Kevin 05.0
Rak-Su 00.0
Posted by: BrookeOlivia Dec 2 2017, 08:00 PM
I'm 100% here for the Grace and Paloma Duet. 
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:01 PM
Even got Dermot trying to manipulate it for them - only reason Grace didn't do originals every live show is because she has done it from the start!!
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:04 PM
PrettyCheap now. 
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 08:04 PM
Is it me that Simon, just didn't know the title of the track
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:04 PM
Pretty Much are shit
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:04 PM
What is happening, is this like an interval tv show or something??
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:05 PM
oh CHRIST this band are atrocious 
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:05 PM
Wait is this still X Faccy??
Who are these - X Faccy junior winners? Why is the audience asleep?
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:06 PM
Where's Joseph? I think he liked that #longhairdon'tcare boy.
EDIT: Oh dear, Mamacita in the lyrics too. 
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 08:06 PM
PRETTYCRAP
Posted by: Sabrina. Dec 2 2017, 08:06 PM
If anyone wants evidence of how far The X Factor has fallen.. this is it!
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:06 PM
!!!!!
Auto tune galore
Posted by: Sabrina. Dec 2 2017, 08:07 PM
The crowd
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 08:09 PM
I don't know what the audience were watching but that was PRETTYAWFUL
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 08:09 PM
So I decided to stay tuned (and not take it so seriously) but...
I actually low key loved that PRETTYMUCH song 
Posted by: Sabrina. Dec 2 2017, 08:11 PM
I actually low key loved that PRETTYMUCH song
Yeah I'm not going to lie.. It was a little catchy
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:12 PM
My 5 app votes went to Kevin of course. 
Posted by: Davidson Dec 2 2017, 08:13 PM
Wait??? So the duet will be their winner's single? Did I hear wrong?
So they don't even get their own winner's single anymore ?
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:15 PM
The sleeping audience though
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:17 PM
Featuring Nicole or only Tokio? 
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:18 PM
Absolute fix
They want Grace out
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:19 PM
#fixfactor
Posted by: Davidson Dec 2 2017, 08:20 PM
Not a fan of Kevin's cover of 'Fast Love' though, it's one of my least favourites of his this series so I'm upset this would his winner's single.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:21 PM
Expected more having Tokio by his side
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:21 PM
Oops, he ruined it, his first time was much better
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:21 PM
CHILLS
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:22 PM
It was a ‘moment’ when he first did it, but this time it was boring af. This should get him through to tomorrow though.
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:23 PM
I liked much more the first time, but even so, it was good.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:25 PM
Gonna ring and vote after that!
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:25 PM
Roots!!!!
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:26 PM
Paloma's gonna ruin Roots then
Posted by: dandy* Dec 2 2017, 08:26 PM
Can imagine Paloma not suiting Roots at all but we'll see...
(this has all been so boring so far btw)
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:28 PM
OMGG ROOTS WITH PALOMA!!!!
CHILLS
Posted by: Davidson Dec 2 2017, 08:29 PM
Their voices don't even match at all.
Posted by: Sabrina. Dec 2 2017, 08:29 PM
Paloma does not suit this at all
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:29 PM
wtf is paloma even singing
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:30 PM
They don't like
Hopefully she releases the solo version!
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:30 PM
CHILLS
rly?
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:30 PM
Oh that was great!
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:31 PM
Grace with crocodile tears to put her into the final night.
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 08:31 PM
That was stunning. That song had so much more power once you could hear the backing more.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:31 PM
Yup CHILLS!!!
Posted by: dandy* Dec 2 2017, 08:32 PM
Roots is a good song, that would definitely be a hit although I'd rather have a version without Paloma
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:33 PM
their voices didn't mesh AT ALL I'm still legit laughing after that and it's a shame because I adore Roots
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:33 PM
THIS!!
Paloma made it worse mind
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:33 PM
DUETS
11.0 Grace Davies & Paloma Faith
03.0 Kevin Davy White & Tokio Myers
Posted by: Sabrina. Dec 2 2017, 08:34 PM
Probably better for her not to win after that tbh. She'll be able to release a Paloma-less version
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 08:35 PM
I quite like Roots it works better with a solo artist though, I don't think Paloma added anything much to it.
As for Kevin's, it was alright but it didn't click with me, as Roots did.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:35 PM
"who the f*** booked paloma faith? she ruined my song 
"
Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 2 2017, 08:35 PM
Grace and Paloma was a hugely special moment, given me goosebumps they sounded great and had such brilliant chemistry! She simply MUST win after that
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:35 PM
Duets
Paloma Grace 15/10
Kevin 03/10 - his original was 11/10 too ://
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:36 PM
OMG THISSSS! Kevin was so boring tonight.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:37 PM
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:38 PM
They get 2?!
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:38 PM
Can you please stop. You’re insufferable in this thread.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:38 PM
Why do they get 2??
#fixfactoe
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:39 PM
FIX
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:39 PM
You're literally insufferable in every single thread I see you in with that constant negative attitude you have but HEY
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:40 PM
This will be their winners single? Ugh
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:40 PM
This is AWFUL
#fixfactor
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:41 PM
Negative attitude?
Delete your account.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:41 PM
Wow this is revolting!
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:41 PM
Omg when did he go bald??
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:41 PM
Poor Shakira
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 08:42 PM
WAIT!
NAUGHTY BOY HAS A SONG WITH ELLA EYRE!?!?!?
Oh. Rak-Su performing 2 songs that they've already performed before on the show? How original of them 🙃
Think imma give Grace my 5 votes tbh. Although I feel like Dimelo might actually become a guilty pleasure 🙃
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:42 PM
Delete your account.
You're CONSTANTLY negative so let's not pretend you're anything but
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:42 PM
Who are all these people?? Fix.
Omg at all the girls screamin
Posted by: dandy* Dec 2 2017, 08:44 PM
I've given my votes to Grace. I think she is simply the most talented out of the lot, I'd definitely consider getting an album by her based upon the songs she's written so far.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 2 2017, 08:44 PM
That was their worst original and a terrible performance, they REALLY want them to win though lmao
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:44 PM
DUETS
11.0 Grace x Paloma
03.5 Rak-Su x 1038 others
03.0 Kevin x Tokio
The clear manipulation for Rak-Su is UNREAL, but at least it will get The X Factor another huge hit winners single.
Kevin was worst of the night by a mile, but I can see the order going...
01 Rak-Su
02 Kevin
03 Grace
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:44 PM
It's EMBARRASSING how much the producers want them to win
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:45 PM
Kevin was clearly the best, Grace was alright but Roots was totally ruined, and Rat-Su were their normal atrocious selves :/
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:47 PM
Imagine if Rat-Su came 3rd. I'd CRY.
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:47 PM
Duets
Grace 7.0
Kevin 6.0
Rak-Su 5.0
Even so, I still want Kevin going through though. 
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:48 PM
The bookies are pretty much confirming Kevin as 3rd he is 1/5 leave next
Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 2 2017, 08:48 PM
Can a few of us take a chill pill please?? Let's respect each other's opinions!
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:49 PM
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 08:50 PM
Rak-Su were terrible tonight, I'm really surprised Wyclef Jean offered his services to Rak-Su 
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 08:50 PM
I hope Kevin goes, then hopefully the order tomorrow is Rak-Su / Grace
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:51 PM
09020505101
I'm gonna throw a couple of more votes at him
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:51 PM
God I REALLY want Rat-Su to go!!
Posted by: Martyn Dec 2 2017, 08:52 PM
X Factor really is a joke this year.
I remember when the final the thread would probably get 40 pages.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:53 PM
THIS!!
15.0 Grace x Paloma
02.5 Rak-Su x 1038 others
03.0 Kevin x Tokio
Sooo Nicole, should Britain 'vote for their own' tonight, I wonder, like last year?
Hate that woman. What she did to Saara Alto last year was racist af and totally uncalled for and unfair.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 08:53 PM
Me too!!
Kevin and Grace would be a finale to be proud of - ironically, given it has been the worst season maybe ever!
Posted by: TS0301 Dec 2 2017, 08:55 PM
Idk who Louis wants to be, all of his songs sound totally different 😂
Also kevin to leave tonight pls
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:55 PM
Wtf is Louis wearing
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:56 PM
Oh dear @ this song :/
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 08:58 PM
Louis' song is not bad at all.
Posted by: Bjork Dec 2 2017, 08:58 PM
this sounds like a Busted b-side and his vocals are enrique iglesias-level
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 08:58 PM
Simon FUMING that Louis is supporting Kev over Rat-Su
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 08:58 PM
This is so 00's indie pop punk..
Is he literally recording anything and seeing what sticks?
He's so awful and weak as a vocalist... it really baffles me as to how he is as popular as he is due to 1D.
Need to listen to the studio version, but I think I'd like it!
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 09:00 PM
and his vocals are enrique iglesias-levelThere's nothing wrong with Busted and Enrique Iglesias imo.
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 2 2017, 09:00 PM
THAT VIGINETTE THING. *.*
Basically a promo for Little Queens. I'm here for it!!
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 09:01 PM
He'd have been well-instructed pre-show to support Rak Su too!
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:02 PM
Because THAT wasn't predictable at all
Posted by: Hadji Dec 2 2017, 09:04 PM
I want Grace to come 2nd and Rak-Su to win
Posted by: Bjork Dec 2 2017, 09:04 PM
oh really wanted rak-su gone, they're so bad
can't believe the awful Dimelo is gonna be their winner singer
it's like written by a 4-year old
hope Grace wins
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 09:05 PM
Byyyyeeeee Kevin
I can see a Grace win tbh.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 09:05 PM
Maybe Grace is more popular than we all thought then...
Posted by: Jason Dec 2 2017, 09:06 PM
Watching tomorrow's night just to see Little Mix, P!nk and Sam Smith.
I really don't care who wins, but Rat-Poo have it in the bag now.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:13 PM
Yeah I'm not gonna bother watching tomorrow. If Rat-Su win over Grace I'll be absolutely fuming so I'm not gonna put myself through it
Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 2 2017, 09:13 PM
Kevin had to go, he was so much worse than Grace or Rak-Su tonight.
I definitely want Grace to win but I like Rak-Su too, I'm just glad that we'll have a great winner either way! 
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:15 PM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5052484/the-x-factor-viewers-accuse-rak-su-of-being-given-an-unfair-advantage-as-they-get-to-duet-with-two-stars/
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:16 PM
Ugh Kevin beating the talentless Rat-Su would have been iconic
Like Fleur beating Andrea and Saara being 5am
Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 2 2017, 09:17 PM
What a tragic article :') it's not the first instance of having two duet stars - Reggie n Bollie collaborating with Fuse ODG and Craig David springs to mind, nobody seemed to care then.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:20 PM
Nah it's a fix and they need to be axed :')
Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 2 2017, 09:22 PM
I mean Naughty Boy literally seemed to stand there and compose a few emails
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:23 PM
Yeah why was he so sweaty? He didn't move
Posted by: Feel_The_Fever Dec 2 2017, 09:24 PM
Really want Grace to win.
Posted by: BrookeOlivia Dec 2 2017, 09:24 PM
My 5 votes are going for Grace.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:26 PM
Voted for Grace but she ain't gonna win is she
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 09:28 PM
The overnight should benefit Grace! It’s definitely all to play for.
It’s like when Saara won Saturday (like Rak-Su probably have), then Matt overtook overnight.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 09:29 PM
Plus I’d say that the Kevin voters will cross over to Grace
Posted by: BrookeOlivia Dec 2 2017, 09:30 PM
Never know she could, She is singing two original songs tomorrow I think. (Sharon said on loose women earlier in week she be doing 3 originals in final and 1 cover) She could sneak in at moment looks like she doesn't have chance but never say never.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 09:32 PM
What are Rak-Su singing?
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 09:32 PM
I thought Grace would have performed "Roots" on the Sunday - with a huge choir and everything It would have been such a moment.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 2 2017, 09:33 PM
As shite as they are it's not like Naughty Boy added anything extra to give them advantage
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 09:34 PM
So are Paloma etc... performing again tomorrow?
Posted by: BrookeOlivia Dec 2 2017, 09:34 PM
Haven't a clue, I just remember seeing about sharon confirming Grace will be doing 3 originals and 1 cover during the final so am guessing she will be doing two originals tomorrow unless somethings changed.
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 2 2017, 09:35 PM
I hope Grace wins tomorrow, I preferred her Roots performance over Live and Let Die, I didn't really think Kevin's performances were good enough tonight, and Rak-Su tracks they all sound the same to me, but deep down I think Rak-Su seem to be the likely winners.
Posted by: D0bz Dec 2 2017, 09:41 PM
Ah shame Kevin left but it was to be expected. I agree his solo version of Fastlove was incredible & definitely one of my faves this year but I liked the Tokio collab too. Whole Lotta Love was just the token final opener song.
Liked both of Grace's performances too, not all that keen on Roots as a song but it worked well as a perf.
As for Rak-Su I'm not fussed on Mamacita but Dimelo is actually an absolute tune, so glad that will be THE X-Factor winner's single of 2017!
Posted by: PAJ88 Dec 2 2017, 09:46 PM
Is Roots up on iTunes to buy?
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 10:03 PM
No, only if Shen wins
Posted by: PAJ88 Dec 2 2017, 10:07 PM
Thanks, fingers crossed she wins!
Posted by: Ryan. Dec 2 2017, 10:16 PM
Interesting show, wasn't expecting the duets being the winner's singles twist!
I would've preferred a solo version of Roots but I think what happened tonight would've got Grace more votes than if she'd done it solo, the tears moment at the end was a massive vote winner I'd imagine. I thought Live and Let Die worked really well actually, allowed Grace to show the strength of her voice (she's more Diana than she is Janet/Abi Alton etc in terms of quirky singers) and meant Simon could get in the strong singer comment. That could mean the Kevin votes will transfer to Grace for the strong singer reason.
I could still see Grace snatching it, all depends on the song choices. If we get reprises of Too Young and Hesitate/Wolves for example versus Rak-Su reprises of Mona Lisa/I'm Feeling You then I think the former will appeal to that final-watching audience. It's definitely closer than the odds would suggest anyway.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 2 2017, 10:20 PM
Yeah that's true, they've done their crowd pleasers although they all sound the same anyway so nobody will know the difference lmao
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 2 2017, 10:30 PM
Yeah, if Grace did Wolves —> Too Young —> Roots Duet then I reckon she’ll win it?
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 10:56 PM
Omg at Cowell lookin like he'd been SLAPPED when Louis said he wantrd Kevin to win!!
Be some screamin backstge toneet - I TOLD you who to say!!
Well I guess the TWO most successful acts ever from X Faccy have been groups.
Posted by: MerryFlynnmas Dec 2 2017, 10:57 PM
Grace's duet with Paloma was insanely good literal chills from it I want her to win now.
Rak-Su *sigh* I wanna like them but I find it a bit eh they performed two originals that we know already. At least with Grace we have only heard Roots in the Audition and that's it.
Kevin was disappointing imo.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 11:00 PM
Lmao when even the Sun turns on Simon and X Faccy, you can tell it has been the most manipulated series/ final YET
#fixfactor
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 11:00 PM
Omg he was so sweaty tho!!
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 11:10 PM
#fixfactor
the whole show needs to be axed tbh. its become a disgrace/embarrassment
Posted by: MerryFlynnmas Dec 2 2017, 11:11 PM
It's not really unfair disadvantage tho its not like Naughty Boy did anything in the same way Wyclef Jean did He just played the Piano.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 11:15 PM
THIS!!!
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 2 2017, 11:17 PM
They got two acts and then a BUNCH of random Justin Beiber dancers on stage - PLUS I honestly think their harmonies were touched up - either a backing track, digital trickery, or back up singer reliance.
It is obviously veery clearly manipulated for them.
Posted by: MerryFlynnmas Dec 2 2017, 11:24 PM
It is obviously veery clearly manipulated for them.
I don't get the amount of dancers Ill agree there but apart from that they didn't sound much different imo.
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 11:37 PM
It is obviously veery clearly manipulated for them.
I mean, even the running order...the fact they were on 3rd/last and Kevin went on FIRST. A damn mess
Posted by: Liаm Dec 2 2017, 11:46 PM
It is pretty transparent there are GAGGING for Rak-Su to win, and that puts me off them even more They're also just ot that talented, but their songs are catchy enough. Like I've said already, they feel like they'd have 2 hits in 2011 rather than winning X Factor in 2017. Idg why the producers are SO moist for them and are so desperate for them to win Like I bet they scrambled for another songwriting prize when RakSu did't win the first one. I mean I guess it's the money signs because Rak-Su have been selling on iTunes, but there's a difference between taking off because 5 million are watching and having actual hits later.
This has been pretty much the most obvious series ever, I thought from the start Rak-Su or Grace would win. Kevin came as a bit of a surprise but after Smooth he was obviously a contender. I guess Cutkelvins lasted a bit longer than I thought but other than that I could pretty much call how thing went. I'm not expecting it to be anthng different tomorrow so Rak-Su will win. Yet again an interesting female act with artistry loses out to the generic male option (Rebecca, Saara, Fleur).
Posted by: jase. Dec 2 2017, 11:48 PM
I mean...when Rat-Su had finished performing and Louis was standing with his arm around Sharon, looking like they were in awe. It's like...you ain't just watched Bey and Alex finish 'Listen'. Serious second-hand embarrassment
Just a dreadful, dreadful series. Outside of Grace and Kevin, the talent has been pretty dire. The changes to the format (getting rid of deadlock/getting rid of more than one contestant/the whole contestants getting prizes THING) have been brutal, and its just been a bit all over the place - bootcamp felt like it went on for MONTHS.
I'll always watch it because I love music but they really need to give the show a rest for a few years imo.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 2 2017, 11:50 PM
Just a dreadful, dreadful series. Outside of Grace and Kevin, the talent has been pretty dire. The changes to the format (getting rid of deadlock/getting rid of more than one contestant/the whole contestants getting prizes THING) have been brutal, and its just been a bit all over the place - bootcamp felt like it went on for MONTHS.
I'll always watch it because I love music but they really need to give the show a rest for a few years imo.
Yeah right that's what gets me too
Like fair enough enjoy it, but they go on like they've just seen Whitney perform at her peak when it's just a bunch of ladz rapping a song most people could perform.Agree about the series as a whole though, but I don't think it was necessarily the talent as I enjoyed Lloyd, Holly, Rai-Elle, Cutkelvins, Talia and Tracey, it was just the format really killing it for me. Like Talia was ousted on one awful song choice because they rushed it so much, and then for others like Rai-Elle or Lloyd I feel they could have built up momentum to challenge for the win in a normal series (a la Saara) but it wasn't long enough for them to do that. Everything abut the format was just wrong imo, it's a nice idea having Saturday and Sunday filled with something to watch but when it's done so awfully it doesn't matter a jot. I much preferred the intensity of the results being the next day with the drama of the sing off. It kind of felt like the Voice to me, rushed with not a lot of chance to really care about anyone which is probably why the obvious top 2 have sailed through the whole time.
I did like the focus on original songs though even if Rak-Su's all sound the same
That sets it apart from say The Voice which feels like a karaoke competition, but realistically the F contestants barely have much more chance at getting a hit than The Voice winner does :')
Posted by: Esmerelda Dec 2 2017, 11:54 PM
Rak-Su's backing track will no doubt be at maximum volume tomorrow, complete with 500 dancers, celebrity endorsements and a close up of Simon crying euphoric tears.
They will be dusting off the Big Bird costume for Grace again. I expect she will still win though-really don't think the "older generation" vote that is out in force on final night will be going for Rak-Su no matter how much Simon wants it. They only won the prize fight once despite maximum hype and closing the show every week after all.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 2 2017, 11:59 PM
They will be dusting off the Big Bird costume for Grace again. I expect she will still win though-really don't think the "older generation" vote that is out in force on final night will be going for Rak-Su no matter how much Simon wants it. They only won the prize fight once despite maximum hype and closing the show every week after all.
I'm not sure there's many of that demographic left watching tbf
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 12:25 AM
They will be dusting off the Big Bird costume for Grace again. I expect she will still win though-really don't think the "older generation" vote that is out in force on final night will be going for Rak-Su no matter how much Simon wants it. They only won the prize fight once despite maximum hype and closing the show every week after all.
But they're all watching Strictly!
I BET that Big Bird costume comes back. It has been SO manipulated from the start and a veery obvipus show like Liam said.
The talent was awful - Rae Elle shouldn't have got past the first audition at best.
The format was rushed, dramaless and AWFUL, as were the judgs. They were empty, vacuous, heaping praise on EEEVERYTHING, and yup acting like every other performance was Alex and Beyoncr. Just... no.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 12:42 AM
Nicole and Louis have been unbearable this series.
Louis is so full of shit, like he says every thing is going to be a hit.. when quite frankly it probably wouldn’t even touch the top 100
I did like Nicole a lot until this year. Is she really back again next year?
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 12:44 AM
No, Cheryl is for 2 million.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 12:44 AM
Thank god
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 01:29 AM
It seemed like Nicole really culdn't be arsed this year just like most of the viewers Louis has always been an annoying parody of himself, you can tell what he's going to say before he says it. Actually all the judges have been a bit disappointing this year and that goes with the fall in the format for me, as said they just seem to like everything even Simon who'd normally be savage. That's part of the fun for me, when someone is shite and Simon comes up with awful ways to slate them. It just reminds me of the Voice again where they're all OTT positive and constructive, barely daring to say when someone was bad. At best this year we've got really feeble comments like "that wasn't your best" "the song choice was wrong", and like I said for me the judges comments and how far they went with it being bad was part of the fun for me. I know it's light Saturday entertainment, but so is Strictly and the judges will say when someone goes wrong, you have Craig being scathing for example. The judges actually felt redundant this series at many points, with the top 2 writing their own songs mostly anyway, and the fact they don't get to vote on sing-offs, pretty much giving the same generic comments all series only adds to that.
I know there was always moaning hat they had TOO much input and we didn't decide who goes home, but I'd so gladly take that and the drama it brings over the limp format we have this series.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 02:08 AM
Louis has always been an annoying parody of himself, you can tell what he's going to say before he says it. Actually all the judges have been a bit disappointing this year and that goes with the fall in the format for me, as said they just seem to like everything even Simon who'd normally be savage. That's part of the fun for me, when someone is shite and Simon comes up with awful ways to slate them. It just reminds me of the Voice again where they're all OTT positive and constructive, barely daring to say when someone was bad. At best this year we've got really feeble comments like "that wasn't your best" "the song choice was wrong", and like I said for me the judges comments and how far they went with it being bad was part of the fun for me. I know it's light Saturday entertainment, but so is Strictly and the judges will say when someone goes wrong, you have Craig being scathing for example. The judges actually felt redundant this series at many points, with the top 2 writing their own songs mostly anyway, and the fact they don't get to vote on sing-offs, pretty much giving the same generic comments all series only adds to that.I know there was always moaning hat they had TOO much input and we didn't decide who goes home, but I'd so gladly take that and the drama it brings over the limp format we have this series.
PREACH!!
They felt completely redundant, with vacuous comments and not much else to them :/ If everything is great, then what are they even 'judging'? And if they're not voting, then what are they doing? Producers choose the songs, etc. It just felt like they were there to inteoduce the acts and praise them and talk t them for 5 minues during the week. Dermot could do all that!
Posted by: Slade Dec 3 2017, 03:21 PM
All caught up now and it's a shame that Kevin is out as I think he's really talented, but this wasn't his strongest night, as much as I really like Tokio as well rooting for Rak-Su out of this top 2 as their 'Dimelo' performance was my highlight of the night *.*
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 03:45 PM
Jesus wept, an average of 4.44 million viewers watched this final Strictly got a peak of 10.5 million and average of 9.7 million.
Posted by: BrookeOlivia Dec 3 2017, 03:48 PM
That is AWFUL, I expect they will get more tonight though. Remember the days x factor used to get over 10 million watching the final.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 03:50 PM
It's still clashing with Strictly, so ofc being the actual final compared to just results of Strictly it'll get more but I expect Strictly to just batter it again
Posted by: BrookeOlivia Dec 3 2017, 03:53 PM
Course Liam, That goes without saying! I mean x-factor will get more viewers than 4.4 million tonight. Given Little Mix etc are on.
Posted by: Crazy Christmas Dec 3 2017, 04:02 PM
Rak-Su will win tonight but I'd prefer Grace now that My fave Kavin has gone.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 04:11 PM
I rewatched the parts that would be ikonek if more people watched them
- yup, y'all were right, 2nd hand embarrassment at them gaping at Rak Su with arms around each oher. Umm they just did a rap backed up by studio backing vocals tuned ALLL THE WAY UP.
- Matt looking awkward and like he wanted nothinf more to do with the show
- Holly being bitter and jealous of Grace lol
- Luis Tomlinson's 'singing' and Cowell rebellion
- The BLATANT manipulation for Rak Su with two guests and a thousand backing dancers. Just utterly laughable!
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 07:44 PM
A banger from Grace *.*
Posted by: Jason Dec 3 2017, 07:48 PM
Little Mix always wearing the same sexy clothes. Just hope there's a big boost for Reggaeton Lento. I wish they had sung a new song, I'm so tired of Power now.
I think this Rak-Su song (Touche) is my fave of theirs, very good.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 07:48 PM
That was their worst original, SO basic and generic
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 07:49 PM
That was another good'un, even if it sounded identical to the backing track for Dimelo.
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 3 2017, 07:50 PM
Grace's song was good, but Rak-Su's, as basic as it's structure was, was better. That hook (although it makes no sense :')) is catchy af!! The catchiest and most melodic they've done yet.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 07:53 PM
It's ridiculous how desperate they are for Rak-Su to win They're hyping them up for writing their own songs as if Grace didn't just do the EXACT same thing just with actua lyrics that make sense.
I'm feeling like Grace maybe won last night or at least came close and they're worried.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 07:54 PM
We need to pull thru and vote grace
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 07:54 PM
That Rat-Su song was an abomination, obviously
Just tuned in. What was Grace like?
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 07:54 PM
But Grace had loads of backing dancers in her performance, fix!
Posted by: Ryan. Dec 3 2017, 07:55 PM
I think Grace is closer in the vote than they'd like, hence Simon making sure he got back on the microphone to plead for votes.
Posted by: Jason Dec 3 2017, 07:57 PM
YES! P!nk now.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 07:59 PM
P!nk never ages. Queen!
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:00 PM
This P!nk song is pretty catchy!
Posted by: Jason Dec 3 2017, 08:00 PM
Lovin' Beautiful Trauma even more now.
Oh! What About Us too.
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:00 PM
But this one is boring...
Posted by: Jack Dec 3 2017, 08:03 PM
This is a bit mediocre for Pink, it's good but nothing more. She's capable of better performances.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:05 PM
Dermot not asking P!nk who should win?
She must prefer Grace so Simon has silenced her!
Posted by: Jack Dec 3 2017, 08:07 PM
She must prefer Grace so Simon has silenced her!
She probably just doesn't watch this trash
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 3 2017, 08:08 PM
Yeah. Her UK promo is mediocre in comparison to other countries performances.
Why do we never get to see all the acrobatic/huge choregraphed routines? She literally just stands at the microphone all the time. This is why I feel she never gets the credit she deserves as a live performer in the UK... majority of the UK never get to see it!
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:11 PM
The show has 0 budget so couldn't afford that for pink
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 08:13 PM
The guy in the purple tracksuit tho
Idk his name
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:13 PM
I think Too Young was my least fave of Grace's originals from the lives but probably her best performance so probably the right choice to reprise.
Posted by: Envoirment Dec 3 2017, 08:14 PM
Why do we never get to see all the acrobatic/huge choregraphed routines?
She literally just stands at the microphone all the time. This is why I feel she never gets the credit she deserves as a live performer in the UK... majority of the UK never get to see it! I think it's more so due to most UK TV platforms being unable to accomodate her big performances really. The only shows that could possibly do that would be the BRIT awards and Britain's Got Talent I think.
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 3 2017, 08:16 PM
So this is "Performance of the series"? Haven't Rak-Su literally performed every song they've done on the show in this final? (Apart from the performance from today)
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:16 PM
That was a stunning performance, she HAS to win this
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:16 PM
(Apart from the performance from today)Yeah apart from I'm Feelin' You
I feel like Dimeo is their "actual" fave performance but they've obv used that for their single.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:16 PM
That was gorgeous!
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:19 PM
Simon making sure there are a bunch of Rak-Su signs behind Grace's family! Wow, fix!
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 3 2017, 08:20 PM
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:21 PM
TBf I think that's just where they're sat obviously everyone has their own signs lmao
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:22 PM
Mona Lisa 
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:22 PM
I'm being sarcastic but thanks for that info!!
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:22 PM
Haven't they performed this shit like 54 times now?
Posted by: Jason Dec 3 2017, 08:23 PM
Mamacita, Mona Lisa and I'm Feeling You are soooooooooooo annoying.
Dimelo and Touche are ok though.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:24 PM
This is just like poundland Swalla and they can't even the "ayyy ayyy ayyy" bits for god's sake
Posted by: Jonjo Dec 3 2017, 08:25 PM
Dimelo and Touche are ok though.
This studio is horrendous. Is literally looks like green screen lmao!
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:25 PM
Yes we know you've never liked Grace, Nicole
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:28 PM
I swear this has been about 10 x longer than Grace's as well lmao this is ridiculous
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:30 PM
I'd piss myself laughing if Grace won considering all they've done to assure a Rat-Su win
Posted by: Jason Dec 3 2017, 08:32 PM
Buzzjack's favourite Sam Smith in a few minutes.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:32 PM
I'm making my housemtes vote 5x Grace on the app on every device they have lmaooo, goals x
It would be the biggest shock since Andrea won the voice but I would LIVE
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 3 2017, 08:34 PM
I just think Grace stole the show tonight, her performance of Too Young was just amazing the lyrics just give a meaning. Where Rat-Sauce just spout out rubbish week on week.
What I've learned from this show, winners never do well, runners up usually do well chart wise, so in a way I just hope Grace doesn't win it. I'm in favour of Grace winning it though.
Personally I like to see both tracks released as singles, to see who fares better in the charts, as I would love for Grace to release Too Young as a single.
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:36 PM
the lyrics just give a meaning. Where Rat-Sauce just spout out rubbish week on week. What I've learned from this show, winners never do well, runners up usually do well chart wise, so in a way I just hope Grace doesn't win it.
Personally I like to see both tracks released as singles, to see who fares better in the charts, as I would love for Grace to release Too Young as a single.
This always used to be the case but since Little Mix the winners have always done better.
Posted by: MerryFlynnmas Dec 3 2017, 08:37 PM
I love Grace's songwiting so much
The problem I have with Rak-Su is their good and their songs are good but I'm not amazed by them like others are. Their songs are really simular imo. Not versatility like Grace can be.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:38 PM
lmao bookies basically confirming Grace hasn't won
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:38 PM
Well I'm in the minority but I like Sam
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:40 PM
Really like this Sam track, this is the Like I Can of this album.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 08:40 PM
Oh :/
How do Bookies know - are they cashing out?
Suh a manipulated show!! Fix Factor.
Why is it always the one with a reaaally sweaty forehead and vacant expression who gets the camera shoved in his face at the end??
Posted by: Jason Dec 3 2017, 08:42 PM
I like him too. This song is so much better than Too Good at Goodbyes.
Posted by: Ryan. Dec 3 2017, 08:42 PM
quick close the vote!!! someone just said they wanted grace to win!!! ah there we go
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 3 2017, 08:43 PM
In the end the runner up will still get a record contract at some point, for the past 2 years I predicted Louisa and Matt would win from the start of the series, fingers cross for Grace as I do favour Grace over Rat-Su.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:44 PM
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:45 PM
Yeah true, it'll prob be best for both acts if Rak-Su win though as Grace will have more autonomy and Rak-Su will likely be horribly mismanaged anyway. I expect they'll manage a slightly longer career than Matt Terry's is looking like at least.
Posted by: Rooney Dec 3 2017, 08:45 PM
The runners up doing better than the winners on X Factor is a bit of a myth I mean off the top of my head it happened twice - Olly Murs & JLS. Alexandra was pretty successful and unfortunately for Joe I don't think they knew what to do with him (oh and he already had to live with the embarrassment of losing the Xmas number 1!). One Direction came 3rd.
They haven't been able to produce a star on the show for a while, I don't know if they ever will to be fair. Both Grace and Rak-Su I can see having one decent hit and then fading away.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 08:46 PM
Crap, just when I cleared space, spent last 30 mins doing it, on phone and JUST downloaded the app, vote closes.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:48 PM
"he's got weeks/months to live"
like...at 16...how do you even begin to process that?
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 08:50 PM
Why does the voiceover man always pronounce it as Grace DavIS?
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:51 PM
f*** sake
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 08:51 PM
Grace robbed
Posted by: UltraReputation Dec 3 2017, 08:51 PM
FFS I thought they said Grace for a split second as well
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:51 PM
Posted by: dancember Dec 3 2017, 08:52 PM
yes Rak-Su 
The deserved winners of this year.
Posted by: Rudolph Dec 3 2017, 08:52 PM
Rat Crap
Posted by: mdh Dec 3 2017, 08:52 PM
no
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:53 PM
Dimelo Dimelo Dimelo!
I did like both finalists this year tho for the second series running! But Rak-Su edged it for me. Grace is more talented imo but I'm not as keen on her music.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:53 PM
Thank f*** this series is over with
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 08:53 PM
It's just ridiculous an act with such little talent can win a SINGING compeittion....
Posted by: Rooney Dec 3 2017, 08:53 PM
The live shows feel like such a non-event this year.
I feel they got it good getting acts to perform their original songs, but I think they need to expand on the live shows again and make them more fun.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 08:56 PM
Cant wait for percentages tonight.
Anyway, can see an announcement for Grace Davies getting a contract in a couple weeks.
Posted by: jase. Dec 3 2017, 08:56 PM
Nicole needs to go. This is the first year she's irritated the f*** out of me.
Louis can take his leave too. I'll never forget his "YOU ARE REAL HUMAN BEINGS!" critique. Just atrocious.
All sorts need to be done to save the show but I'd be here forever
Posted by: D0bz Dec 3 2017, 08:57 PM
I actually liked the format of this series. Much better having full shows on the Saturday & Sunday rather than an hour of irrelevant crap on the Sunday. Also liked how the Lives didn't drag on forever. They definitely DO need to scrap the prize fight though, not here for that.
Posted by: gooddelta Dec 3 2017, 08:57 PM
Despite all the flaws of the show this year, and the fact that I prefer and voted for Grace, I do think Rak-Su will do well, at least in comparison to all of the other winners post-James Arthur. Dimelo is relevant, bang on the latino trend and actually feels like it might be a chart hit without the show. Be interesting to see how it performs on Spotify and whether it can manage more than 2 or 3 weeks on the chart.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 09:00 PM
Yeah definitely need it back to how it was, but with original songs allowed as well. I mean they let Lucy Spraggan do it, if they just keep to mostly more wide themes like the love and Express Yourself ones from this year then original songs can easily fit, most good songwriters could fit their songs to wide themes like that. It just didn't feel like an event at all, it's just here and gone when they only have a few live shows. I much prefer the drama and tension of the Sunday results show even if having the whole hour for it drags a bit. Everything just felt flat for me from the judges comments to the guests a lot of the time to the results and the hideous Prize Fight thing.
Posted by: Rooney Dec 3 2017, 09:00 PM
Louis can take his leave too. I'll never forget his "YOU ARE REAL HUMAN BEINGS!" critique. Just atrocious.
All sorts need to be done to save the show but I'd be here forever
The show began to die when Simon left to flag the USA series. Since then it's just been trying new things to bring viewers back, but I think it just needed to go back to basics - no stupid twists etc. That said while I liked the Saturday/Sunday format it just felt like the series was over before it even began.
It does possibly seem they have found a way to get over the 'mum' vote at least.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 09:01 PM
Urgh, of course.
They really pushed for it, and Fix Factor got it.
At least now Roots won't have Paloma Faith tagged onto it!!
Grace needs to go with a different company as Syco are the pits.
Posted by: Ryan. Dec 3 2017, 09:08 PM
Because why not?
Winners Rate
1. Leona Lewis
2. Alexandra Burke
3. Little Mix
4. Louisa Johnson
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5. James Arthur
6. Matt Cardle
7. Rak-Su
8. Shayne Ward
9. Matt Terry
--
10. Ben Haenow
11. Joe McElderry
12. Sam Bailey
13. Leon Jackson
14. Steve Brookstein
Runners-up Rate
1. Saara Aalto
2. Grace Davies
3. Fleur East
--
4. Olly Murs
5. Rebecca Ferguson
6. JLS
--
7. Rhydian Roberts
8. Marcus Collins
9. Reggie & Bollie
10. Jahmene Douglas
11. Ray Quinn
12. Nicholas MacDonald
13. Andy Abraham
14. G4
Was totally team Grace but I applaud X Factor for getting a commercial winner that has a chance of a career and they had that in Grace and Rak-Su. Surely Syco will rush out albums for both of them before Easter? It'd be baffling not to!
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 09:17 PM
Can see Grace and Rak-Su getting albums before Summer 2018. They’re both ready for it seeing as both acts write their own songs.
Posted by: Parallel Reality Dec 3 2017, 09:26 PM
Not surprised at the winner.
Did Pink sing this weekend? I thought she was meant to? If yes, was it ‘Beautiful Trauma’?
Posted by: dancember Dec 3 2017, 09:27 PM
Did Pink sing this weekend? I thought she was meant to? If yes, was it ‘Beautiful Trauma’?
What About Us and Beautiful Trauma (now #7 and #15 on iTunes)
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 09:28 PM
Did Pink sing this weekend? I thought she was meant to? If yes, was it ‘Beautiful Trauma’?
Yep she did that and What About Us tonight
Posted by: Ryan. Dec 3 2017, 09:32 PM
Week 1 Saturday
Grace Davies - 21.9%
Holly Tandy - 15.9%
Lloyd Macey - 15.0%
Alisah Bonaobra - 11.8%
Rai-Elle Williams - 11.5%
Leon Mallett - 9.3%
Sam Black - 8.5%
Spencer Sutherland - 6.1%
Week 1 Sunday
Rak-Su - 22.2%
The Cutkelvins - 17.3%
Matt Linnen - 11.9%
Kevin Davy White - 11.1%
Sean & Conor Price - 10.6%
Tracyleanne Jefford - 10.3%
Jack & Joel - 9.2%
Talia Dean - 7.4%
Prize Fight Week 1
Grace Davies - 53.5%
Rak-Su - 46.5%
Week 2 Saturday
Rak-Su - 32.3%
The Cutkelvins - 15.1%
Lloyd Macey - 14.4%
Sam Black - 12.5%
Sean & Conor Price - 10.6%
Jack & Joel - 8.6%
Leon Mallett - 6.5%
Week 2 Sunday
Kevin Davy White - 21.9%
Grace Davies - 18.5%
Holly Tandy - 15.4%
Rai-Elle Williams - 14.3%
Matt Linnen - 13.6%
Alisah Bonaobra - 9.5%
Tracyleanne Jefford - 6.8%
Prize Fight Week 2
Kevin Davy White - 53.6%
Rak-Su - 46.4%
Week 3 Saturday
Kevin Davy White - 25.8%
Rak-Su - 25.7%
Matt Linnen - 14.1%
The Cutkelvins - 13.5%
Sean & Conor Price - 11.2%
Jack & Joel - 9.7%
Week 3 Sunday
Lloyd Macey - 26.4%
Grace Davies - 20.1%
Holly Tandy - 19.7%
Rai-Elle Williams - 14.4%
Sam Black - 11.1%
Alisah Bonaobra - 8.3%
Prize Fight Week 3
Lloyd Macey - 64.3%
Kevin Davy White - 35.7%
Week 4 Saturday
Rak-Su - 36.7%
Lloyd Macey - 22.8%
The Cutkelvins - 18.9%
Sean & Conor Price - 15.4%
Sam Black - 6.2%
Week 4 Sunday
Grace Davies - 26.1%
Matt Linnen - 22.5%
Kevin Davy White - 21.4%
Holly Tandy - 16.1%
Rai-Elle Williams - 13.9%
Prize Fight Week 4
Rak-Su - 61.5%
Grace Davies - 38.5%
Week 5 Saturday
Rak-Su - 26.1%
Kevin Davy White - 19.5%
Lloyd Macey - 19.2%
Grace Davies - 17.2%
The Cutkelvins - 10.1%
Matt Linnen - 7.9%
Week 5 Sunday
Rak-Su - 27.3%
Grace Davies - 26.0%
Kevin Davy White - 18.9%
Lloyd Macey - 18.2%
The Cutkelvins - 9.6%
Week 6 Freeze
Rak-Su - 41.7%
Grace Davies - 35.4%
Kevin Davy White - 22.9%
Week 6 Final
Rak-Su - 51.7%
Grace Davies – 40.1%
Kevin Davy White – 8.2% (Left competition at freeze)
Posted by: JosephCarey Dec 3 2017, 09:39 PM
As much as I wanted Grace to win, you really can't begrudge Rak-Su. They were remarkably consistent throughout and produced bops week after week. Dimelo is a massive tune and I'm hyped to download it, so refreshing as a winning single! I'm confident Simon will sign Grace anyway and we'll have a single at the very least from her by this time next year.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 09:39 PM
Surprised Rak-Su benefitted from Kevin!
Posted by: Liаm Dec 3 2017, 09:41 PM
No surprises there in the stats really, such a boring predictable series
Posted by: Mack'sXmasSack Dec 3 2017, 09:41 PM
Justice to see Rak-Su winning. Won my bet from the first live show.
Posted by: cqmerqn Dec 3 2017, 09:45 PM
Surprised Holly came 2nd in the first vote off.
Anyway, closer than I thought tbh!
Posted by: Slade Dec 3 2017, 09:58 PM
Really pleased that Rak-Su took the crown! It's quite refreshing to have an X Factor winner's single of this ilk, 'Dimelo' has barely left my head since yesterday.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 3 2017, 10:54 PM
Really bad song and mega cheese group
Surprised the casual Kevin voters wrnt over to Rak Su :/
Posted by: Houdini Dec 4 2017, 12:51 AM
Am I the only one who feels like guest performances should be scrapped from the X Factor? I tune in to watch new up and coming musicians perform, not musicians who are established already, if I want to see those people perform I will search for their videos on YouTube. It just feels like they are trying to force certain musicians upon the audience. During tonight's grand final I purposely took a toilet break when P!nk & Little Mix were on stage and it was only because I was in the middle of having my dinner that I didn't manage to dodge Sam Smith's performance.
Posted by: ChRiMbO LeG PiPe Dec 4 2017, 12:56 AM
I agree - I have skipped every single last guest performer.
Posted by: Liаm Dec 4 2017, 01:12 AM
It's hardly forcing just because you don't like them Pink, Little Mix and as much as I despise him Sam Smith are three of the biggest acts in the world, why wuld they not book them? Especiall Little Mix being one of the sow's biggest success stories. Plus how else are they going to fill the time counting results etc? The big names like that are the ones bringing viewers in as well, I'm sure a lot of people who were uming and ahhing about whether to watch watched for them, and perhaps people who otherwise wouldn't watch at all. Its nonsensical to scrap guests
Posted by: Houdini Dec 4 2017, 02:10 AM
It's not even a case of liking or not liking the performers. To me it just feels like waste of time having guests perform and always has done throughout the years of X Factor/Britain's Got Talent. It's not as if they have to spend half an hour counting the votes, it's only 5 minutes plus an advert break most of the time. They could spend that time interviewing the contestants instead rather than recycling the same shit every year.
Posted by: PaulM1983 Dec 4 2017, 11:12 AM
How is having the current biggest artists performing their current singles "recycling the same shit"? I don't understand this view at all.
With our lack of music shows nowadays, I look forward to some of the guest performances as they're the only chance we get to see some artists do huge performances of big tracks. Some of the X Factor guest performances have turned out to be some of my favourite ever, like Leona's Run for example.
It's certainly far more interesting than listening to another dull interview with contestants where they tell us how amazing the experience is and how grateful they are for the millionth time.
Posted by: Houdini Dec 4 2017, 01:46 PM
With our lack of music shows nowadays, I look forward to some of the guest performances as they're the only chance we get to see some artists do huge performances of big tracks. Some of the X Factor guest performances have turned out to be some of my favourite ever, like Leona's Run for example.
It's certainly far more interesting than listening to another dull interview with contestants where they tell us how amazing the experience is and how grateful they are for the millionth time.
Having the same artists coming back year after year is recycling the same shit to me. At least if there must be guest performances why not have new artists who have never performed on the show before appear. That's why I didn't think it was a bad decision to have Simon Cowell's band PrettyMuch perform on the show because they are still trying to make a name for themselves unlike the other artists who are already well established.
Posted by: dancember Dec 4 2017, 01:50 PM
Established artists get the show viewers though... in theory anyway, I believe this has been the lowest rated final in XF history but could've been worse if they didn't have Little Mix/P!nk/Sam Smith on.
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