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BuzzJack Music Forum _ Madonna _ American Life RAP ~ iconic or not?
Posted by: HausofKubrick 7th September 2016, 06:00 PM
So a song that always divides opinion, but we're going to focus on one specific part of it for this thread... the RAP. Hitting hard at 2:44 as a frantic middle-8 it features some CHOICE lyrics and perfectly encapsulates the hazy life that the song alludes to.
But what do you think of it? Is it iconic or a bit moronic? Do you enjoy it and most importantly can you rap along to it? *.*
Posted by: Bonquiqui 7th September 2016, 06:22 PM
its the single greatest recording in the history of music
Posted by: PERFECT ILLUSION 7th September 2016, 06:51 PM
absolutely iconic
Posted by: Regina 7th September 2016, 06:52 PM
I love it, not even in an ironic kind of way. It's so batshit crazy but oh so MADGE.
Posted by: Bonquiqui 7th September 2016, 06:52 PM
and yes I can do it
Posted by: HausofKubrick 7th September 2016, 07:23 PM
This is how I feel about it. I want to go back to the first time I ever heard it and try to think of how I reacted, but yeah now I spend the entire time listening to the song anticipating the rap. *.*
Posted by: Tyler 7th September 2016, 07:48 PM
I ADORE it. Perfect. She's rapping great lyrics that further validate the song and it's message.
Posted by: Pavel 7th September 2016, 09:52 PM
I heard this song a couple of months ago in a Spanish gay club (!) and I could still lipsync to the rap almost the way through. It's like my favorite Madonna piece *.*
Posted by: Liаm 7th September 2016, 10:10 PM
Exactly this! Nobody else could really get away with it but she nails it
And OF COURSE I can do the rap.
Posted by: vibe 8th September 2016, 03:00 PM
'Im not a Christian and im not a Jew'
All my non fans friends no that line !!!!
Posted by: Bonquiqui 8th September 2016, 03:20 PM
to bad this destroyed her career in the US
Posted by: liamk97 14th September 2016, 12:36 PM
I get a little tongue-tied on the "this metaphysics shit is dope" line but the rest I can nail. And proud of it.
I just adore how obnoxious and narcissistic and ironic it is; the fact people actually thought she was being serious makes it all the more fantastic.
The whole song seems to have become more and more appreciated by fans as time has gone on. I know that reviews were terrible at the time and that a lot of people seemed to hate it, but I feel like now there's barely any haters, or at least they're just not vocal about it which is even an improvement itself given how I remember people would not hold back on expressing that a few years back.
Posted by: Joe. 14th September 2016, 12:49 PM
I went for ionic. It's iconic in the same way as her fall at the Brits was.
Posted by: HausofTravis 14th September 2016, 07:42 PM
As in you can't ever replay it again, can't see the funny side in it and wish it could be erased from your memory forever?
Posted by: liamk97 15th September 2016, 07:12 AM
I didn't just make up the fact Madonna wanted Eminem to do the rap, did I?
Also, just imagine if Madonna did all the raps on her songs instead of getting featured artists in. "I'm froze up with my stove up, cuz he eatin' like it's his dinner".
Posted by: Qween 15th September 2016, 08:13 AM
Of course it's ICONIC. I can also recite it verbatim, as any true fan should be able to. I don't necessarily think it's GOOD in the strict sense that it ranks among the best things she's done a la Hung Up etc, but it's definitely a bold statement and very much works as part of the song and fits with the feel of the album. The only real shame about the whole affair is that disgusting flag video she released after the controversy.
Posted by: Joe. 15th September 2016, 08:31 AM
Precisely. Car crash syndrome iconic. Something she's remembers for for all the wrong reasons!
To be fair I just don't like the song in general.
Posted by: liamk97 15th September 2016, 09:06 AM
Oh God the official video is one of her worst, like an even worse situation than the two 'Make Me...' videos. I don't see why she couldn't have kept the original and just swapped the post-rap parts for something more tame?
Posted by: Bonquiqui 15th September 2016, 12:19 PM
omg f*** u
Posted by: Bonquiqui 15th September 2016, 12:21 PM
Also, just imagine if Madonna did all the raps on her songs instead of getting featured artists in. "I'm froze up with my stove up, cuz he eatin' like it's his dinner".
i heard it was Jay Z? lets be honest tho bot would have been horrid
Posted by: liamk97 17th September 2016, 01:02 PM
Yeah I think any sense of irony would have been lost if she got an established rapper to do the rap instead. It's the sort of thing only Madonna could pull off.
Would Eminem or Jay-Z feel super-duper in a mini cooper?
Posted by: Riser 18th September 2016, 03:15 AM
To be fair I just don't like the song in general.
(I voted iconic)
Posted by: Joe. 18th September 2016, 11:20 PM
(I voted iconic)
Oops! I meant to reply to Bal's response!
Posted by: Riser 19th September 2016, 03:42 AM
Posted by: liamk97 19th September 2016, 06:26 AM
Definitely iconic.
Posted by: Jordan Lee 19th June 2019, 12:40 AM
It’s one of her worst music moments for me.
American Life is a strong album what hugely grew on me after listening more closely.
But the title track and the rap is one of the worst ever things she’s done.
I low key love when I’m pissed though and I do the rap word for word but when I’m sober I can’t listen to it.
Posted by: blacksquare 19th June 2019, 06:53 AM
Iconic
It’s silly and fantastic — probably one of my favourite produced songs ever too. Mirwais did good~
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