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BuzzJack Music Forum _ UK Charts _ Unluckiest #3 peaking songs

Posted by: Rob 17th February 2021, 11:39 AM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Feb 16 2021, 07:35 PM) *
Same goes to the #3, Whitney Houston's 'It's Not Right, But It's Okay', which debuted with 161k - huge sales for a #3!


I feel like unlucky #3's could deserve its own thread. Carly Rae's I Really Like You springs to mind.

Posted by: Mangø 17th February 2021, 03:38 PM

QUOTE(Rob @ Feb 17 2021, 11:39 AM) *
I feel like unlucky #3's could deserve its own thread. Carly Rae's I Really Like You springs to mind.

Yeah, that would definitely be an interesting thread. I'd love to know the highest selling #3 (both weekly and total sales).

Posted by: Dot Branning 17th February 2021, 04:31 PM

QUOTE(Mangø @ Feb 17 2021, 03:38 PM) *
Yeah, that would definitely be an interesting thread. I'd love to know the highest selling #3 (both weekly and total sales).


I believe the highest selling song which peaked at #3 is 'Blue Monday' by New Order, although i'm assuming that is the combined sales of the original and the 1988 version.

I'd be interested to know the highest selling weekly total for a #3 though.

Posted by: chartjack2 17th February 2021, 04:40 PM

The A Team is also an unlucky #3

Posted by: Jade 17th February 2021, 04:42 PM

Lady Gaga - Born This Way of course ended up at #3 due to not being available for the whole week, costing a #1 position sad.gif

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th February 2021, 04:47 PM

Split into a new thread! If we get some good suggestions going I can put together a poll.

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2021, 04:57 PM

I don’t think it was ever close enough to no.1 or no.2 as it only had a single week at no.3 but my favourite no.3 hit is Left Outside Alone by Anastacia. 11 weeks in the top 10 which was unheard of for 2004. Only 6 songs that year outsold it.

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th February 2021, 04:59 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 17 2021, 04:57 PM) *
I don’t think it was ever close enough to no.1 or no.2 as it only had a single week at no.3 but my favourite no.3 hit is Left Outside Alone by Anastacia. 11 weeks in the top 10 which was unheard of for 2004. Only 6 songs that year outsold it.

This somehow reminded me of Outkast's 'Hey Ya' which had an usual chart run for the time 6-8-10-13-22-16-13-14-9-9-4-4-3-6-6-6-9-19-32-45-65

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 17th February 2021, 05:00 PM

QUOTE(Rob @ Feb 17 2021, 11:39 AM) *
I feel like unlucky #3's could deserve its own thread. Carly Rae's I Really Like You springs to mind.


Definitely. sad.gif I wish SO MUCH that had been a number one.

Both Shania ones too I imagine? Oh and Jax Jones being completely and utterly ROBBED by Ed Sheeran surprise releasing two songs.

The Saturdays - Missing You I guess, and Gaga's 'Born This Way' but that one was through sheer stupidity.

Posted by: JulianT 17th February 2021, 05:04 PM

Pump It by Black Eyed Peas deserves a mention just because it was only 334 off Number 1 - albeit behind the lowest weekly #1 sale in history!

What's the longest spell at #3? Mabel's 4 weeks recently springs to mind. Jimmy Jones' Handy Man managed 5 weeks in 3 separate runs back in 1960.

Posted by: T Boy 17th February 2021, 05:08 PM

Liam, do you know what the highest weekly sale for a no.3 is?

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th February 2021, 05:15 PM

QUOTE(T Boy @ Feb 17 2021, 05:08 PM) *
Liam, do you know what the highest weekly sale for a no.3 is?

Since 1997, I think it's Whitney Houston's 'It's Not Right, But It's Okay' which sold 161k at #3.

In 1995, whilst at #3, 'Gangsta's Paradise' by Coolio and 'Father & Son' by Boyzone sold 163k and 165k respectively, but both songs peaked higher and the 1994-96 period for sales has since been revised down by the OCC. Anything before 1994 pre-dates the current OCC archive but I'll have a look if anything's estimated to have achieved higher sales.

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th February 2021, 05:22 PM

Paul McCartney's 'We All Stand Together' spent three weeks at #3 behind Band Aid and Wham in 1984, selling an estimated 127k, 141k and 93k.

Another one from Christmas, this time 1980: 'Stop the Cavalry' spent five consecutive weeks at #3, selling an estimated 183k in its peak week!

Posted by: Dot Branning 17th February 2021, 05:23 PM

Shania Twain is a good shout, since she never managed to get beyond #3 and 'That Don't Impress Me Much' remained there for 3 weeks and a further 7 in the Top 10, impressive for the rapid turnover of 1999.

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th February 2021, 05:25 PM

QUOTE(Dot Branning @ Feb 17 2021, 05:23 PM) *
Shania Twain is a good shout, since she never managed to get beyond #3 and 'That Don't Impress Me Much' remained there for 3 weeks and a further 7 in the Top 10, impressive for the rapid turnover of 1999.

7th best seller that year too!

Posted by: Dot Branning 17th February 2021, 05:26 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Feb 17 2021, 05:22 PM) *
Paul McCartney's 'We All Stand Together' spent three weeks at #3 behind Band Aid and Wham in 1984, selling an estimated 127k, 141k and 93k.

Another one from Christmas, this time 1980: 'Stop the Cavalry' spent five consecutive weeks at #3, selling an estimated 183k in its peak week!


Wow 'Stop The Cavalry' would have made a great #1 and 183k for a #3 must surely be a record!

Given the year i'm guessing it was stuck behind the John Lennon releases.

Posted by: Mangø 17th February 2021, 05:27 PM

Any week where the entire Top 3 were new entries I'd consider the #3 single to be pretty unlucky (unless of course the song ended up peaking higher). Not sure how many times that's happened in chart history but I imagine it would have happened a few times during the 2000s decade.

Posted by: rio309 17th February 2021, 05:28 PM

The few weeks in early 2001 when sales suddenly went crazy - Atomic Kitten, Shaggy, Uptown Girl, Hear'say - that must have had some big #3 sales as they all overlapped?

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th February 2021, 05:33 PM

QUOTE(rio309 @ Feb 17 2021, 05:28 PM) *
The few weeks in early 2001 when sales suddenly went crazy - Atomic Kitten, Shaggy, Uptown Girl, Hear'say - that must have had some big #3 sales as they all overlapped?

Yep, Shaggy had the highest weekly sale for a #3 position this side of the millennium with 147k

Posted by: Jade 17th February 2021, 05:33 PM

QUOTE(Dot Branning @ Feb 17 2021, 05:26 PM) *
Wow 'Stop The Cavalry' would have made a great #1 and 183k for a #3 must surely be a record!

Given the year i'm guessing it was stuck behind the John Lennon releases.

It was stuck behind both John Lennon and St. Winifred's School Choir!

(I know that period quite well due to researching Adam and the Ants' chart history recently - 'Antmusic' was blocked by John Lennon and 'Kings of the Wild Frontier' blocked by a John Lennon cover (Roxy Music - 'Jealous Guy') cry.gif laugh.gif)

Posted by: Dot Branning 17th February 2021, 05:34 PM

I'm not sure if it ever came close to progressing further but 'Move Your Feet' by Junior Senior is another one that hung around the Top 10 for a long time (for it's era) and peaked at #3 in non-consecutive weeks.

Posted by: Dot Branning 17th February 2021, 05:44 PM

QUOTE(Jade @ Feb 17 2021, 05:33 PM) *
It was stuck behind both John Lennon and St. Winifred's School Choir!

(I know that period quite well due to researching Adam and the Ants' chart history recently - 'Antmusic' was blocked by John Lennon and 'Kings of the Wild Frontier' blocked by a John Lennon cover (Roxy Music - 'Jealous Guy') cry.gif laugh.gif)


Ah of course St Winifed's! Before my time but I gather this was one of those singles that shifted massive amounts but which nobody would subsequently admit to buying! laugh.gif

It's a shame about 'Kings of the Wild Frontier' as well.

Posted by: chartjack2 17th February 2021, 06:01 PM

OutKast’s Hey Ya and 50 Cent’s In Da Club are rare examples of early to mid 2000s record that climbed the charts and both peaked at #3. I guess you could say they were both unlucky because those earlier sales matched with the weeks they were at #3 they would probably have been #1s.

Posted by: Mangø 17th February 2021, 06:06 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Feb 17 2021, 04:59 PM) *
This somehow reminded me of Outkast's 'Hey Ya' which had an usual chart run for the time 6-8-10-13-22-16-13-14-9-9-4-4-3-6-6-6-9-19-32-45-65

Any idea what caused its erratic chart run? I remember it being a bit of an unusual run at the time but didn't realise it dropped out of the top 20 before climbing back to its #3 peak!

Posted by: JulianT 17th February 2021, 06:09 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Feb 17 2021, 05:33 PM) *
Yep, Shaggy had the highest weekly sale for a #3 position this side of the millennium with 147k

Changes by Ozzy and Kelly must have got close to that on Christmas week when it was knocked from 1 to 3?

Posted by: vibe 17th February 2021, 06:09 PM

madonna Like A Virgin is a contender

Posted by: Liam.k. 17th February 2021, 06:14 PM

QUOTE(JulianT @ Feb 17 2021, 06:09 PM) *
Changes by Ozzy and Kelly must have got close to that on Christmas week when it was knocked from 1 to 3?

145k for 'Changes'

The #3 position has sold over 100k on seven occasions since 2000:

1. 147,000 Shaggy - It Wasn't Me [24 March 2001]
2. 144,802 Ozzy & Kelly Osbourne - Changes [27 December 2003]
3. 133,000 Eminem ft. Dido - Stan [30 December 2000]
4. 111,744 PSY - Gangnam Style [05 January 2013]
5. 106,500 DJ Otzi - Hey Baby [06 October 2001]
6. 103,000 S Club 7 - Never Had a Dream Come True [16 December 2000]
7. 102,000 Westlife - Uptown Girl [31 March 2001]

All of these were #1s though. The highest weekly sale at #3 for song that peaked there was... Lou Monte's 'Dominick the Donkey' with 92,751. tearsmile.gif

Posted by: JulianT 17th February 2021, 06:21 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Feb 17 2021, 06:14 PM) *
The highest weekly sale at #3 for song that peaked there was... Lou Monte's 'Dominick the Donkey' with 92,751. tearsmile.gif

laugh.gif
Born This Way's 82k really is up there then.

Posted by: Dot Branning 17th February 2021, 06:23 PM

Couldn't tell you a single lyric from that Donkey song but I have a feeling it was a "get this random non-entity to Christmas Number 1 just for the sake of it" situation. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: dan :: G 17th February 2021, 06:36 PM

QUOTE(Dot Branning @ Feb 17 2021, 06:23 PM) *
Couldn't tell you a single lyric from that Donkey song but I have a feeling it was a "get this random non-entity to Christmas Number 1 just for the sake of it" situation. rolleyes.gif

it was indeed, a Chris Moyles campaign from when he was on Radio 1

Posted by: jimwatts 17th February 2021, 07:07 PM

QUOTE(JulianT @ Feb 17 2021, 05:04 PM) *
What's the longest spell at #3? Mabel's 4 weeks recently springs to mind. Jimmy Jones' Handy Man managed 5 weeks in 3 separate runs back in 1960.

Didn't know about that Jimmy Jones one! I've added it to the lists in the first and third posts of:
http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=224552

As far as I know, 6 other songs have managed 5 weeks at #3, most recently Anne-Marie's '2002'. Whatever you think of the song, that has to be a candidate for an unlucky #3 given how much the Top 2 changed over those weeks, and it was within 500 sales of the #2 song twice too.

Posted by: Dot Branning 17th February 2021, 07:17 PM

QUOTE(dan :: G @ Feb 17 2021, 06:36 PM) *
it was indeed, a Chris Moyles campaign from when he was on Radio 1


MOYLESSSSS! *shakes fist like Mark Lamarr*

Posted by: fiesta 17th February 2021, 08:11 PM

Missing by Everything But The Girl spent 22 weeks in the top 75 and sold 870000 in the 90's.

Posted by: JackTheeStallion 17th February 2021, 09:20 PM

Don't Call Me Up feels fairly unlucky given how huge it was compared to other #1s in the year.

Posted by: Scene 17th February 2021, 09:52 PM

I remember Billionaire being unlucky not to get to #1. I think a fake version was released on iTunes beforehand and went top 10 which effectively cost the real version sales (if my memory serves me right).

Edit: On second thoughts it might have suffered from an early release. I just remember something was messy about it and they would've gone to #1 under normal circumstances. laugh.gif

Posted by: Liаm 17th February 2021, 10:03 PM

It's Not Right But It's Okay really should've been a #1, feels huge too, what a BOP

Posted by: Bré 17th February 2021, 11:39 PM

I feel like this discussion is a little bit tenuous compared to the 'unlucky #2s' thread kink.gif kind of gone from a variety of reasons for being unlucky to just 'name any song that peaked at #3 and sold a lot / had longevity' for the most part.

Posted by: Mangø 17th February 2021, 11:56 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Feb 17 2021, 11:39 PM) *
I feel like this discussion is a little bit tenuous compared to the 'unlucky #2s' thread kink.gif kind of gone from a variety of reasons for being unlucky to just 'name any song that peaked at #3 and sold a lot / had longevity' for the most part.

Yeah, definitely laugh.gif but there are a handful of songs which have been mentioned which deserve to make the shortlist for a poll, and I guess that was the point of the thread.

Posted by: JackJones 18th February 2021, 12:24 AM

Not necessarily a close call but at least a no 3 hit, does anyone know how close Paula Abdul was from the top saleswise when Straight Up peaked at number three?

Posted by: Bjork 18th February 2021, 07:12 AM

QUOTE(Bré @ Feb 18 2021, 12:39 AM) *
I feel like this discussion is a little bit tenuous compared to the 'unlucky #2s' thread kink.gif kind of gone from a variety of reasons for being unlucky to just 'name any song that peaked at #3 and sold a lot / had longevity' for the most part.


so far it sounds like What's everybody favourite #3?

Posted by: RabbitFurCoat 18th February 2021, 09:52 AM

I've no idea how many sales it was behind the two songs above it, but I've always wondered whether There Goes The Fear would've been bigger had it not been deleted after a day, though could just have been the gimmick that made it chart so high in the first place!

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2021, 10:01 AM

QUOTE(RabbitFurCoat @ Feb 18 2021, 09:52 AM) *
I've no idea how many sales it was behind the two songs above it, but I've always wondered whether There Goes The Fear would've been bigger had it not been deleted after a day, though could just have been the gimmick that made it chart so high in the first place!


Oasis were no.1 so I doubt it would have made a difference. I always thought it was the gimmick that got it there.

Posted by: Robbie 18th February 2021, 10:13 AM

^
top 3 sales 27/04/02

1. The Hindu Times - Oasis 116k
2. Girlfriend - 'N-Sync & Nelly 53k
3. There Goes The Fear - Doves 41k

Posted by: AcerBen 18th February 2021, 10:20 AM

One chart week that springs to mind was w/e 10/04/99

1. Mr Oizo 184,000
2. Eminem 143,000
3. Phats & Small 116,000
4. Thank ABBA For The Music 99,000

Very high sales for 2-4!

Posted by: Sour Candy 18th February 2021, 11:03 AM

it's always a bit stretch to call #3 unlucky, as there are two songs above it.

We could go on and on and have a thread about "unlucky #9's" tongue.gif

Posted by: Mangø 18th February 2021, 11:14 AM

QUOTE(Sour Candy @ Feb 18 2021, 11:03 AM) *
it's always a bit stretch to call #3 unlucky, as there are two songs above it.

We could go on and on and have a thread about "unlucky #9's" tongue.gif

If we're talking about unlucky #9s 'Ciao Adios' comes to mind tongue.gif

Posted by: coi 18th February 2021, 11:30 AM

QUOTE(Mangø @ Feb 18 2021, 11:14 AM) *
If we're talking about unlucky #9s 'Ciao Adios' comes to mind tongue.gif

Considering its chart run of hitting #9 on four separate occasions, Lost Without You by Freya Ridings definitely does. Honourable mention for A Sky Full of Stars too.

Posted by: jimwatts 18th February 2021, 11:35 AM

Also, DJ Luck & MC Neat - A Little Bit Of Luck went 18-17-14-11-12-9-9-10-10-16... during one of the fastest periods of Top 10 turnover in chart history.

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2021, 11:46 AM

When You’re Gone by Bryan Adams and Mel C could be an example. Sales were massive at that point, did it ever get any weeks at 100k+?

Posted by: rio309 18th February 2021, 11:57 AM

1975 - If You're Too Shy is my vote when we get to unlucky #14s!

Sold 27k which would almost get you top 5 now, ten months later

Posted by: Jay❄ 18th February 2021, 12:11 PM

QUOTE(Bré @ Feb 17 2021, 11:39 PM) *
'name any song that peaked at #3 and sold a lot / had longevity' for the most part.

Let me add to this magic.gif (I started writing this post before T Boy mentioned the song in question!)

Bryan Adams feat. Melanie C - When You're Gone stands out to me, in terms of going on to be a much bigger hit than the song that prevented it from #2.

When You're Gone entered and peaked at #3, while Jay-Z - Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem) was a new entry at #2 (according to Gezza their first week sales were 78,000 and 107,000 respectively, so clearly not a close call... however... When You're Gone placed higher in the chart in every subsequent week in 1998 and 1999, therefore it achieved a much better chart run and sales. In its 9th week, Bryan was at #5 while Jay-Z was #57!

1998/1999 chart runs:
02-07-12-13-15-25-37-51-57-65-62-81-00-00-88-80-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 [Jay-Z - Hard Knock Life (Ghetto Anthem)]
03-06-08-07-06-06-06-07-05-07-11-15-22-32-36-42-50-57-65-00-00-00-84-86 [Bryan Adams feat. Melanie C - When You're Gone]

Hard Knock Life:
56th best selling single of 1998 - 274,000 copies sold (and not in the Top 200 best sellers of 1999; #200 sold 78,300)
Certification: Gold (1st May 2015)
Recent total sales: 476,000 as of March 2018
(I can't find anything more up to date, but working off its sales being 460k on 18th Aug 2017 and 476k on 9th Mar 2018, with the assumption of its average weekly sales staying the same, it would have reached 560k now)

When You're Gone:
45th best selling single of 1998 - 317,000 copies sold
55th best selling single of 1999 - 318,000 copies sold
73rd best selling single of the 1990s decade - 635,000 copies sold
Certification: Platinum (12th February 1999)
Recent total sales: 901,000 as of January 2021

These are the weekly sales for When You're Gone while it was in the Top 10:

78,000 - #03 [06/12/1998]
67,000 - #06 [13/12/1998]
75,000 - #08 [20/12/1998]
60,000 - #07 [27/12/1998]
37,000 - #06 [03/01/1999]
36,000 - #06 [10/01/1999]
36,000 - #06 [17/01/1999]
40,000 - #07 [24/01/1999]
39,000 - #05 [31/01/1999]
34,000 - #07 [07/02/1999]



In terms of all the Spice Girls' solo careers, When You're Gone has vastly outsold everything else, even though 11 of their solo singles charted in the Top 2 (eight #1s, three #2s). The second highest selling solo Spice single is 477,000 for It's Raining Men by Geri Halliwell, as of May 2020.

Posted by: coi 18th February 2021, 12:14 PM

QUOTE(rio309 @ Feb 18 2021, 11:57 AM) *
1975 - If You're Too Shy is my vote when we get to unlucky #14s!

Sold 27k which would almost get you top 5 now, ten months later

It also fell really quickly though.

Scared To Be Lonely deserved better! It already spent two weeks at #14, and if Ed Sheeran's Divide album had the three track per artist rule applied at the time it would have spent ANOTHER two weeks at #14.

Oh, and Into You obviously, three weeks at #14!

Posted by: gooddelta 18th February 2021, 12:27 PM

As well as being an absolutely massive No.3 that deserved more, When You're Gone is an interesting track in that both artists sing in tandem on it throughout (apart from Mel's ad-libs and Bryan's talking bits), a bit like Take That's These Days, where all three of the band sing together throughout. I guess that's also Bananarama's USP.

But you don't get too many duets or collaborations where everyone involved sings every word together.

Posted by: ClaudiaKinkleman 18th February 2021, 12:33 PM

‘All Fired Up’, stuck behind the unluckiest number-two ‘Moves Like Jagger’, stuck behind Pixie Lott’s ‘All About Tonight’ which hugely benefitted from a prime-time performance on Red or Black during release week.

I remember Example’s ‘Stay Awake’ being released the week prior debuting at number-one with a good 17,000 sales less than what All Fired Up sold in its first week.

Posted by: T Boy 18th February 2021, 12:35 PM

QUOTE(gooddelta @ Feb 18 2021, 12:27 PM) *
As well as being an absolutely massive No.3 that deserved more, When You're Gone is an interesting track in that both artists sing in tandem on it throughout (apart from Mel's ad-libs and Bryan's talking bits), a bit like Take That's These Days, where all three of the band sing together throughout. I guess that's also Bananarama's USP.

But you don't get too many duets or collaborations where everyone involved sings every word together.


There’s Snow Patrol and Martha Wainwright on Set The Fire To The First Bar. Also A Great Big World and Christina Aguilera on Say Something.

Posted by: Tafty 18th February 2021, 12:42 PM

It might not be "unlucky" but as we're kinda on the topic of best songs to peak at #3, Britney Spears - Gimme More is the winner and you can argue with your walls about that. drink.gif

I was curious to see what stopped her and... it's arguably one of the strongest top 3's there is as Sugababes - About You Now & Mark Ronson feat. Amy Winehouse - Valerie were ahead of her. I don't know sales (but I assume they were quite low? 30k-ish?) so I don't know if she'd have benefitted in any other time of the year in comparison.

Posted by: Jay❄ 18th February 2021, 12:51 PM

How about TLC - No Scrubs?

It had a fairly unusual chart run by 1999 standards: 7-13-8-6-9-3-5-5-9-12-12-16-22-29-38-37-44-60-69

The Top 2 in the week it peaked at #3 were #1: Westlife - Swear It Again [80k] and #2 Offspring - Why Don't You Get a Job? [72k]; TLC were #3 with 53k, so unfortunately not close.

No Scrubs was the 16th best seller of the year with 553k sales (second biggest #3 hit of the year, behind Shania Twain - That Don't Impress Me Much), whereas Swear It Again was 46th with 349k and Why Don't You Get a Job was evidently very front loaded because it ended 117th with 157k. Westlife's single is Gold, Offspring went Silver in 2014. No Scrubs became 2xPlatinum in 2018.

I'd say that No Scrubs has definitely stood the test of time and is regarded as one of the ultimate girl group classics... I guess many people who aren't chart enthusiasts might be surprised that it wasn't a #1 hit!

~~~

#4 singles... a couple of them from early 2014 strike me as a bit unlucky, considering they sold a lot more than was typically needed to be #4. There were certainly a lot of #2 sales from that year which didn't sell this much:

Neon Jungle - Braveheart - 63,743 [Such a strong first week sale for a new girl group! Such a shame they fizzled out so quickly]
Gorgon City/MNEK - Ready for Your Love - 71,966

Posted by: Liam.k. 18th February 2021, 01:19 PM

QUOTE(Tafty @ Feb 18 2021, 12:42 PM) *
It might not be "unlucky" but as we're kinda on the topic of best songs to peak at #3, Britney Spears - Gimme More is the winner and you can argue with your walls about that. drink.gif

I was curious to see what stopped her and... it's arguably one of the strongest top 3's there is as Sugababes - About You Now & Mark Ronson feat. Amy Winehouse - Valerie were ahead of her. I don't know sales (but I assume they were quite low? 30k-ish?) so I don't know if she'd have benefitted in any other time of the year in comparison.

Its download release was brought a week forward so sold 18k on downloads alone to debut at #3 (Sugababes sold 41k and Mark Ronson sold 33k). The following week, when it was released physically, it sold 32k but dropped to #6! This was on 'Bleeding Love'/'Rule the World' release week, plus McFly were new at #3.

Posted by: Tafty 18th February 2021, 01:24 PM

QUOTE(Liam.k. @ Feb 18 2021, 01:19 PM) *
Its download release was brought a week forward so sold 18k on downloads alone to debut at #3 (Sugababes sold 41k and Mark Ronson sold 33k). The following week, when it was released physically, it sold 32k but dropped to #6! This was on 'Bleeding Love'/'Rule the World' release week, plus McFly were new at #3.
Omg. I assume it would have been around (or close to) 50k had it had a dual release! So she *could* have been #1 that week. Ughhhh!

But wtf at that sudden jump in sales. 18k to get #3 and then 32k to get a #6! LMAO. Crazy!

Did Take That ever get mentioned in the unlucky #2's thread, icr? They ran Leona close several times, right?

Posted by: Dot Branning 18th February 2021, 03:07 PM

QUOTE(Robbie @ Feb 18 2021, 10:13 AM) *
^
top 3 sales 27/04/02

1. The Hindu Times - Oasis 116k
2. Girlfriend - 'N-Sync & Nelly 53k
3. There Goes The Fear - Doves 41k


Not out of the question that it could have swapped with NSync and made #2 I suppose. But then as already noted I think the gimmick of it been deleted helped it to #3 anyway.

Posted by: Dot Branning 18th February 2021, 03:14 PM

'When You're Gone' is my favourite of the solo Spice singles. Brilliant song.

Posted by: Chez Wombat 18th February 2021, 03:23 PM

I think the only way a #3 can be 'unlucky' is that if it's sales were big enough to be #1 if they'd waited a couple of weeks, but it happened to get caught by not one to but two huge new releases. I guess one that comes to mind is McFly's The Heart Never Lies which I think had a higher first week than their number 1 that year (Baby's Coming Back) but lost to the Bleeding Love-Rule the World stranglehold. Could've definitely been in closer contention the week before with Sugababes' fourth week.

(If we're just talking about best #3s, Green Day's American Idiot is one of my favourite, got beat by an all new top 3 Eric Prydz and Girls Aloud D:)

Posted by: Rob 18th February 2021, 04:54 PM

I'm not sure how my post in the other thread got turned into a whole new thread mellow.gif

Didn't Carly Rae's I Really Like You have a huge opening week at #3 that would have been #1 in most of the preceding week's that year?

Posted by: Bjork 18th February 2021, 05:04 PM

found this on I Really Like You:

Despite falling short of the top two, Carly Rae Jepsen's new single I Really Like You - the first single from upcoming album E-MO-TION - opens with an excellent first week tally of 85,840 sales, enough to debut at number three. That is the highest sale for a number three since June 2013 - when Daft Punk’s Get Lucky (feat. Pharrell Williams) held the position on sales of 88,136 - and makes it the Canadian singer's highest charting single since introductory smash Call Me Maybe opened at number one (on sales of 106,657 copies) a shade over three years ago. Call Me Maybe has since gone on to sell 1,372,444 copies. 29 year old Jepsen co-wrote both songs.

but was not that close:
1 Omi 112,626
2 Wiz Khalifa feat. Charlie Puth 111,542
3 Carly Rae Jepsen 85,840

Posted by: Bré 18th February 2021, 05:23 PM

QUOTE(Tafty @ Feb 18 2021, 12:42 PM) *
It might not be "unlucky" but as we're kinda on the topic of best songs to peak at #3, Britney Spears - Gimme More is the winner and you can argue with your walls about that. drink.gif


Lol. No.

Posted by: Jay❄ 18th February 2021, 06:30 PM

QUOTE(Chez Wombat @ Feb 18 2021, 03:23 PM) *
(If we're just talking about best #3s, Green Day's American Idiot is one of my favourite, got beat by an all new top 3 Eric Prydz and Girls Aloud D:)

Speaking of Girls Aloud... a couple of their #3 hits, Something Kinda Ooooh and Call the Shots, were #2 throughout the midweek updates, but were overtaken in time for the official chart! Fedde Le Grand - Put Your Hands Up for Detroit and Bodyrox - Yeah Yeah both pushed Something Kinda Ooooh down, while T2 - Heartbroken got in the way of Call the Shots. This still hurts me tbh kink.gif x

I've researched the midweeks and sales information for the two Girls Aloud singles and those three dance songs, but I've decided to post all that info in the Girls Aloud forum rather than here. If anyone is interested, the post is here! - http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=233674&view=findpost&p=6801702

Posted by: paulgilb 18th February 2021, 10:53 PM

Ordinary Boys - Boys Will Be Boys spent 3 weeks in a row at #3, coming very close to #2 in the first two of those weeks.

Plan B - She Said was unlucky not to get to at least #2 (it spent 4 weeks in total at #3, and the first week was very close sales-wise).

Posted by: Adelita 19th February 2021, 01:31 AM

Gaga's Born This Way ofc.

Posted by: Suedehead2 19th February 2021, 05:47 PM

One of the unluckiest number three songs ever has to be Rodrigo's Guitar Concerto de Aranjuez by Manuel And The Music Of The Mountains in 1976. Because it was half-term week, I was able to hear the new chart being unveiled on the Tuesday lunchtime and Rodrigo was announced as the number one. Soon afterwards, Radio 1 said that the chart was riddled with errors and that a new one would be revealed later that afternoon. The updated chart had Rodrigo at number three which is as high as it got.

Posted by: Robbie 19th February 2021, 07:15 PM

QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Feb 19 2021, 05:47 PM) *
One of the unluckiest number three songs ever has to be Rodrigo's Guitar Concerto de Aranjuez by Manuel And The Music Of The Mountains in 1976. Because it was half-term week, I was able to hear the new chart being unveiled on the Tuesday lunchtime and Rodrigo was announced as the number one. Soon afterwards, Radio 1 said that the chart was riddled with errors and that a new one would be revealed later that afternoon. The updated chart had Rodrigo at number three which is as high as it got.
45 years ago this very week! The first of two occasions where a chart compilation error by then chart compilers BMRB led to the wrong record being placed at number 1 (the second was in November 1979) . Manuel (a.k.a musician Geoff Love) actually got to number 3 the following week. On the revised chart of 17 February 1976 he ended up relegated to number 4. The erroneous top 50 from that week has seldom been seen, I think the top 20 may have been published in one of the early editions of the Guinness Book Of British Hit Singles. Here is that incorrect top 50 with the revised chart positions in square brackets:

1 (8) Manuel & His Music Of The Mountains [4]
2 (23) Tina Charles [3]
3 (3) Four Seasons [1]
4 (1) Slik [2]
5 (21) Yvonne Fair [14]
6 (7) Walker Bros [11]
7 (25) Slade [18]
8 (41) CW McCall [7]
9 (6) R&J Stone [9]
10 (29) Pluto [10]
11 (17) Glenn Miller [13]
12 (2) Abba [5]
13 (19) The Who [15]
14 (10) David Ruffin [16]
15 (36) Status Quo [17]
16 (4) Miracles [8]
17 (11) Wing & A Prayer [19]
18 (30) O'Jays [20]
19 (27) Smokie [21]
20 (44) Stylistics [22]
21 (15) War [12]
22 (31) Manhatten Transfer [24]
23 (9) Barbara Dickson [25]
24 (32) Evelyn Thomas [26]
25 (33) LJ Johnson [27]
26 (11) ELO [28]
27 (28) Donny And Marie [29]
28 (20) Billy Howard [30]
29 (45) Cliff Richard [31]
30 (16) Queen [32]
31 (34) The Captain & Tennille [33]
32 (-) Billy Ocean [34]
33 (24) Mike Oldfield [36]
34 (22) Sailor [37]
35 (14) Small Faces [38]
36 (-) Fatback Band [39]
37 (50) St Andrew's Chorale [40]
38 (48) Amen Corner [41]
39 (37) George McCrae [-]
40 (42) Juggy Jones [42]
41 (18) Osibisa [43]
42 (5) Donna Summer [6]
43 (40) Faith Hope And Charity [44]
44 (-) Guys And Dolls [45]
45 (-) Be Bop Deluxe [46]
46 (47) Bob Dylan [47]
47 (-) Marmalade [48]
48 (46) Sound 9418 [49]
49 (43) Ethna Campbell [50]
50 (-) Randy Edleman [-]

For anyone who wants to know the titles of the singles, here is the correct chart https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19760215/7501/

The second occasion an incorrect record was placed at number 1 was in November 1979 when 'When You're In Love With A Beautiful Woman' by Dr Hook was announced as the new number 1 on 06/11/79 (chart dated 10/11/79) with 'One Day At A Time' by Lena Martell down to number 2. Lena's record label, Pye Records, somehow noticed a discrepancy in the figures and registered a complaint. BMRB realised some of her sales had been added to Dr Hook's sales and the top 2 sales were recalculated with Lena being placed back at number 1 the following day. On this occasion Dr Hook did get to number 1 the following Tuesday.

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