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Posted by: Regina 5th September 2015, 09:59 AM

Her best PWL single ever? Possibly.



Her last original song released on PWL, served as the lead single from her GH, and got to #14. Kylie has gone on record as saying she isn't fond of it, it's never been performed live on any of her tours, but was featured in some medleys.

Dicuss.

Posted by: florenceminogue 5th September 2015, 10:17 AM

My best friend Conor adores this along with 'Word Is Out' and thinks they are some of her finest PWL moments.
I do love it too and love the No/Tech No Logical Remixes.

She did perform some of it in the request section of 'KMO' Tour in Belfast to my delight

Posted by: slowdown73 5th September 2015, 10:19 AM

I really like what kind of fool. Shame the remixes never made the new box sets.

Posted by: J▼hnkm 5th September 2015, 10:42 AM

It is INCREDIBLE. I'd say it is probably her best PWL single, though Turn It Into Love and Got To Be Certain give it a very strong run for its money. I know I've mentioned it about 50 times in here of late, but it just exudes joy and fun and the hooks are big enough to snag a BLUE WHALE.

Posted by: mr_pmt 5th September 2015, 03:00 PM

I do have a bit of a soft spot for it, but I always overlook it and forget about it among her discography. Gloriously camp though!

Posted by: Acidburn 5th September 2015, 06:27 PM

I actually do love this one, so underrated and never hear it anywhere anymore, but I wouldn't rank it as her best PWL single, but definitely in the top 10 this is how I rank her PWL singles, Best to Worst =

01. I Should Be So Lucky
02. Better The Devil You Know
03. Hand On Your Heart
04. What Do I Have To Do
05. Never Too Late
06. Got To Be Certain
07. What Kind Of Fool (Heard All That Before)
08. The Locomotion
09. Wouldn't Change A Thing
10. Step Back In Time
11. Turn It Into Love
12. Shocked
13. Give Me Just A Little More Time
14. Je Ne Sais Pas Pourqoui
15. Finer Feelings
16. Tears On My Pillow
17. It's No Secret
18. If You Were With Me Now
19. Word Is Out
20. Celebration

Posted by: J▼hnkm 5th September 2015, 06:54 PM

WHY NOT

01 What Kind Of Fool (Heard All That Before)
02 Turn It Into Love
03 Got To Be Certain
04 Step Back In Time
05 Word Is Out
06 Hand On Your Heart
07 What Do I Have To Do
08 I Should Be So Lucky
09 Better The Devil You Know
10 Wouldn't Change A Thing

11 It's No Secret
12 Finer Feelings
13 Never Too Late
14 Shocked
15 Je Ne Sais Pas Pourqoui
16 Give Me Just A Little More Time
17 Tears On My Pillow
18 If You Were With Me Now
19 The Locomotion
20 Celebration

Posted by: Regina 5th September 2015, 07:00 PM

01 Turn It Into Love
02 What Kind Of Fool (Heard All That Before)
03 Step Back In Time
04 Never Too Late
05 Word Is Out
06 Hand On Your Heart
07 Better The Devil You Know
08 I Should Be So Lucky
09 Wouldn't Change A Thing
10 Finer Feelings

11 Got To Be Certain
12 Celebration
13 It's No Secret
14 Give Me Just A Little More Time
15 Je Ne Sais Pas Pourqoui
16 Tears On My Pillow
17 What Do I Have To Do
18 The Locomotion
19 Shocked
20 If You Were With Me Now

Posted by: J▼hnkm 5th September 2015, 07:26 PM

HARK at Reginald and I having 4/5 the same in our top 5's!!

Posted by: Regina 5th September 2015, 07:41 PM

PWL Kylie is one of the few things we agree (mostly) on.

Posted by: aeroco 5th September 2015, 08:23 PM

Don't think I have ever ranked her PWL singles!

01 Better the Devil You Know
02 Never Too Late
03 What Do I Have To Do
04 Shocked
05 Je Ne Sais Pas Pourqoui
06 Hand On Your Heart
07 Finer Feelings
08 Give Me Just A Little More Time
09 What Kind Of Fool
10 Step Back In Time

11 Word Is Out
12 Wouldn't Change A Thing
13 It's No Secret
14 Turn It Into Love
15 Got To Be Certain
16 I Should Be So Lucky
17 Celebration
18 The Locomotion
19 If You Were With Me Now
20 Tears On My Pillow

Posted by: mr_pmt 5th September 2015, 09:16 PM

Me neither!

1. Better The Devil You Know
2. What Do I Have To Do
3. Step Back In Time
4. Got To Be Certain
5. Never Too Late
6. Finer Feelings
7. Shocked
8. Word Is Out
9. Hand On Your Heart
10. Je Ne Sais Pas Pourquoi

11. What Kind Of Fool (Heard All That Before)
12. The Locomotion
13. I Should Be So Lucky
14. Turn It Into Love
15. It's No Secret
16. Give Me Just A Little More Time
17. Wouldn't Change A Thing
18. If You Were With Me Now
19. Celebration
20. Tears On My Pillow

Posted by: Dannyboy 5th September 2015, 10:25 PM

I find it hard to rank them so in no particular order -

Love
Better The Devil You Know
Finer Feelings
Got To Be Certain
If You Were With Me Now
Je Ne Sais Pas Pourqoui
Never Too Late
Step Back In Time
Shocked
Turn It Into Love
What Kind Of Fool (Heard All That Before)
Word Is Out
Wouldn't Change A Thing
What Do I Have To Do

Don't love but don't hate
Give Me Just A Little More Time
It's No Secret
I Should Be So Lucky

Never listen to
Hand On Your Heart
Tears On My Pillow
The Locomotion
Celebration

Posted by: Regina 6th September 2015, 03:12 PM

How anyone can place If You Were With Me Now so high is beyond me good thing you've been replaced as AF

Posted by: Dannyboy 6th September 2015, 05:57 PM

Ive always felt the "lets gets to it" era was very underrated overall

Posted by: Aphrodite 6th September 2015, 08:49 PM

I really like What Kind of Fool, it would be middle of the road in the rankings of my pwl singles.

Posted by: pippa 11th June 2019, 04:19 PM

Lets Get To It is my least remembered of the PWL work.
The only change of opinion i would have had relating to the era is Word Is Out.
Initially a terribly disappointing lead single but with time i appreciate and enjoy the song.
If You Were With Me Now i have always and still enjoy.
Give Me Just A Little More Time, pleasant as it is, i don't listen to it regularly.
Finer Feelings, i go through different motions with this song,sometimes i totally skip it and other times i let it play.

What Kind of Fool was a step back in time with its sound and direction but i would think PWL wanted it that way.
I do prefer What Kind of Fool to all the Lets Get To It singles.

Posted by: Monzo 11th June 2019, 05:17 PM

I loved WKOF back then, but it's not one of her PWL songs I still listen to a lot.

LGTI was kind of a strange album, at least when it comes to the singles. They were all different, but I think singles 2 & 3 were successful tries to save this era and wouldn't have released if WIO was a strong lead single. If WIO had worked, I guess Too Much Of A Good Thing and Right Here Right Now could have been follow-ups, Finer Feelings maybe, too.

Posted by: Dannyboy 11th June 2019, 05:24 PM

I love let’s get to it and what kind of fool, the last couple of years of PWL are so under appreciated for me especially what kind of fool, finer feels and if you were with me now

Posted by: pippa 11th June 2019, 06:16 PM

I agree with the exception of Finer Feelings. Kylie has acknowledged the song alot over the years hence showing its a song she likes.
If You Were With Me Now is ignored and What Kind Of Fool only gets a very small acknowledgement.
I would doubt Kylie had great love for What Kind Of Fool as it was everything she was trying to move away from.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 11th June 2019, 06:38 PM

I always hear this if I go to a Kylie themed night and go wild for it, it's a good sing-a-long.

Posted by: ___∆___ 11th June 2019, 08:50 PM

At the time I LOVED this - as a teen pop loving fan the LGTI era was all over the place for me so was totally there for the pure pop of this, I’m sure Kylie hated it but probably didn’t care too much as she knew her PWL days would soon be over.

Posted by: pippa 11th June 2019, 09:19 PM

For Kylie it fulfilled the contract.
At the time i loved it as it was the return of fun Kylie after Lets Get To It which was darker in sound and didn't offer the fun pop element.
Where In The World was another good but very underrated track from that time.
Kylie leaving PWL was seen as a big risk at that time and i believe some of her fans were worried.
Proved to be a very lucrative long term move.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th June 2019, 08:58 AM

I would have preferred where in the world as a single at the time to celebration, I still like that song but celebration is a better tour song.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 12th June 2019, 09:32 AM

'Celebration' just shouldn't have happened.

I can't believe it's been included on her new GH.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th June 2019, 09:48 AM

It should be a tour only song as she does it well on tour but other songs should have it made on the greatest hits ahead of it as I never hear of any fans of it as studio version or single.

Posted by: pippa 12th June 2019, 02:02 PM

Where in the World is a better addition to the original Greatest Hits than NYC is to the upcoming Greatest Hits.
With added songs on Greatest Hits releases, Ultimate Kylie provided the best in delivering both I Believe In You and Giving You Up.

Posted by: ___∆___ 12th June 2019, 07:08 PM

Agree with this - PWL were just chasing the final £££ from Kylie and trying to get a big hit - I’m sure the fact that GMJALMT was the highest charting single from LGTI probably led them to believe ‘Celebration’ would perform the same. I don’t hate the song but wouldn’t seek it out specifically either.

Posted by: pippa 12th June 2019, 08:56 PM

I dont hate Celebration either.
I think there was a pun to the choice as it was a celebration of Kylie and PWL having worked good together and this was a celebration of that time (Greatest Hits)

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 12th June 2019, 10:38 PM

I like celebration live but the studio version is flat. I found it it a disappointing final pwl single as it felt rushed and a just cheap cover version.

Posted by: ___∆___ 13th June 2019, 07:44 PM

Even though it’s not a fan favourite and hasn’t aged well I’m surprised ‘Celebration’ didn’t do better.

It’s a well known song and also total pop - the GH reached #1 so there was still decent interest in Kylie after the underperformance of LGTI, also Kylie promoted ‘Celebration’ decently (She performed it on the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party - The teen Brit Awards of it’s day) so the fact it only just scraped Top 20 is surprising.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th June 2019, 12:53 AM

At the time I thought it would do well but can see why it didnt.

Posted by: Tawdry Hepburn 14th June 2019, 09:42 AM

I think it got what it deserved.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th June 2019, 10:00 AM

Has it done much on streaming?

Posted by: ___∆___ 14th June 2019, 12:00 PM

Not in her Top 100 on Spotify so largely forgotten by the fans and GP.

Posted by: pippa 14th June 2019, 01:13 PM

The song is not popular on any avenue.
I sometimes query how much the record companies or artists know how fans feel about particular songs.
If this was taken into consideration Celebration would not be making it onto Greatest Hits releases by Kylie.
Financially i would think it would be better to have a Kylie original on the album ahead of a cover version too.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 14th June 2019, 08:50 PM

It sold better than a good few of her singles to be fair to it.