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 Dec 14 2019, 03:18 PM
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 #38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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The date of the next General Election (not another one!) is currently set as Thursday 2 May 2024 but we all know that the Fixed-term Parliaments Act is likely to be repealed so don't expect that to be the ACTUAL date.
In the meantime, please continue to post and discuss the latest Opinion Polls here. |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:25 PM
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 Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Dec 14 2019, 03:18 PM)  The date of the next General Election (not another one!) is currently set as Thursday 2 May 2024 but we all know that the Fixed-term Parliaments Act is likely to be repealed Did we?  :
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Dec 14 2019, 03:28 PM
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#38BBE0 otherwise known as 'sky blue'
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 14 2019, 03:25 PM) Did we? :It was in the Conservative manifesto. Along with a commitment to bring in voter ID ( |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:33 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Doctor Blind @ Dec 14 2019, 03:28 PM) It was in the Conservative manifesto. Along with a commitment to bring in voter ID ( Surely it would only suppress anti-tory voting if people were illegally living here/registered?
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Dec 14 2019, 03:37 PM
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Unless the Tories do away with the five-year term limit, I suspect the next election will indeed be May 2024 or, possibly June that year. They avoided an NHS crisis in this election; they won't want to risk the possibility of one happening in the middle of a winter 2024/5 campaign.
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Dec 14 2019, 03:41 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 14 2019, 03:33 PM) Surely it would only suppress anti-tory voting if people were illegally living here/registered? Eh? What sort of person is least likely to have a passport or driving licence? How about people in places like inner London? People who can't afford to go abroad and don't see the need for a car. How many of those people vote Tory? As we've said before, there is no evidence that the lack of insistence on voter ID is a problem. This is a typical populist trick that sounds reasonable but, in reality, is deliberately aimed at helping one party. You have accused Labour of wanting to lower the voting age because they expect to benefit rom it. Why don't you think the same about this? |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:41 PM
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Voter ID systems, no matter their thoroughness, always manage to disenfranchise a number of voters and putting up hurdles for others to vote. Those affected are more likely to be poorer, left-wing voters based on standard political demographics.
All in all, being a massive hammer to squash the tiny pinhead of voter fraud. ~ Anyway, I am looking forward to the first batch of opinion polls. New reality, time to extrapolate. And I also expect May 2024, barring a constitutional crisis that also happens to involve a deadly split of the Conservative party (hey, one can dream). May is supposed to be traditional, they'll want tradition. |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:44 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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Northern Ireland has had voter ID for my entire enfranchised life (and a long time before that), so for me it's just part and parcel of the democratic process. Although if you're not used to being asked for proof of ID before and then asked to provide it, I can imagine it being annoying.
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Dec 14 2019, 03:45 PM
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Howdy, disco citizens
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 14 2019, 04:41 PM) Eh? What sort of person is least likely to have a passport or driving licence? How about people in places like inner London? People who can't afford to go abroad and don't see the need for a car. How many of those people vote Tory? Since about 2 days ago, quite a lot of them, apparently. |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:51 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 14 2019, 03:41 PM) Eh? What sort of person is least likely to have a passport or driving licence? How about people in places like inner London? People who can't afford to go abroad and don't see the need for a car. How many of those people vote Tory? *I* don't have a passport or driving licence... |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(Brett-Butler @ Dec 14 2019, 03:45 PM) Since about 2 days ago, quite a lot of them, apparently. How many inner London sets did the Tories gain? I make it none. |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:54 PM
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Finally, you *admit* you vote Tory!
  
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Dec 14 2019, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 14 2019, 03:51 PM) *I* don't have a passport or driving licence... You can't disprove a generalisation with a single counter-example. |
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Dec 14 2019, 03:58 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Santa Klaus @ Dec 14 2019, 03:54 PM) Finally, you *admit* you vote Tory! non sequitur. 
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Dec 14 2019, 03:59 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 14 2019, 03:55 PM) You can't disprove a generalisation with a single counter-example. You are all assuming I voted Tory, whereas I actually chose to spoil my ballot paper. |
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Dec 14 2019, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 14 2019, 03:37 PM) Unless the Tories do away with the five-year term limit, I suspect the next election will indeed be May 2024 or, possibly June that year. They avoided an NHS crisis in this election; they won't want to risk the possibility of one happening in the middle of a winter 2024/5 campaign. Am sure Boris will want to go the full term if possible and then hope for a second one too. A 10 year PM? |
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Dec 14 2019, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 14 2019, 03:41 PM) Eh? What sort of person is least likely to have a passport or driving licence? How about people in places like inner London? People who can't afford to go abroad and don't see the need for a car. How many of those people vote Tory? ME! I don't have either any more. Used to have but both expired and didn't bother to renew them. I never go away anyway. I have a Citizencard for ID. Got that when I found I needed ID to sort my mum's estate and do Probate when she died. They accepted it. Not sure about getting my 60+ Oystercard soon as it says only passport and DL acceptable as proof of ID. You get that a lot in fact. Have to ring TFL. This post has been edited by Crazy Chris-tmas: Dec 15 2019, 04:25 PM |
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Dec 14 2019, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 14 2019, 03:59 PM) You are all assuming I voted Tory, whereas I actually chose to spoil my ballot paper. Eh? How does that address my point? I didn't say anything about how you voted. |
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Dec 14 2019, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(vidsanta @ Dec 14 2019, 03:59 PM) You are all assuming I voted Tory, whereas I actually chose to spoil my ballot paper. Really Vid? Yeah remember now you told me in a PM. Was quite surprised. |
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Dec 14 2019, 04:35 PM
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Paul Hyett
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QUOTE(Suedehead2 @ Dec 14 2019, 04:29 PM) Eh? How does that address my point? I didn't say anything about how you voted. True, but I thought I should clear up any misconception. |
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