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 4 hours ago
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 stick my flag in the dirt, watch it blow
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Well that's 70 minutes of my life I'm never getting back - it's not changing my vote obviously but honestly I think the 'who won the debate' poll coming out near 50/50 is fair and with a gun to my head I probably would say Rishi "won" the debate for what it's worth. He obviously came in with the plan of hammering home 'Labour will increase everyone's taxes by £2,000' and whether or not that's total bollocks, I don't think Starmer did a good enough job refuting that and that'll probably scare some people off. Too many platitudes and non-answers on both sides especially near the start (what did I expect?) Starmer did get better and had a few good moments here and there later on but disappointing overall. Moderation was horrible as well (what did I expect? [2])
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 The owls are not what they seem
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Labour really need to start revealing more policies and why they are the change needed, I know the polls mean they can take their time and their process is a bit different, but we've barely heard from them so far apart from the Diane Abbott scandal and the morning news seemingly has a new desperate, culture war inflamed Tory policy every day ('protection' of biological sex in the Equality Act even though it already is, capping migrant visas etc). I didn't watch the debate as I can't handle a whole hour of dancing around questions and not answering them but seems Starmer may have struggled because of this x
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WINTER IS COMING
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QUOTE(Smint @ 4th June 2024, 09:22 PM)  YouGov poll said Sunak won by 51/49. Didn't watch it myself but shows Starmer needs a bit of work getting his points across about why vote Labour. This also shows why it’s counter productive for people to vote for other parties and ignore voting for Labour as “they’ll win” such as Owen Jones and the ilk. Nobody is under any illusion that a Starmer government will make things better immediately, but it will be better than the Tories. And we will have capable politicians in offices of the State. Not seen anything to do with the debate and tbh I think there’s so much time to go it doesn’t really matter. But if people really want change then no matter what your beliefs, you’re far more likely to get it under a Labour government than a Tory one with the current politics. |
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3 hours ago
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 Shakin Stevens
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Yeh it’s not that Starmer did poorly Sunak was able to spout more nonsense about taxes increasing repeatedly which will break through to the idiots who don’t know much because it’s hard to explain in simple ways to the people at home why it’s untrue. I also cringed with Starmer said he would indeed send people to Rwanda if it was proven to work 🙄 making him look shifty.
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2 hours ago
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 Break the tension
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It begs the question, was it really wise of Starmer to agree to this debate if he was bound by how much he could reveal policy-wise?
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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It's the old perfumed shit.
The tories are the stinking dog shit. Labour under Starmer is the shit who's foul odour is well disguised by sweet smelling perfume. Certainly the preferable of the two if you had to have one sat in your house. But both are essentially still shit. I will be expressing my vote through the medium of a spoiled ballet paper. It won't matter in real terms, live in a seat that's been safe Labour for donkeys years, but will have made my opinion noted. |
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