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Posted by: Maurice! 23rd September 2019, 10:26 AM



RESULTS:

2.455 - 78. Half of Me GERI HALLIWELL
3.977 - 77. I Want Candy MELANIE C
4.682 - 76. Angels in Chains GERI HALLIWELL
4.857 - 75. Cool as You MELANIE C
4.932 - 74. Today MEL B
5.014 - 73. Word Up MEL B
5.182 - 72. I Know Him So Well MELANIE C
5.204 - 71. Lullaby MEL B
5.333 - 70. Melt MELANIE C
5.364 - 69. Desire GERI HALLIWELL
5.400 - 68. Hold On MELANIE C
5.407 - 67. We're Not Gonna Sleep Tonight EMMA BUNTON
5.409 - 66. Better Alone MELANIE C
5.432 - 65. Understand MELANIE C
5.455 - 64. This Time MELANIE C
5.486 - 63. Goin' Down MELANIE C
5.568 - 62. You're All I Need to Get By EMMA BUNTON
5.685 - 61. A Mind Of Its Own VICTORIA BECKHAM
5.722 - 60. Scream If You Wanna Go Faster GERI HALLIWELL
5.815 - 59. Tell Me MEL B
5.870 - 58. Calling GERI HALLIWELL
5.889 - 57. Yeh Yeh Yeh MELANIE C
5.944 - 56. If That Were Me MELANIE C
6.056 - 55. Lift Me Up GERI HALLIWELL
6.114 - 54. Numb MELANIE C
6.136 - 53. Rock Me MELANIE C
6.143 - 52. Let There Be Love MELANIE C
6.241 - 51. Here It Comes Again MELANIE C
6.318 - 50. Carolyna MELANIE C
6.341 - 49. The Moment You Believe MELANIE C
6.370 - 48. Take My Breath Away EMMA BUNTON
6.407 - 47. Ride It GERI HALLIWELL
6.431 - 46. What I Am EMMA BUNTON
6.432 - 45. First Day of My Life MELANIE C
6.472 - 44. I Want You Back MEL B
6.574 - 43. Not Such an Innocent Girl VICTORIA BECKHAM
6.593 - 42. Bag It Up GERI HALLIWELL
6.600 - 41. Room for Love MELANIE C
6.611 - 40. Mama SPICE GIRLS
6.648 - 39. On the Horizon MELANIE C
6.727 - 38. Headlines (Friendship Never Ends) SPICE GIRLS
6.741 - 37. Crickets Sing for Anamaria EMMA BUNTON
6.750 - 36. Dear Life MELANIE C
6.759 - 35. It's Raining Men GERI HALLIWELL
6.773 - 34. Downtown EMMA BUNTON
6.833 - 33. Let Love Lead the Way SPICE GIRLS
7.019 - 32. Out of Your Mind VICTORIA BECKHAM
7.068 - 31. Next Best Superstar MELANIE C
7.091 - 30. For Once In My Life MEL B
7.119 - 29. Weak MELANIE C
7.185 - 28. I'll Be There EMMA BUNTON
7.296 - 27. Feels So Good MEL B
7.407 - 26. This Groove VICTORIA BECKHAM
7.444 - 25. Look At Me GERI HALLIWELL (0 '11' scores)
7.444 - 24. Free Me EMMA BUNTON (1 '11' score)
7.500 - 23. All I Need to Know EMMA BUNTON
7.659 - 22. Baby Please Don't Stop EMMA BUNTON
7.690 - 21. Loving You MELANIE C
7.741 - 20. Let Your Head Go VICTORIA BECKHAM
8.042 - 19. Too Much SPICE GIRLS (11 '10' scores)
8.042 - 18. Northern Star MELANIE C (12 '10' scores)
8.056 - 17. Mi Chico Latino GERI HALLIWELL
8.159 - 16. Think About It MELANIE C
8.208 - 15. When You're Gone MELANIE C
8.375 - 14. Anymore MELANIE C
8.426 - 13. What Took You So Long? EMMA BUNTON
8.486 - 12. Wannabe SPICE GIRLS (0 '11' scores)
8.486 - 11. Stop SPICE GIRLS (1 '11' score)
8.685 - 10. Holler SPICE GIRLS
8.778 - 09. Goodbye SPICE GIRLS
8.808 - 08. Maybe EMMA BUNTON
8.870 - 07. I Turn to You MELANIE C
9.000 - 06. Say You''ll Be There SPICE GIRLS
9.042 - 05. Who Do You Think You Are SPICE GIRLS
9.093 - 04. Never Be the Same Again MELANIE C
9.389 - 03. Spice Up Your Life SPICE GIRLS
9.431 - 02. 2 Become 1 SPICE GIRLS
9.819 - 01. Viva Forever SPICE GIRLS


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After weeks of voting it's finally time for the results!
Who is gonna win it this year? And which song is gonna be last?
Check out from tonight as results will be coming!

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 23rd September 2019, 11:01 AM

Oh MY!!

Hollier, Not Such an Innocent Girl and Out of Your Mind to win! Once In My Life to do really well! They really should cover that and release it as a single after W.O.M.A.N, do a full dance-pop album aka Madonna.

Posted by: Babyboy 23rd September 2019, 04:11 PM

Yay!

Posted by: Mr.X 23rd September 2019, 06:40 PM

QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 23 2019, 12:01 PM) *
Oh MY!!

Hollier, Not Such an Innocent Girl and Out of Your Mind to win! Once In My Life to do really well! They really should cover that and release it as a single after W.O.M.A.N, do a full dance-pop album aka Madonna.


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Posted by: Jay ☆ 23rd September 2019, 06:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ73Kpj7sUwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URp6GAJ4sGkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmT2aSEayWQ
Click artwork to view the music videos!

2.455 - 78. Half of Me GERI HALLIWELL
3.977 - 77. I Want Candy MELANIE C
4.682 - 76. Angels in Chains GERI HALLIWELL


Geri wins the wooden spoon with her 2013 single Half of Me! It was only released in Australia, New Zealand and Vietnam, and charted at a mere #281 in Australia. Its release coincided with her stint as a judge on Australia's Got Talent. Geri described the song as a mix of "love, hope and optimism, with a splash of humour".

Also out at this early stage is Melanie C's 2007 cover version of I Want Candy, which was the second single from her fourth album This Time (first single in some territories, including the UK). Its music video was something of a success on YouTube, reaching #1 in the most viewed chart with over 200,000 views in its first day of release. It became a Top 10 hit in Italy & Denmark, but fared less well in the UK at #24.

Poor Geri sees her two most recent singles crash out in this section! Angels in Chains was released in 2017 as a tribute to George Michael, who sadly passed away in 2016 - she had had a close friendship with him since the late 90s. Unfortunately the single failed to make the UK Top 100, and to date it remains her final solo single.

Posted by: Jade 23rd September 2019, 06:45 PM

Oops sorry for not getting round to voting in the 2005-2019 round </3 for what it's worth, 'Half Of Me' would've almost certainly got a -1 from me, so bad laugh.gif

Posted by: Maurice! 23rd September 2019, 06:50 PM

Poor Joseph having his favorite Geri song out first.

Posted by: JosephStyles 23rd September 2019, 07:04 PM

it's not my fave xx

Half of Me IS a bop tho and it's underrated x

Posted by: Jay ☆ 23rd September 2019, 07:12 PM

Half of Me got what it deserved angel.gif It's easily my least favourite solo single (unless we count the incredibly dire Cosmic Shower, which we didn't include in this rate kink.gif )

Posted by: Maurice! 23rd September 2019, 07:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=399MjnF1S84https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=544ZSoEr9rchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEUno4QEQFQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eO0hhfq5RMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9otk9CXhg

4.857 - 75. Cool as You MELANIE C
4.932 - 74. Today MEL B
5.014 - 73. Word Up MEL B
5.182 - 72. I Know Him So Well MELANIE C
5.204 - 71. Lullaby MEL B


First out in this bunch is Cool As You. Melanie C collaborated with Slovakian singer-songwriter Peter Aristone on this collaboration back in 2014. There is not much to say about this song which kinda says it all.

Also out is Mel B's Today which was recorded in her kitchen; can you believe it? Released on 13 June 2005 in the United Kingdom, it entered and peaked at #41, staying in the Top 100 for two weeks.

Word Up was Mel B's (or Melanie G's x) second single, released in June 1999! The cover of Cameo's 1980s hit charted at #13 in the UK, making it the first Spice related single to miss the Top 10. It didn't end up being included on Mel's debut album Hot (apart from as a Japanese bonus track!).

The next song out is I Know Him So Well by Melanie C featuring Emma Bunton. It was the first time that two Spice Girls had worked together since the Return of the Spice Girls tour. The song was the first single to be taken from Melanie C's musical theatre-inspired and sixth studio album Stages, and it didn't chart in the Top 100.

The last one of this bunch is Mel B's Lullaby. It was released on 4 June 2001 and peaked at number 13 on the UK Singles Chart, selling 38,898 copies as of 2009. The music video and single cover feature her daughter Phoenix Chi Gulzar.

Posted by: JosephStyles 23rd September 2019, 07:56 PM

No major losses there in particular! All songs I quite enjoy but none are essential.

Posted by: Jade 23rd September 2019, 07:57 PM

'Word Up' is so naff, glad my two least favourites are out now laugh.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 23rd September 2019, 08:54 PM

The definitive version of Word Up in music history is Melanie G's version, and that's the tea on that x

Eek at half of Mel B's singles out before the Top 70! drama.gif

Posted by: Mr.X 23rd September 2019, 10:36 PM

You lot WRONGED Word Up and you deserve bad things for this! It's a perfect single.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 24th September 2019, 10:10 AM

Everything is correct so far, but poor Word Up by Mel B sad.gif I Want Candy woulda been last if Other Half of Me exists, but rhat is definitely the worst Spice song ever, closely followed by Candy eith a Mexican Mariarqui band beat.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 24th September 2019, 10:11 AM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Sep 23 2019, 09:54 PM) *
The definitive version of Word Up in music history is Melanie G's version, and that's the tea on that x

Eek at half of Mel B's singles out before the Top 70! drama.gif


THIS!!!

It and her video for it are BRILLIANT!

Oh I love Today too sad.gif

Posted by: Maurice! 24th September 2019, 03:08 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0RBIkWpyd8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLFuJW5UvEQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtRfecRw4Qghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vhbQmOj--Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEgxw9334ng

5.333 - 70. Melt MELANIE C
5.364 - 69. Desire GERI HALLIWELL
5.400 - 68. Hold On MELANIE C
5.407 - 67. We're Not Gonna Sleep Tonight EMMA BUNTON
5.409 - 66. Better Alone MELANIE C


Starting off the Top 70 is Melanie C's Melt. It was released as the third and final single from her second solo album, Reason. The song was released as a double A-side with "Yeh Yeh Yeh" in the United Kingdom and entered the UK Chart at #27. It was the last single from Melanie before she was dropped by Virgin. For me the other A-side Yeh Yeh Yeh was far more superior than this track.

In 69th we have Geri's Desire. The song was released on 30 May 2005 as the Passion album's second and final single. It peaked at number 22 on the UK Singles Chart. Desire metaphorically describes the persona as a feline with sexual desires. Despite the sexy video it didn't turn me exactly straight lol.

Melanie C's Hold On, a duet with Alexis Francis, charted at 68 in this chart - that's higher than any other chart, because according to Wikipedia it didn't chart anywhere in the world. It was released on the 17th March 2017 as the 3rd single of Version Of Me.

At 67 we have Emma's We're Not Gonna Sleep Tonight. Despite being a very summery track it was released on the 10th of December 2001. This release date might have been the reason why it wasn't the success she might have hoped it would be - it debuted and peaked at #20 in the UK singles Chart. At that time it was considered a flop for a solo Spice single; at that point in time it was the lowest singles chart position a Spice Girl had achieved.

We're ending this bunch with Melanie C's Better Alone at 66. It was released as the second single from her third album Beautiful Intentions on the 1st of August 2005. The song is a piano-backed ballad which covers themes such as independence and emancipation from a stifling relationship. Some people think it's her answer to being dropped by Virgin, others think it's about her not wanting to reunite with the other Spice Girls at the time. It was re-released in Germany, Austria and Switzerland in 2006 after the huge success of First Day of My Life, accompanied with a new video filmed in Germany.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 24th September 2019, 04:29 PM

Desire is so underrated! cry.gif I'm pretty sure the fan base were mostly enjoying it until it charted at #22 lol. Same for We're Not Gonna Sleep Tonight really, it's a nice bop, I don't get what's supposedly terrible about it!

None of the Melanie C songs here are amongst her best. I'll always be a bit bewildered by Better Alone being chosen as the second single. Presumably Melanie feared a bad chart position in the UK considering she deliberately made it chart eligible... but then following First Day of My Life she/the label considered it worthwhile to film a second video and push it in Europe. drama.gif

Posted by: vibe 24th September 2019, 05:41 PM

Word Up is so underrated . Her voice totally suits the song ! And that amazing video !!

Half of me deserves to be last !! Total shite !!

Posted by: Jade 24th September 2019, 05:45 PM

I agree with Jay that 'Desire' is underrated! One of my favourite Geri singles ohmy.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles 24th September 2019, 05:47 PM

We're Not Gonna Sleep Tonight deserves SO MUCH MORE you HEATHENS

Desire and Better Alone are great from that section too!

Posted by: pippa 24th September 2019, 06:57 PM

With Mel C having so many songs in here it was expected some of her work would be eliminated early.
Better Alone should be higher from what we have seen to date.



Posted by: vibe 24th September 2019, 08:35 PM

Better Alone is me least fav Mel C single .

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 25th September 2019, 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 23 2019, 07:40 PM) *
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What?

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 25th September 2019, 10:48 AM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Sep 24 2019, 06:47 PM) *
We're Not Gonna Sleep Tonight deserves SO MUCH MORE you HEATHENS


Does it though?

Posted by: SamJudd 25th September 2019, 01:48 PM

Never keen on 'We're Not Gonna Sleep Tonight', preferred the album version, as the single mix was a little bland and trying too hard to be sexy. The release date definitely killed any chance for this song, but I doubt it would have done any better if released on a different a month before. It was a pretty weak single choice & 'High On Love' or 'A Girl Like Me' would have been better selections.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 25th September 2019, 02:42 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2xoW1_GMM8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4fa_ytiIaIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4fa_ytiIaIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=838pa_rjxFQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGZj6lWlzu8

5.432 - 65. Understand MELANIE C
5.455 - 64. This Time MELANIE C
5.486 - 63. Goin' Down MELANIE C
5.568 - 62. You're All I Need to Get By EMMA BUNTON
5.685 - 61. A Mind of Its Own VICTORIA BECKHAM


A few more Melanie C singles depart in the early stages of the results. This Time & Understand are both taken from her fourth album, This Time (released in 2007). The title track came out in October of that year, just a few weeks in advance of the Spice Girls' Return of the Spice Girls tour. Unfortunately the hype of the girls being back together did little for the fortunes of this song, which entered and peaked at a lowly #94 in the UK - the first Spice related single to miss the Top 75. Understand was exclusively released in Canada in 2008, but didn't pick up much traction there.

The most notable loss for Melanie C here is her debut solo release Goin' Down! The rock/grunge flavoured track is a world away from the Spice Girls' music, and was certainly a bold statement to launch her solo career. It reached #4 in the UK, but stayed in the Top 40 for just three weeks. 20 years on from its release and it proves as divisive as ever - it received 3 '-1' scores, but also 2 '10's!

Emma's cover of the soulful You're All I Need to Get By came out in May of this year. It's taken from her most recent album My Happy Place. Emma's partner Jade Jones joins her on this 60s track which is originally by Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell.

The first Victoria single to bow out is A Mind of Its Own, which was the second and last release from her self-titled debut album. It reached #6 in the UK in February 2002, that being the same peak as her previous release Not Such an Innocent Girl. The media were always extra harsh on Victoria, and both singles were deemed to have been failures for her. Ultimately Victoria parted ways with Virgin Records in the summer of 2002. #annemarie

Posted by: jakewild 25th September 2019, 02:44 PM

the first vicky single only bowing out now?? queen

(loving the commentary btw guys)

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 25th September 2019, 03:07 PM

SHOULD JAVE DONE MUCH BETTER

HOW DARE YOU SHADE QUEEN V THIS WAY?!

Posted by: JosephStyles 25th September 2019, 03:14 PM

QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 25 2019, 11:48 AM) *
Does it though?

Yes bitch x

This Time is absolutely gorgeous, seeing it below Goin' Down is OFFENSIVE. Y'all need some Melanie C education x

Posted by: Maurice! 25th September 2019, 03:19 PM

I love Going Down so kinda sad to see it go so early.

Posted by: Mr.X 25th September 2019, 03:25 PM

You're All I Need to Get By gets a bad rep here because it was a flop. It's a nice tune, much better than a lot of singles that are still in the run!

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 25th September 2019, 04:10 PM

Goin' Fown is as good as any 90s indie bop and should be TOP Q0 YOU TROGLODYTES.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 25th September 2019, 05:19 PM

QUOTE(jakewild @ Sep 25 2019, 03:44 PM) *
the first vicky single only bowing out now?? queen

(loving the commentary btw guys)

Thank you Jake wub.gif

Next section coming tomorrow!

Posted by: Spiceboy 25th September 2019, 08:45 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Sep 25 2019, 04:14 PM) *
Yes bitch x

This Time is absolutely gorgeous, seeing it below Goin' Down is OFFENSIVE. Y'all need some Melanie C education x



Nope Going Down is actually interesting, This Time (as much as I love Melanie) is boring drivel. I'm more bothered about Understand though, that is such a gorgeous track, the opening chords wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 25th September 2019, 10:59 PM

I'm not a big fan of goin down, many of her singles which performed way less are better.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 26th September 2019, 10:25 AM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Sep 25 2019, 09:45 PM) *
Nope Going Down is actually interesting, This Time (as much as I love Melanie) is boring drivel. I'm more bothered about Understand though, that is such a gorgeous track, the opening chords wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif


TNID!!!!! cheer.gif

Going Down is one of the best, most interesting Spice songs. If Oasis relwased it, it would be a classic.

Posted by: vibe 26th September 2019, 12:32 PM

Have you haters seen a solo Melanie C show live ? If you have wyou will fall in love with GOIN DOWN !!!

It is amazing

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 26th September 2019, 12:53 PM

THIS!!If Oasis released Going Down, it would be at least a million sellee, with the indie fan boys going on about how genius it is. As it is, a Spice Girl released ir, and so the indie boys didn't even give it the time of day

Posted by: Mr.X 26th September 2019, 01:06 PM

Sorry kids but Goin' Down is a lame attempt a being 'rock'. It felt forced and desperate not just because of the music (and some of the lyrics) but the whole video and promo attached to it.

Many artists have successfully transition between pop and rock in really interesting and intelligent ways. Goin' Down was neither, unfortunately. It was a pop star trying to distancing herself from her pop roots rather than it being an artist who wanted to explore how her sound worked well with rock.

Having said that, there are some nice attempts at that in Northern Star, mainly with Suddenly Monday, Gaga and Northern Star itself which has some soft-rock nuances to it. But Goin Down felt wrong and it is still bad today...

Posted by: Maurice! 26th September 2019, 01:24 PM

















https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl0GDZIntB0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtW13ZtSdgwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu4a_7k38Bchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL07-WxN-c8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_P6G0E7oE

5.722 - 60. Scream If You Wanna Go Faster GERI HALLIWELL
5.815 - 59. Tell Me MEL B
5.870 - 58. Calling GERI HALLIWELL
5.889 - 57. Yeh Yeh Yeh MELANIE C
5.944 - 56. If That Were Me MELANIE C


At #60 we have the fierce pop track Scream If You Wanna Go Faster from Geri. It was released on 30 July 2001 as the second single from the album with the same name. Its peak position was #8 on the official UK chart. It received positive reviews by music critics, who complimented the singer's new style. Jon O'Brien from Billboard named it the 15th best solo single from a Spice Girl, and elaborated that the song "is perhaps her most under-rated single", and noted its "twangy surf-rock guitars, swirling Hammond organs and unabashedly nonsensical lyrics.

The next song at #59 is Mel B's Tell Me. It was released on the 25th September 2000 and debuted and peaked at #4, selling 109,000 copies by 2017. The song is about her former husband Jimmy Gulzar. The song might be best known for the following lyric ''And all you loved was Mel B's money''. Gulzar wasn't her only husband who loved her money, we now know that 19 years later.

At #58 we have the 3rd single from Geri Halliwell's album Scream If You Wanna Go Faster, Calling. It was released on the 26th of November 2001 and debuted and peaked at #7 in the UK single chart. In certain regions, the song was released in a French version, called "Au Nom De L'Amour. It was Geri's favourite track on the album and was praised by George Michael.

Melanie C's Yeh Yeh Yeh is at #57. It was the third and final single from her second solo album Reason. It debuted and charted at #27 in the UK Chart.
It was a double a-side with Melt and as I said this song is the superior song of the two in my opinion. After this single Melanie was dropped by Virgin.

Closing this round of results is another Melanie C song from her debut album Northern Star, If That Were Me. It was released on the 27th November 2000, only a few weeks after the Spice Girls album Forever was released, and debuted and peaked at #18 in UK singles chart. The lyric 'I couldn't live without my phone / But you don't even have a home' gave fans ideas to make some hilarious memes.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 26th September 2019, 02:06 PM

Would Tell Me have been no.1 on an easier week? A great song and a huge hit in 2001! Shame it came so low here :/

Scream could easily have been a Spice song! Their third album sucked as she was the mastermind behind their singles. Scream and a bunch of others, Mi Chico Latino, etc, prove this.

Yeh Yeh Yeh higher than Going Down?! It should have been the first single from the album, but the lyrics are awful and it was a huge step down.

The lyric 'I couldn't live without my phone / But you don't even have a home' gave fans ideas to make some hilarious memes.

Omfg at those lyrics rotf.gif Even as kids we cringed and laughed at them!!

Posted by: Mr.X 26th September 2019, 02:17 PM

What the hell is going on with this rate lol

Tell Me should be Top 20 here, at the very least!

Yeh Yeh Yeh had a great video but DAMN that was a bad song lol Not only the chorus is lame but the lyrics are just meh

I dont think I have listened to any of the others since they were released... Scream and If THat Were Me are ok album tracks, hardly single material.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 26th September 2019, 02:22 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 26 2019, 02:06 PM) *
Sorry kids but Goin' Down is a lame attempt a being 'rock'. It felt forced and desperate not just because of the music (and some of the lyrics) but the whole video and promo attached to it.

Many artists have successfully transition between pop and rock in really interesting and intelligent ways. Goin' Down was neither, unfortunately. It was a pop star trying to distancing herself from her pop roots rather than it being an artist who wanted to explore how her sound worked well with rock.

Having said that, there are some nice attempts at that in Northern Star, mainly with Suddenly Monday, Gaga and Northern Star itself which has some soft-rock nuances to it. But Goin Down felt wrong and it is still bad today...


All but the Northern Star bit is WROOONG TOTALLY WROOONG!!

It is an authetic rock hit. Your issue is a pop star made it. That's it. That's yout bias. We recognise the song as being fantastic, regardless of who madw it and what their musical history was prior to it!

Posted by: Mr.X 26th September 2019, 02:41 PM

QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 26 2019, 03:22 PM) *
All but the Northern Star bit is WROOONG TOTALLY WROOONG!!

It is an authetic rock hit. Your issue is a pop star made it. That's it. That's yout bias. We recognise the song as being fantastic, regardless of who madw it and what their musical history was prior to it!


It's not bias. I recognise that Mel C has done some good rock music. Goin' Down isn't that blink.gif It just screams 'try too hard' rather than it being an authentic piece of work...

Posted by: Jay ☆ 26th September 2019, 02:50 PM

Tell Me is far too low for my liking, but 12 out of 27 voters considered it as being a 5 or less - it even received a -1 score. sad.gif

Not too fussed about the Geri singles out in this section. Scream is probably my least favourite Geri single from her 1999-2005 run tbh, and Calling would be my second least favourite!

I like both of the Melanie songs... Yeh Yeh Yeh was definitely a highlight track from Reason and shouldn't have been left that late in the album campaign. I've always had a soft spot for If That Were Me, it just sounds really pleasant. Even though some of the lyrics are a bit on the nose, I appreciate the sentiment of them.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 26th September 2019, 02:57 PM

Would Tell Me have got to no.q on another week Jer?

Posted by: Jay ☆ 26th September 2019, 03:16 PM

It had first week sales of nearly 45,000, which was great, but not enough to have been #1 in the majority of weeks in 2000! Only the first two weeks of January were lower, but low January sales was typical.

Week Ending 07th October 2000
1- AGAINST ALL ODDS- Mariah Carey & Westlife (78,500)
2- KERNKRAFT 2000- Zombie Nation (55,000)
3- BODY GROOVE- Architechs Ft Nena (53,000)
4- TELL ME- Mel B (45,000)
5- LADY (HEAR ME TONIGHT)- Modjo (34,000)*
6- I’M OUTTA LOVE- Anastacia (29,000)*
7- MOST GIRLS- Pink (26,000)*
8- AIN’T NO STOPPING US- DJ Luck & MC Neat (25,000)*
9- OVERLOAD- Sugababes (24,000)*
10- SKY- Sonique (22,000)*


If Tell Me had been released two weeks later it would have been #3 with those sales. Three weeks later it would have got to #2! -

Week Ending 28th October 2000
1- STOMP- Steps (48,250)
2- WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?- Ba-Ha Men (32,000)
3- BEAUTIFUL DAY- U2 (28,000)*
4- KIDS- Robbie Williams & Kylie Minogue (25,000)*
5- BODY II BODY- Samantha Mumba (23,000)*
6- SILENCE (REMIX)- Delierium Ft Sarah McLachlan (20,000)*
7- BLACK COFFEE- All Saints (18,000)*
8- BODY GROOVE- Architechs Ft Nana (18,000)*
9- SUNSET (BIRD OF PREY)- Fatboy Slim (17,000)*
10- MUSIC IS MY RADAR- Blur (17,000)*

Posted by: Mr.X 26th September 2019, 05:09 PM

Such a shame how that was handled though. I always felt that had she released earlier in the year she would have had much more success overall. Tell Me was a total Spring/Summer record ah

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 26th September 2019, 05:55 PM

It really was sad.gif

Ooh Jay with those RECEIPTS!!

I think had she released v Steps, it might have got to no.1 in a chart battle thanks to the publicity. Why she released against Westshite I do not know.

Posted by: SamJudd 26th September 2019, 06:21 PM

Geri Halliwell - Scream If U Wanna Go Faster - Never been keen on this, I mean its okay enough and is one of the better tracks on the album, shame that 'Circles Round The Moon' didn't get a release.

Mel B - Tell Me - Again another MEH moment for me, Mel B's solo stuff has always been my least fave out of the solo Spice's & her debut album just wasn't very good (apart from about 1 or 2 tracks), this just feels like she was trying too hard for that American R&B sound, and this just feels like a demo. I found that on the album she didn't play to her vocal strength's as well as the production which just didn't cut and on several of the tracks including this one, she strained her vocals too much and that's why her voice don't sound very good on several of the tracks. If the album was more in line with the lead 'I Want You Back' with production by Missy Elliot, then it would have been much better.

Geri Halliwell - Calling - This is a very nice song and Geri's voice sounds really good on this, a definite album highlight along with 'Love Is The Only Light'. Shame we didn't get 'CRTM' as the 4th single.

Melanie C - Yeh, Yeh, Yeh - The 5 month gap really killed this, but considering on how the previous 2 singles did 7-14, there was no-way this was gonna do any better anyway and if it got released a few months before then I predict that it would have probably ranked low top 20. Shame Mel C's UK success pretty much ended with her 2nd album & considering how great her debut was, but the 4 year gap between releases didn't help, plus the fact this and the album it came from sounded very dated and may have been more successful back in 2001 as opposed to 2003.

Melanie C - If That Were Me - Always found this a strange single choice & the awful lyrics didn't help an otherwise very beautiful song. Having this follow 2 chart toppers definitely wasn't a smart move. 'Suddenly Monday' or 'Feel The Sun' would have been far better & could have continued her top 10 streak.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 26th September 2019, 07:12 PM

I think Yeh Yeh Yeh was originally scheduled for an earlier release, but it was pushed back due to the injury she got during her participation on The Games. Melt was added to the release so she had something slow to perform that allowed her to sit down, so unfortunately Yeh Yeh Yeh was a bit neglected during the promotion. When the single was finally released there were some distributions issues (fans struggled to find the maxi single). So all in all it was a bit of a messy release!

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 26th September 2019, 07:35 PM

Feel The Sun? You must be having a laugh laugh.gif

4. Northern Star
5. Suddenly Monday
6. If That Were Me (if she was that desperate to release it)

Posted by: vibe 27th September 2019, 06:25 AM

Closer should have been the final single on NS !!

Posted by: Babyboy 27th September 2019, 09:31 AM

After I Turn To You is not easy to think a possible last single from the album.
NS has a lot of great song but not radio friendly if I think of Closer or Feel The Sun.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 27th September 2019, 11:07 AM

Feel The Sun is not radio friendly at all. It's an album track.

NS woulf have been the best.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 27th September 2019, 12:02 PM

I think If That Were Me served its purpose to close out the era! Even though the single didn’t set the chart alight, the Northern Star album did return to the Top 40 for 5 weeks during December 00/January 01, so it would have achieved some decent Christmas sales (and the album was over a year old at that point, so that was good going!). It was also higher in the chart than Forever at Christmas time.

It was nice that the single was for charity too!

Maybe an edit of Closer would have fared better, but I don’t believe was likely to have done amazingly well with any 5th single tbh. She did well to stretch the era out that long! None of the other group or solo eras reached 5 singles. (I suppose you could make a case for Hot, but I Want You Back was released 2 years in advance of it & Word Up didn’t end up being included...)

Posted by: Jay ☆ 27th September 2019, 03:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVp9P1-fBy8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXnylbTbgIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sWOOVed6tchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQmS2W9R2schttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT8m63PIN7E

6.056 - 55. Lift Me Up GERI HALLIWELL
6.114 - 54. Numb MELANIE C
6.136 - 53. Rock Me MELANIE C
6.143 - 52. Let There Be Love MELANIE C
6.241 - 51. Here It Comes Again MELANIE C


We've reached the songs that have managed average scores of 6+, but these unfortunate 5 songs have missed out on the Top 50!

Lift Me Up is Geri's lowest placed UK #1 single in the rate. It was released during a blaze of publicity in November 1999 - not only was Geri going head to head with her former bandmate Emma (who released What I Am in the same week), but there was also "are they/aren't they" romance rumours with Chris Evans. Lift Me Up sold an impressive 139,000 copies to enter at #1, while Emma had to make do with a #2 entry with respectable sales of 106,000. Choreography for Lift Me Up featured Geri using sign language.

We lose four more Melanie C songs in this section! 30 of her songs are included in this rate, and we've seen 15 of them depart already.

Numb, a collaboration with production duo Sons of Sonix, was released as a taster of what was to come from her 2016 album Version of Me. Melanie was eager to explore a more electro sound on the record. It's a bit of a bop! Five years prior to that, Rock Me served as the first song released from her 2011 album The Sea. It made the Top 40 in Germany, helped along by being the official theme song for German TV channel ZDF's coverage of the 2011 FIFA Women's World Cup. Faring less well in Germany was Let There Be Love, an English rewrite of Liebe ist alles by Rosenstolz. Melanie's version missed the Top 100 in late 2011, despite the fact that she performed it on the German X Factor finale! I guess the public weren't here for an English language version of a popular hit single, oops.

Here It Comes Again was released in February 2003 as the lead single from Melanie's long-awaited second album Reason. Melanie had been absent from the charts since 2000; two years was something of an eternity in the fast moving world of the music industry, and there was certainly pressure on her to replicate the success she achieved with her first album. That was unfortunately unattainable: the end result was a peak of #7 in the UK, three weeks in the Top 40 & total sales of less than 40,000 copies.

Posted by: Maurice! 27th September 2019, 04:27 PM

I don't think any of these songs is a favorite for me so not too sad they are ending low.

Posted by: Spiceboy 27th September 2019, 10:34 PM

I think If that were me did it's job, it sold fairly well considering it charted at #18, and helped give the album a boost in sales again, job done.

I would have preferred Be the one, Suddenly Monday or Closer tbh. I actually think a dance remix of Feel the sun could have worked really well too, following on from ITTY. Then again I like that every single from the NS album is so different, shows what a versatile album it is.

Posted by: vibe 28th September 2019, 12:48 PM

Let There Be Love is not a fav of mine !!

Posted by: Maurice! 28th September 2019, 02:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DavMyBVofYohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=519yuRHApfYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aAf8oe6NwEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV8ivByc6U8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEOeClFSQ1o

6.318 - 50. Carolyna MELANIE C
6.341 - 49. The Moment You Believe MELANIE C
6.370 - 48. Take My Breath Away EMMA BUNTON
6.407 - 47. Ride It GERI HALLIWELL
6.431 - 46. What I Am EMMA BUNTON


Starting off the Top 50 is Melanie C's Carolyna. It was released as the third overall single from her album This Time on the 8th of June 2007. It debuted and peaked at #49 in the UK singles chart, the first time Melanie missed the Top 40. Melanie revealed during an interview that Carolyna was inspired by a documentary in America about young kids living in the streets, and that the danger of homelessness was something that always scared her in her childhood.

The next song out is yet another Melanie C song: The Moment You Believe. It was the first single taken from This Time and was released on the 16th of March 2007. It notably reached #1 in Spain and was a Top 20 hit in Sweden, Switzerland and Germany. It used as a sound bed in a German TV show advert Nur die Liebe zählt. The Moment You Believe is the highest placed single from This Time in these results!

At #48 we have the beautiful Take My Breath Away, which was chosen as the 2nd single from Emma's A Girl Like Me album following a poll conducted on her official website. It was released on the 27th of August 2001, and debuted and peaked at #5 in the UK Singles Chart. The accompanying beautiful music video was shot in Sardinia, Italy and was directed by Greg Masuak.

Geri's Ride It charts at #47. Ride was released in November 2004 and reached #4 of the UK Singles chart - and notably being her final UK Top 10 hit. She memorably promoted the single by riding horseback through the streets of Soho in London! The accompanying music video for the song was directed by Luca Tommassini and shot in Milan in September 2004. In it, Halliwell dresses as a policewoman and spanks a male model with a truncheon before flashing her bra. She also sticks the truncheon between the man's legs. There is also a close-up of lifting her pink dress and shaking her bottom. laugh.gif

We end this section with Emma's What I Am, a cover of Edie Brickell & New Bohemians 1988 hit. Emma's version is a collaboration with electronic duo Tin Tin out, and was released on November 1st 1999. As previously mentioned, Emma was kept off the #1 spot by Geri's Lift Me Up! What I Am was the UK's 88th best-selling single of 1999.

Posted by: SamJudd 28th September 2019, 02:42 PM

Melanie C - The Moment You Believe - This actually wasn't released in the UK, It was the lead single for 'This Time' for the European market, her awful cover of 'I Want Candy' was chosen, as it was also the soundtrack to some movie of the same name (I don't remember it either). She spent more time promoting the other track in Europe and hence 'IWC' got left in the dust. 'TMYB' was the far better song anyway, but doubt it would have done any better here.

Melanie C - Carolyna - Actually quite like this one and definitely find it rather underrated, but releasing during the Spice Girls reunion probably didn't help matters.

Emma Bunton - Take My Breath Away - Nice song, not very interesting though & funny that this did so well on my Solo Spice Girls singles rate (ranking at #20), and now only manages #48. I feel that this suffers from the same problems her debut album has, its just bland and boring, thankfully she would improve on her 2nd album.

Geri Halliwell - Ride It - Geri's last hit, the 3 year gap didn't help (why did she stay away for so long), don't mind this song, its very camp and totally dated, but fun (the less said about the video the better), all things considering she was lucky to get success with this as it was all downhill from her. 'Love Never Loved Me' should have been the follow up to this, instead of that terrible 'Desire'.

Emma Bunton - What I Am - Not bad for a debut & really liked this at the time and is one of the better songs on her debut even if it doesn't belong on there whatsoever.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th September 2019, 04:22 PM

Potentially controversial opinion alert: The Moment You Believe is my least favourite single from This Time... yes, I like it slightly less than I Want Candy. I Want Candy may be an unusual choice for her to cover but I have moments where I find it to be quite fun. The Moment You Believe is comparatively bland, a samey sound she'd done before (I could go as far as to say that it was a calculated attempt to replicate the success of First Day of My Life). It's just pretty average. So I'm a bit "hmm" to see it as the top song from This Time, albeit only just. Carolyna is my favourite from the album.

Take My Breath Away is far too low for my liking! sad.gif Such a sweet song, one of Emma's purest vocals.

I unashamedly love Ride It! I suppose I understand it being divisive... but it's pure Geri, and if you're a fan of hers it ticks all the boxes. I'm glad she got to release one more out and out bop before her music career nose dived.

I'm pretty sure that What I Am would be in my personal Top 40, probably towards the bottom of it. It being out at this stage means that BuzzJack regards it as being the worst "first effort" from a solo Spice (When You're Gone, Out of Your Mind, Look at Me & I Want You Back are still in the running).

Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th September 2019, 04:22 PM

No Desire slander in this forum, please x

Posted by: vibe 28th September 2019, 05:23 PM

Carolyna is a jam!!

TMYB aid gorgeous too .

Posted by: JosephStyles 29th September 2019, 09:12 AM

Losing some great songs now! Let There Be Love, Carolyna and Take My Breath Away heart.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz 29th September 2019, 09:44 AM

Tell Me, Calling and Lift Me Up all robbed and should have been at least top 30 imo 😭

Posted by: Mr.X 29th September 2019, 01:36 PM

Carolyna is ok, nothing to scream about. It's a bit of a take on a Red Hot Chilli Peppers song isnt it though? To me, it sounded dated from the moment I heard it. It would have been quite the hit if it had been released straight after Northern Star album, I think. But it was too little too late.

The Moment You Believe is also ok, if slightly 'dated' as well and it sounded like a total cash in from First Day Of My Life. I don't get the hate that so many fans throw at it, to be honest. It is not a bad song, just a bit meh.

Take My Breath Away. One of my least favourite singles from Emma, but a sweet song nonetheless. I think it could work with a more contemporary remix. When she acknowleged its anniversary this summer on her social media, I thought it was quite a nice throwback actually. I appreciate it more now than I did then. I can imagine it being done nicelly as part of her Royal Albert Hall gig with a Christmas mix.

Ride It. Trash. Sorry, everything about it is just slightly annoying. The song is probably Geri's worst single after Half of Me and the video is the worst of her career. Everything about it and its promotion sounded and looked forced. I know she was going through a rough time, and it indeed sounded like she was very lost as a pop star then.

What I Am. Meh. It was a bit cute then, that's all there is to it lol

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 29th September 2019, 02:58 PM

I never realised Lift Me Up was a no.1 laugh.gif Sounded like a top 10! Really random. I liked it snd the video. Not sure what she was doing going head ro head with Emma when there are 51 other weeks?! Same for Emma.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 29th September 2019, 03:01 PM

Never liked Carolyna. I actually love Ride It though laugh.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 29th September 2019, 05:25 PM

QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 29 2019, 03:58 PM) *
I never realised Lift Me Up was a no.1 laugh.gif Sounded like a top 10! Really random. I liked it snd the video. Not sure what she was doing going head ro head with Emma when there are 51 other weeks?! Same for Emma.

The answer to that is extra media attention. Creating an interesting chart battle = encourage more sales. I’m sure either label could have chosen to move their release, but as they both stuck to it, that gives the impression it’s something they wanted. Apparently Emma was upset by it though.

It’s one of Geri’s most notable chart stats that she had 3 #1 singles from her debut album: Mi Chico Latino, Lift Me Up & Bag It Up. Then a further #1 with It’s Raining Men. That’s why she was so disappointed by Scream & Calling going to #8 & #7 respectively. Geri considered a Top 10 as being a failure.

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 29th September 2019, 05:53 PM

She was close to getting a 4th with Look At Me too, which deserved it tbh.

I would have been upset too. It's a shame Emma couldn't have forced them to change the date.

Posted by: Spiceboy 30th September 2019, 09:03 AM

Yeah I just don't get why they didn't switch, they likely would both have got a solo #1 out of it then...

Posted by: Jay ☆ 30th September 2019, 12:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9n5AkJU-sohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx1krWk-kFIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dl15xG3cHd4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PruP58FuYmMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxo7Wz9qWcs

6.432 - 45. First Day of My Life MELANIE C
6.472 - 44. I Want You Back MEL B
6.574 - 43. Not Such an Innocent Girl VICTORIA BECKHAM
6.593 - 42. Bag It Up GERI HALLIWELL
6.600 - 41. Room for Love MELANIE C


Melanie C really struck gold when she chose to record First Day of My Life! The song was written by Guy Chambers and Enrique Iglesias and had originally been recorded by Italian tenor Andrea Bocelli in 2004, with lyrics in Italian as "Un Nuovo Giorno" (A new day). Melanie's English version was released in September 2005, initially in Germany, Austria & Switzerland. Its usage as the title song of the German soap opera telenovela Wege zum Glück contributed to the single becoming a massive success in Germany, where it peaked at #1 and certified platinum. Not only was it the 12th best seller of 2005 there, but it also ended the 2000s decade as the 21st best seller. #1 peaks followed in Portugal, Spain & Switzerland, and #2 in Austria. Despite this huge European success, curiously it wasn't made a single in the UK. It was eventually included as a B Side on the Carolyna single in 2007.

I'm honestly shocked to see the very first solo Spice single, I Want You Back, as low as 44th... BuzzJack, what's good?! Mel B's very first release away from the Spice Girls came in September 1998 (21 years ago!!) and was an instant success in the UK where it entered at #1. The R&B/Hip-Hop song was produced by Missy Elliott, who also features on the track. On the same date Mel reached #1, she performed at Wembley Stadium with the Spice Girls.

Victoria's lead single from her self-titled debut album is out next. Not Such an Innocent Girl was released in September 2001, in the same week as Kylie's Can't Get You Out of My Head. There was a huge amount of media attention regarding this chart battle, but in the end it wasn't at all close. Kylie debuted at #1 with massive first week sales of 306,648, while Victoria finished way behind at #6 with 36,672 copies sold. I remember Victoria caused a furore in the press after wearing a fake fake lip ring on her lower lip during one of the promotional performances for the song, which lead to her being criticised by the British Dental Association(!).

I'm also pretty surprised to see Bag It Up miss the Top 40 in these results! It was something of a throwback to the disco-pop sound of Who Do You Think You Are, and just like that song, Bag It Up was also performed at the Brit Awards (making Geri the only solo Spice Girl to perform there by herself). That performance is certainly memorable, which saw Geri emerge from between a giant pair of inflatable legs! Bag It Up was a #1 hit in the UK, her third of four. When you include her 7 Spice Girls #1s, it made her the first female artist in UK chart history to have vocals on 10 different #1 singles! What a gloriously camp offering from Ginger. *.*

Just missing out on the Top 40 is Room for Love, released by Melanie C in 2017. It was the final release from her most recent studio album Version of Me. Melanie asked fans to submit footage of themselves singing and dancing to the track for the music video, which also features footage from Emma, Geri & Victoria.

Posted by: Mr.X 30th September 2019, 01:03 PM

I CANT BELIEVE YOU DID I WANT YOU BACK THIS WRONG!!!

Shut this forum down immediately! This is a scene of a crime nono.gif

Posted by: Spiceboy 30th September 2019, 02:00 PM

I'm shocked I want you back is so low wtf???

Posted by: Jay ☆ 30th September 2019, 02:01 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 30 2019, 02:03 PM) *
I CANT BELIEVE YOU DID I WANT YOU BACK THIS WRONG!!!

Shut this forum down immediately! This is a scene of a crime nono.gif
Agreed cry.gif

~~~~~

Let's have some stats before we get into the Top 40!


Number of singles remaining...

By artist:

Emma: 8/12
Geri: 3/11
Mel B: 2/7
Melanie C: 11/30
Victoria: 3/5
Spice Girls: 13/13


By era:

Spice Girls - Spice: 5/5
Spice Girls - Spiceworld: 4/4
Spice Girls - Forever: 3/3
Spice Girls - Greatest Hits: 1/1

Emma - A Girl Like Me: 1/4
Emma - Free Me: 4/4
Emma - Life in Mono: 2/2
Emma - My Happy Place: 1/2

Geri - Schizophonic: 2/4
Geri - Scream If You Wanna Go Faster: 1/3
Geri - Passion: 0/2
Geri - (Other): 0/2


Mel B - Hot: 1/4
Mel B - L.A. State of Mind: 0/1
Mel B - (Other): 1/2

Melanie C - Northern Star: 3/5
Melanie C - Reason: 1/4
Melanie C - Beautiful Intentions: 1/3
Melanie C - This Time: 0/5
Melanie C - The Sea: 2/4
Melanie C - Stages: 0/1
Melanie C - Version of Me: 2/5
Melanie C - (Other): 2/3

Victoria - Victoria Beckham: 0/2
Victoria - (Other): 3/3


By rate:

96-99: 14/19
00-04: 15/29
05-19: 11/30


By decade:

1990s: 14/19
2000s: 19/42
2010s: 7/17

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 30th September 2019, 02:23 PM

THIS IS A DISGRACE

NOT SUCH AN INNOCENT GIRL DESERVED TO COME TOP 10 YOU SWINES

ABSOLUTE SWINES!!!!
!
TWAT MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

AND OMFG I ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT INTERVIEW - "IS IT REAL?" YES YES IT IS!" THE PRESS HATED HER AND EVEN WHEELED OOT JORDAN TO CRITICISE HER OVER IT!

Posted by: Mr.X 30th September 2019, 02:46 PM

QUOTE(Algernon Monqueef @ Sep 30 2019, 03:23 PM) *
THIS IS A DISGRACE

NOT SUCH AN INNOCENT GIRL DESERVED TO COME TOP 10 YOU SWINES

ABSOLUTE SWINES!!!!
!
TWAT MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

AND OMFG I ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT INTERVIEW - "IS IT REAL?" YES YES IT IS!" THE PRESS HATED HER AND EVEN WHEELED OOT JORDAN TO CRITICISE HER OVER IT!


To be honest, Victoria could have had a better song and the press would have tried to kill her like they did.

But the song itself is f***ing pish lol

Posted by: vibe 30th September 2019, 04:20 PM

FDOML and IWYB underrated!!

Posted by: Algernon Monqueef 30th September 2019, 05:21 PM

NSAIG UNDERRATED!!!

Posted by: Mr.X 30th September 2019, 08:19 PM

Still not over how I Want You Back is already out. WTF!!

Posted by: Spiceboy 30th September 2019, 10:57 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Sep 30 2019, 09:19 PM) *
Still not over how I Want You Back is already out. WTF!!



Yeah, and I cannot believe NSAIG actually beat it wtf??? Who is on these forums??? huh.gif

Posted by: isanka 1st October 2019, 07:26 AM

cry.gif First Day of My Life

Not really happy with this

Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st October 2019, 02:11 PM

Who's ready for the Top 40 to begin? cheer.gif 36-40 revealed later this afternoon!

Posted by: Mr.X 1st October 2019, 03:24 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Oct 1 2019, 03:11 PM) *
Who's ready for the Top 40 to begin? cheer.gif 36-40 revealed later this afternoon!


If there is any more 'surprises' like I Want You Back and Word Up being outside of the Top20, KEEP IT JAY!!! cry.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st October 2019, 03:30 PM

cry.gif!

I would say from here on out, it's more the case that there's a few "I'm surprised this song is this high up..." scenarios!

Posted by: Mr.X 1st October 2019, 03:47 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Oct 1 2019, 04:30 PM) *
cry.gif!

I would say from here on out, it's more the case that there's a few "I'm surprised this song is this high up..." scenarios!


OK Bring it on! I have my pitchfork ready teresa.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 1st October 2019, 05:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsNbhwSXDB8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MifMrBCBR8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMo6v_uFZKUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ6kKlevpqshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoqeTtdhXEE

6.611 - 40. Mama SPICE GIRLS
6.648 - 39. On the Horizon MELANIE C
6.727 - 38. Headlines (Friendship Never Ends) SPICE GIRLS
6.741 - 37. Crickets Sing for Anamaria EMMA BUNTON
6.750 - 36. Dear Life MELANIE C


We start off the Top 40 with the first Spice Girls song to fall by the wayside! According to these results, Mama is BuzzJack's least favourite of their 13 singles. Do you agree? This sweet ode to the girls' mothers was released as a double A side single with Who Do You Think You Are, just in time for Mother's Day 1997. The single was hugely successful in the UK, where it became the girl group's fourth #1 single in a row from debut - which at the time was record breaking. It stayed at #1 for 3 weeks, (their longest stretch at #1 outside of Wannabe's impressive 7 week reign), and became 1997's 15th best selling single with 660,000 sales - and the 65th best seller of the 1990s! With downloads & streaming, the single is fast approaching 800,000 total sales. The single's success was hugely impressive when you consider that the Spice album had sold approaching 2 million copies by March 1997! The single was also a #1 success in Ireland and Austria.

Just making it into the top half of the results is On the Horizon by Melanie C. It was the second single to be taken from Reason, in June 2003. Fans and critics drew comparisons to New Radical's You Get What You Give - and the song is in fact written and produced by the New Radicals' Gregg Alexander, alongside Rick Nowels. Melanie C has previously expressed dislike for this song & never includes it in her live set lists, so I'm not sure what she'd make of BuzzJack declaring it as the best song from Reason! It seems that On the Horizon becoming a single may have been more down to her then-record label Virgin. Early signs indicated that it was a good choice - it made the UK Radio Airplay Top 20, at #8 - but sales were sluggish, with the single entering and peaking at #14, spending a mere 2 weeks in the Top 40. Its release also did very little for its parent album, re-entering the Top 100 for just 1 week at #81.

The second Spice Girls song to leave is their most recent single - Headlines (Friendship Never Ends). I say recent, but we're fast approaching this song's 12th anniversary. drama.gif At the time of its release, 7 years had passed since their previous single Holler/Let Love Lead the Way. With Geri returning to the group for their 2007 reunion, it was the Spice Girls' first new song as a 5 piece in a decade. Prior to its release, Geri described Headlines as a "big love song" and a "Spice Girls classic". Unfortunately critical and public reception to the new Spice Girls ballad was lukewarm to say the least. Despite the fact that it was released in aid of the Children in Need charity, it could only manage a peak of #11 in the UK - shockingly ending the group's string of singles and albums peaking no lower than #2. It managed a mere 50,000+ sales in total. Success was greater elsewhere - #2 peaks were achieved in Italy & Spain, and #3 in Sweden. I can't mention Headlines without throwing shade to that music video - I'll never understand what anyone involved in the creation of it was thinking. nono.gif

Crickets Sing for Anamaria is a cover of the 1960s bossa nova song by Marcos Valle, and was released as the fourth and final single from Emma's sophomore album Free Me. Crickets is certainly a unique entry in the Spice Girls canon - if you've heard it, you'll understand! Perhaps it was a little too out there for the UK public, given that it peaked at #15 and experienced a short chart life and low sales. It did create something of a revival for the album though - it climbed from outside of the Top 200 to #43, which is one of the better post-album single effects in solo Spice history!

Melanie C's second single choice from 2016's Version of Me is the ballad Dear Life. I'm pleasantly surprised to see it this high up in the results, I think it's a lovely song! By this stage of her career she wasn't achieving chart entries in the singles chart, but it was released as a CD single.

Posted by: jakewild 1st October 2019, 05:20 PM

crickets sing for anamaria <3

Posted by: JosephStyles 1st October 2019, 05:27 PM

Mama the lowest Spice single shocks me!!

Posted by: Maurice! 1st October 2019, 05:31 PM

2 group songs out before the top 30 is kinda shocking for me.

Posted by: jakewild 1st October 2019, 05:33 PM

mama was pretty weak tbh

Posted by: jakewild 1st October 2019, 05:34 PM

in regards to THEIR back catalogue

Posted by: vibe 1st October 2019, 05:46 PM

Crickets is too high .

Posted by: Mr.X 2nd October 2019, 08:29 AM

Im so GLAD that Crickets is above tripe like Mama and On The Horizon. It's such an inspired cover ah! It is interesting that it somewhat revived the album's in the charts, and looks like if she had done a bit more promo for it, it would have made more of an impact. And she should have continued with its promo, maybe even releasing the next single over the Summer period. Crickets was a perfect single - great fun and arty video, great b-sides, great live performances, etc.

Posted by: Lukuzz 2nd October 2019, 08:37 AM

Mama the lowest out of the singles, tbh I agree I do prefer Headlines.

Posted by: isanka 2nd October 2019, 12:16 PM

I'm glad for 'Dear Life'. It's a good song

Posted by: Maurice! 2nd October 2019, 02:38 PM

Time for some new results!

Posted by: Maurice! 2nd October 2019, 04:05 PM















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6.759 - 35. It's Raining Men GERI HALLIWELL
6.773 - 34. Downtown EMMA BUNTON
6.833 - 33. Let Love Lead the Way SPICE GIRLS
7.019 - 32. Out of Your Mind VICTORIA BECKHAM
7.068 - 31. Next Best Superstar MELANIE C


We start today’s section with Geri's It's Raining Men at #35. It's Raining Men, which was a cover of The Weather Girls’ original 80s hit, was released on April 30, 2001 (my 14th Birthday lol) as the first single from Geri's second solo album, Scream if You Wanna Go Faster. It was also featured as the lead single internationally to the soundtrack of the 2001 film Bridget Jones's Diary. The single became Halliwell's fourth consecutive number-one hit single on the UK Singles Chart and became her most successful solo single to date.

Another cover, this time by Emma, hits #34. Downtown originally by Petula Clark, was released November 13, 2006 and was that year’s Children In Need single. It debuted at #24 in the UK singles chart and jumped to #3 in its 2nd week, which is also its peak. Downtown would prove to have little staying power, spending only three weeks in the Top 20. It also notably also the final Spice related Top 10 hit in the UK.

Let Love Lead The Way is the next group song to chart, at #33. It was released on 23rd of October 2000 and was a double A-side with Holler. It peaked at number one on the UK Singles Chart, becoming the group's 9th #1 single. While it wasn't a fave for me when it was originally released, the performance on the 2019 tour with Geri gave me new love for the song. wub.gif

The number 32 position in this rate goes to Victoria's Out of Your Mind. The single was released on 14 August 2000 and was a featuring single with True Steppers (a UK garage duo) and Another Level singer Dane Bowers. In the United Kingdom, the single was released the same week as Spiller featuring Sophie Ellis-Bextor's Groovejet (If This Ain't Love). Although Out of Your Mind was predicted to be number #1 until Saturday, Groovejet ended up outselling it by 20,000 copies by Sunday’s official chart, holding Victoria back at the #2 position.

Before we dive into the Top 30 we have Melanie C with Next Best Superstar at #31. It was released as the 1st single from her 3rd album Beautiful Intentions on the 4th of April 2005. It peaked at #10 in the UK Singles Chart - Melanie’s final Top 10 hit. The song is about the fickleness of fame resulting from manufactured genre shows such as music competitions Pop Idol and The X Factor.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd October 2019, 04:09 PM

Ooh three group singles out before the Top 30... for me they're definitely the weakest three, even though I have love for them all.

Not really sure how Downtown managed to get this high up! I like it, but it definitely isn't in my personal Top 40 and there's certainly better Emma songs that have finished lower than it. As covers go I prefer It's Raining Men. It's a fun listen and she really put her all into her version & the video! It was a great time to be a Geri fan and seeing all the success she got with it, not just in the UK but also worldwide. A shame that it all unravelled quickly with the release of Scream If You Wanna Go Faster.

I still find it a shame that Victoria missed out on #1 after leading the way throughout the midweeks. That was such a surge of sales for Spiller in the final moments. In terms of song quality & classic status... even as a Spice fan I'd say that Spiller deserved it. It's a pity Victoria didn't release a week later, but I suppose the label would have been more worried about going up against Madonna's Music... but they needn't have been worried. Victoria sold nearly 181,000 copies to be #2, and a week later Madonna was #1 with less than 115,000. Two weeks later, A1 only needed 82,000 to be #1. Such a shame.

Next Best Superstar was a great lead single and I'm glad it gave her a last hurrah in terms of Top 10 peaks. Interestingly its week of release was the final week in chart history that was 100% based on physical sales - downloads were introduced to the chart a week later.

Posted by: JosephStyles 2nd October 2019, 05:51 PM

I had genuinely not heard Out of Your Mind until this rate and I found it really basic and cheap sounding oops, way too high for me (though I realise context probably helps and maybe I'd enjoy it more if I'd heard it when it came out!)

Let Love Lead the Way was a cute moment on tour and I really like the other three to some degree. Next Best Superstar probably my favourite from this section!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd October 2019, 05:56 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Oct 2 2019, 06:51 PM) *
I had genuinely not heard Out of Your Mind until this rate and I found it really basic and cheap sounding oops

http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?act=Login&CODE=03&k=be61ff02d3c5fed9673cdc8de045c5fa!

Posted by: SouthernStar88 2nd October 2019, 08:44 PM

I'm so curious about the top 30!

Posted by: Mr.X 2nd October 2019, 08:53 PM

Let Love Lead The Way was a special moment on tour actually, and I am glad it has finally gotten a proper full on live performance, after it was cut short (and boring) in the Return Tour in 2007. It has grown on me, so I am glad it is witihn the Top40. It probably deserved Top 30 but whatever.

The others I am not particularly fond of. It's Raining Men is a nice cover but it does very little to me. Downtown suits Emma's voice but it's a bit by the numbers tbh. Victoria's first solo single is ok, quite dated now whilst at the time sounded fresh and exciting. It's a shame she wasnt more daring with her album's promo campaigns like she was with this song's promo. This was a great first move as a solo artist who had no credibility. Unfortunately she ruined it afterwards.

Next Best Superstar is a bit bittersweet tbh. It's an ok song, but I am not particularly fond of the message specially as it comes from Mel C herself - someone who had always strived to be in the limelight and took on massive corporate promotions and deals to enrich herself as a Spice Girl, loosing a lot of credibility. I don't see much difference from that and the people she set out to criticise in the song. Maybe a little personal reflection would have helped give the criticisms she raised in the song (and promotional interviews) a bit more credibility. To me, to this day, it sounds like a potentially good song that sounds somewhat hypocritical...

Posted by: Spiceboy 2nd October 2019, 09:39 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Oct 2 2019, 09:53 PM) *
Next Best Superstar is a bit bittersweet tbh. It's an ok song, but I am not particularly fond of the message specially as it comes from Mel C herself - someone who had always strived to be in the limelight and took on massive corporate promotions and deals to enrich herself as a Spice Girl, loosing a lot of credibility. I don't see much difference from that and the people she set out to criticise in the song. Maybe a little personal reflection would have helped give the criticisms she raised in the song (and promotional interviews) a bit more credibility. To me, to this day, it sounds like a potentially good song that sounds somewhat hypocritical...



To be fair I don't think she is criticising them, it's more she is poking fun at the industry and how fickle the fame game is...

Posted by: vibe 3rd October 2019, 06:33 AM

I love all of those !!

Posted by: vibe 3rd October 2019, 06:34 AM

MR X totally has not understood Next Best Superstar .

Posted by: Mr.X 3rd October 2019, 09:23 AM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Oct 2 2019, 10:39 PM) *
To be fair I don't think she is criticising them, it's more she is poking fun at the industry and how fickle the fame game is...


Well yes, the same industry she is a part of and - gasp - has helped build. Not saying she isn't right about it - just that it sounded like a blame game when she was very much chasing that dream herself and achieved it and once it started to wane for her, then she started criticising it without reflection on her own actions, that's all.

QUOTE(vibe @ Oct 3 2019, 07:34 AM) *
MR X totally has not understood Next Best Superstar .


Please let me know what I missed tongue.gif

Posted by: vibe 3rd October 2019, 03:01 PM

Watch the press kit on YouTube or interviews where she discusses the meaning . Your slightly misinterpreting it.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 3rd October 2019, 05:51 PM

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7.091 - 30. For Once In My Life MEL B
7.119 - 29. Weak MELANIE C
7.185 - 28. I'll Be There EMMA BUNTON
7.296 - 27. Feels So Good MEL B
7.407 - 26. This Groove VICTORIA BECKHAM


For Once in My Life became Mel B's first music release in 8 years, upon its release in September 2013! Mel announced her unexpected return to music during an Ellen interview. Mel released the single on Thursday 19th September, on the same day as the music video premiere. This meant that the song only had three days to accumulate sales for that particular chart week in the UK (back when the chart was unveiled on Sundays). It reached a high of #69 on iTunes, which resulted in an eventual peak of #30 in the Indie chart. Unfortunately it missed out on the UK Top 200 chart. The Top 29 of the Indie chart all featured within the official Top 200, so it seems that Mel might not have been far off. If only she had released it earlier, tut! Fans had hoped that For Once in My Life was the beginning of a long awaited third album era for Mel, but sadly she never followed it up, instead focusing on her TV career. It became a club hit in the US in February 2014, reaching #2 in the Billboard Dance Club Songs chart ("The week's most popular songs played in dance clubs, compiled from reports from a national sample of club DJs."). Interestingly the music video was filmed on Colonial Street, a back-lot set at Universal Studios Hollywood, most known for being the set of the TV series Desperate Housewives.

Weak is taken from Melanie C's album The Sea, and was released as a single towards the end of 2011. Apparently Weak was selected as a single because BBC Radio 2 agreed to playlist it if she went with this particular song - and they did end up giving the track a lot of support, resulting in it reaching the Radio Airplay Top 50 - Melanie's best result as an independent artist. Unfortunately this higher than usual radio support didn't have the desired effect commercially; Weak became Melanie's first single to miss the Top 200 chart altogether (in fact it was the first ever Spice related single to fail to chart). Despite this under-performance, Weak has clearly remained as a fan favourite (in this rate its 8th out of the 30 Melanie C singles included).

Emma Bunton launched her second album Free Me with the release of its third single: I'll Be There. It entered and peaked at #7 in the UK singles chart in February 2004, the same peak that her album achieved that same month. I'll Be There's first week sales of 15,000 and eventual total of around 40,000 makes it her worst performing Top 10 hit, but in this rate it outperforms her Top 5 hits What I Am, Take My Breath Away and Downtown! Emma shot the black-and-white music video for I'll Be There in Paris. The physical contains what I believe to be Emma's finest solo B Side - So Long. heart.gif

In 27th place we bid farewell to the highest placed Mel B single: Feels So Good. Is it your personal favourite Mel B song? Let us know! Following the disappointing chart performance of Mel's debut album Hot (it reached #28 in October 2000 and vacated the Top 200 after just four weeks), she attempted to revive the era in early 2001 with this feel-good pop song. Feels So Good performed well in the singles chart, peaking at #5 with strong first week sales of around 55,000. Its eventual total of approx 140,000 copies makes it her second best selling single. It didn't entice many people into giving the album a try - it re-entered the Top 100 for just two weeks, reaching #95.

After leaving Virgin Records in 2002, Victoria signed with Telstar that same year and began working on material for her second solo album throughout 2003. Initially she went in a pop/dance direction, but during the recording process Victoria decided she wanted more of an urban sound. The first single from the project was the double A Side of This Groove and Let Your Head Go. This Groove came from her sessions with Damon Dash, and showcased the urban sound she had been working on (while Let Your Head Go came from her earlier pop sessions). It seems that Telstar wanted to see which sound the public responded more favourably to. The single was released on 29th December 2003, charting on 4th January 2004. Its release date was purposefully chosen to target what was traditionally one of the lowest selling chart weeks, in a bid to get a high chart position. Its entry & peak position of #3 on sales of 29,000 was a great result, but the #1 spot continued to allude her - a fact that the media liked to focus on. Undeterred, Victoria continued to work on new music throughout the first half of 2004... but disaster struck later that year when Telstar went bankrupt - with the media placing the blame on Victoria for being an expensive signing. This seemed to be the straw that broke the camel's back... Victoria gave up on her music career and turned her hand to fashion (a decision which worked out quite well for her xx).

Posted by: Maurice! 3rd October 2019, 06:06 PM

The i'll Be There video is so stunning wub.gif and agree about So Long too heart.gif

Posted by: Mr.X 3rd October 2019, 07:37 PM

For Once In My Life is bad. Everything about it - and she obviously doesn't sing half of the song. You can tell it is someone else's voice in certain parts ah. And that video blush.gif

I'll Be There deserved to be Top20 on this, but Im glad it stayed so high! It's such a gorgeous song, potentially a classic had it been released by a more mainstream artist at the time. The video is just GORGEOUS and So Long is not only her best b-side, it is one of her best songs ever.

Mel C's Weak is, well, weak in all aspects. Personally, never liked it as it sounds forced. It has some nice vocals but the song overall is a bit grating. And also that video is a crime lol

Feels So Good is great! It's such an underrated gem, I think had she lead the album with that, it probably gotten better sales ah. But by early 2001, the main public just didnt care for solo Spices anymore. I also think this song should have been higher in this chart, but at least it is not below some of the songs that have just gone out lol...

Vicky did ok with This Groove, but it just doesnt ring true to me. Her take on R&B Pop was fun in Victoria Beckham, she had some great tracks (Like That, Not That Kind Of Girl, I Wish, etc) but this was a bit toooooo random and her trying to be sexy was just a bit tooooo out of character ah

Posted by: Jay ☆ 4th October 2019, 01:24 PM

I loooove For Once in My Life, for me it's very uplifting and fun. It was actually released shortly after I had an operation (gallbladder removal, eek) and I was feeling major discomfort for a number of days afterwards, so Mel B unexpectedly delivering a new uptempo song was a certainly a welcome distraction!

In the past I felt quite ambivalent towards I'll Be There - sometimes I found it nice, sometimes it bored me and felt that she could have done more with the song. In recent years though it's grown in my affections more, it's a lovely track.



Feels So Good is definitely my favourite Mel B song. wub.gif I think it deserved greater success than it got, but with it being a post album single, from an album which was regarded as a massive flop (which it was, honestly)... she probably did well to get another Top 5 hit after such a disaster.

Like you Mr.X, I do wonder if the Hot era would have gone better for Mel had she launched with Feels So Good instead. Apparently she finished recording the Hot album in April 2000, which makes me wonder why it took until October to release it. October was totally the wrong time to schedule it; it was always going to be overshadowed in the midst of the Spice Girls comeback. Apparently it was Mel B who was determined that October was the time to release it, while Virgin wanted to delay it until 2001. I wish the label had got their own way on this occasion!

Personally I would have liked to have seen the album released earlier than it was. Release Feels So Good as the lead single in June 2000 and then had the album out in July 2000. I feel like the public might have responded better to both releases in the summertime? I suppose it still wouldn't have been the most ideal scenario for her to release the album a few months in advance of Forever, because the time to release a second single would have clashed with Holler/Let Love Lead the Way... hmm.

Sometimes I wonder if she should have gone in a different direction with the album cover. I was 12 and I felt too self conscious to hand it over in the store lol, I asked my Dad to do it for me. Clearly that's quite prudish, I certainly wouldn't have a problem now, but I just didn't feel comfortable about it as a child. Perhaps other young fans felt similarly, who knows. I'm not sure which picture from the shoot I would have chosen instead... I don't think any of the pictures in the Hot booklet scream "album cover".

Posted by: Mr.X 4th October 2019, 05:05 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Oct 4 2019, 02:24 PM) *
I loooove For Once in My Life, for me it's very uplifting and fun. It was actually released shortly after I had an operation (gallbladder removal, eek) and I was feeling major discomfort for a number of days afterwards, so Mel B unexpectedly delivering a new uptempo song was a certainly a welcome distraction!

In the past I felt quite ambivalent towards I'll Be There - sometimes I found it nice, sometimes it bored me and felt that she could have done more with the song. In recent years though it's grown in my affections more, it's a lovely track.
Feels So Good is definitely my favourite Mel B song. wub.gif I think it deserved greater success than it got, but with it being a post album single, from an album which was regarded as a massive flop (which it was, honestly)... she probably did well to get another Top 5 hit after such a disaster.

Like you Mr.X, I do wonder if the Hot era would have gone better for Mel had she launched with Feels So Good instead. Apparently she finished recording the Hot album in April 2000, which makes me wonder why it took until October to release it. October was totally the wrong time to schedule it; it was always going to be overshadowed in the midst of the Spice Girls comeback. Apparently it was Mel B who was determined that October was the time to release it, while Virgin wanted to delay it until 2001. I wish the label had got their own way on this occasion!

Personally I would have liked to have seen the album released earlier than it was. Release Feels So Good as the lead single in June 2000 and then had the album out in July 2000. I feel like the public might have responded better to both releases in the summertime? I suppose it still wouldn't have been the most ideal scenario for her to release the album a few months in advance of Forever, because the time to release a second single would have clashed with Holler/Let Love Lead the Way... hmm.

Sometimes I wonder if she should have gone in a different direction with the album cover. I was 12 and I felt too self conscious to hand it over in the store lol, I asked my Dad to do it for me. Clearly that's quite prudish, I certainly wouldn't have a problem now, but I just didn't feel comfortable about it as a child. Perhaps other young fans felt similarly, who knows. I'm not sure which picture from the shoot I would have chosen instead... I don't think any of the pictures in the Hot booklet scream "album cover".


Ah I do think her pictures DID somehow put people off - or at least the overall Spice fanbase lol but clearly the main issue was the timing and promotion. WHY did she think that releasing at the same time as Forever promo was on, would be a good idea? Strange that even the record company was against it but let it happen.

I think at the time there was a general fatigue of the Spice Girls as well, we have to consider this too. So the timing and the choice of Tell Me as lead probably completely ruined her chances of success. If she had gone:

1. Feels So Good
2. Hotter
3. Tell Me
4. Lullaby

It probably would have done better. But even then after Feels So Good, there arent that many singles in the album. Oh well...

Posted by: Mr.X 4th October 2019, 05:08 PM

Also Jay - glad Mel B helped during your surgery recovery wub.gif She clearly knew!

Posted by: SamJudd 4th October 2019, 06:30 PM

"Feels So Good" was a great single choice for Mel B, after the somewhat lacklustre 'Tell Me' (even though it did well) & really breathed a bit of life into her solo career. But releasing 'Lullaby' really killed her momentum, if 'Hotter' was released instead, then it may have kept her solo career going a bit longer, and maybe been able to push another single if it had done well of course.

Posted by: Mr.X 4th October 2019, 07:06 PM

Yeah, I have no idea why she released Lullaby as it was clearly a make or break single lol

I always thought that this picture should have been the front cover:


Posted by: pippa 4th October 2019, 07:47 PM

Feels So Good, its not a bad song by any stretch, but it isnt the most memorable either.

Posted by: Spiceboy 4th October 2019, 08:42 PM

Feels so good sounds like a lead campaign single, Tell me sounds like a follow up, she definitely released in the wrong order.

1. Feels so good
2. Hotter
3. Tell me
4. Lullaby / New upbeat song (double a-side)

That's what she should have released.

Posted by: Michael Andrew 5th October 2019, 09:22 AM

Totally agree on your first three. But she should never have released 'Lullaby'. I think that was the nail in the coffin.

Posted by: vibe 5th October 2019, 07:14 PM

The cover art had no factor in it flopping. I actually like it .

Mel should have never gone down the rnb route . It doesn’t suit her voice at all. IWYB only worked cos it’s spoken singing.


Posted by: Maurice! 6th October 2019, 05:15 PM

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7.444 - 25. Look At Me GERI HALLIWELL (0 '11' score)
7.444 - 24. Free Me EMMA BUNTON (1 '11' score)
7.500 - 23. All I Need to Know EMMA BUNTON
7.659 - 22. Baby Please Don't Stop EMMA BUNTON
7.690 - 21. Loving You MELANIE C


We start with Geri's Look At Me at #25. It's her first single after she left the group. It was released on the 10th of May 1999 and debuted and peaked at #2 in the UK Singles chart. The music video features four versions of Geri: a vamp, a bitch, a virgin, and a sister. Most of the music video is black and white, except in one scene in the middle of the video, during the funeral of Geri's stage persona "Ginger Spice", Geri was seen (as the British Union Jack was pulled off "Ginger's" coffin) with red hair, blonde highlights, and a red thorn crown and laughing with eyes wide open.

In 24th, 23rd and 22nd we have three Emma songs in a row. At #24 we have Free Me, the first single from Emma's 2nd solo album with the same title. It was released on the 26th of May 2003 and debuted and peaked at #5 in the UK Singles Chart, making it her 4th top 5 single. A dance version was released in America in 2004 and charted at #4 in the US Hot Dance Club Play chart.

At #23 we have All I Need To Know, which was Emma's 2nd and last single from the Life In Mono album, and also the last single before she went on her solo career hiatus for 12 years. The single entered the UK Top 100 Singles Chart in the week of 24 February 2007 at #60 and charted for only one week before falling out, making it the lowest charting single of Bunton's career at the time.

Next we have Emma's first single in 12 years since All I Need To Know, Baby Please Don't Stop. It was released on 27 February 2019 as the lead single from her fourth studio album, My Happy Place. The music video also premiered on 27 February 2019. It features Emma on the set of a photoshoot with her family and dog, while trying on outfits and drinking champagne.

Before we go into the Top 20 of the results, we Melanie C's Loving You, a duet with X Factor winner of the 2010 series Matt Cardle. The single was released on 18 August 2013 in the United Kingdom and debuted and peaked at #14 in the UK singles chart, becoming Melanie's first UK Top 20 hit since 2005.

Posted by: vibe 6th October 2019, 05:16 PM

Look At Me is Geri’s best single !!


Posted by: Mr.X 6th October 2019, 06:14 PM

All I Need To Know, Free Me and Baby Please Don't Stop already out?! ARE YOU ALL ON DRUGS??!! Specially with Loving You above all of them? sick.gif

This goddman forum has lots its mind nocheer.gif

Posted by: JosephStyles 6th October 2019, 06:47 PM

For Once In My Life and Feels So Good are both FANTASTIC songs!! wub.gif Lots of good songs dropping now!

Posted by: vibe 6th October 2019, 08:15 PM

Loving you should be higher

Posted by: pippa 7th October 2019, 07:14 PM

QUOTE(vibe @ Oct 6 2019, 09:15 PM) *
Loving you should be higher


Much higher and Top 15 at the lowest.

Posted by: Mr.X 7th October 2019, 07:48 PM

QUOTE(pippa @ Oct 7 2019, 08:14 PM) *
Much higher and Top 15 at the lowest.


It's such a cringe song blink.gif

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 7th October 2019, 10:31 PM

Loving you is ace.

Posted by: Michael Andrew 8th October 2019, 08:07 AM

Agreed. 'Loving You' still gives me chills. Exceptional harmonies. Sung with genuine emotion. An inspired collaboration.

Posted by: Spiceboy 8th October 2019, 09:11 AM

Loving you is excellent wub.gif

Posted by: Lukuzz 8th October 2019, 07:18 PM

Look At Me and All I Need To Know would definitely be in my Top 20. Love both

Posted by: SouthernStar88 8th October 2019, 07:41 PM

QUOTE(Lukuzz @ Oct 8 2019, 07:18 PM) *
Look At Me and All I Need To Know would definitely be in my Top 20. Love both

The same for me!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 12th October 2019, 05:41 PM

Who is ready for the Top 20? cheer.gif 16-20 results coming soon!

Posted by: Mr.X 12th October 2019, 06:41 PM

I NEED ME A BUNTON ON THE TOP 10 OTHERWISE IM GOING TO COMPLAIN TO THE GOVERNMENT!!>!>>>!>!>!!(U@&(WY!IH

Posted by: Spiceboy 13th October 2019, 10:17 PM

QUOTE(Michael Andrew @ Oct 5 2019, 10:22 AM) *
Totally agree on your first three. But she should never have released 'Lullaby'. I think that was the nail in the coffin.


I think Lullaby is a nice song and actually was a good idea with the Phoenix tribute. Had it been supported by a stronger new upbeat song I think it would have been a good double a-side ala Mama / Who do you think you are... On it's own it didn't work, and with the album already flopping the claws were out from the press about her using Phoenix, had it been more successful the reaction would have been different I think.

Posted by: Spiceboy 13th October 2019, 10:18 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Oct 12 2019, 07:41 PM) *
I NEED ME A BUNTON ON THE TOP 10 OTHERWISE IM GOING TO COMPLAIN TO THE GOVERNMENT!!>!>>>!>!>!!(U@&(WY!IH



Pretty sure Maybe is going to win, and What took you so long will probs make top 10 too so calm ya tits laugh.gif

Posted by: isanka 17th October 2019, 08:52 AM

Yes ready.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 17th October 2019, 06:46 PM

















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7.741 - 20. Let Your Head Go VICTORIA BECKHAM
8.042 - 19. Too Much SPICE GIRLS (11 '10' scores)
8.042 - 18. Northern Star MELANIE C (12 '10' scores)
8.056 - 17. Mi Chico Latino GERI HALLIWELL
8.159 - 16. Think About It MELANIE C


We start the top 20 results with Victoria's highest placed song: Let Your Head Go. In the video Victoria humorously pokes fun at her 'Posh' persona and the celebrity lifestyle: in one scene she throws a tantrum in her dressing room (wire coat hangers, heaven forbid!).

A big leap into the 8+ average scores now, starting with Spice Girls - Too Much in 19th place. Too Much was released in December 1997 as the second single from the Spiceworld album. It impressively sold over a quarter of a million copies in its first week on sale in the UK, and entered the chart at #1. Not only was it their 6th #1 single in a row (which was a record breaking achievement), but also their second consecutive Christmas #1. The song plays during the opening credits of their film Spiceworld: The Movie. It became their fourth and final top 10 hit in the US, where it peaked at #9.

The title track from Melanie C's debut album Northern Star is out next (with the same average score as Too Much, but Northern Star received more 10s). This was the second release from the album, in November 1999. The ballad entered and peaked at #4 in the UK chart, and went on to sell over 200,000 copies. Importantly the single's success benefited the album, which held onto the UK albums chart top 40 over the Christmas period.

In 17th, we have the final appearance from Geri Halliwell! Mi Chico Latino, with its Latin pop sound, made for a perfectly timed release (the summer of 1999 was dominated by hits from Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias, Lou Bega, Jennifer Lopez and Santana). Geri scored her first UK #1 with this single, the first of four, and its sales are not far off 400,000 copies here.

Rounding off this section of 5 is Think About It by Melanie C. This single launched the release of her 2011 album The Sea, but unfortunately its success was limited... a peak of #95 in the UK made it her lowest charting at this point. I think the majority of fans would agree it deserved far more than that, but sadly this position was a reflection that the UK public had really moved on from music from solo Spice Girls. Factors which may have hindered Think About It: the song premiered in July 2011, but it wasn't released until September - and its release date occurred in the same week as the album. Despite it being a commercial failure, fans clearly hold it in high regard - its Melanie's fifth highest placed song in the results!

Posted by: Mr.X 17th October 2019, 07:02 PM

Im glad both Vic and Geri are out. Both songs were cute but VERY overrated! Mi Chico Latino really didnt stand the test of time, it's now quite dated. Same with LYHG, I feel...

Northern Star is a gem. It really is an amazing ballad, im glad she released it and keeps doing it live. For me, its her best single on that album.

Sad about Too Much going so soon. It's such a gorgeous song, very chic and classy. It's a classic really. Personally, I always wished they would give it more of a (good) push when doing it live. They never did it justice live, and ruined it during the Reunion tour. During the Spice World tour this year, they did it well though, but it still could have had a bit more wooph in my opinion. It just doesnt translate very well live, I guess...

Personally I think Think About It is really overrated. Never liked it and she shouts a lot on it - specially live. I get it, it's pop music at Mel C's purest but the lyrics and her singing ruin it for me...

Posted by: JosephStyles 17th October 2019, 08:15 PM

Northern Star surprisingly high but not complaining, lovely song! Think About It and Mi Chico Latino are great too *.*

I wouldn't have placed Let Your Head Go quite so high but it's a good song still. Too Much isn't a huge favourite of mine so I'd have placed that lower too...!

Posted by: Maurice! 17th October 2019, 08:23 PM

Think About a bit too high for my liking but good results for the rest.

Posted by: Bloodjerdling 17th October 2019, 08:40 PM

'Let Your Head Go' and 'Mi Chico Latino' are both solo gems! Forever salty that the former likely won't ever be on streaming services.

'Too Much' was one of my biggest Spice growers over the year for sure. Love it nowadays, so classy.

'Northern Star' is lovely but I can't say that I've ever really taken to 'Think About It' much, surprised it's higher than the all the others in that section!

Posted by: vibe 17th October 2019, 08:58 PM

Too Much is much superior to MCL

TAI is Jam

NS is lush

Posted by: Maurice! 23rd October 2019, 08:39 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W2jONIjrM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK8b7uXm8sshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX1Df_sjdzYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLIiF15wjQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JD6ejmlpa8

8.208 - 15. When You're Gone MELANIE C
8.375 - 14. Anymore MELANIE C
8.426 - 13. What Took You So Long? EMMA BUNTON
8.486 - 12. Wannabe SPICE GIRLS (0 '11' scores)
8.486 - 11. Stop SPICE GIRLS (1 '11' score)


It's time to start the top 15 with 2 Melanie C songs. At #15 we have When You're Gone with Bryan Adams, released on the 30th of November 1998 as the second solo spice single. It debuted and peaked at number #3 on the UK Singles Chart and spent 15 weeks in the UK top 40, with 9 of these weeks in the top 10. In the UK it's the biggest selling solo single, with over 700,000 copies sold. The song was a global success and is still played on the radio a lot 21 years later.

Another Melanie C song at #14 is Anymore, released on the 6th of September 2016 as the lead single of her Version Of Me album. The uptempo electro-pop song was a departure from the pop rock sound on her previous albums. It didn't do much chart wise but it was #1 in the UK Physical Singles chart. Jay and I were surprised this song was so high between the classics.

At #13 we have the brilliant What Took You So Long? from Emma, that was released on the 2nd of April 2001. It debuted and peaked at #1 with 76,000 copies sold in its first week and remained there for a second week, fighting off competition from Shaggy and Janet Jackson. It is Emma's first and only solo number #1 single in the United Kingdom.

The next song in this chart is Wannabe, the most successful song Spice Girls song worldwide,. It was released on the 8th of July 1996 and debuted at #3, rising to #1 a week later, where it stayed for 7 weeks. It was #1 in 31 countries all over the world, including America in 1997 where it stayed 4 weeks at #1. It was the best selling debut single by an all female group in the UK.

Before we enter the top 10 we have Stop at #11. It was released at the 9th of March 1998 and debuted and peaked at #2, behind "It's Like That" by Run-D.M.C. vs Jason Nevins. This meant that the Spice Girls' streak of consecutive #1 singles on the chart ended after 6 #1s. Stop became the group's only single released during their original tenure to not reach #1 on the UK chart. It was the group's last single released before Geri's departure in May 1998, though it was not the last single to include her vocals (which was Viva Forever). The hand-action dance during the chorus of the song is still remembered these days by many people.

Posted by: JosephStyles 23rd October 2019, 05:07 PM

Woah at Anymore!! Did not expect that so high but it's a brilliant song so no complaints...!

Wannabe not being top 10 is shocking, even though I know it's not exactly the best received song among Spice stans. It's truly iconic of course!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 23rd October 2019, 05:56 PM

After Wannabe, Stop seems to be the best remembered/most loved Spice Girls song amongst the public, so it'll always seem quite weird that in the 90s this was their only single that somewhat under-performed. 8 #1s that went platinum, while Stop peaked at #2 and only managed silver at the time. The hardcore fans never seem to have either song too high up their personal ranks, so I'm not too surprised by their placements here! Both are a bit higher than they were in the DenDen rates I hosted in 2012 and 2014!

I am very surprised that Anymore is so high! I really like it though, but top 20... not for me. I feel like it may have benefited by being in a rate amongst 2010s songs only, a lot of which aren't that well liked, so by comparison Anymore attracted higher scores. If 90s/00s and 10s had been altogether, I think Anymore probably would have ended lower than it has.

I'm slightly disappointed What Took You So Long? didn't make the top 10 results! I adore it wub.gif Both that & Maybe are firmly within my personal top 10.

When You're Gone is definitely a classic, although there are many Melanie C songs I prefer over it!



When it comes to the top 10, we have...

7 Spice Girls songs
2 Melanie C songs
1 Emma Bunton song
6 90s songs
4 00s songs

Maz & I are excited to reveal the rest of the results - stay tuned! x

Posted by: Spiceboy 23rd October 2019, 06:58 PM

Wow 2 Melanie C songs was not expecting that! Maybe will be the highest solo Spice track easily (it's not even my favourite Emma track)

Posted by: Mr.X 23rd October 2019, 10:53 PM

Maybe is such a classic wub.gif

Im happy Anymore got so high actually. I think it is an ok song, nothing amazing but it's her best single since I Turn To You (personally I think she had better album tracks in Beautiful Intentions, dont @ me). I like it, but those lyrics in the chorus are terrible imo. Also, I am happy for When You're Gone. It's also such a classic!

What Took You So Long? did good to get to #13 although I would have put it firmly in the Top10 too!! It's such a gorgeous track, and video funky.gif

And Stop certainly deserves all the love it gets and more. I feel like it naturally becoming their second most popular song with time is destiny making amends for that #2 back in 1998 tongue.gif It's a gorgeous single, super stylish, great video and a great song. Them pulling off Motown vibes with pop like this was a total win!

Posted by: isanka 24th October 2019, 12:19 PM

From Fans, i still don't understand why Classics are at the TOP.

Posted by: TheJü-Pumpkin 24th October 2019, 01:32 PM

I'm shook at these solo songs beating some Spice Girls songs! Making me wonder how close Mel will get to the top.

I anticipate a Viva Forever win though, esp following their tour performances.

Posted by: vibe 25th October 2019, 08:33 AM

Anymore deserves that position .

Shocked that stop is not top 10 .

Posted by: isanka 25th October 2019, 10:32 AM

Always ITTY & NBTSA are at the TOP... Seriously, she has done much better.

Posted by: Mr.X 25th October 2019, 12:49 PM

QUOTE(isanka @ Oct 25 2019, 11:32 AM) *
Always ITTY & NBTSA are at the TOP... Seriously, she has done much better.


They shouldnt even be Top10 tbh. Never Be The Same Again is still cute but both songs have not aged well at alll blink.gif

Posted by: SouthernStar88 25th October 2019, 06:59 PM

I hope for Viva Forever to win!!!! Absolutely not for Maybe or ITTY!!!!!!! sick2.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 27th October 2019, 01:32 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBWbH5CeRE

8.685 - 10. Holler SPICE GIRLS

I'm very pleasantly surprised that Holler has made the top 10 of the Spice rate! It tends to receive a rather balanced love/hate reception on BuzzJack, but significantly more love has been thrown at it in this rate - an impressive 4 '11' scores, eleven '10' scores and only three out of 27 voters gave Holler less than a 6. Stan a bit!

Personally I think it's highly worthy of this positive reception. I've actually loved it unwaveringly since 2000! 12 year old me was thrilled that they had finally returned (I remember playing it over and over, getting my life to it), and 31 year old me still considers it to be that bop. Some fans were critical of the shift to an R&B sound, but out of all the tracks on the Forever album, I feel like Holler doesn't stray awfully far from their pop roots tbh, even though there's obviously an Americanised sound to it. That chorus is pretty undeniable imo, so catchy!

Upon its release in October 2000, Holler (alongside Let Love Lead the Way, as a double a side release) entered the UK chart at #1 - their 9th chart topper in their first 10 releases. There's only eight other artists in music history who've achieved more number one singles than that, and the majority of those have significantly larger singles discographies! Holler was a hit elsewhere too, peaking at #2 in Australia, Canada & New Zealand, and #3 in Ireland and Italy.

Holler is of course one of their songs released as a four piece; Geri left the group two and a half years before its release. Who would have thought back then that one day Geri would perform this song! She swerved the opportunity to do so during 2007/8's The Return of the Spice Girls tour, but finally in 2019 we saw her don a black leather outfit and strut her stuff alongside the other girls. *.*

I love the music video for Holler - the pyramid formation dance routine (definitely their most intricate choreography), the earth/wind/fire/air elements theme... it's a visual treat!

Posted by: JosephStyles 27th October 2019, 04:41 PM

Quite honestly I've not recovered from Holler on tour yet

Posted by: Jay ☆ 27th October 2019, 10:46 PM

QUOTE(JosephStyles @ Oct 27 2019, 04:41 PM) *
Quite honestly I've not recovered from Holler on tour yet

Omg same x What a moment!!


Where have all the raters gone btw? cry.gif (Obviously appreciate all the comments received so far!). 19 people who rated haven't replied once to the results though sad.gif Are y'all lurking~

Posted by: Bloodjerdling 27th October 2019, 10:50 PM

Gobsmacked that 'Anymore' is so high ohmy.gif I do think it's one of the best Spice songs of the 2010s (the sophisticated production always draws me in) but wow I wouldn't have predicted it to be in the top 15 of absolutely all of these singles!

I wish 'Stop' was in the top 10. Previously I would've been salty at 'Holler' for denying it but I agree that the tour version was brilliant x

Posted by: Maurice! 28th October 2019, 03:25 PM

Holler deserves top 10, the tour made the song sound fresh again heart.gif

Posted by: Spiceboy 28th October 2019, 04:17 PM

Absolutely love Holler what a moment should have been so much bigger. Can’t believe they didn’t bother to promote it at all in the USA!?!? I mean it was perfect for that market ffs!

Posted by: sammy01 28th October 2019, 04:26 PM

Melanie c always benefits from being seen as the most talented or credible, it gets her extra credit in rates like this. Anymore shouldn't be anywhere near a top 15 of anything.

Posted by: Mr.X 28th October 2019, 05:46 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Oct 28 2019, 05:26 PM) *
Melanie c always benefits from being seen as the most talented or credible, it gets her extra credit in rates like this. Anymore shouldn't be anywhere near a top 15 of anything.


I actually agree with you! I find the stanning of both her main singles completely overblown, specially as both songs are very dated by now...

Posted by: Spiceboy 28th October 2019, 06:06 PM

And yet the stanning of Maybe isn’t overrated... rolleyes.gif ... oh of course not because that’s Emma!

It’s got nothing to do with her being seen as more credible or with her songs sounding dated, it’s to do with personal taste. People don’t just stop liking songs because they sound dated because let’s be honest virtually every Spice Girls song sounds dated...

Posted by: Mr.X 28th October 2019, 06:15 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Oct 28 2019, 07:06 PM) *
And yet the stanning of Maybe isn’t overrated... rolleyes.gif ... oh of course not because that’s Emma!

It’s got nothing to do with her being seen as more credible or with her songs sounding dated, it’s to do with personal taste. People don’t just stop liking songs because they sound dated because let’s be honest virtually every Spice Girls song sounds dated...


Sorry but that is not quite true.

Holler for instance is a song that actually sounds like it could be on the radios today. So does Maybe, so does Northern Star, so does When You're Gone. I also think that What Took You So Long is bit dated now (even though I love it of course), so does Mama, Wannabe, etc. They were very much of their time.

I Turn To You sounded dated by the time 2005 was over. Music and people have moved on. Of course, people here like it and it's fine, but it and Never Be The Same Again are treated as the HOLY GRAIL of solo Spice music, but she actually has better songs that are not so dated and stood the test of time.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 28th October 2019, 06:19 PM

I think a lot of the charm when it comes to the vast majority of the songs in this list, is that they are dated (although I’d refer to them as nostalgic). I like that Melanie’s #1s sound straight out of 1999/2000!

Posted by: Mr.X 28th October 2019, 06:28 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Oct 28 2019, 07:19 PM) *
I think a lot of the charm when it comes to the vast majority of the songs in this list, is that they are dated (although I’d refer to them as nostalgic). I like that Melanie’s #1s sound straight out of 1999/2000!


Of course. But maybe they just shouldnt be in the Top10 cool.gif

Posted by: TheJü-Pumpkin 28th October 2019, 08:32 PM

Holler is so good! I'm definitely lurking mostly oops biggrin.gif this is a great read & writeups xo

Posted by: sammy01 28th October 2019, 10:32 PM

Maybe like Stop was made to sound deliberately dated (60s sound) so they haven't really aged as they never really fitted into the music landscape they were released in.

Holler is just a great song with amazing production, it really has stood the test of time.

Anymore is like Baby please don't stop for me, decent efforts but neither are top 15 of Spice Girls music.

Mel B always gets done so dirty in these rates for the opposite reason of Mel c, people just completely write her off as a solo artist. I want you back, Word up and Feels so good are every inch as good as ITTY or NBTSA.

Posted by: Feel_The_Fever 29th October 2019, 09:08 AM

With mel b I love lullaby but it always gets overlooked.

Posted by: Spiceboy 29th October 2019, 03:36 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Oct 28 2019, 10:32 PM) *
Maybe like Stop was made to sound deliberately dated (60s sound) so they haven't really aged as they never really fitted into the music landscape they were released in.

Holler is just a great song with amazing production, it really has stood the test of time.

Anymore is like Baby please don't stop for me, decent efforts but neither are top 15 of Spice Girls music.

Mel B always gets done so dirty in these rates for the opposite reason of Mel c, people just completely write her off as a solo artist. I want you back, Word up and Feels so good are every inch as good as ITTY or NBTSA.


Just because something sounds of it’s time doesn’t make it no longer a great song. Look at Don’t you want me by Human League or Don’t stop believing by Journey or I wanna hold your hand by The Beatles or Jailhouse Rock by Elvis... all of them sound so very much of their time and not in the slightest bit current but that doesn’t stop people from continuing to love those songs. If a song is good in its time it still sound good even if it belong to a different era in sound...

Also re the Mel B thing well that is your opinion. As much as I like a few Mel B tracks I don’t rate them over ITTY or NBTSA at all and I’m not biased to Mel B not having been successful as some of my favourite tracks are Melanie C’s “flop” tracks. Also the general public clearly thought the same as those hits didn’t have anywhere near the success of ITTY or NBTSA and you can’t say they were influenced by their status as Mel B was seen as THE spice girl while Melanie C was easily the least profile of them all (still is to this day).

Also ITTY is probably the highest selling solo Spice track in this day and age as it has had the biggest increase in sales over all tracks from its hey day so it sounding “dated” isn’t a hinderance compared to “current sounding” tracks (which to be honest none of their big solo hits really do... especially not IWYB or FSG or any Emma tracks)

Posted by: sammy01 29th October 2019, 04:45 PM

I think When you're gone is the solo track that increases the most with sales these days.

Oh I didn't say tracks sounding dated aren't great too but if you can create a track that transcends the music and trends of its release you know you are on to a great song.

I think Mel C has forced ITTY and NBTSG to be sort of classic as she peddles them out everywhere at every chance. I think IWYB could be like that if Mel B had stayed in the industry and performed it at the ROTSG tour etc.

The one good thing about Emma releasing a new album and doing the xmas show is she seems to have remembered she has a back catalogue finally.

Posted by: Spiceboy 29th October 2019, 10:45 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Oct 29 2019, 04:45 PM) *
I think When you're gone is the solo track that increases the most with sales these days.

Oh I didn't say tracks sounding dated aren't great too but if you can create a track that transcends the music and trends of its release you know you are on to a great song.

I think Mel C has forced ITTY and NBTSG to be sort of classic as she peddles them out everywhere at every chance. I think IWYB could be like that if Mel B had stayed in the industry and performed it at the ROTSG tour etc.

The one good thing about Emma releasing a new album and doing the xmas show is she seems to have remembered she has a back catalogue finally.



Melanie probably has the two highest selling solo tracks these days then, although possibly Geri's It's raining men streams/sells a little more?

I don't think you can say she has 'forced' them to be classics that's kind of ridiculous. I mean What took you so long is one of the solo Spice classics and that certainly isn't due to Emma performing them non-stop or remaining in the industry, same for It's raining men and Look at me by Geri... At the end of the day ITTY and NBTSA were big hits in their time and like 150-200k bigger hits that I Want You Back, so of course they are going to have resonated a bit more with the general public / fans than alot of the others...

Posted by: vibe 30th October 2019, 03:49 PM

IWYB is nowhere near a classic . It is never played on radio , even in its day it was extremely lucky to get to Number 1.
Sales are not too impressive. It is never played in bars / clubs. It is forgotten by the public.

Sammy - You just hate on Melanie C.




Posted by: Mr.X 30th October 2019, 04:40 PM

QUOTE(vibe @ Oct 30 2019, 04:49 PM) *
IWYB is nowhere near a classic . It is never played on radio , even in its day it was extremely lucky to get to Number 1.
Sales are not too impressive. It is never played in bars / clubs. It is forgotten by the public.

Sammy - You just hate on Melanie C.


It baffles me that its sales were so low actually, specially because in 1998 sales for Spice related stuff were always quite high. Interestingly, it has over 1million streams on Spotify and I would suggest that most people who listened to it then still remeber it today.

Mel B was done so wrong by the British public back then. She released quite the line-up of amazing singles back to back! I Want You Back, Word Up, Tell Me and Feels So Good were top quality singles. Only matched by Emma's run of Free Me singles (all 4 amazing). Not even Mel C has a consecutive run like that (the best she did was Northern Star, Never Be The Same and I Turn To You).

Ah well... I Want You Back will always be in my Top10 of Spice related music, together with Word Up, Maybe and All I Need To Know wub.gif

Posted by: pippa 30th October 2019, 06:37 PM

Mel B unfortunately appears to have no songs that are known outside the Spice Girls fanbase.
She has delivered some good single to us through her solo career but she was never lucky to have any hype behind her releases.

Posted by: Maurice! 30th October 2019, 07:04 PM

I Want You Back is played regularly on Dutch radio actually, please watch further than your own British island x

Posted by: Maurice! 30th October 2019, 07:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eegDtyrSUZw

8.778 - 09. Goodbye SPICE GIRLS

At #9 we have Goodbye, which I consider to be one of their best ballads. Goodbye was written by the group, Richard Stannard, and Matt Rowe, while it was produced by the latter two. It was the girls' first song released without Geri, although she did eventually perform it during the Spice Girls tours in 2007 and 2019 (Geri sang Victoria's lines in 2019).

Goodbye was released on the 14th of December 1998, and became their 3rd consecutive Christmas #1 in a row after selling a huge 380,000 copies in its first week! It faced stiff competition from Chef's 'Chocolate Salty Balls (P.S. I Love You)', but the Spice Girls ended up being 8,000 copies ahead by the end of the week. Goodbye went on to sell over 900,000 copies, making it the group's fifth best selling single.

Many fans consider Goodbye to be about Geri due to her having left the band earlier that year, but apparently the original version was written during the January 1998 Dublin studio sessions with Geri, and was originally about the Dunblane massacre. The song was re-recorded in August 1998 in Nashville during their American tour.

For me personally, Goodbye has a double meaning: I consider it to be about Geri, but also it reminds me that I had to say Goodbye to one of my favourite houses I lived in - our family moved houses in early 1999, when Goodbye was being played a lot on the radio.

Posted by: JosephStyles 30th October 2019, 07:38 PM

Goodbye's a gorgeous song! A definite Spice fave of mine heart.gif

Posted by: Mr.X 30th October 2019, 10:38 PM

Goodbye is gorgeous. Emma leads on it perfectly and Victoria's verse is a stand out moment.

Whilst it was made to be about Geri, I feel the sentiment can be applied to many other personal things, so it is a versatile song! Love it.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 31st October 2019, 02:34 AM

I adore Goodbye! heart.gif So beautiful and sentimental. The tour performances this year wub.gif Personally I would have liked to see this a bit higher up than 9th, but I can't really complain about a top 10 finish. This actually won the DenDen Spice Rate in 2012! ohmy.gif

Posted by: isanka 31st October 2019, 09:03 AM

Goodbye should be higher.

So many memories with this song.
I first eard when i was on my first school international trip to London. I remember there was Posters of the single release everywhere. With the School we went to Hamleys on Regent Street and there was a full place with only Spice Girls merchandises. (i remember also i discover Big Big World from Emilia)
When i came back to France, i bought the single with my mum on Christmas time. I remember i played the single for the first time on my grand-ma house. Now it's my Mum favorite Spice Girls song because she remind her Christmas.
The performance at the Brit was amazing.
This song was so emotional durint TROTSG Tour, it make me cried so much during the show. (funny my mum came with me to London on that trip).
When my cousin committed suicide by throwing herself under a train, i played that song over & over for liberate my feelings.
This song is my #1

Posted by: vibe 31st October 2019, 09:42 AM

Goodbye is a fav of mine . Gorgeous song and video .

Posted by: Jay ☆ 8th November 2019, 10:27 AM

Sorry for the delay! Will aim to get the next result up on Saturday. Any predictions for what is coming next?

Reminder of the songs still in the running...

2 Become 1
I Turn to You
Maybe
Never Be the Same Again
Say You'll Be There
Spice Up Your Life
Viva Forever
Who Do You Think You Are

Posted by: Mr.X 8th November 2019, 10:41 AM

MAYBE FOR THE WIWIIIIIIIIIN gold.gif wave.gif spin.gif bounce.gif party2.gif party.gif birthday.gif magic.gif banana.gif dancing.gif no1.jpg yahoo.gif cheer.gif wub.gif





































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Posted by: Jay ☆ 10th November 2019, 12:12 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdW9oM6ZMME

8.808 - 08. Maybe EMMA BUNTON

Oops, sorry Mr.X! sad.gif

Emma's highest placed solo single is her 2003 release Maybe! Emma described this song as having a "real retro feel to it", which is certainly accurate - it's a throwback to the 60s with its bossa nova/lounge/pop sounds. Its incredibly stylish music video was also a step back in time, with its style & dance heavily inspired by the The Rich Man's Frug dance in the 60s movie Sweet Charity.

Maybe came close to the top 5 in the UK, starting at #4 in the midweeks, but frustratingly it ended up placing at #6. I'll never get over it!! As of 2009 it had sold 77,000 copies in the UK, making it the best selling single taken from Emma's second studio album Free Me. Elsewhere it performed modestly, including #17 in Ireland and #20 in Italy. Emma & the Universal label clearly had faith in Maybe, given that they released it in the US in 2005... but it only managed a peak of #6 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play chart.

This is my personal favourite solo single - incredible song, video and performances! It's such a gem! I'll always feel that this single deserved far more commercial success than it attained. Thankfully BuzzJack clearly recognises how great this song is, considering its impressive performance in this rate. wub.gif

Posted by: Jade 10th November 2019, 12:19 PM

'Maybe' is so much fun! It'll take a lot to topple 'What Took You So Long?' as my Emma favourite but it's definitely up there. I hope 'Never Be The Same Again' is the highest solo Spice song, as much as I enjoy 'I Turn To You' as well.

Posted by: Mr.X 10th November 2019, 04:35 PM

It is still #1 in my heart wub.gif

Honestly, I cant get over the fact that I Turn To You and Never Be The Same again are so high. Most overrated tracks ever....

Posted by: Spiceboy 10th November 2019, 05:53 PM

Omg I have to say I did laugh a lot as I scrolled down the page past Mr X’s MAYBE FOR THE WIN then the next post shows maybe is out laugh.gif

Posted by: Mr.X 10th November 2019, 06:55 PM

I DEMAND A RECOUNT!!

THIS IS A GAY RIGHTS ISSUE!!!



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Posted by: JosephStyles 10th November 2019, 09:07 PM

Maybe is S U P E R B

Posted by: Maurice! 10th November 2019, 09:10 PM

My fave solo spice single by far also my fave spice related song after Viva Forever

Posted by: Spiceboy 10th November 2019, 11:56 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 10 2019, 06:55 PM) *
I DEMAND A RECOUNT!!

THIS IS A GAY RIGHTS ISSUE!!!

drama.gif


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Justice is being served after yours and Sammy's very incorrect statements about NBTSA and ITTY tongue.gif

Posted by: Maurice! 15th November 2019, 11:47 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjKK_s_nyY

8.870 - 07. I Turn to You MELANIE C

At #7 we have Melanie C's biggest single I Turn To You. It was released on the 7th of August 2000 as the 4th single of the Northern Star album and became Melanie's second #1 single. It sold 120,000 copies in its first week, going on to sell over 400,000 copies in total. It was the 27th best-seller of 2000 in the UK. I Turn to You also topped the Austrian Singles Chart, the Danish Singles Chart, the Dutch Top 40, the Swedish Singles Chart and the US Billboard Hot Dance Club Play chart. The main single was released as the "Hex Hector Radio Mix", for which Hex Hector won the 2001 Grammy as Remixer of the Year. I Turn to You has sold over two million copies worldwide. Another version that was released for radio was the StoneBridge R&B Radio Mix, which I absolutely love.

Posted by: JosephStyles 15th November 2019, 07:47 PM

A brilliant song! *.*

Posted by: Mr.X 15th November 2019, 08:08 PM

A great song indeed, but unfortunately, in my opinion, completly overrated. It's sound was a surprise at the time, proving a great Ibiza-style remix and video, which was incredibly popular in the early 2000s. Good for her, it was a great move to remix the song in this way with such a colourful video. It also came after a run of very different sounding singles, which was also a great way of showcasing her versatility as an artist.

But it sounds exactly like the 2000s, and a bit out-dated in my opinion and overrated by the fandom as it was Mel C's biggest hit single and her first fully solo number 1, cementing her as a household name. There's a lot of emotional baggage attached to it. Personally, I am over it and don't really listen to it anymore, and even at the time I found it a bit 'there', like Melanie was trying a bit too hard with it, like with Goin' Down. She seemed more at ease and in her element with Northern Star or Never Be The Same Again.

That's just my opinion. Again, it is a great single, it just never did much to me lol

Posted by: sammy01 15th November 2019, 08:44 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Nov 10 2019, 11:56 PM) *
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Justice is being served after yours and Sammy's very incorrect statements about NBTSA and ITTY tongue.gif


This rate is only proving my point. Maybe is a brilliant slice of 60s pop, with a perfect video to match that. It is as fresh now as it was in the mid 2000s

ITTY is a decent Ibiza dance song but we have a lot of those and it sounds exactly like a dated 2000 dance song now. As always it is given more credit because it was released by 'proper artist melanie c'.

Posted by: Spiceboy 16th November 2019, 12:21 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Nov 15 2019, 08:44 PM) *
This rate is only proving my point. Maybe is a brilliant slice of 60s pop, with a perfect video to match that. It is as fresh now as it was in the mid 2000s

ITTY is a decent Ibiza dance song but we have a lot of those and it sounds exactly like a dated 2000 dance song now. As always it is given more credit because it was released by 'proper artist melanie c'.



Or maaaybeeeee (no pun intended) I turn to you is actually also a brilliant slice of 2000's pop with a great video of it's own, which appeals to just as many people if not more than Maybe?

I prefer ITTY over Maybe and that's got nothing to do with Melanie C being a "proper artist" I just think it's alot catchier, Mel's voice sounds fantastic on it, and it makes me want to get up and dance and sing along at the top of my voice everytime I hear it... It's easily in my top 5 solo releases (alongside WTYSL, Mi Chico Latino, NBTSA and WYG).

I also love how something can sounds 60's and be brilliant for it, yet something sounds 2000's and it's decent but dated... unsure.gif wacko.gif

Posted by: sammy01 16th November 2019, 01:29 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Nov 16 2019, 12:21 PM) *
Or maaaybeeeee (no pun intended) I turn to you is actually also a brilliant slice of 2000's pop with a great video of it's own, which appeals to just as many people if not more than Maybe?

I prefer ITTY over Maybe and that's got nothing to do with Melanie C being a "proper artist" I just think it's alot catchier, Mel's voice sounds fantastic on it, and it makes me want to get up and dance and sing along at the top of my voice everytime I hear it... It's easily in my top 5 solo releases (alongside WTYSL, Mi Chico Latino, NBTSA and WYG).

I also love how something can sounds 60's and be brilliant for it, yet something sounds 2000's and it's decent but dated... unsure.gif wacko.gif


Because the intention was to make something sound 60s, taking the best elements from that period and adding a modern twist.

ITTY was made to sound current and on trend in 2000, which now sounds dated.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 16th November 2019, 02:02 PM

I love both Maybe and I Turn to You 💃🏻💃🏻

Posted by: Mr.X 16th November 2019, 03:49 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Nov 16 2019, 12:21 PM) *
Or maaaybeeeee (no pun intended) I turn to you is actually also a brilliant slice of 2000's pop with a great video of it's own, which appeals to just as many people if not more than Maybe?

I prefer ITTY over Maybe and that's got nothing to do with Melanie C being a "proper artist" I just think it's alot catchier, Mel's voice sounds fantastic on it, and it makes me want to get up and dance and sing along at the top of my voice everytime I hear it... It's easily in my top 5 solo releases (alongside WTYSL, Mi Chico Latino, NBTSA and WYG).

I also love how something can sounds 60's and be brilliant for it, yet something sounds 2000's and it's decent but dated... unsure.gif wacko.gif


What I mean about it sounding dated is that Maybe still sounds like it could be released today and still sound fresh. Whilst I doubt I Turn To You as it stands could. In fact, we just saw that with High Hells, which sounds like an updated version of that sound anyway (and personally sonically, I find it better if not lyrically, ah).

Put it this way: both Emma and Mel C's discogaphies are FILLED TO THE BRIM with sounds that are very much stuck in the past, that havent evolved much at all. Some of their outputs already sounded dated by the time they were released (Carolyna, I Want Candy, Understand, Downtown, Baby Please Don't Stop, etc). Some of their outputs sound fresh (Maybe, Anymore, Too Many Teardrops and High Heels, for instance).

Hope that has helped clear up the idea of what 'dated' might mean. It's very different from 'I like it' or 'I dont like it'...

Posted by: Spiceboy 16th November 2019, 05:00 PM

Yes but when you say it’s overrated because it sounds dated that very much puts it in a position of I dislike it because it sounds dated...

I think a good song always sounds good despite whether it sounds fresh or of the time. Don’t you want me by human league sounds so 80’s it’s painful but it’s still a fantastic song. A heck of a lot of Madonna’s 80s and 90s stuff sounds of the time but they are still brilliant. Same for Kylie etc etc.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 16th November 2019, 05:33 PM

"Dated" has such a negative connotation for some reason, I see it thrown around as a criticism quite often - but I think it's part of an old song's charm if it sounds firmly like the era it was created in, that can be very nostalgic. I don't mind whether or not something from certain years holds up in comparison to music production and trends from 2019, because that's not what I'm searching for when playing old music. It's very subjective whether a song is dated or timeless or somewhere in between anyway!

Posted by: Spiceboy 16th November 2019, 06:07 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Nov 16 2019, 05:33 PM) *
"Dated" has such a negative connotation for some reason, I see it thrown around as a criticism quite often - but I think it's part of an old song's charm if it sounds firmly like the era it was created in, that can be very nostalgic. I don't mind whether or not something from certain years holds up in comparison to music production and trends from 2019, because that's not what I'm searching for when playing old music. It's very subjective whether a song is dated or timeless or somewhere in between anyway!


Jay the voice of reason wub.gif

Posted by: SouthernStar88 16th November 2019, 06:07 PM

I'm glad that Maybe and I Turn To You are not in the top 5...they're maybe my least favorite two singles of what I call the Golden Solo Era(1999-2004)…
Instead, Goodbye deserved a better result...

Posted by: Jay ☆ 27th November 2019, 01:38 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ro0FW9Qt-4

9.000 - 06. Say You'll Be There SPICE GIRLS

Landing just outside the top 5 results, with a highly respectable average score of exactly 9, is Say You'll Be There! This is of course the follow up single to the Spice Girls' extraordinarily successful debut hit Wannabe. Some critics dismissed the Spice Girls as likely one-hit-wonders, but Say You'll Be There - a slick pop/r&b infused song - was an instant smash not only in the UK, but worldwide, proving that they meant business and were here to stay!

Released in October 1996, it sold almost 350,000 copies in its first week alone in the UK, which made it the second fastest selling single of 1996 up to that point! It spent two weeks at #1, selling over half a million copies during its reign at the top. It sold over 900,000 copies in 1996, enough to be the 4th best selling single of the year. As of 2018 it had crossed over the million mark (including streaming).

The single achieved top 10 peaks in numerous countries, most notably #3 in the US Billboard Hot 100. Its debut week at #5 made it the highest entry by a British act on the chart, at that time.

Its memorable female-empowerment themed music video was filmed in the in the Mojave Desert, inspired by the films Pulp Fiction and Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!. It went on to win a Brit Award in 1997 for British Video of the Year!

I'm actually quite surprised that this hasn't made the top 5 results! ohmy.gif In these results, BuzzJack prefers four other Spice Girls singles, and a solo release...!

Posted by: vibe 27th November 2019, 02:46 PM

How did i not recognise how bad the cover is of SYBT until this year?

However the song and video are incredible.

Posted by: Jade 27th November 2019, 03:02 PM

A shame that 'Say You'll Be There' couldn't quite make the top 5! It's my third favourite of theirs after 'Viva Forever' and 'Spice Up Your Life' wub.gif

Posted by: Mr.X 27th November 2019, 03:22 PM

Say You'll Be There is amazing and the perfect second single. It showed the Spice Girls were not just a one-hit wonder act, but a serious proposition to the pop landscape.

It's cool and edgy and it still sounds quite fresh today, which is niiiiiiice. A classic that deserves way more attention today than it gets!

I always think that if they were to make new music, I wish they would do an album that is somewhere between the lines of Say You'll Be There and Never Give Up On The Good Times. A combination of camp and fun, as well as bringing an RnB edge to it, which they always did so well. An album filled with tracks like those two would be a win win in today's landscape, I think.

Avoid music and style like Wannabe or even Spice Up Your Life, as they are iconic but probably their style and sound doesnt translate well as new music to be released now, I think.

Posted by: Spiceboy 27th November 2019, 07:58 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Nov 27 2019, 03:22 PM) *
Say You'll Be There is amazing and the perfect second single. It showed the Spice Girls were not just a one-hit wonder act, but a serious proposition to the pop landscape.

It's cool and edgy and it still sounds quite fresh today, which is niiiiiiice. A classic that deserves way more attention today than it gets!

I always think that if they were to make new music, I wish they would do an album that is somewhere between the lines of Say You'll Be There and Never Give Up On The Good Times. A combination of camp and fun, as well as bringing an RnB edge to it, which they always did so well. An album filled with tracks like those two would be a win win in today's landscape, I think.

Avoid music and style like Wannabe or even Spice Up Your Life, as they are iconic but probably their style and sound doesnt translate well as new music to be released now, I think.



Agree with every word wub.gif

Posted by: ChristMaz! 2nd December 2019, 06:03 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YriinrRGug

9.042 - 05. Who Do You Think You Are SPICE GIRLS

We are starting the top 5 with Who Do You Think You Are! It was released as a double A-side with Mama on the 3rd of March 1997 and peaked and charted at #1 in the UK Top 40 a week later. It was also the Comic Relief single of 1997, with Kathy Burke, Dawn French, Llewella Gideon, Lulu, and Jennifer Saunders as The Sugar Lumps in a second version of the video.

The girls opened the Brit Awards 1997 performing this song. Geri's outfit was a black coloured mini dress emblazoned with a Union Jack on the front and a white peace symbol on the back, which made the front page of various newspapers, and is now remembered as one of the most iconic symbols of the 90s. 13 years later, at the 2010 BRIT Awards, the group's performance won the Most Memorable Performance award of the BRITS last thirty years.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 2nd December 2019, 11:03 PM

One of my favourites, so I'm very pleased to see it in the top 5! wub.gif I enjoy the disco influences... such a bop. heart.gif

That Brits performance never fails to give me chills! Such an iconic moment in music history.

Posted by: Spiceboy 3rd December 2019, 10:44 PM

Who do you think you are is SUCH a stomper of a song! I adore it!

Ps about bloody time this thread got updated!!!!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 11th December 2019, 11:21 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nEzfa43VF8

9.093 - 04. Never Be the Same Again MELANIE C

Well done to Melanie C for achieving the highest place solo Spice song in this countdown!

Melanie C launched her solo career in 1999 with the release of her debut album Northern Star (which entered at #10), and two singles (Goin' Down and Northern Star, both #4 hits), but she would go on to achieve greater success in 2000! Never Be the Same Again (a collaboration with the late TLC member Lisa 'Left Eye' Lopes) showed another side to the Northern Star album, with its R&B flavour, and it was an instant success in the UK. It debuted at #1 in the singles chart, with first week sales of 145,000 copies. At the time, this made it the fastest selling solo Spice single. As of 2016 it had sold 432,000 copies, and it's certified gold! The success of the single breathed new life into its parent album, which climbed the charts to reach a new peak of #5. Worldwide success followed; it notably reached #1 in the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway and Sweden, as well as #2 in Australia. It remains as one of Melanie C's most successful and beloved hits.

Posted by: ChristMaz! 11th December 2019, 04:30 PM

Not her best single in my opinion but wel done!

#3 will come this weekend, so we have this results done before Christmas

Posted by: Spiceboy 11th December 2019, 04:51 PM

Probably my favourite Melanie C song, it's such an easy listening jam I adored it when it came out and I still adore it all these years later.

Posted by: Mr.X 11th December 2019, 05:06 PM

Her second best single, after Northern Star, but damn it is toooooo high on this rate. It definitely deserved Top15, but not even Top10 in my opinion... Overrated as hell ah...

Posted by: ChristMaz! 14th December 2019, 12:09 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wfpXI5PKlw

9.389 - 03. Spice Up Your Life SPICE GIRLS

At #3 we have the fantastic and iconic Spice Up Your Life, which was released on the 13th of October 1997 as the lead single from the album Spiceworld. It reached #1 in the UK, which made the Spice Girls the first act to have its first five singles reach #1 in the United Kingdom! It performed almost as well internationally, peaking inside the top five on the majority of the charts.

The music video for Spice Up Your Life was directed on 6 September 1997 by Marcus Nispel in a two-day shoot located in New York City. The video features the group in a futuristic setting, inspired by the 1982 film Blade Runner.

The girls have performed the song on all four of their tours: the Spiceworld Tour, the Christmas in Spiceworld Tour, The Return of the Spice Girls Tour and the Spice World 2019 Tour. It was also part of the iconic medley with Wannabe at the 2012 Olympic Closing Ceremony.

For me this is one of my fave Spice Girls singles and still play it regularly.

Posted by: Mr.X 14th December 2019, 01:09 PM

Still so f***ing iconique!!

Posted by: Jay ☆ 14th December 2019, 03:57 PM

Honestly I would say it's my favourite song of all time, and I know many people would raise their eyebrows at that, but every single listen of it makes me feel so happy! wub.gif

Posted by: SouthernStar88 14th December 2019, 05:29 PM

So happy for this top 3!!! These are maybe my 3 favorite Spice Girls singles (along with Goodbye, Too Much and Holler)...who will win?? smile.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 18th December 2019, 10:10 AM

More replies pleaaaase and then we’ll finally reveal the top 2 cheer.gif

Posted by: isanka 18th December 2019, 12:23 PM

nice for NBTSA & SUYL. 2 nice songs.

Posted by: Spiceboy 18th December 2019, 04:27 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 18 2019, 10:10 AM) *
More replies pleaaaase and then we’ll finally reveal the top 2 cheer.gif


Stop dragging it out bitches pirate.gif pirate.gif

Posted by: JosephCarey 20th December 2019, 01:40 PM

Never Be the Same Again is so good, I actually hadn't heard it until this year laugh.gif but it's been a fantastic discovery!!

Spice Up Your Life is of course a classic wub.gif would've been my choice to win!!

Posted by: Spiceboy 20th December 2019, 02:28 PM

QUOTE(JosephCarey @ Dec 20 2019, 01:40 PM) *
Never Be the Same Again is so good, I actually hadn't heard it until this year laugh.gif but it's been a fantastic discovery!!

Spice Up Your Life is of course a classic wub.gif would've been my choice to win!!


How had you never heard it until this year?!?!? #flopspicefan! tongue.gif

Posted by: ChristMaz! 20th December 2019, 05:54 PM

Final results coming tonight!

Posted by: SouthernStar88 20th December 2019, 07:11 PM

QUOTE(ChristMaz! @ Dec 20 2019, 06:54 PM) *
Final results coming tonight!

Can't wait! dance.gif

Posted by: Jay ☆ 20th December 2019, 08:11 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA5jsa1lR9c

9.431 - 02. 2 Become 1 SPICE GIRLS

2 Become 1 is your runner-up! cheer.gif

2 Become 1 is a romantic pop ballad, with a safe-sex message... a fact which completely went over my head as a child, as I'm sure it did for the majority of other child fans too! It was only a few years later that it dawned on me what the lyrics meant! This was the Spice Girls' first ballad single, the first of 7 (Spice Girls certainly loved ballad releases!). In my humble opinion, no other girl group mastered the art of the pop ballad quite as well as the Spice Girls did. wub.gif

This was the Spice Girls' third single to be taken from their debut album 'Spice'. Prior to 2 Become 1's release in December 1996, Spice had already sold over 1 million copies in the UK - which was phenomenal given that it had only been available for 6 weeks! Huge album sales didn't stop 2 Become 1 from being massive in its own right! It provided the Spice Girls with their fastest selling single, shifting an astonishing 462,000 copies in its first week, more than enough to instantly become the group's third #1 single - and their first Christmas #1, 23 years ago this week! Sales remained strong in its second week, lifting the total to over 750,000 copies, making it the fifth best selling single of 1996. It joined Say You'll Be There & Wannabe in the Top 5, the fourth and second best sellers of the year respectively. Spice itself was the third best selling album of 1996! Impressively the Spice Girls sold well over 4.5m units of 'Spice', 'Wannabe', 'Say You'll Be There' and '2 Become 1' in just 6 months. 2 Become 1 went on to become a million selling single in the UK, eventually certifying 2xPlatinum in 2018.

2 Become 1 was also a big success worldwide. It reached #1 in Ireland and Spain, as well as cracking the Top 5 in the following countries: Australia (#2), New Zealand, Norway, Canada, the Netherlands (#3), France, US (#4) and Belgium (#5).

For it's single release, the lyrics were edited slightly from the album version. Geri sings "Any deal that we endeavour, boys and girls feel good together" in the original version, but this part was replaced by "Once again if we endeavour, love will bring us back together" for the single version, with Victoria providing the vocals instead. A reason provided for this lyric change was so that the Spice Girls didn't want to alienate their LGBTQ fan base. Geri later confessed that she'd had difficulty in making her vocals sound as perfect as she wanted them to be, due to struggling with singing in the required key. I don't believe it's known why Victoria replaced Geri, but maybe it was because Victoria didn't have a major part in Wannabe?

Posted by: ChristMaz! 20th December 2019, 08:14 PM



The Winner of Spice Rate 2019 is :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkuqRFXNvI

9.819 - 01. Viva Forever SPICE GIRLS

Yes, it's VIVA FOREVER!!!!!!!

Viva Forever served as the fourth and final single from the Spice Girls' second album, Spiceworld, and was released on 20th July 1998. It was written by the group with Matt Rowe and Richard Stannard, whilst produced by the latter two. Its lyrics are regarding a summer romance which has come to a natural end.

The song charted well, becoming the band's seventh UK #1 single (on first week sales of 278,000) & gaining a Platinum certification, whilst also topping the charts in New Zealand. It was impressive that Viva Forever was a big commercial success considering that it experienced release date delays & relatively less promotion than previous singles, due to the girls being on tour in America at the time of its release.

It was technically the group's first release without Geri, who had walked out on the band two months prior to this single's release. However it is counted as one of Geri's #1s due to her vocal and writing contributions to the track.

The animated video was commissioned months before Geri's departure, and as such she appears in the video and the accompanying single artwork. The video was directed by Steve Box of Aardman Animations, who utilised a stop motion animation technique with five, 12 inch high Spice Girls fairy puppets. The video's plot is essentially about a young person growing up and leaving their youth behind. A nice touch at the end of the original video was only four of the Spice fairies being visible, flying out of a vending machines - symbolising Geri leaving the Spice Girls (let's not even talk about the new ending in the 4K version of the video xx).

The four remaining members performed the track on shows Top of the Pops and on the National Lottery television show. An adapted pop-opera duet version was performed with Pavarotti at his annual charity event Pavarotti and Friends. The song was also performed live as a five-piece in 2007/8 on their return concert tour, Return of the Spice Girls, and also a 4 piece again at their Stadium tour earlier this summer, with Geri taking over Victoria's lines.

For me it's their best single ever and my all time favorite song! It's a beautiful song and clearly a huge fan favourite. Viva Forever haters just have a shit taste in music as this rate has proven x

Thanks from myself & Jay to all of you who rated & commented!

Posted by: JosephCarey 20th December 2019, 08:20 PM

Such a worthy winner!! wub.gif

Thanks so much to Jay and Maury for hosting *.*

Posted by: SouthernStar88 20th December 2019, 08:27 PM

QUOTE(ChristMaz! @ Dec 20 2019, 09:14 PM) *
The Winner of Spice Rate 2019 is :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wkuqRFXNvI

9.819 - 01. Viva Forever SPICE GIRLS

Yes, it's VIVA FOREVER!!!!!!!

Viva Forever served as the fourth and final single from the Spice Girls' second album, Spiceworld, and was released on 20th July 1998. It was written by the group with Matt Rowe and Richard Stannard, whilst produced by the latter two. Its lyrics are regarding a summer romance which has come to a natural end.

The song charted well, becoming the band's seventh UK #1 single (on first week sales of 278,000) & gaining a Platinum certification, whilst also topping the charts in New Zealand. It was impressive that Viva Forever was a big commercial success considering that it experienced release date delays & relatively less promotion than previous singles, due to the girls being on tour in America at the time of its release.

It was technically the group's first release without Geri, who had walked out on the band two months prior to this single's release. However it is counted as one of Geri's #1s due to her vocal and writing contributions to the track.

The animated video was commissioned months before Geri's departure, and as such she appears in the video and the accompanying single artwork. The video was directed by Steve Box of Aardman Animations, who utilised a stop motion animation technique with five, 12 inch high Spice Girls fairy puppets. The video's plot is essentially about a young person growing up and leaving their youth behind. A nice touch at the end of the original video was only four of the Spice fairies being visible, flying out of a vending machines - symbolising Geri leaving the Spice Girls (let's not even talk about the new ending in the 4K version of the video xx).

The four remaining members performed the track on shows Top of the Pops and on the National Lottery television show. An adapted pop-opera duet version was performed with Pavarotti at his annual charity event Pavarotti and Friends. The song was also performed live as a five-piece in 2007/8 on their return concert tour, Return of the Spice Girls, and also a 4 piece again at their Stadium tour earlier this summer, with Geri taking over Victoria's lines.

For me it's their best single ever and my all time favorite song! It's a beautiful song and clearly a huge fan favourite. Viva Forever haters just have a shit taste in music as this rate has proven x

Thanks from myself & Jay to all of you who rated & commented!



I'm so so happy! This is my favorite song! wub.gif
It's the song I would like at my funeral (don't hate me please! tongue.gif )
I love its sweet melancholy...love the ROTSG tour's performance in particular…

Posted by: Mr.X 20th December 2019, 11:25 PM

Who could ever hate Viva Forever wub.gif

Posted by: JaneJ 21st December 2019, 08:01 PM

Of course it's Viva Forever. banana.gif Goodbye and SYBT deserved better though.

Posted by: Spiceboy 21st December 2019, 08:19 PM

Such a worthy winner bloody love that song, my favourite of all time!

Posted by: sammy01 21st December 2019, 09:55 PM

NBTSA at number 4, Mel C stans need to be banned. Viva Forever the rightful winner.

Posted by: Spiceboy 21st December 2019, 10:01 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 21 2019, 09:55 PM) *
NBTSA at number 4, Mel C stans need to be banned. Viva Forever the rightful winner.


Let's not pretend you're not the most deluded stan out there rolleyes.gif unsure.gif

Posted by: sammy01 21st December 2019, 10:17 PM

The success of NBTSA is the reason it is so high, if we are honest it isn't even Mel C's 4th best song, let alone from the whole Spice Discography.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 21st December 2019, 10:32 PM

It's my second favourite Melanie C song! There's a strong reason why it was a success in the first place. The love and popularity for it came before the chart position and sales! The success just confirmed the mood the public had for that song at the time. I think it's held up well in 20 years.

Posted by: JosephCarey 21st December 2019, 10:36 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 21 2019, 10:17 PM) *
The success of NBTSA is the reason it is so high, if we are honest it isn't even Mel C's 4th best song, let alone from the whole Spice Discography.


Posted by: sammy01 21st December 2019, 10:37 PM

It had success as it was released in 2000, mel c could release it now and it wouldnt chart.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 21st December 2019, 10:51 PM

A highly moot point tongue.gif

Melanie released two songs in advance of that which 'only' went to #4, so clearly there was something in particular about NBTSA which connected at the time, and still does now!

Posted by: sammy01 21st December 2019, 11:20 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 21 2019, 10:51 PM) *
A highly moot point tongue.gif

Melanie released two songs in advance of that which 'only' went to #4, so clearly there was something in particular about NBTSA which connected at the time, and still does now!


Yes a feature. Mel C's 2 biggest hits are features, her biggest song of the 2010s is a feature and her last 2 singles to chart are features.

Over rated Spice certainly needed help to get her over rated tag.

Posted by: Spiceboy 21st December 2019, 11:38 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 21 2019, 10:37 PM) *
It had success as it was released in 2000, mel c could release it now and it wouldnt chart.



Neither would Maybe... rolleyes.gif Totally irrelevant to the discussion.

No be quiet Sammy you're only embarrassing yourself.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd December 2019, 12:01 AM

I don't see what relevance featured artists has really, a hit is a hit / a well-liked song is a well-liked song, regardless of who is contributing vocally.

Besides, When You're Gone is the only song you're mentioning where Melanie was the featured artist. She was lead artist on Never Be the Same Again, while she was a joint credit on Loving You. Both Matt Cardle & Melanie C had experienced flop singles in advance of that 'lightning in a bottle' moment that neither artist has managed to replicate since... so I wouldn't attribute the success of that song any more to Matt than to Melanie tbqh.

When it comes to Never Be the Same Again, I don't think there's any evidence at all to support it only being a hit to the extent it was because of Lisa Lopes' involvement. She hadn't had a huge solo career in her own right, and quite frankly in terms of the UK Melanie C was a far bigger name!

Posted by: sammy01 22nd December 2019, 10:57 AM

I said what I said.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd December 2019, 12:01 PM

And what you said is wrong x

Posted by: ChristMaz! 22nd December 2019, 12:06 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 22 2019, 01:01 PM) *
And what you said is wrong x

Preach angel.gif

Posted by: sammy01 22nd December 2019, 12:18 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 22 2019, 12:01 PM) *
And what you said is wrong x


Actually it was completely factual. Her 2 biggest hits are features, her biggest hit this decade is a feature and her last 2 charting singles are features.

These. Are. Facts.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd December 2019, 12:27 PM

“Are features” implies Melanie C is merely the featured artist, which is wrong. On all but one song you’re referring to, she’s either the lead or joint lead artist. She hasn’t had “a feature” hit since 1998.

Her biggest hits worldwide: I Turn to You and First Day of My Life... both are solo.

Posted by: Mr.X 22nd December 2019, 01:18 PM

Ladies, lets chill on this. This has now moved from personal opinions/taste around the songs, to factual inacuracies and diminshing of MC's solo career.

Mel C's biggest single is with Brian Adams, then I Turn To You. Her last two hits were as a featured artist with Matt Cardle and as a solo artist with First Day of My Life. She is as relevant as a solo pop star as a featured one.

I do think though that her chances of solo success seem to be improving. She has a great new PR company which has seen her giving out extensive interviews around the release of High Hells, and included a large profile feature in the Guardian which vouched for her upcoming solo music being her best yet. I think her previous management quitting was probably the best thing to happen to Mel C as a solo artist, she has been artistically stale for a while, and seems to have re-gained some energy around her career and artistic vision since then!

Let's move on from slagging the C or pretending some of her singles weren't absolutely massive please. She is still - and probably always be - the most successful solo Spice Girl and the one who never relented on her solo career (even if we can point to a lot of, erm, artistic flaws in it).

Also, sammy, just because we love Emma the most - and we do - doesnt mean we should be tearing down Mel C or her legacy babes.

Posted by: sammy01 22nd December 2019, 03:17 PM

I only do it to troll the Mel C fans, I love flop C as much as the next 90s homo.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd December 2019, 04:21 PM

QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 22 2019, 01:18 PM) *
Mel C's biggest single is with Brian Adams, then I Turn To You.

When You're Gone is her biggest seller in the UK, but worldwide peaks and certifications tell a different story when it comes to overall success.

Peaks and certifications:

Never Be the Same Again
01, 01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 03, 03, 03, 03, 04, 04, 05, 06, 08, 09, 09, 16, 27
10 certifications: Platinum (Australia, New Zealand, Sweden) | Gold (Austria, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, UK) | Silver (France)

I Turn to You
01, 01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 02, 02, 03, 04, 06, 08, 11, 11, 15, 26, 37
7 certifications: Platinum (Australia, Sweden) | Gold (Austria, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, UK)

First Day of My Life
01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 09, 14, 18, 25, 32, 53, 65, 94
2 certifications: Platinum (Germany) | Gold (Switzerland)

When You're Gone
03, 03, 04, 06, 06, 07, 08, 11, 11, 12, 14, 14, 15, 16, 20, 29, 32, 37
3 certifications: Platinum (Australia, UK) | Gold (Norway)


[^ I'm not including Scottish chart (which is a subsidiary to the UK chart), Europe chart or radio charts]

So Never Be the Same Again was her biggest success. I Turn to You second, but this is also the only single of hers that had a modicum of success in the US (Dance Club Songs). I'd make a case for First Day of My Life having more impact *at the time* in Europe than When You're Gone.


QUOTE(Mr.X @ Dec 22 2019, 01:18 PM) *
Her last two hits were as a featured artist with Matt Cardle and as a solo artist with First Day of My Life. She is as relevant as a solo pop star as a featured one.

Loving You wasn't a feature, it's a joint credit! "Matt Cardle & Melanie C".

Both artists were 'flopping' prior to that single release. Matt's 5 singles prior to Loving You charted at: #185, #84, #175, not top 200, not top 200. Since Loving You he has released 7 singles, and only one charted, at #171.

I feel like there's an implication that Loving You was only a hit because Melanie C bagged herself 'a feature' on a Matt Cardle single, when the truth is... is that single being a hit was something of a fluke for both artists. So let's give Melanie her dues for Loving You's success, she was a joint lead and it was as much a hit for her as it was for Matt.

Posted by: Spiceboy 22nd December 2019, 05:49 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 22 2019, 04:21 PM) *
When You're Gone is her biggest seller in the UK, but worldwide peaks and certifications tell a different story when it comes to overall success.

Peaks and certifications:

Never Be the Same Again
01, 01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 03, 03, 03, 03, 04, 04, 05, 06, 08, 09, 09, 16, 27
10 certifications: Platinum (Australia, New Zealand, Sweden) | Gold (Austria, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, UK) | Silver (France)

I Turn to You
01, 01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 02, 02, 03, 04, 06, 08, 11, 11, 15, 26, 37
7 certifications: Platinum (Australia, Sweden) | Gold (Austria, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, UK)

First Day of My Life
01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 09, 14, 18, 25, 32, 53, 65, 94
2 certifications: Platinum (Germany) | Gold (Switzerland)

When You're Gone
03, 03, 04, 06, 06, 07, 08, 11, 11, 12, 14, 14, 15, 16, 20, 29, 32, 37
3 certifications: Platinum (Australia, UK) | Gold (Norway)


[^ I'm not including Scottish chart (which is a subsidiary to the UK chart), Europe chart or radio charts]

So Never Be the Same Again was her biggest success. I Turn to You second, but this is also the only single of hers that had a modicum of success in the US (Dance Club Songs). I'd make a case for First Day of My Life having more impact *at the time* in Europe than When You're Gone.
Loving You wasn't a feature, it's a joint credit! "Matt Cardle & Melanie C".

Both artists were 'flopping' prior to that single release. Matt's 5 singles prior to Loving You charted at: #185, #84, #175, not top 200, not top 200. Since Loving You he has released 7 singles, and only one charted, at #171.

I feel like there's an implication that Loving You was only a hit because Melanie C bagged herself 'a feature' on a Matt Cardle single, when the truth is... is that single being a hit was something of a fluke for both artists. So let's give Melanie her dues for Loving You's success, she was a joint lead and it was as much a hit for her as it was for Matt.


As always, the voice of reason wub.gif

Posted by: sammy01 22nd December 2019, 06:19 PM

When you're gone is massive in the UK though, it is like 400k ahead of NBTSA in sales isn't it, which is ahead of ITTY.


Posted by: Slade 22nd December 2019, 06:21 PM

'Viva Forever' is the perfect winner wub.gif thanks mods for all your hard work!

Posted by: Spiceboy 22nd December 2019, 06:42 PM

QUOTE(sammy01 @ Dec 22 2019, 06:19 PM) *
When you're gone is massive in the UK though, it is like 400k ahead of NBTSA in sales isn't it, which is ahead of ITTY.


What has that got to do with Jay’s post?

Posted by: Mr.X 22nd December 2019, 06:52 PM

QUOTE(Jay ☆ @ Dec 22 2019, 04:21 PM) *
When You're Gone is her biggest seller in the UK, but worldwide peaks and certifications tell a different story when it comes to overall success.

Peaks and certifications:

Never Be the Same Again
01, 01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 03, 03, 03, 03, 04, 04, 05, 06, 08, 09, 09, 16, 27
10 certifications: Platinum (Australia, New Zealand, Sweden) | Gold (Austria, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, UK) | Silver (France)

I Turn to You
01, 01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 02, 02, 03, 04, 06, 08, 11, 11, 15, 26, 37
7 certifications: Platinum (Australia, Sweden) | Gold (Austria, Belgium, Germany, Netherlands, UK)

First Day of My Life
01, 01, 01, 01, 02, 09, 14, 18, 25, 32, 53, 65, 94
2 certifications: Platinum (Germany) | Gold (Switzerland)

When You're Gone
03, 03, 04, 06, 06, 07, 08, 11, 11, 12, 14, 14, 15, 16, 20, 29, 32, 37
3 certifications: Platinum (Australia, UK) | Gold (Norway)


[^ I'm not including Scottish chart (which is a subsidiary to the UK chart), Europe chart or radio charts]

So Never Be the Same Again was her biggest success. I Turn to You second, but this is also the only single of hers that had a modicum of success in the US (Dance Club Songs). I'd make a case for First Day of My Life having more impact *at the time* in Europe than When You're Gone.
Loving You wasn't a feature, it's a joint credit! "Matt Cardle & Melanie C".

Both artists were 'flopping' prior to that single release. Matt's 5 singles prior to Loving You charted at: #185, #84, #175, not top 200, not top 200. Since Loving You he has released 7 singles, and only one charted, at #171.

I feel like there's an implication that Loving You was only a hit because Melanie C bagged herself 'a feature' on a Matt Cardle single, when the truth is... is that single being a hit was something of a fluke for both artists. So let's give Melanie her dues for Loving You's success, she was a joint lead and it was as much a hit for her as it was for Matt.



Thanks for further context, and I get what you are trying to get at with NBTSA and LY - BUT I would say that When You're Gone is indeed the bigger hit as it made such a massive impact back in 1998 and continues to this day to get good sales and radio play across Europe. Everytime I am working around Europe, it still plays on the radio. And yeah t did sell massively in the UK...

Not diminishing her other successes of course, but just think that WYG is on anotehr level. Of course, at the time both Mel and Brian were massive so that helped.

Posted by: sammy01 22nd December 2019, 08:04 PM

QUOTE(Spiceboy @ Dec 22 2019, 06:42 PM) *
What has that got to do with Jay’s post?


That nothing anywhere will match the UK success of When you're gone for Mel.

Posted by: Jay ☆ 22nd December 2019, 09:26 PM

QUOTE(Slade @ Dec 22 2019, 06:21 PM) *
'Viva Forever' is the perfect winner wub.gif thanks mods for all your hard work!

Thanks Jade wub.gif! Glad your favourite won!

Posted by: December Dong 22nd December 2019, 09:34 PM

Hope VB's NSAIGirl comes top 10!!

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