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  Apr 27 2020, 02:08 PM
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Dannii’s ‘Girl’ era is her Impossible Princess moment for me - underrated but such a good album.
3 singles were released from the album including Dannii’s biggest selling single ‘All I Wanna Do’ which was followed by ‘Everything I Wanted’ which many fans seem to think was the wrong choice before the 3rd and final single ‘Dirememberance’. What would you have done differently for this era? What should have been released as singles? Even though it wasn’t part of the original album it appeared on the reissued expanded edition and was a minor hit in Australia but I absolutely love ‘Coconut’  I always wonder how this would have worked as a single in the UK.All I Wanna Do UK Chart Run: 4-6-13-19-29-36-45-66. Everything I Wanted UK Chart Run: 15-25-32-50...83. Disrememberance: UK Chart Run: 21-41-68...96. |
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Apr 27 2020, 02:17 PM
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BuzzJack Idol
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Everything I wanted was a bad choice to follow all I wanna do. I cant remember but did dannii do much promo on the week the album was released?
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Apr 27 2020, 02:57 PM
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Coconut was such a bizarre release - it was included as a hidden track and for some reason they thought it would work well as a single in Australia?
Though I believe it was mainly released to promote The Singles Collection in Australia. There was several remixes done of Heaven Can Wait, so I believe it was in contention to be a single at one point. I also believe Bananarama recorded another version with the same backing track as Heaven Can Wait. |
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Apr 27 2020, 04:24 PM
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Great topic
After All I Wanna Do I would have released So In Love With Yourself as the second single. This track is instant whereas the problem with EIW is that it’s a grower and the chorus is not the highlight of the track. Someone New that didn’t even make the album could have been a single too. All I Wanna Do So In Love With Yourself Dis remembrance Someone New / Am I Dreaming Moving Up is catchy as hell and although not the best song may have done well. Coconut is completely bonkers this could have worked as a double a side maybe. Heaven Can Wait has remixes so this must of been in the running, I would have preferred this over EIW. EIW does have a great video tho!! |
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Apr 27 2020, 04:39 PM
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Coconut is the type of song that would be very suitable for a double a release single.
Not strong enough on its own merits but would have appeal with a stronger more radio friendly song. |
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Apr 27 2020, 04:54 PM
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I was always buying Dannii's music, but when "All I Wanna Do" came out she kind of lost me. Looking back I love this album, but at that time I was into that wild female stuff like Alanis Morissette, Garbage, Fiona Apple, so I didn't care about Dannii anymore. I bought the album a few years later on sale and was surprised how good it is.
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Apr 27 2020, 05:18 PM
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BuzzJack Idol
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I didnt like Dannii at that time either and got into Girl years later, im still not a huge fan of All i wanna do, i would prefer who do you love now or i begin to wonder as her biggest selling single. Girl is one of those albums if released by someone else at the time could have been a big seller.
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Apr 27 2020, 06:37 PM
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Agree with some of the comments so far.
I would have started of course with ‘All I Wanna Do’ in June rather than the August release it got then followed up with a August release of ‘So In Love With Yourself’ then released ‘Disrememberance’ in October followed quickly by the album so that people had a chance to rediscover Dannii via the singles rather than having the album pushed on them as soon as AIWD became a hit which is what originally happened. I then would have finished the campaign with ‘Am I Dreaming’ or ‘Heaven Can Wait’ backed up with the iconic but bonkers ‘Coconut’ which could have actually worked with a wacky video and club mixes. ‘Girl’ will forever be the era that could have offered Dannii so much more - let’s not go there on ‘Get Into You’ as that album is beyond saving 
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Apr 27 2020, 06:58 PM
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BuzzJack Idol
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Get into you was a disaster is everyway possible. Disrememberance should have been a big hit but even myself who loves the song now didnt take any notice of it when released and I dont really know why, I can only assume it wasnt played on the radio stations I was listening to or music shows I was watching as I know had I really known the song properly back then I would have liked it. I think this was a big problem dannii had, her music just wasn't getting out to the right people, and people dudnt just know much about her music. I wonder what really helped all i wanna do take off as it's not her strongest single but done really well for her.
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Apr 27 2020, 07:07 PM
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Promotion from Dannii doesn't hugely spring to mind.
Dannii never had huge promotional activities to really engage and attract sales to her albums. Girl was commercial and should have reached audiences of pop music but there was a complete disconnect with it and the music buying public. This post has been edited by pippa: Apr 27 2020, 07:10 PM |
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Apr 27 2020, 07:58 PM
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BuzzJack Idol
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A boxet type of release might help Girl, release a boxset with Neon Nights could get a some sales, its worked for others.
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Apr 27 2020, 07:59 PM
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I don't mind Get Into You actually, though I think it suffers what happens whenever non-Americans try to go with an American R&B sound - they end up with the scraps rather than the big hits, mostly because producers end up wanting to sell those to people who can actually get promoted on US radio.
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Apr 27 2020, 08:17 PM
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Get into you shows that Dannii really didnt know her sound or what market she was after. Even reading the threads here the fans of dannii really like her pop/dance sound the most and thats where most of her success was. I think if Dannii knew her own sound years ago things might have been somewhat different. Dannii pairing with Riva was a great move and i think she needed more of these type of features after Neon nights to keep her profile up and her name in the charts on songs that people knew of.
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Apr 27 2020, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(tommie @ Apr 27 2020, 08:59 PM)  I don't mind Get Into You actually, though I think it suffers what happens whenever non-Americans try to go with an American R&B sound - they end up with the scraps rather than the big hits, mostly because producers end up wanting to sell those to people who can actually get promoted on US radio. I don’t hate it but it was a disaster - bubble gum pop such as ‘This Is It’ mixed with ‘Get Into You’ didn’t really work, it feels like listening to the album they changed their mind 10 times through recording it what sound they wanted to go for. |
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Apr 27 2020, 09:37 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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QUOTE(___∆___ @ Apr 27 2020, 09:24 PM) I don’t hate it but it was a disaster - bubble gum pop such as ‘This Is It’ mixed with ‘Get Into You’ didn’t really work, it feels like listening to the album they changed their mind 10 times through recording it what sound they wanted to go for. Oh, you can definitively tell that This Is It and This Is The Way were recorded once Show You The Way To Go and Love's On Every Corner bombed. It's clear that the album was originally going to go down a more adult R&B tone, but once that flopped they clearly pulled out This Is It since they at least had success with having her do a cover of Baby Love and Jump to the Beat from Love & Kisses. Get Into You sort of reminds me of how Janet would throw a "rockier" track on her albums, so it didn't stick out too much for me among the R&B-ish tracks. |
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Apr 27 2020, 09:43 PM
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This Is It performed strongly for Dannii in a very misguided era.
However it showed an area Dannii could succeed, but, with little directional focus they didn't capitalize on what was popular. |
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Apr 27 2020, 10:58 PM
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BuzzJack Idol
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This Is It was the first Dannii song i really liked and also the first single i bought from her and then didnt buy anything again until who do you love now.
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Apr 28 2020, 08:46 AM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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We should have a deprecate thread for GIY. Lol
This era completely passed me by as a youngster . I didn’t hear any of the releases at the time apart from TII I purchased the album years later . It has a few nice tracks but it’s her worst album for me. I Dream is nice !! |
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Apr 28 2020, 02:37 PM
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BuzzJack Legend
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I did attempt visiting Get Into You but the sound had no appeal so I moved quickly on from it.
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Apr 28 2020, 06:13 PM
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BuzzJack Platinum Member
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Girl came out at a time when Dannii was ironically more popular than Kylie in terms of chart success. All I wanna do was a great first single. I think the other two singles were also perfect follow ups. The only thing I would have changed is releasing a 4th single to help the album.
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