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  Dec 2 2023, 10:26 AM
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This is the official streaming services thread, the go-to topic for the discussion of playlists and charts from services such as Spotify, Apple & Amazon!
FAQs What is streaming? What are the chart rules regarding streaming? For streaming and chart rules related FAQs read this thread. How many streams equals one download sale? 100 plays if you are on Spotify Premium, or 600 if you are using the ad-supported free tier. However you cannot simply play a song that many times in one day to give it one sale, you are limited to 10 plays per day in terms of what counts to the chart. The number changes to 200 or 1200 plays when a song moves to ACR. For more information on the rules of ACR see this thread. How much does streaming contribute to the chart? Streaming contributes over 90% to the singles chart as a whole. Spotify counts for at least half of this, with Apple Music and Amazon also big contributors. YouTube is also big however most of YouTube's streams are at the free tier so won't count for as much. Why is my fave not doing well? Is it being promoted on a major curated playlist, and/or going viral on TikTok? If it isn't, it's unlikely to really take off! Hot Hits UK is the biggest of these playlists on Spotify from a UK standpoint. The playlist usually updates itself to include breaking hits once or twice a week, though there is no guarantee that your fave will get a place on the playlist. Also, the UK Top 50 is a largely followed playlist and that songs often experience a 'top 50 effect', when they enter the top 50 and get the additional exposure of being on the playlist. Often sales hits don't cross over to being streaming hits, this is usually the case for songs with an older target audience, reality or campaign songs. Also keep in mind that it often takes longer for a song to take off on Spotify than it would on iTunes. My fave didn't debut high and is falling already, does this mean they're flopping? Not necessarily. Most songs debut relatively low as they aren't instantly well-known, and experience a sharp decline on Day 2 as they no longer have the promoted 'New Music Friday' effect. A lot of songs manage to recover through gaining popularity and additions to playlists. Exceptions to the rule of course come from massively hyped releases, such as the recent album impacts from Drake and Taylor Swift. Spotify How do I see today's Spotify chart? To see the daily top 50 update on desktop, log in to Spotify, click 'Browse', then click 'Charts', then click 'United Kingdom Top 50', or click the link below. For the full top 200, use the link below to go to Spotify's website. You can also use the Kworb website which displays the data in an easier to read format and also contains additional information, however this is often out of date. Spotify App [top 50] Spotify Website [top 200] Kworb [top 200 and extra data] What are the most influential Spotify playlists? Links to Spotify's top playlists are as below. How often does the Spotify chart update? It should update once every day, usually in the early afternoon - although on occasion there will be a delay. What do the numbers mean? The streaming figures cited in the daily chart are the number of streams each song received the previous day. Unlike the iTunes chart, Spotify is not a rolling chart so the numbers will only change once per day. Apple Music How do I see today's Apple Music chart? You can use the link below to view the Apple Music top 100 through Kworb. If you have Apple Music, you can also view the top 200 by going to the Charts section and clicking on See All in the Top Songs section. Kworb [top 100] What are the most influential Apple Music playlists? Links to Apple Music's top playlists are as below. How often does the Apple Music chart update? It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify. Amazon How do I see today's Amazon Music chart? You can use the link below to view the Amazon Music chart. Amazon Music How often does the Amazon Music chart update? It like iTunes updates on a regular basis a number of times a day. No streaming figures are provided however, unlike Spotify. [FAQs written by Dan] Spotify/streaming discussion thread archive 2023: Jan • Feb • Mar • Apr • May • Jun • Jul • Aug • Sep • Oct • Nov 2022: Jan • Feb • Mar • Apr • May • Jun • Jul • Aug • Sep • Oct • Nov • Dec 2021: Jan • Feb • Mar • Apr • May • Jun • Jul • Aug • Sep • Oct • Nov • Dec 2020: Jan • Feb • Mar • Apr • May • Jun • Jul • Aug • Sep • Oct • Nov • Dec 2019: Jan • Feb • Mar • Apr • May • Jun • Jul • Aug • Sep • Oct • Nov • Dec 2018: Jan-Mar • Mar-May • May-Jun • Jun-Sep • Sep-Oct • Nov • Dec 2017: Jan • Feb • Mar • Apr • May • Jun • Jul • Aug • Sep • Oct-Dec 2016: Jan-Jun • Jun-Oct • Oct-Dec 2015: Jan-Oct • Oct-Dec 2014: Jun-Dec |
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Dec 2 2023, 10:27 AM
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Pineapple 🍍
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Spotify Christmas songs
Top 10 1 Wham last Christmas 1,003,634 2 Mariah Carey all I want for Christmas is you 966,724 3 Brenda Lee rocking round Christmas tree 859,282 4 The Pogues Kirsty, maccoll fairytale New York 694,571 5 Michael Bublé, it’s beginning to look like Christmas 661,290 5 Bobby Helms, jingle bell, rock 649,188 7 Ariana Grande Santa tell me 612,401 9 Andy Williams is the most wonderful time of the year 515,989 10 Kelly Clarkson underneath the tree 503,535 Top 20 to 11 11 Shakin Steven, Merry Christmas, everyone 486,744 12 Dean martin let it snow let it snow let it snow 13 Band aid 84 do they know it’s Christmas 14 Michael Bublé, Holly Jolly Christmas 16 John Lennon, happy Xmas 17 Chris rea driving home for Christmas 18 The Ronettes sleigh Ride 19 Sia snowman 20Paul McCartney wonderful Christmastime Top 30 to 21 21 Justin Bieber mistletoe 22 José Feliciano Feliz Navidad 23 Elton John, Step Into Christmas 25 Wizard, I wish it could be Christmas every day 30 Ed Sheeran Elton John merry Christmas Top 40 to 31 31 Slade merry Xmas everybody 32 Darlene love Christmas (baby please come home) 34 Leona Lewis one more sleep 35 Frank Sinatra let it snow 36 Nat King Cole the Christmas song Merry Christmas to you 39 Jackson 5, Santa Claus is coming to town 40 Kelly, Clarkson Ariana Grande, Santa, can you hear me Top 50 to 41 42 Coldplay Christmas lights 46 laufey winter Wonderland Spotify, single 47 burl Ives a Holly Jolly Christmas 50 Bing Crosby white Christmas Top 60 to 51 55 Chuck Berry run Rudolph run 58 Perry como it’s beginning to look like Christmas 59 jona lewie stop the cavalry Top 200 to 61 61 Brett Eldridge Meghan Trainor baby, it’s cold outside 66 Britney Spears, my only wish this year 67 Elvis Presley blue Christmas 69 pretenders 2000 miles 74 Mariah Carey Christmas baby please come home 76 sia Santa is coming for us 77 mud lonely this Christmas 85 eagles, please come home for Christmas 88 Taylor Swift Christmas tree farm 89 the Beach Boys Little Saint Nick 90 Kylie Minogue Santa baby 92 Bruce Springsteen, Santa Claus is coming to town 93 Frank Sinatra, jingle bells 94 stevie wonder what Christmas mean to me 95 queen thank god it’s Christmas 96 Michael Bublé, Santa Claus is coming to town 98 Donny Hathaway this Christmas 100 Sam smith have yourself a merry little Christmas 126 Nat king Cole deck the halls 127 idina menzel Michael buble baby it’s cold outside 130 gwen stefani Blake Shelton you make it feel like Christmas 142 jonas brothers like its Christmas 145 dean martin Rudolph, the red nose reindeer 156 east 17 stay another day 158 Elvis Presley here comes Santa Claus (right down Santa Claus Lane) 170 Cliff Richard, mistletoe and wine 174 Michael Buble the puppini sisters jingle bells 180 Jackson 5 I saw mummy, kissing Santa Claus 182 Frank Sinatra have yourself a merry little Christmas 194 Ava, Max Christmas without you 200 Ariana Grande last Christmas No it yet Boney m mary boy child /oh my lord This post has been edited by Stitch: Dec 2 2023, 10:27 AM |
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Dec 2 2023, 10:39 AM
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BuzzJack Enthusiast
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One million!
Could go OCC #1 this week then? Think we can safely rule Jack Harlow out of Christmas #1 |
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Dec 2 2023, 10:55 AM
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Lovin on Me did -62k on Thursday compared to previous week so it is not going increase its streams until Christmas is over I reckon.
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Dec 2 2023, 10:56 AM
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Pineapple 🍍
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Non Christmas song on Spotify
8 jack Harlow Lovin on me 542.291 15 Noah Kahn stick season 24 Tate McRae, greedy 26 casso , Raye d book Europe prada 28 Taylor Swift, you’re losing me 48 Olivia Rodrigo, can’t catch me now 49 dua lipa Houdini 53 Beyoncé, my house 87 Tate McRae exes 164 d block Europe, I need it now This post has been edited by Blitzen: Dec 2 2023, 10:57 AM |
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Dec 2 2023, 11:00 AM
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Always amazes me how top heavy the distribution of Christmas songs throughout the top 200 is:
18 in 1-20 12 in 21-40 7 in 41-60 7 in 61-80 11 in 80-100 0 in 101-120 3 in 121-140 4 in 141-160 3 in 161-180 3 in 181-200 It's as if you get to a certain point and there aren't any Christmas songs left - that point being the end of Spotify's main playlists of course. Mr Brightside out of the top 50 after 340 days in a row. |
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Dec 2 2023, 11:08 AM
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BuzzJack Enthusiast
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Is 340 consecutive top 50 days a record?
Only songs that I think could maybe have beaten it are Shape of You or Blinding Lights? |
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Dec 2 2023, 11:11 AM
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Apple Music Christmas songs update
Top 10 1 The Pogues Kirsty, maccoll fairytale New York 2 And 52 Wham last Christmas 3 Shakin Steven, Merry Christmas, everyone 4 and 51 Mariah Carey all I want for Christmas is you 6 Kelly Clarkson underneath the tree 7 Elton John, Step Into Christmas 8 Leona Lewis one more sleep 9 do they know it’s Christmas 10 Michael Bublé, it’s beginning to look like Christmas Top 20 to 11 12 Andy Williams is the most wonderful time of the year 13 Wizard, I wish it could be Christmas every day 14 Ariana Grande Santa tell me 15 Slade merry Xmas everybody 16 Chris rea driving home for Christmas 19 Ed Sheeran Elton John merry Christmas Top 30 to 21 21 Paul McCartney wonderful Christmastime 22 Dean martin let it snow let it snow let it snow 23 Bobby Helms, jingle bell, rock 24 The Ronettes sleigh Ride 25 José Feliciano Feliz Navidad 28 Justin Bieber mistletoe 30 and 137 Brenda Lee rocking round Christmas tree Top 40 to 31 33 jona lewie stop the cavalry 34 Michael Bublé Holly, Jolly Christmas 37 John Lennon, happy Xmas 38 Perry Como, it’s beginning to look like Christmas 39 Sia snowman Top 50 to 41 44 Darlene love Christmas (baby please come home 47 Frank Sinatra let it snow 49 Lily Allen somewhere only we know 50 East 17 stay another day Top 60 to 51 53 Jackson 5, Santa Claus is coming to town Top 200 to 61 62 Britney Spears, my only wish this year 63 Bruce Springsteen, Santa Claus is coming to town 64 eartha kitt Santa baby 65 pretenders, 2000 miles 68 Mariah Carey Christmas baby please come home 70 Bing Crosby, Winter Wonderland 71 mud lonely this Christmas 82 And 124 boney m Mary’s boy child/oh my lord 90 Stevie Wonder well Christmas means to me 92 the waitresses Christmas wrapping 94 darlene love all alone on Christmas 96 the Beach Boys little Saint Nick 97 Johnny Mathis when a child is born 106 Johnny Mathis when a child is born) 100 Michael buble let it snow 106 chuck berry run, Rudolph run 107 nat King Cole the Christmas song 110 Alexander Burke hallelujah 115 Coldplay Christmas lights 117 John Williams Carol of the bells 127 Kylie Minogue Santa baby 129 Michael Bublé have yourself a merry little Christmas 132 Chris de Burgh a spaceman came travelling 136 the darkness Christmas time (don’t let the bell end) 141 Kelly Clarkson Ariana Grande Santa can’t you hear me 164 Michael Bublé Christmas baby please come home 175 Daryl hall & john Oates jingle Bell Rock 178 Michael Bublé, Santa Claus is coming to town 181 Cliff Richard, mistletoe and wine 183 Ella Henderson , stay another day 184 Michael Bublé white Christmas 194 the rosettes Frosty the Snowman, 196 gene aurty here comes Santa Claus 198 Ariana Grande last Christmas |
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Dec 2 2023, 11:11 AM
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Discoverer of Artemas
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QUOTE(Maestro @ Dec 2 2023, 11:08 AM)  Is 340 consecutive top 50 days a record? Only songs that I think could maybe have beaten it are Shape of You or Blinding Lights? No, 'Dance Monkey' managed more than a year This post has been edited by jimwatts: Dec 2 2023, 11:12 AM |
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Dec 2 2023, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(jimwatts @ Dec 2 2023, 07:00 PM) Always amazes me how top heavy the distribution of Christmas songs throughout the top 200 is: 18 in 1-20 12 in 21-40 7 in 41-60 7 in 61-80 11 in 80-100 0 in 101-120 3 in 121-140 4 in 141-160 3 in 161-180 3 in 181-200 It's as if you get to a certain point and there aren't any Christmas songs left - that point being the end of Spotify's main playlists of course. It's kind of a mathematical thing. The lower down the chart you go, the smaller the gaps are between positions. So it's less likely that any particular Christmas song is going to land in-between two lower songs. The same thing happens on the iTunes chart when someone passes away. |
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Dec 2 2023, 11:51 AM
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 I'll just stick around and do some more damage
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The Pogues are still the 4th highest Xmas song on Spotify, up to #4 overall with 695k (over 150k behind Brenda still but glad they have held their position for now, I imagine they'll fall down the pack a bit again by this time next week).
Not sure if any other Christmas songs have hit new peaks today but 'Santa, Can't You Hear Me' is at #40 which is the first time it's ever made the top 40! Still eligible to get an automatic SCR reset so could get a new overall peak again this year (assuming it doesn't miss having a 25% increase detected by the OCC of course...) We do have 2 actual new entries on Spotify today aside from the expected massive 1st December Christmas surge - Beyoncé at #53 and the latest D-Block Europe release no one asked for at #164. Wham! only did 631k on 1st December last year so a more than 50% improvement on that this year...! (edit: sorry didn't see there was a new makeshift thread for December, feel free to move this post x) |
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Dec 2 2023, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(steve201 @ Dec 2 2023, 12:23 AM) It sounds like she made it on drugs! QUOTE(Bjork @ Dec 2 2023, 07:58 AM) on Apple: 95 NEW Beyoncé - MY HOUSE lol MY HOUSE on drugs. 
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Dec 2 2023, 04:14 PM
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Imagine not liking a song so you say they must be on drugs to have made it lmao.
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Dec 2 2023, 05:00 PM
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I'll just stick around and do some more damage
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It's not like making a song while on drugs is even necessarily a bad thing. The entire genre of psychedelic rock says hello.
Must say I am quite excited to hear this Beyoncé song now x |
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Dec 2 2023, 05:16 PM
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Your losing me holding at 26 pull through and sneak a week top 40 taylor
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Dec 2 2023, 09:25 PM
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I’ve seen a lot worse on this forum I have to say
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Dec 2 2023, 10:06 PM
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Apple Music Christmas update
Top 10 1 The Pogues Kirsty, maccoll fairytale New York 2 Shakin Steven, Merry Christmas, everyone 3 And 43 and 157 Wham last Christmas 4 and 40 Mariah Carey all I want for Christmas is you 5 Kelly Clarkson underneath the tree 6 Elton John, Step Into Christmas 7 Leona Lewis one more sleep 8 band aid do they know it’s Christmas 9 Michael Bublé, it’s beginning to look like Christmas Top 20 to 11 11 Andy Williams is the most wonderful time of the year 12 Wizard, I wish it could be Christmas every day 13 Ariana Grande Santa tell me 14 Slade merry Xmas everybody 15 Chris rea driving home for Christmas 16 Paul McCartney wonderful Christmastime 17 Ed Sheeran Elton John merry Christmas 18 Dean martin let it snow let it snow let it snow 19 Bobby Helms, jingle bell, rock Top 30 to 21 21 The Ronettes sleigh Ride 22 José Feliciano Feliz Navidad 23 and 87 Brenda Lee rocking round Christmas tree 25 Justin Bieber mistletoe 26 Michael Bublé Holly, Jolly Christmas 27 John Lennon, happy Xmas 28 jona lewie stop the cavalry Top 40 to 31 31 Perry Como, it’s beginning to look like Christmas 32 Frank Sinatra let it snow 33 Sia snowman 34 Darlene love Christmas (baby please come home 35 Lily Allen somewhere only we know 36 East 17 stay another day 38 Jackson 5, Santa Claus is coming to town Top 50 to 41 46 Bruce Springsteen, Santa Claus is coming to town 48 eartha kitt Santa baby 50 Britney Spears, my only wish this year Top 60 to 51 51 pretenders, 2000 miles 52 Mariah Carey Christmas baby please come home 53 Bing Crosby, Winter Wonderland 56 mud lonely this Christmas 59 And 79 boney m Mary’s boy child/oh my lord Top 200 to 61 62 the waitresses Christmas wrapping 63 Stevie Wonder well Christmas means to me 67 the Beach Boys little Saint Nick 68 Michael buble let it snow 73 chuck berry run, Rudolph run 74 Johnny Mathis when a child is born 76 darlene love all alone on Christmas 78 John Williams Carol of the bells 81 Michael Bublé have yourself a merry little Christmas 82 Coldplay Christmas lights 83 nat King Cole the Christmas song 84 Alexander Burke hallelujah 89 Kylie Minogue Santa baby 90 Kelly Clarkson Ariana Grande Santa can’t you hear me 92 the darkness Christmas time (don’t let the bell end) 93 Daryl hall & john Oates jingle Bell Rock 96 Michael Bublé, Santa Claus is coming to town 97 Chris de Burgh a spaceman came travelling 101 Michael Bublé Christmas baby please come home 103 Céline Dion, happy Xmas 105 Michael Bublé white Christmas 107 the rosettes Frosty the Snowman, 110 gene aurty here comes Santa Claus 111 Elvis Presley blue Christmas 112 Ella Henderson , stay another day 115 Cliff Richard, mistletoe and wine 116 Donny haartaway this Christmas 119 Ariana Grande last Christmas 120 Michael, buble , jingle bells 123 Bing Crosby White Christmas 125 Emerson lake & palmer I believe in Father Christmas 128 burl Ives a Holly Jolly Christmas 135 Michael Bublé, all I want for Christmas is you 143 Destiny’s Child 8 days of Christmas 158 Gwen Stefani, you can make it feel like Christmas 159 Frankie goes to Hollywood power of love 160 Michael Bublé Santa baby 166 Coldplay Christmas lights infinity station session 169 Katy Perry cozy little Christmas 170 Jackson 5, Frosty the Snowman 176 Ingrid michaelson rocking around the Christmas 184 Andy Williams, happy holiday/the holiday season 185 Dean Martin, Rudolph, the rednosed reindeer 186 Frank Sinatra Santa Claus is coming town 192 The Vamps, jingle bell rock 198 the ronettes I saw mummy, kissing Santa Claus |
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Dec 2 2023, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(jimwatts @ Dec 2 2023, 11:11 AM) No, 'Dance Monkey' managed more than a year When will your faves? 
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Dec 2 2023, 10:17 PM
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I think I prefer 'My House' to Beyoncé's recent output.
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Dec 2 2023, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(JackTheeStallion @ Dec 2 2023, 04:14 PM) Imagine not liking a song so you say they must be on drugs to have made it lmao. Never change buzzjack. Tbf I didn’t say I didn’t like it just that it sounds quite leftfield 😅 |
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